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Things Fell Apart - new Jon Ronson podcast

Started by icehaven, November 11, 2021, 04:49:54 PM

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Noodle Lizard

Quote from: Pranet on November 13, 2021, 07:21:55 AM
He says it is on apple podcasts in the US and Canada.

I just checked and it is not.

Ferris


Ray Travez

I found episode 1 a bit boring. I have to own this- I just don't find the Christian right in America especially interesting. They're pathological and hypocritical, and basically mad in a way that seems highly distasteful. I watched the two Theroux docs about the Phelps guys, and again, they're crazy in a very unappealing way.

bgmnts

To he fair the Phelps family is probably on the far edge of extremity in terms of Christianity, and are weirdly single issue Christians. Which is a bit boring I suppose.

Pranet

Quote from: olliebean on November 13, 2021, 10:13:55 PM
Is there a link for it? Apple podcasts run on RSS feeds, but Apple obscures the feed link. There are sites that will take an Apple podcast link and give you the URL of the RSS feed.

The link he gave goes here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/things-fell-apart-by-jon-ronson/id1592984136?ign-itscg=30200&ign-itsct=bbc_podcasts

But I don't know if that is any use to anyone. It says "Requires subscription" and I don't know what that means. I haven't used itunes for podcasts for a while so I don't know if there is some new stuff involved.

Ferris

Quote from: Pranet on November 14, 2021, 04:06:20 PM
The link he gave goes here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/things-fell-apart-by-jon-ronson/id1592984136?ign-itscg=30200&ign-itsct=bbc_podcasts

But I don't know if that is any use to anyone. It says "Requires subscription" and I don't know what that means. I haven't used itunes for podcasts for a while so I don't know if there is some new stuff involved.

Yeah that just gives me the option to pay for bbc podcasts. It's a mystery, looks like I'll just wait.

mr. logic

Quote from: Noodle Lizard on November 13, 2021, 08:08:45 PM
Yeah, I remember thinking that as well. It was the perfect project for Ronson; he'd just done a book about public shaming followed by a podcast about the US porn industry, and then here's a real-life tragic story that combines the two! I understand why someone in that position would rush to it, but it's a bit grim and I'm not sure the podcast really "honoured her memory" as such. You can imagine him reading the news and jumping on the phone to his co-producer: "Lina! We can go back to America and start looking at poooooorn again! Something's happened!"

I do, generally, like Ronson though and have enjoyed pretty much everything he's put out. Some of it has aged poorly, but I reckon his heart's more or less in the right place.

Doesn't Lisa Ann make this point to him? I remember the interview being pretty tense, but can't reAlly recall the details.

Noodle Lizard

Quote from: mr. logic on November 14, 2021, 07:04:26 PM
Doesn't Lisa Ann make this point to him? I remember the interview being pretty tense, but can't reAlly recall the details.

Neither can I, I'm afraid. I only listened to it the once when it came out. But yeah, I do remember some people getting a bit testy with him (including August's husband, obviously).

greenman

Quote from: beanheadmcginty on November 13, 2021, 11:26:38 AM
Little chat between Jon and Ads Curts in the Guardian today:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/nov/12/jon-ronson-and-adam-curtis-on-the-culture-wars-how-has-this-happened-where-is-the-escape-hatch

Count me as another who thinks BBC Sounds needs to get cunted in the fuck.

Really the final point I think makes the most sense rather than the idea of "activist journalists".

An environment were the right and the centre manufacture conflict to minimalise the chance of genuinely progressive left wing voices being heard. The BBC might generally be centralist but its idea of compromise is to give a voice to extreme transphobia as more legitimate than say the idea allegations of antisemitism against Corbyns labour being dishonestly weaponised.

The hysteria around Trump he mentioned really I'd say most of it was actually defensive, a way for centralists to avoid having to face Clintons failure and resorting to conspiracy theory.


Pranet

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