And wear a fucking mask please
Started by Mobius, November 23, 2021, 09:19:11 PM
Quote from: Mobius on November 23, 2021, 09:19:11 PMis he that bad?
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on November 23, 2021, 10:31:02 PMHale & Pace. I thought they were a bit crap in the late 80s/90s, but on revisiting some of their stuff on YouTube, they've had me roaring with the old 'laffs'.
Quote from: Mister Six on November 23, 2021, 09:22:26 PMHas he ever spoken about why he made that change? Living outside the UK for the past 15 years or so, I was surprised to discover that Frankie Boyle had transformed from a tedious, mean-spirited cunt who did sub-Jimmy Carr gags about disabled kids to a passionate and thoughtful campaigner for the betterment of a Tory-wracked UK. Was it a sudden shift, or did his output slowly transition from "cunt" to "actually, not a cunt"?
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on November 24, 2021, 12:47:58 AMA fair few of those similar "shock comics" from the late 00s/early 10s have made a similar kind of transition (perhaps not quite as brazenly as Boyle has). Sarah Silverman, Amy Schumer and Anthony Jeselnik are all "woke" comics now, even though they made their names doing similarly mean material. But Boyle had been making statements about how the BBC had pressured him not to talk about "serious issues" or what-have-you since before he left Mock The Week. But then he did leave Mock The Week and his answer was to do Tramadol Nights. And now he's back on the BBC.I think he's struggled to reconcile his "new self" with some of the material that made him famous. I think in an interview not too long ago he was still trying to defend the Harvey Price joke as being somehow woke, highlighting "attitudes towards disability", which is astonishingly disingenuous.
Quote from: Mister Six on November 23, 2021, 09:22:26 PMLiving outside the UK for the past 15 years or so, I was surprised to discover that Frankie Boyle had transformed from a tedious, mean-spirited cunt who did sub-Jimmy Carr gags about disabled kids to a passionate and thoughtful campaigner for the betterment of a Tory-wracked UK.
Quote from: Crenners on November 24, 2021, 04:31:29 AMChris Morris used to be breathtakingly funny and challenging. Now he makes well-meaning, slightly naff, forgettable TV movie farce which stinks of research. He's wasting his career.
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on November 24, 2021, 10:44:44 AMBill Hicks' righteous truth-seeker shtick hasn't aged well at all, and I agree that he sometimes came across as a sad, bitter incel wanker, but... I still maintain that he was a charismatic, funny comedian with a deft turn of phrase.While that doesn't excuse his rank misogyny and tiresome stabs at low-hanging pop culture fruit - yes, Bill Hicks, we all agree that Jimi Hendrix and The Beatles were more musically significant than New Kids on the Block - he was a cut above yer bog-standard 'angry' comedian. Quite a lot of his stuff was whimsical and daft. I always preferred him in that mode.
Quote from: Small Man Big Horse on November 24, 2021, 12:48:28 PMI can think of loads that I used to like but now struggle with, but those who I didn't like but now do is a harder thing to do. Looking through a list of the comedians I've seen in the last few years, whenever I saw Glenn Moore on tv he didn't impress but I thought he was pretty decent live, and I used to vaguely like Sara Pascoe but now love her as her book Animal: The Autobiography of a Female Body and recent stand up show were both superb, but other than that I'm struggling to come up with anyone.
Quote from: Alberon on November 24, 2021, 01:33:45 PMBill Hicks almost certainly wouldn't have become the minor legend that he did if he hadn't died.
Quote from: non capisco on November 23, 2021, 11:48:50 PMI have to mention it every time Hale and Pace come up, The Man Who Can't Take Anything Seriously sketch is mint and Gareth Hale has the perfect face for it. "A-give us your wallet!"
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on November 24, 2021, 01:43:50 PMBut I guess they'll always be regarded as the alternative comedy equivalent of Little & Large. Which I suppose they were, to a certain extent. And what's wrong with that, eh readers?!
Quote from: QDRPHNC on November 24, 2021, 01:56:32 PMThat's great, I love the first snigger in the lift before you even see him. I used to adore Hale and Pale when I was a kid.
Quote from: QDRPHNC on November 24, 2021, 01:56:32 PMI think there's a thing where... more recent generations have to sort of vocally oppose things they used to love, unless the thing they used to love makes an effort to "rehabilitate" themselves according to what we wish to see as we get older (such as Les Dennis appearing on a couple of Reeves & Mortimer shows). Not sure why. Maybe to disassociate yourself from the embarrassment of liking something hacky like H&P? Whereas my parents, for example, seemed quite happy to leave the things they loved in the past and remember them fondly.
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on November 24, 2021, 02:12:53 PMAnd then when you get older, you realise that these binary decicions are ridiculous.
Quote from: TheGingerAlien on November 24, 2021, 02:15:33 PMYou never hear much about Doug Stanhope these days... did he get 'cancelled' for saying something appalling or perhaps his liver packed in or something? Seem to remember thinking he was great years ago but I suspect the material hasn't aged that well (as per observations about Hicks above etc.)
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