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Starmer VIII: Labour will set you free

Started by pancreas, March 16, 2022, 08:54:56 AM

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Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on August 11, 2022, 10:19:21 AMI'm sorry to say I think they're just talking about socialising the losses, or in other words a bailout.

I think you're right, and I think there is a reasonable chance of this happening, unfortunatly. 

Buelligan

Sir Keir Starmer is an anagram of pointless berk.

Memorex MP3

Labour's first proposal for the cost of living crisis is about as shite as expected  https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/1557841812412403718


Starting to get the impression Starmer is gonna largely hide for the next few months and blame them doing shite on Reeves. It's his only non-action action at the moment, isn't it?

Armed Traffic Warden

  Why the fuck would companies be reimbursed?

Buelligan

Jesus Christ.  This is stuff they should have said a year, ten years, ago. 

Now is different, everyone having a level playing field to to robbed and murdered on is not a fucking aspiration. 

What is wrong with these cunts?  What do they spend their time dreaming up?

And, I agree, the reimbursement thing is insult to injury.  You've been robbing the very poorest, we're going to pay you to stop.  Fuck off.

olliebean

QuoteReeves says they'd bring pre-payment bills in line w/ direct debit to ensure "no one pays over the odds for the same gas & electricity"

Fuck me, that's poor. "We're going to make sure people who were already having trouble affording their bills can not afford their new, massively higher bills to a very slightly lesser degree than they wouldn't otherwise have been able to afford them."

Buelligan

And on Rwanda, DA-DAAAAH!  We're pressing the government to include a vegetarian option for the inflight meal!



I think we dropped that one actually, not cost-effective.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: olliebean on August 12, 2022, 08:03:30 AMFuck me, that's poor. "We're going to make sure people who were already having trouble affording their bills can not afford their new, massively higher bills to a very slightly lesser degree than they wouldn't otherwise have been able to afford them."

It's really impressive just how dedicated to not helping people the current lot are, just because they want to distance themselves from the previous lot.

Just pointing at an unguarded goal and going "the previous manager would've expected someone to kick it in there".

Sebastian Cobb

Lmao it looks like that even the prepayment thing comes with reimbursing the energy companies because they're not allowed to rip the poorest off. Fucking hell they really are toilet.

https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1557994628774772738

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on August 12, 2022, 08:52:43 AMLmao it looks like that even the prepayment thing comes with reimbursing the energy companies because they're not allowed to rip the poorest off. Fucking hell they really are toilet.

https://mobile.twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1557994628774772738
Until David Cameron stopped it, energy companies were required to give cheap social tariffs to the poorest people. There are still social tariffs to give cheap broadband to people on benefits (apparently that's more important than heating or cooking), but only a few companies offer them and they are very quiet about it so you need to know who to ask. It's definitely a good idea to restrict pre-pay costs to match normal costs, but it's not enough - millions are struggling to pay their bills on the direct debit rates. It's a crazy idea, but it's almost as if something which is an essential for life should be provided by the state to those in need.

king_tubby

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1558020131518910465?

QuoteLiz Truss said today that she will "change woke civil service culture that strays into antisemitism".

A Truss campaign source also accused Labour under Keir Starmer of being "a talking shop for antisemitism and antizionism."

No evidence provided for either of these charges.

Who could have predicted such a thing?????

Buelligan

A shocking surprise.  I won't link Baron Daniel Finkelstein OBE's article from yesterday for the Jewish Chronicle but here is the headline -

QuoteWhat's wrong with weaponising Labour left's antisemitism?

Hard to imagine that Truss and Murdoch's editor of The Times are working together.  It must just be that there's been long enough since the Forde thing dropped for people to imagine we don't remember what it said.

idunnosomename

Quote from: king_tubby on August 12, 2022, 11:02:09 AMhttps://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1558020131518910465?

Who could have predicted such a thing?????
enjoyed bienkov's whole "scorpion?" "lol lmao?" bit

What even is byline times except something for peter jukes to wank over

Fambo Number Mive

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on August 12, 2022, 10:50:29 AMUntil David Cameron stopped it, energy companies were required to give cheap social tariffs to the poorest people. There are still social tariffs to give cheap broadband to people on benefits (apparently that's more important than heating or cooking), but only a few companies offer them and they are very quiet about it so you need to know who to ask. It's definitely a good idea to restrict pre-pay costs to match normal costs, but it's not enough - millions are struggling to pay their bills on the direct debit rates. It's a crazy idea, but it's almost as if something which is an essential for life should be provided by the state to those in need.

There's so much wrong with Britain now that can be traced back to Cameron's government. Austerity, Brexit (him calling the referendum and making it binding), the rise of Liz Truss (cabinet minister in his government). After Thatcher probably the PM that has done the most to make things worse for people in the UK.

Fambo Number Mive

FT journalist thinks Labour isn't purging enough:


shoulders

All utterly vile, of course,  but when the enemy* is vulnerable on cost of living and this is an issue that cuts across partly lines,  keep focused and keep punching.

*include all technocrats and melts you like from any party

idunnosomename

Was looking into this prick the other day

QuoteGanesh was active in Labour Students, the student wing of the Labour Party, having been inspired to join when he was 17 by Tony Blair's 1999 annual Labour Party Conference speech. In an interview with The Guardian at the time Ganesh described himself as "essentially a Portillista", comparing his politics to Michael Portillo's, who was the then Conservative Party Shadow Chancellor. Ganesh opted not to attend his local constituency Labour Party meetings as they were "too dominated by Trots".[3]

For two years he was a Researcher at the Policy Exchange, a Westminster-based think tank on the political right set up by Conservative MPs Nick Boles, Michael Gove and Francis Maude, and for five years he was political correspondent for The Economist.[1] Ganesh co-authored Compassionate Conservatism (2006) with Jesse Norman, which received the T. E. Utley Memorial Prize for young journalists.[4]

Another smol bean young journo with legit concerns about the left who got a start at Policy Exchange under Gove. lolling and lmaoing

Buelligan


Corbyn speaks out and wears his RMT badge with pride.

Inspector Norse

Margaret Hodge is on Twitter laying into Truss for weaponising antisemitism.

The replies make for, ahem, interesting reading.

Quote

What did they think was going to happen? The right were just going to say: 'Well that was a jolly useful trick to stop Corbyn in his tracks, time to pack it away and never use it again'?

idunnosomename

Margaret Hodge has spent her whole career growing a neck of brass

https://www.ft.com/content/4d9e16b4-ee3d-11e4-98f9-00144feab7de

Genuinely think theres something wrong with her brain she can be so blatantly hypocritical

Buelligan

It's called "privilege".  She believes she's entitled because she's exceptional.  In reality she's a horrible destructive black hole and I fervently hope she implodes very soon.

Famous Mortimer

Quote from: idunnosomename on August 12, 2022, 07:51:25 PMMargaret Hodge has spent her whole career growing a neck of brass

https://www.ft.com/content/4d9e16b4-ee3d-11e4-98f9-00144feab7de

Genuinely think theres something wrong with her brain she can be so blatantly hypocritical
She knows none of her friends, who were doing the same thing at the same time, will point our her hypocrisy, and nothing will change.

Buelligan

Well at least they've worn their fingers to the bone for the working class.


Sebastian Cobb

Used to have a pal that lived in hodges constituency. They ended up investing more time to single issue antiracist cry bullying than they did around hodge, in fact they started with 'you have to understand it was a very right wing area so she...'.

We don't talk these days.

FalknerHinton

Quote from: Buelligan on August 12, 2022, 08:18:10 PMWell at least they've worn their fingers to the bone for the working class.



Liz Smith is looking good for a dead woman.


shoulders

Quote from: Buelligan on August 12, 2022, 06:28:45 PM

Corbyn speaks out and wears his RMT badge with pride.

RMT have almost gone out of their way to not reference or associate with Corbyn during the media rounds concerning the current dispute and the recent COLC campaigns, which shows some tactical nouse on their part.

Buelligan

I agree.  They've comported themselves with boggling acuity.  Very hopeful IMO.