Le Freak, C'est Bleak: Graham Linehan Is Still a Transphobe

[Egyptian Feast]

[YouCantWriteTearsJimmy]

What colour are you again, Graham? Why don't you go to Southport and talk to the mothers of the dead girls if you care so much?

Odd how he's more upset about people being mean to Birbalsingh than the actual murders. Or the fact that a teenage boy felt the need to target an event where the audience were little girls. But it's not about them, is it, Graham?

That would require him to acknowledge that there is a world outside of twitter.
He just can't bring himself to.

I'm saying it, Linehan's behavior makes more sense when you view it through the lens of mental illness and not through the lens of actual political activism. Sadly the line is blurred, especially in extremist circles.

[BennyHedgehog]

Graham will have received the initial ruling on David Paisley's defamation against him today.

The hearing was to determine whether the statements he made were defamatory and whether they were statements of fact or opinion.

If they were not defamatory and only statements of opinion my (potentially incorrect) understanding is the case would end there.


Given he hasn't mentioned anything on his twitter feed I'm assuming the case is still on and we're heading towards a trial.

EDIT: TBF he got the judgement at 12pm and I posted this just 11 mins after that. He stopped tweeting at 12 so hopefully there'll be some kind of reaction soon

[Kankurette]

I see the TERFs are kicking off about Lin Yu Ting and Imane Khelif, neither of whom are trans or intersex, but nope, they don't look feminine enough, so they're clearly men. There's something else they have in common, but I'm sure it's a coincidence.

[Mr_Rich]

That would require him to acknowledge that there is a world outside of twitter.
He just can't bring himself to.

I'm saying it, Linehan's behavior makes more sense when you view it through the lens of mental illness and not through the lens of actual political activism. Sadly the line is blurred, especially in extremist circles.

To me, it doesn't feel like there is any other explanation, he seems to genuinely believe the overall narrative of what he's saying, even if not always the detail, but to believe that every single person who holds a different opinion than you wants to mutilate children can't be anything but delusional.

It isn't an excuse for any of the things he's done, there's lots of other paths he could've taken but he chose this one and is responsible for every bit of it, but it has to be part of the explanation for where he is. It seems he has to keep believing it now though as if he doesn't then the only alternative is to accept that he's responsible for what's happened to his life and I don't think he has the ability to do that. 

[‘Orrible Cockney Villain]

The new potted history is great, informative even for old hands. The one thing I might add is his insistence he's been #cancelled despite having become a gobshite who's never off the air.

I agree, thanks for your hard work @Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

[Milo]

Judgement:

https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewhc/kb/2024/1976

[RicoMNKN]

The equation Naomi Klein gives in Doppelganger seems to apply in most cases, including our Graham's.

Narcissism + Social media addiction + Midlife crisis ÷ Public shaming = Right-wing meltdown

[BennyHedgehog]

Judgement:

https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewhc/kb/2024/1976

lol, all defamatory

This is the start of the end

[dead-ced-dead]

lol, all defamatory

This is the start of the end

Tide not turning then?

The document is unwieldy and I don't know which part I'm looking at. Can a smart adult screenshot the bit that says, "It is our judgement that phwoar this cunt's a nutter!"

[Zetetic]

The "conclusion" bit is fairly straightforward.

In a lot of the examples that Paisley has put forward, Linehan has tried to argue that he was just expressing an opinion rather than making a factual claim. The court has rejected this.

[Zetetic]

Find In Page, "102.", will get you there.

[BennyHedgehog]

Find In Page, "102.", will get you there.

[Kankurette]

I can think of a lot of those that apply to Linehan tbh. I mean, he's constantly targeting women.

[BennyHedgehog]

WAF makes an appearance from para 67

Paisley had complained about WAFs comments effectively being published by Glinner, but the decision was that these couldn't be included in the case as it's not clear to the judge the context in which they were made in

[Zetetic]

I see the TERFs are kicking off about Lin Yu Ting and Imane Khelif, neither of whom are [...] intersex

I don't believe that's publicly known, is a bit beside the point, and rapidly gets you into what counts as an "intersex" condition (effectively relitigating the whole thing anyway).

[dead-ced-dead]

Find In Page, "102.", will get you there.

I'm going to be honest, I did skim the article, and I should put on my dunce cap.

[PaulTMA]

Didn't know David Cann was a proper Big Racist.  Wonder if the reason he was so good on Jam was down to him being a proper weird cunt in all aspects of his life

[Jumblegraws]

Judgement:

https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewhc/kb/2024/1976

Nice to see the Laurence Fox case cited a few times, you're helping establish precedent, Greybum!

Belated thanks to PBGC for the thread opener

[idunnosomename]

Graham is currently ignoring his confirmed counts of defamation with the best outcome of the Olympic boxing; Angela Carini withdrew after 45 seconds with Imane Khelif. So not physically hurt but still "robbed" by a "man".

But these two boxers causing controversy arent transgender women. They are the sex they were assigned at birth. It's only increased gender scrutiny that has caused this.

Article laying it out

https://time.com/7006338/imane-khelif-lin-yu-ting-gender-controversy-olympics-women-boxing/

[Hope of Avalon]

Judgement:

https://caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ewhc/kb/2024/1976

lol, lmao even

[wrec]

Graham is currently ignoring his confirmed counts of defamation with the best outcome of the Olympic boxing; Angela Carini withdrew after 45 seconds with Imane Khelif. So not physically hurt but still "robbed" by a "man".

But these two boxers causing controversy arent transgender women. They are the sex they were assigned at birth. It's only increased gender scrutiny that has caused this.

In Terfworld, if someone AFAB is medically prescribed hormones they are a silly confused girl, but if a female athlete has high testosterone they're a violent cheating man - have I got that right?

A while since I've looked at his feed but he's really ramping up the Islamophobia too, RTing racist content about Ismail Haniyeh, and his goons are very excited that Imane Khelif is Algerian and mentioning Sharia law.

[Kankurette]

Graham Linehan: "How dare you disagree with Katherine Birbalsingh, who is black, you antiblack racist! Don't you know that she's black?"
Also Graham Linehan: *attacking North African/Asian/Muslim athletes*

[madhair60]

could someone explain what this defamation suit (?) loss means. payout, i assume.

[jobotic]

So he's on the side of the fascist filth destroying a mourning town then?


Thought he would be but nice of home to confirm it.

Let's not look at Linehan as any different to Tommy Robinson or Paul Goulding. He isn't. Just far-right scum.

[BennyHedgehog]

could someone explain what this defamation suit (?) loss means. payout, i assume.

He hasn't lost the case yet, just an appeal to have it thrown out of court

https://metro.co.uk/2024/07/04/joey-barton-pay-jeremy-vine-even-money-calling-a-bike-nonce-21165779/

Joey Barton had to pay out £110k in damages to Jeremy Vine for 14 tweets calling him a bike nonce

You could argue the accusations from Glinner are less jokey, more likely to be taken seriously as they're presented as journalism and show an ongoing pattern of harassment

So if he loses it wouldn't be surprising if the awards were higher.

And on top of that there'd have to be a determination of costs

[damien]

Christ you forget just how vile his 2021-2022 era was, the not-on-twitter years. An absolute cesspool.

[‘Orrible Cockney Villain]

could someone explain what this defamation suit (?) loss means. payout, i assume.

As @BennyHedgehog says, he's not lost the overall case yet. What this judgement means is that the things complained about are defamatory and the case can now proceed to a full trial, unless he settles out of court. 

[Better Midlands]

This judgement feels like it should have been the big moment at the end of thread as usually happens, the fact the writers saved it for the new thread is interesting.

[Elfking]

I love that... "So all those people in London were far-right?" YES! That's what we've been saying!

Those people in London are the same people rioting the last couple of nights. The same people threatening minorities, destroying the local area and attacking the police. Those people are the same ones chanting racist and xenophobic shit under the guise of "concern."

People attending a Tommy Robinson rally are far-right. I can't believe this is in debate to these people.

We all know the overlap between transphobes and far-right racists is basically a circle but I don't know why they are actively trying to make that connection more apparent.