Glin's Slide No. 9: TransIXclusionary

[canadagoose]

How about someone making this into one of those thread emoji things?

Yes! And also can someone Photoshop that hat onto the man himself

[jobotic]

Beloved Internet Banana Aunt

[Jumblegraws]

IT'S PENIS-BANTER HELEN TIME

[Famous Mortimer]

Glinner gets a brief mention in this excellent piece by Owen Jones, which I imagine will have are Graham frothing at the mouth right about now.

https://owenjones84.medium.com/the-lies-of-anti-trans-rights-activists-need-to-be-rebutted-once-and-for-all-2780ad5f908

[Kankurette]

Well played. He's spot on.

Aye. If you fundamentally don't care about sport then issues like structural reform and representation possibly won't even occur to one to think about, through pure disinterest.

Especially true if structural reform is also anathema due to centrist politics. Not that much attention paid to gender representation and levelling in male dominated blue collar work compares to highlighting gender representation at male dominated director level. These people want totemic victories at the top, not structural reform from the floor upwards. In fact, one could argue they are slightly scared structural reform would expose that as wealthy Western white women (Wx4) they are the second most privileged group of people by some distance, and such reform would inevitably threaten that*

*particularly if the reform dealt with property ownership

They do not like being reminded that white women can be privileged too.

ETA: it's a real shame about Nimco Ali, because she does such good anti-FGM work, but she's got a huge blind spot where Johnson is concerned, she thinks he can do no wrong. I get her Labour MP was useless about FGM and apparently Johnson wasn't, but how is the tank-topped bum boys comment not homophobic?

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

Good on The Boy Jones there.

[Jumblegraws]

Glinner gets a brief mention in this excellent piece by Owen Jones, which I imagine will have are Graham frothing at the mouth right about now.

https://owenjones84.medium.com/the-lies-of-anti-trans-rights-activists-need-to-be-rebutted-once-and-for-all-2780ad5f908

From the comments section:

At no point do you have the guts to engage with what you insist is transphobia. At no point have you questioned why women may be critical of gender, why women who marched against the poll tax, the bomb and blahblahblahbananasblah

This fucking bullshit claim, every single time. Just because Jones won't engage with the millionth transphobe sealioning him with their GC talking points on a given day, doesn't mean he hasn't taken (wasted) the time giving your arguments a fair hearing a thousand years ago, you entitled dolt.

To say nothing of the arrogant, no true Scotsmanism of concluding that Jones disagreeing with GC women (a minority, as he points out) means he has a "women problem".

Wish these transphobic societal millstones would fucking die off already.

ETAThe Iain Duncan Smiths released this today, cheered me up a bit:TERF, Wind & Fire -Sex/Gender

[retsuza]

EDIT: see above

[Kankurette]

My mum marched against all those things and she manages not to be transphobic.

[DreadedScotsman]

TERF, Wind and Fire

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1423694545372553220?s=19

ETA I missed that it had already been shared

[phantom_power]

From the comments section:This fucking bullshit claim, every single time. Just because Jones won't engage with the millionth transphobe sealioning him with their GC talking points on a given day, doesn't mean he hasn't taken (wasted) the time giving your arguments a fair hearing a thousand years ago, you entitled dolt.

To say nothing of the arrogant, no true Scotsmanism of concluding that Jones disagreeing with GC women (a minority, as he points out) means he has a "women problem".

Wish these transphobic societal millstones would fucking die off already.

ETAThe Iain Duncan Smiths released this today, cheered me up a bit:TERF, Wind & Fire -Sex/Gender

It's like them calling everyone who supports trans rights a paedo enabler and misogynist and then accuse the pro-trans side of being abusive and "TERF is a slur"

[selectivememory]

ETAThe Iain Duncan Smiths released this today, cheered me up a bit:TERF, Wind & Fire -Sex/Gender

Lovely stuff. Still the best account on Twitter.

[phes]

amazing. Is it a CaBber. The 'anyday now' made me wonder but the total absence of bananas makes me think no

[phantom_power]

It would be interesting to see the stats on how many woman have been subjected to trans women waving their penises in toilets and changing rooms, and the corresponding statistic of trans women getting abused, attacked or questioned in them. I am willing to bet that the latter is far more prevalent than the former

[FalknerHinton]

Well played. He's spot on.They do not like being reminded that white women can be privileged too.

ETA: it's a real shame about Nimco Ali, because she does such good anti-FGM work, but she's got a huge blind spot where Johnson is concerned, she thinks he can do no wrong. I get her Labour MP was useless about FGM and apparently Johnson wasn't, but how is the tank-topped bum boys comment not homophobic?

I'm not sure of the timeline of this, if it predates her approaching Johnson about the FGM stuff or not, but she's godmother to one of BoJo's kids, isn't she? I've no idea which one, and frankly neither does Boris.

e: that'll teach me for not reading the article before posting, I see that gets a mention in Owen's piece. Oops.

[wrec]

That Jones piece is eye-opening - I knew Moore wasn't fired but not the extent to which she misrepresented everything, or how little he'd engaged with some of the big name terfs. Just goes to show how they can affect the narrative even if you're agin 'em.

[idunnosomename]

Wow

Hi, Neil! I didn't include my final line because I thought I'd already made my thoughts clear by calling you a misogynist ghoul. But I absolutely think you are a monster for glibly wishing permanent ill-health on a young woman. So I'll say it again: You are a fucking monster.

So if you "transition" you are permanently ill. Dysphoria must be "cured" in other ways.

Fucking monsterbanana.

Also Douglas Murray is such a genuine fascist it's truly frightening how "respectable" he is. But that's way it's been for our establishment. Socialism is not an alternative to fascism. That's why theres a fucking statue and blue plaque to Nancy Astor[nb]ireland has a statue of Constance Markievicz now though[/nb] and Lady Moseley got to be on Desert Island Discs and Corbyn didn't.

[retsuza]

Holy fuck he was even worse in the Gaiman emails than he let on. Let's remember that it started with Graham seeing this:



And ended in him telling Gaiman to fuck off, that he's a fucking monster. Unhinged is bloody right.

[Jumblegraws]

That Jones piece is eye-opening - I knew Moore wasn't fired but not the extent to which she misrepresented everything, or how little he'd engaged with some of the big name terfs. Just goes to show how they can affect the narrative even if you're agin 'em.

Sames. I was bracing myself for some stone-cold contradiction of his claims, but seems to be all quiet on the tervern front
ETA: I did see this from Helen Lewis, a har-dee-har attempt to pre-empt Jones's article:

If he's busy I could write it for him: Douglas Murray is a bigot therefore GC feminism is bigoted, list a few egregious Murray pieces, quick Taki ref, done. He'd rather argue with Murray - a panto villain - than [Janice fucking Turner], because he's in danger of his fanbase finding you credible.

So in rebutting accusations that he's a misogynist because he targets GC women in his writing, he's proving that he's a misogynist by not targeting GC women in his writing.
Also, Murray is a 'panto villain'? Check your privilege, Lewis, you sheltered smugarse.

[FalknerHinton]

Holy fuck he was even worse in the Gaiman emails than he let on. Let's remember that it started with Graham seeing this:



And ended in him telling Gaiman to fuck off, that he's a fucking monster. Unhinged is bloody right.

He saw a year old post on tumblr that doesn't mention him by name, and isn't even about him, but because it's about a special someone he goes off the deep end at a pretty anodyne (if welcome) statement.

And JK Rowling *still* won't notice him, even after all the white knighting he does for her. Given how we know that BC views all relationships as transactional, that she won't even acknowledge him must boil his piss.

[Jumblegraws]

I would love to see how personally he took it if Rowling ever rolled back on her position.

[Dr Rock]

Inevitably, one of his kids will transition.

[chveik]

we'll see if they do a harry potter reboot or some shit

[JamesTC]

we'll see if they do a harry potter reboot or some shit

They'll cut out Ralph for not being woke enough, I bet.

[dead-ced-dead]

They'll cut out Ralph for not being woke enough, I bet.

He'll get his own spinoff

Ralph Linehan and the Banana Plant of Carbonara

[idunnosomename]

Sames. I was bracing myself for some stone-cold contradiction of his claims, but seems to be all quiet on the tervern front
ETA: I did see this from Helen Lewis, a har-dee-har attempt to pre-empt Jones's article:So in rebutting accusations that he's a misogynist because he targets GC women in his writing, he's proving that he's a misogynist by not targeting GC women in his writing.
Also, Murray is a 'panto villain'? Check your privilege, Lewis, you sheltered smugarse.

i heard helen lewis on feedback this afternoon (worth noting, not produced by the BBC, it's out-sourced to whistledown prods) and they actually mentioned her controversial trans position. her r4 show is "just asking questions to find the middle ground" fash-enabling nonsense. it was still too kind of course.

of course all these sensible classical liberals hate graham linehan for yelling the quiet part while shitting into a bucket naked with a saucepan on his head banging it with a wooden spoon

[An tSaoi]

I would love to see how personally he took it if Rowling ever rolled back on her position.

She's only pretending to roll it back because of the death threats she receives every day. Another example of a woman being silenced by the buffalo bills.

or

HANDMAIDEN

[JaDanketies]

In response to openDemocracy's request for comment, Linehan sent an email saying he is not 'transphobic'. However he misgendered Bristow; called her "a drug pusher who targets vulnerable children" in reference to her role working in trans healthcare; and said he was "delighted to hear" that his writing may have been linked to her suspension.

article from yesterday - 'I lost my candidacy because I'm trans': English Green Party member Kathryn Bristow

[Kankurette]

Wow

So if you "transition" you are permanently ill. Dysphoria must be "cured" in other ways.

Fucking monsterbanana.

Also Douglas Murray is such a genuine fascist it's truly frightening how "respectable" he is. But that's way it's been for our establishment. Socialism is not an alternative to fascism. That's why theres a fucking statue and blue plaque to Nancy Astor[nb]ireland has a statue of Constance Markievicz now though[/nb] and Lady Moseley got to be on Desert Island Discs and Corbyn didn't.

And I bet Corbyn's got better music taste.

I suppose Bananacunt doesn't realise that he's heading down a slippery slope re LGB people as well. Because why stop at conversion therapy for trans people?

[Barry Admin]

He's been busted, Katy Montgomerie has retweeted some funny stuff:



Seems like people are going "oh, JK Rowling...it's him isn't it?"

This by Rani Baker in his replies: