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Started by Icehaven, November 11, 2021, 04:49:54 PM
Quote from: Pranet on November 13, 2021, 07:21:55 AMHe says it is on apple podcasts in the US and Canada.
Quote from: olliebean on November 13, 2021, 10:13:55 PMIs there a link for it? Apple podcasts run on RSS feeds, but Apple obscures the feed link. There are sites that will take an Apple podcast link and give you the URL of the RSS feed.
Quote from: Pranet on November 14, 2021, 04:06:20 PMThe link he gave goes here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/things-fell-apart-by-jon-ronson/id1592984136?ign-itscg=30200&ign-itsct=bbc_podcastsBut I don't know if that is any use to anyone. It says "Requires subscription" and I don't know what that means. I haven't used itunes for podcasts for a while so I don't know if there is some new stuff involved.
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on November 13, 2021, 08:08:45 PMYeah, I remember thinking that as well. It was the perfect project for Ronson; he'd just done a book about public shaming followed by a podcast about the US porn industry, and then here's a real-life tragic story that combines the two! I understand why someone in that position would rush to it, but it's a bit grim and I'm not sure the podcast really "honoured her memory" as such. You can imagine him reading the news and jumping on the phone to his co-producer: "Lina! We can go back to America and start looking at poooooorn again! Something's happened!"I do, generally, like Ronson though and have enjoyed pretty much everything he's put out. Some of it has aged poorly, but I reckon his heart's more or less in the right place.
Quote from: mr. logic on November 14, 2021, 07:04:26 PMDoesn't Lisa Ann make this point to him? I remember the interview being pretty tense, but can't reAlly recall the details.
Quote from: beanheadmcginty on November 13, 2021, 11:26:38 AMLittle chat between Jon and Ads Curts in the Guardian today:https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/nov/12/jon-ronson-and-adam-curtis-on-the-culture-wars-how-has-this-happened-where-is-the-escape-hatchCount me as another who thinks BBC Sounds needs to get cunted in the fuck.
Quote from: Mister Six on November 12, 2021, 08:50:36 PMAnnoyingly, this isn't available in the US, at least on the Sounds app or BBC website. Anyone got a clever workaround?Even my usual VPN isn't working for some reason, but I'd rather listen to it on my phone anyway.
Quote from: Pranet on November 24, 2021, 12:15:25 PMThe music from this goes around my head when I am feeling sad or anxious.
Quote from: icehaven on November 30, 2021, 09:18:07 PMThe high tinkly piano music? I'm sure I've heard it somewhere else but it might just be my unreliable memory. There's some other bits that sound like they could be from NIN's Still but I haven't listened to it for ages.
QuoteJR I like to steer clear of conflict as much as I can.AC Which is good and also rare. Most people would pursue her with their agenda. Right now, everyone is judged as either being good or bad. It's good versus evil – that's where journalism has got to now. But yours doesn't do that.JR I'm interested in everybody as a human being and I'm quite startled by the myriad examples of the media being a part of the culture wars. It seems to happen everywhere, this mistelling of a story so it fits into a particular ideology a little more clearly. It happens on all sides.
Quotejon ronson@jonronsonOh! I should say that every episode of Things Fell Apart has about five extra minutes in the podcast / bbc sounds version. Five golden minutes.10:35 PM · Dec 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone
Quotejon ronson@jonronsonAnd my pinned tweets explain how you can / will soon be able to listen to it.10:53 PM · Dec 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone
Quote from: icehaven on December 16, 2021, 04:50:19 PMThat's why I think these would be better if they were longer, and it's better when there's more voices involved too, like with the Satanic panic one where there were several interviewees from different sides of the issue. This latest one really felt like a section of a longer episode.
Quote from: icehaven on December 15, 2021, 07:24:22 PMCurrent episode is fairly pertinent, although it's so short it barely scratches the surface. I do wish these were longer
Quote from: Mobbd on December 16, 2021, 03:26:02 PMI'm not sure about the usefulness or even the truth of this "it was started by people trying to help" theme.So a Trans area was set up in a women-only feminist festival and, when they tried to expand it to include "pre-op" women, they were hounded out by TERFs (a non-derogatory term coined by a blogger to help make sense if this moment). So... what are we saying exactly? That the Trans women looking out for their pre-op sisters shouldn't have done so? That there never should have been a Trans presence at all? That the blogger who came up with "TERF" shouldn't have done so? That nobody should try to help with anything or even name or identify a cultural trend in case it makes things worse? I honestly don't know what is being said here. Anyone?I'm not even sure how finding the roots of these strands of the culture wars is supposed to help. I am not sure what to do with this origin story. Interesting to get it all down, I suppose, but I expect it already was.
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