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Started by Small Man Big Horse, June 25, 2021, 09:11:24 PM
Quote from: sevendaughters on July 31, 2022, 09:54:15 AMWe're in our third decade of reality television as a concentrated format and plank of television output, selective editing for meannness, cruelty, aspiration, success, etc. abounds in those formats and has developed into a further strand of 'constructed reality'. Here is a show that doesn't just parody it, it lays it all out, from casting to prompting to rehearsing to manipulating etc. Likely the educated viewer of the show knows all of this, but the reminder of the effort it takes to cohere a false reality is worthwhile and is funny in itself.
Quote from: Petey Pate on August 01, 2022, 12:52:27 PMHaven't seen anyone else point this out but it seems clear to me that the premise of this series was anticipated in the Finding Frances episode of Nathan For You, where they rehearsal how Bill should go about his reunion with Frances. On that note, this bit always kills me and just thinking about it makes me giggle.https://youtu.be/Z2IS9c9ZtSw
Quote from: Memorex MP3 on August 01, 2022, 03:26:45 AMHBO have always had a great development stream haven't they? Things like getting a veteran like Paul Simms involved in Girls to flesh it all out.HBO feels like it has had a lot of good shit lately. I wonder if enough people were burned by projects at Netflix or wherever that HBO have regained their status as the go to place. Like, it mightnt get as many eyes as on Netflix but you're gonna be working with people who will actually know how to improve your ideas.
Quote from: Petey Pate on August 01, 2022, 12:52:27 PMThat said, it's hard to feel sympathetic towards an antisemitic 'gold digger' or a deranged Christian conspiracy theorist, so if they are perceived as 'victims' they're at least more deserving of it.
Quote from: Ron Superior on August 01, 2022, 05:40:15 PMI didn't see the gold digging scene with Patrick as cruel because I actually saw it as a kind of redemptive scene for him. I was pretty shocked by his casual use of the whole Jew discussion, and seeing him offer to help some old guy he'd just met, and then actually changing his nappy in a pretty caring and understanding way, backed up his argument about how much he'd helped his own grandfather. I definitely saw it as a redemption, rather than a "punishment" or prank or whatever, for him. And while we don't know how the editing worked with the end of his participation in the show, it would at least seem that he did get help in facing the real issue of properly confronting his brother.
Quote from: QDRPHNC on August 01, 2022, 02:34:25 PMMm, I don't know if I can go along with that. I think the idea that someone with shitty opinions deserves their public humiliation (which is unrelated to their shitty opinions) is a questionable road to go down.As for whether or not they were humiliated any worse than a more standard reality show... hard to say. For me, one of the things that made the first episode so good, was that Kor was so relatable. He was eccentric, but seemed nice enough. We could relate to this issue he had blown out of all proportion in his head. And the comedy came from the fact that Fielder sort of took his issue at face value and let it bloom into something brilliant. Fielder was manipulating Kor, but in a relatively harmless and playful way that ultimately helped him get over what is a very minor hurdle in the grand scheme.I thought the Patrick segment was pretty unpleasant, due to the fact that it was pure manipulation of someone clearly in emotional pain, with I think a very shaky justification for doing so. With Angela as well, annoying as she is, I'm getting a sense that the show is punching down a bit, so maybe that's the reason I'm having a hard time with it.All that being said, Fielder is a talented guy and it's quite possible that this is all some kind of intentional set-up. We'll see.
Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on August 02, 2022, 01:36:08 AMQuestion I've been thinking and would love to hear your response :If you were asked to go on Nathan's show, would you do it? I'm a massive fan, and not mega worried about looking like a prat, but still, not sure
Quote from: notjosh on August 02, 2022, 09:34:10 PMI don't think this series uses any actors except the ones it's open about. Have you ever seen an actor acting? You can channel flick onto the greatest actor in the world and within 5 seconds you can spot their acting. Most actors are not good at looking like they are not acting.
Quote from: g0m on August 06, 2022, 11:14:24 PMi loved episode 4. when i noticed that Spoiler alertthomas and another student were one of the emts at the od[close]
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