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When The Simpsons was good

Started by kalowski, November 17, 2023, 07:19:12 PM

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checkoutgirl

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on March 19, 2024, 10:45:25 AM"There's some she-males in gazebo three

Transphobia was a type of stand in for homophobia for years when homophobia became wrong. Simpsons series 10 has a bit about a saving money guru economising by the dolly birds on his yacht being cheaper because they used to be men.

And everyone watching at the time (1999/2000) was probably like "yeah that's fine". I'm not sure when transphobia started to be politically incorrect for more general audiences but I'm thinking around 2005-2010 maybe? Some comedy shows took even longer.

checkoutgirl

Quote from: neveragain on March 19, 2024, 10:49:39 AMhunting seems out of character for him, Moe and Barney.

More out of character than going to space in a rocket?

checkoutgirl

Quote from: DrGreggles on March 19, 2024, 10:51:36 AMHomer being portrayed as a bad person (rather than just an idiot)

His reasoning behind being homophobic is idiotic though.

"It's not usual".

The rationale for him stopping being homophobic is a bit depressing because it took his life being saved by a gay person. And it's just not a practical method of irradicating homophobia at scale. A bitter sweet denouement.

Psybro

Quote from: checkoutgirl on March 20, 2024, 10:39:15 AMAlways had a soft spot for that. The little Australian boy Bart tricks at the start, his accent slips into Russian at one point. The little squeak noise as he rides his tricycle into the distance to check his neighbour's water direction.

Cart Your Arse On In.

Disparaging the boot is a bootable offence.

The soldiers eating the flag.

Nine hundred dollaridoos???

neveragain

Quote from: checkoutgirl on March 20, 2024, 10:57:37 AMMore out of character than going to space in a rocket?

Obviously Homer can do anything but going out hunting is something that fits in better with King Of The Hill was the nub of my gist.

idunnosomename

Quote from: checkoutgirl on March 20, 2024, 10:57:37 AMMore out of character than going to space in a rocket?
In that episode its not out if character at all. NASA are looking for the most regular tv-obsessed guy to use in their space programme. The space transport system is totally fictional but actually fairly plausible-looking.

Unless you mean the season twenty whatever where a rocket takes them to Kang and Kodos's planet in which case take thyself to the journey through shit thread.

checkoutgirl

Quote from: idunnosomename on March 20, 2024, 12:10:10 PMIn that episode its not out if character at all. NASA are looking for the most regular tv-obsessed guy to use in their space programme.

Yeah but he had to get in shape to be an astronaut and Homer hates exercise. Out. Of. Character.

Worst. Episode. Ever.

Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Quote from: checkoutgirl on March 20, 2024, 12:21:00 PMYeah but he had to get in shape to be an astronaut and Homer hates exercise. Out. Of. Character.

Worst. Episode. Ever.
IIRC there wasn't a ton of "getting in shape", just standard astronaut training stuff. Barney was the ultimate winner because they made him quit drinking.

The Mollusk

"I don't get it... That was non-alcoholic champagne."

idunnosomename

Deep Space Homer is quite a bit like Homer's Phobia in that it's clearly written around a very simple publicity-grabbing pitch: "WHAT IF HOMER GOES INTO SPACE>???", and A Very Special Episode about homophobia.

The thing is the former earns it by writing a good story around it (Motivation of Homer being beaten by an inanimate carbon rod, opportunity coming along by sheer chance, Homer proves himself, then a bathetic and subversive conclusion of how he ends up overshadowed by a carbon rod again).

Homer's Phobia just has him being an obnoxious cunt to a gay man purely because he's gay, even more so when he thinks hes making his son act a bit camp, then grudgingly admitting gay people are okay because of a robot santa proving very convenient in resolving a heavily contrived situation with some reindeer. Congrats, prejudice against homosexuals is solved forever, here is your Emmy.

dontpaintyourteeth


The Mollusk


Psybro

In a season with increasingly outlandish plots, Deep Space Homer really stands out for having the daftest premise, and not one but two cartoon physics visuals with Homer's face distorting into Popeye and Nixon. A definite shark-jumping moment after four years and almost 100 episodes.

Except it's fucking great and it doesn't matter.

Gulftastic

Deep Space Homer is worth every single second of outlandish plot for Kent Brockman's insect overlords bit. One of the finest pieces of comedy ever.

checkoutgirl

Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on March 20, 2024, 12:31:23 PMIIRC there wasn't a ton of "getting in shape", just standard astronaut training stuff.

No there was DVD extras including 22 minutes of previously unseen footage of Homer training for the space mission. Calistenics, resistance training, weights and an extensive aerobics programme. Also included is a interview featurette where Homer confirms that he is not enjoying the training, does not feel it suits his character and that he cannot wait to get to space just so that he can come home again.

13 schoolyards

It's not the funniest moment, but the scene in The Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show where the kids test group demands a realistic, down-to-earth show that's completely off the wall and swarming with magic robots basically invented the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

So probably one for the Shit Simpsons thread come to think of it

checkoutgirl

And they should get prizes just for watching. And one kid loves the bathing suit guy.

madhair60


Video Game Fan 2000

^ actual picture of Madhair60 when a shrinkwrapped copy of Sonic R appears on eBay

spaghetamine

"The eating of an orange is a lot like a good marriage"
"Just eat the damn orange!"

madhair60

Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on March 20, 2024, 03:56:48 PM^ actual picture of Madhair60 when a shrinkwrapped copy of Sonic R appears on eBay

i actually have nothing to say to counter this. it's nailed on

Mobbd

Dunno if this has been mentioned yet, but Homer as guru:

"Lather, rinse and repeat. Always repeat."


I think of it every time I wash my hair.

I'm shocked to see I'm so amused by something in Season 10 but credit where it's due.

Mobbd

"See all that stuff in there, Homer? That's why your robot never worked."



The backstory. And the kindly way Marge says it.


C_Larence

Quote from: Mobbd on March 31, 2024, 06:12:15 PM"See all that stuff in there, Homer? That's why your robot never worked."



The backstory. And the kindly way Marge says it.

Similarly, "Your father can be surprisingly sensitive. Remember when I giggled at his Sherlock Holmes hat, he sulked for a week and then closed his detective agency."

I love those lines that create a life outside of what we see.

BJBMK2


Mobbd

Came across this on my ongoing Conan discovery odyssey. I wasn't sure about the self-congratulatory inside baseball at first but it turns out to be very warm, witty and collegial. A nice podcast-like chat by the writers of early The Simpsons.


Spoiler alert
Jub-Jub
[close]

Justin Smart

Quote from: C_Larence on March 31, 2024, 06:50:01 PMSimilarly, "Your father can be surprisingly sensitive. Remember when I giggled at his Sherlock Holmes hat, he sulked for a week and then closed his detective agency."

I love those lines that create a life outside of what we see.

This is why I always preferred The Simpsons to Family Guy. Family Guy always explains jokes in those cutaways, which are hardly ever funny. I think it's much funnier to not show these things.

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