2022 Tory leadership election

[Buelligan]

I've said before, I wouldn't mind. Depending on the minerals involved, living in a cave and drinking spring water might well provide a greater radiation exposure than living next to a nuclear reactor and drinking from the tap. Indeed, the prevalence of natural radon in homes was uncovered because Stanley Watras triggered radiation detectors at the nuclear power station he worked at ... even though the station hadn't received any nuclear fuel yet.

Perfectly willing to admit my feelings about it are fairly coloured by the fact that my mum died young, she had two, quite different, primary tumours, she never smoked or drank but she lived next to a nuclear plant.  There were quite a few kids that died at my school too. 

I'm well aware of radon, I wouldn't support anyone planning to build up our stock of radon-emitters either.  And well aware that, for geopolitical reasons our governments have never been truthful about nuclear.  Did you know, back in the day, the Tory Green Initiative was sponsored by BNFL?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sellafield#MOX_fuel_quality_data_falsification

[Alberon]

Solar pannels, although useful in the "engery mix" certainly arn't a panacea for the reasons already stated.  Fusion power is the great hope.  I think we should be investing much more in places like Culham, who are doing some awsome work in this area.

I do hope the old joke of fusion being fifty years away and always will be will soon be invalidated. It'll probably never be quite as perfect a power generating system as its promised, but it has to be a vast improvement on fission stations, oil and coal.

[Mrs Wogans lemon drizzle]

I do hope the old joke of fusion being fifty years away and always will be will soon be invalidated. It'll probably never be quite as perfect a power generating system as its promised, but it has to be a vast improvement on fission stations, oil and coal.

Exactly, they have made significant strides in the last few years but still a question mark over how much Tritium they will need for large scale reactors vs how much is avaiable.

[Paul Calf]

Britain does still have feed-in tariffs, as I learned with 10 seconds of Googling. They don't pay nearly as well as they used to, though.

https://sse.co.uk/help/energy/feed-in-tariffs#:~:text=The%20Feed%2DIn%20Tariffs%20(FIT,scheme%20on%201st%20April%202019.

The Feed-In Tariff scheme is now closed
The Feed-In Tariffs (FIT) scheme is designed by the UK Government to encourage people to use renewable energy to power their homes. If you install an eligible renewable energy system, you could be paid for the electricity that you generate.

The UK Government closed the scheme on 1st April 2019. No new applications after this date will be accredited. You can find out more information on the Ofgem website.

[Paul Calf]

From the link to Ofgem:

On 18 December 2018 the government laid legislation which will close the FIT scheme to new applicants from 1 April 2019, barring some exceptions.

https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/publications/faq-fit-scheme-closure

I'm assuming that the big suppliers had a word with an energy minister at one of their paedo-orgies and told them exactly who gets paid to generate the fucking energy around here, sunbeam.

[olliebean]

https://sse.co.uk/help/energy/feed-in-tariffs#:~:text=The%20Feed%2DIn%20Tariffs%20(FIT,scheme%20on%201st%20April%202019.

Thanks for that - I knew the schemes were still running, but didn't realise they'd been closed to new applicants. That's dreadful, there's absolutely no justification for not paying people at the very least wholesale prices for any electricity they supply to the grid.

<edit> It seems to have been replaced by the "SEG" scheme, which looks to be essentially the same thing.

[Paul Calf]

Justification: rich man think bad.

That's all the justification the Tories need.

[Sebastian Cobb]

Exactly, they have made significant strides in the last few years but still a question mark over how much Tritium they will need for large scale reactors vs how much is avaiable.

Didn't the Russians do fusion but it took more energy to put in than came out? That sounds unproductive but it's basically what happened with fission.

It's a pity that along with general fear, prospective nuclear plants are sticking with fairly poor designs, is it fast-breeder reactors that have waste products that are so inert they can be handled by hand?

[Crenners]

'Nucular is bad' is pure olde-worlde boomer cold war fears. It's the best way we've ever found to create energy from basically nothing. Yes, there will be the odd fuckdown but the alternative is worse overall.

We should build a load of offshore nuke rigs in the Irish and North Seas. I'm not being ironic here but Britain would be the POWER capital of the world. If it all goes to pieces, at least we tried and we give the Saudis a fucking good run for their money.

[Fambo Number Mive]

@PrivateEyeNews
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The NHS's record is "deplorable" and a social health insurance scheme is needed. Says who? The obscure think tank Liz Truss sits on the board of - although she's keeping very quiet about it during the leadership campaign. Full details in new Private Eye, out now.

@johnestevens
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Liz Truss is in Gloucestershire

She says: "We need to get on with delivering the small modular nuclear reactors which we produce HERE IN DERBYSHIRE"

@David__Osland
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The TUC estimates it would cost £2.8bn to nationalise the big five energy companies. If you want that in perspective, that's far less than the £4.3bn worth of fraudulent covid loans to business that Rishi Sunak happily wrote off.

[Blumf]

Didn't the Russians do fusion but it took more energy to put in than came out? That sounds unproductive but it's basically what happened with fission.

There are loads of fusion reactors around, mostly for experimental work, but even some DIY jobs. It's pretty easy to create fusion, the difficult bit is doing it with net positive energy output.

They can look cool though:

[Blumf]

80s throwback

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62513966

Liz Truss has defended earnings at energy companies amid soaring price rises, saying profits should not be considered "dirty and evil".

The Tory leadership hopeful said windfall taxes on profits - urged by some to fund help for households - were about "bashing business".

She said cutting taxes was the best way to help with living costs over winter.

[imitationleather]

What about all the businesses that are going to fold because everyone is spending all their money on energy over everything else?

Is worrying about them socialism?

[Buelligan]

'Nucular is bad' is pure olde-worlde boomer cold war fears. It's the best way we've ever found to create energy from basically nothing. Yes, there will be the odd fuckdown but the alternative is worse overall.

We should build a load of offshore nuke rigs in the Irish and North Seas. I'm not being ironic here but Britain would be the POWER capital of the world. If it all goes to pieces, at least we tried and we give the Saudis a fucking good run for their money.

You are so right.  I find this the best way to judge everything - what do boomers, any and all of them, what do they think? 

Once you've imagined the answer to that, you can solve anything.

[Dayraven]

What about all the businesses that are going to fold because everyone is spending all their money on energy over everything else?

Also, businesses are energy users too of course, so their bills are going up as well.

[Huxleys Babkins]

Also, businesses are energy users too of course, so their bills are going up as well.

And their bills aren't capped either.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Tory leadership candidate Liz Truss has pledged to clamp down on "woke" civil service culture that "strays into antisemitism".

Truss is accusing civil servants of being antisemites now. Of course she hasn't produced any evidence for this claim.

[Psybro]

It is literally like one of those prototype AI speech generators now.

[The British Empire] is at threat unless we [cut tax on business] or else [Labour supporting journalists] will give us more [county lines gangs].

[Mr_Simnock]

And their bills aren't capped either.

UK manufacturing, farming and services like restaurants and hotels about be made economically unviable (edit)

[Crenners]

You are so right.  I find this the best way to judge everything - what do boomers, any and all of them, what do they think? 

Once you've imagined the answer to that, you can solve anything.

Amen.

[Bleeding Kansas]

Tory leadership candidate Liz Truss has pledged to clamp down on "woke" civil service culture that "strays into antisemitism".

Truss is accusing civil servants of being antisemites now. Of course she hasn't produced any evidence for this claim.

Surely being woke, by definition, precludes antisemitism?

The culture war can be very confusing sometimes.

[pigamus]

If you've ever used the word 'Palestinian' that means you'd support another holocaust, that's my understanding

[jobotic]

Liz Truss has set out a plan to "protect British Jewry" from "creeping antisemitism" and "woke culture" in the civil service, while praising Jews for holding values such as protecting the family unit and setting up businesses.

The Conservative leadership candidate published a plan that targets "woke civil service culture that strays into antisemitism". She did not give examples of this but it is thought to be a reference to councils and their pension funds that participate in boycott, divestment, sanctions (BDS) policies that involve cutting ties with businesses that invest in Israel.

I heard the civil service is rife with people saying that Jewish people don't value protecting the family unit. Setting up businesses? Is that what Jewish people do Liz? Like Indian people run cornershops?


Councils and their pension funds have every right to invest or divest how they want without taking instructions from government, as was made clear in a court case last year. And they aren't run by the civil service.

[bgmnts]

Equating Jews with traditionalist tory cunts is pretty anti-semitic isn't it?

[Psybro]

She's one step removed from "I heard you lot are good with money, we could definitely do with a few of you in the Treasury!!", it's pretty staggering stuff.

[Inspector Norse]

Truss is accusing civil servants of being antisemites now. Of course she hasn't produced any evidence for this claim.


Surely being woke, by definition, precludes antisemitism?

The culture war can be very confusing sometimes.

It's not confusing at all. It's just dead-cat scapegoating, there's no effort to make it make sense or need for it to do so.

[Mr Farenheit]

So many Jewish values are Conservative values and British values too, for example seeing the importance of family and always taking steps to protect the family unit

Like Boris Johnsons' various family units?

Its all a bit patronising, she makes Jews sound like they're not really British.

[bgmnts]

Don't forget setting up businesses. Jews love businesses see.

[idunnosomename]

PROTECT FAMILY UNIT

I AM LIZ TRUSS PLEASE INSERT GIRDER

[Pink Gregory]

Lead Poisoning Party