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Started by pancreas, August 06, 2019, 04:45:02 PM
QuoteListening to Dirty Mind again, I was struck by something that sounded like an echo of Van Halen's song 'Jump', so I looked up the dates. Dirty Mind, 1979/80; Van Halen, 1983/84. Now look up the respective entries on Wikipedia. Van Halen gets paragraphs of technically specific praise – 'driven by a keyboard line, played on an Oberheim OB-X' – and self-glorifying quotes: 'We recut it once in one take for sonic reasons.' Does Prince get similar praise for his far-sighted innovation, for creating the template for so much pop-rock to come? No, he gets: 'demo-like'. Which is typical: reams of purple prose for the latecomer white rockers, while the black artist's risky investment is derided, overlooked or taken for granted.
Quote from: pancreas on August 06, 2019, 04:45:02 PMIan Penman seems to write about music rather well. He wrote about Prince in a recent LRB. Having basically never listened to Prince before, I've been making my way through his rather substantial catalogue. Hugely interesting, inventive stuff, no? Sign O The Times in particular is dizzyingly creative.This bit resonated (footnote 2):It's spot on ... Anyway, maybe say some stuff about Prince.
Quote from: pancreas on August 06, 2019, 04:45:02 PMHaving basically never listened to Prince before, I've been making my way through his rather substantial catalogue.
Quote from: Funcrusher on August 06, 2019, 05:18:53 PMHaven't thought about or read Ian Penman in years, but 80's hi falutin NME writers will always have a place in my heart. That said, his point there is just bobbins. There are many examples in which black artists are underrated and overlooked compared to often inferior white artists, but the idea that Prince has been critically overlooked, least of all compared to Van Halen, is just tosh. Certainly in his imperial 80's period he had god status for critics and was written about very extensively.
Quote from: jamiefairlie on August 06, 2019, 08:26:10 PMPrince is shit...
Quote from: jamiefairlie on August 06, 2019, 08:26:10 PMPrince is shite
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