Get ready for Christmas :-D
Started by Blue Jam, November 22, 2021, 02:55:35 PM
Quote from: Brian Freeze on November 25, 2021, 12:58:08 AMIts been that long since I decided I didn't want a smart meter I have forgotten my reasoning but it was sound at the time.I dont have to have one if I dont want one do I?
Quote from: MojoJojo on November 25, 2021, 10:06:57 AMIf your meter is bust and needs replacing I don't think they will replace it with a dumb one. The idea is that everyone ends up with one.
Quote from: Brian Freeze on November 25, 2021, 01:27:43 PMThat sounds likely. Oh well. How easy would it be to change suppliers in the future if EDF fit this smart meter here and now?
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on November 25, 2021, 12:45:00 PMThe big reservation is they can monitor and control supply and are built on massive contracts by the usual shoddy suppliers and come with all the usual perils iot kit (even if these are not, necessarily strictly iot) tend to have.
Quote from: MojoJojo on November 25, 2021, 02:04:40 PMI don't think they can control supply, although there is concern about that.
QuoteIf you have a 'smart meter'If you have a smart energy meter in your home, your supplier could potentially disconnect your supply remotely without needing to access to your meter. However, before they do this, they must have:contacted you to discuss options for repaying your debt, eg through a repayment planvisited your home to assess your personal situation and whether this would affect you being disconnected, eg if you're disabled or elderlyIf they don't do this and they try and disconnect you, make a complaint to your supplier.
Quote from: MojoJojo on November 25, 2021, 02:04:40 PMIt should be absolutely fine, it should be a SMETS2 standard one which can work with any utility company.
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on November 25, 2021, 02:20:08 PMAlso can't they be put into prepay mode? That would also suggest they do have the technical ability to interrupt supply.https://www.smartenergygb.org/smart-meter-benefits/benefits-for-prepay-customers/how-to-use-a-smart-meter-in-prepay-mode-to-save-money
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on November 25, 2021, 03:16:19 PMYeah my point is that it is possible and should be factored in when considering the security or lack-thereof devices.I'm quite sceptical of the 'use less energy' advantages pushed to consumers since nobody really wants you to buy less of their product, however if people are 'going green' I can see more frequent metering intervals being used to encourage load-following. This could look like discounts when there's spare capacity, but it could just as easily work like Uber's surge pricing (which may or may not hike the charges if it sees your phone battery is low).
Quote from: MojoJojo on November 26, 2021, 08:15:25 AMHow does hydrogen help? As far as I know, hydrogen needs electricity to produce, and that's far less efficient than heat pumps.Heat pumps do claim efficiencies of >400‰ (or rather an sCOP >4), which is four times more efficient than a gas boiler. Main issue is they really need under floor heating to reach those efficiencies which isn't really practical to retrofit in most places. Also, I don't know how realistic those sCOP numbers are.
Quote from: Dex Sawash on November 26, 2021, 12:58:56 PMHeat pumps tend to need a lot more repair than gas furnace married with normal cycle a/c combo units as they get "old" and are often replaced entirely before they turn 10. The extra sophisticated ones aren't going to be lower maintenance. A svc call for a $30 capacitor is probably $400 for a normie and thats only if the pirates don't sell them the related motor and capacitor.
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on November 26, 2021, 01:04:40 PMThis is sort of my worry about more modern passivehaus type things, they're basically a symbiotic system with lots of insulation and also heat pumps / mvhr, some even have things like heat recovery on appliances like fridges and the wastewater from your shower, nothing is wasted but what happens in these tightly-coupled systems when a bespoke component goes pop and the manufacturer no longer exists?
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