Favourite Antiques Roadtrip Expert?

[Jim_MacLaine]

So underneath the dopey schoolboy act lay a sociopath.

I wonder if his terrible hair transplant set it off. Oof, that's bad.



And there's me thinking Philip Serrell would end up the first before the beak for 'something'.

[The Culture Bunker]

What format change has irked you? Just the one classic car? I assumed that was a sop to the eco-warriors rather than a cost thing.

I think it's been both of them in the one car as long as I've watched it - the recent changes are it's a kind of "Best of Five" job now, rather than the cash tally rolling over from episode to episode through the week. So it's not like someone can be miles behind going into Friday and suddenly pull it out of the mire.

Plus all the auctions take place in one go rather than somewhere in the general area they were travelling around in that day. I mean, I know the filming didn't really take place over a few days or whatever, but a bit of suspension of belief was fine.

[gilbertharding]

I think it's been both of them in the one car as long as I've watched it - the recent changes are it's a kind of "Best of Five" job now, rather than the cash tally rolling over from episode to episode through the week. So it's not like someone can be miles behind going into Friday and suddenly pull it out of the mire.

Plus all the auctions take place in one go rather than somewhere in the general area they were travelling around in that day. I mean, I know the filming didn't really take place over a few days or whatever, but a bit of suspension of belief was fine.

Ah right - I only ever watch the celebrity version (where they used to have a car per team), and am only *dimly aware* that the 'proper' version even exists!

[Gob Shine Algorithm]

Mmm. I've recently been enjoying Irita Marriott, that involuntary thing she does where, to express incredulity, her voice goes like Grover from Sesame Street ♥💕❤

[Wentworth Smith]

I think it's been both of them in the one car as long as I've watched it - the recent changes are it's a kind of "Best of Five" job now, rather than the cash tally rolling over from episode to episode through the week. So it's not like someone can be miles behind going into Friday and suddenly pull it out of the mire.

The new scoring system is an absolute disgrace and the final nail in Britain's coffin as even a moderate world power.

[The Culture Bunker]

The new scoring system is an absolute disgrace and the final nail in Britain's coffin as even a moderate world power.

Indeed. I had no choice but to kick in my TV - and send the BBC the bill.

[Gob Shine Algorithm]

Indeed. I had no choice but to kick in my TV - and send the BBC the bill.

I smashed in my TV, but I'm still getting licence fee value by having Lineker's tweets sent straight into my brain.

[Mr_Simnock]

Not even a contest is it

Absolutely damn right, the others have no chance at all, her voice alone makes me feel nice, that fabulous accent

[jamiefairlie]

Negus

[gilbertharding]

Back to this, it's been bothering me how they make it.

So, on the face of it, they have 10 days filming - that's two days per episode, five episodes per week (or is it 8 days, for four episodes?). They pootle around in the classic car... and every two days they go to an auction which is probably quite a long way from where they've been touring (or, perhaps if it's Covid, they go somewhere else and watch an auction on tablets).

But I'm not that naive, so I know that they probably compress the filming into three days and make-believe they've spent all that time. And of course the auctions don't happen at the end of every episode - there wouldn't be enough time to catalogue and advertise the lots, and anyway they're never anywhere near where they're fliming.

So - the auctions are all filmed later on. But how do they not only know who's won each day? Relatively easy to work that out I guess... but how do they know how much money to give them for the next day?

I can't make it work out, unless it's either a MASSIVELY COMPLICATED fix, where the auctioneer and the bidders are all complicit, or it's genuinely filmed in the correct order, and they don't set out for the next day's buying until after the auction no matter when that happens to be.

[Des Wigwam]

Similar to you I know it's all in the edit or whatever the phrase is but I have to actively disengage my brain into thinking it's all linear (on the occasions that I think about these things).

Because of this I've never considered that they don't buy / sell / travel (repeat) as it's seen. I suppose each of the component parts could be split up into the buying part - runners scope out shops and crap for them to buy, auctions - block of time going round auctions for a bit of filming (chosen for convenience and I bet they bring the lots up out of order to get the filming done), and then a few establishing shots of classic cars being driven. You'd only really have to stick to the same seasons so it's not 2' of snow followed by autumn leaves and then cherry blossom everywhere in the background.

Do they ever mention how much cash they have to spend when they're fleecing the fleecers? Or are they just inserts where the voiceover says things about healthy profit and what the current pots are at?

One question I would like answered is how much the programme makes up the shortfall for the dealers they're buying off. When they have things like "well, I have it priced at 1.8 million, what were you thinking?" "I have £30. How's that sounding?" "Make it 35 and it's a deal" - I assume that's all "scripted" bantz (including the classic - I'll ring the seller and see if they'll accept that stuff) and they pay the £35 and some production assistant pays the shortfall once filming is done.

[Wentworth Smith]

Might slip the seller a few quid  but doubt they make up the difference: would have been a pretty expensive episode when Paul Laidlaw bought a camera for about 60 quid and then sold it for 20 grand. Best bit was the voice-over proclaiming the seller was delighted the money had gone to charity.

[Mr_Simnock]

Similar to you I know it's all in the edit or whatever the phrase is but I have to actively disengage my brain into thinking it's all linear (on the occasions that I think about these things).

Because of this I've never considered that they don't buy / sell / travel (repeat) as it's seen. I suppose each of the component parts could be split up into the buying part - runners scope out shops and crap for them to buy, auctions - block of time going round auctions for a bit of filming (chosen for convenience and I bet they bring the lots up out of order to get the filming done), and then a few establishing shots of classic cars being driven. You'd only really have to stick to the same seasons so it's not 2' of snow followed by autumn leaves and then cherry blossom everywhere in the background.

Do they ever mention how much cash they have to spend when they're fleecing the fleecers? Or are they just inserts where the voiceover says things about healthy profit and what the current pots are at?

One question I would like answered is how much the programme makes up the shortfall for the dealers they're buying off. When they have things like "well, I have it priced at 1.8 million, what were you thinking?" "I have £30. How's that sounding?" "Make it 35 and it's a deal" - I assume that's all "scripted" bantz (including the classic - I'll ring the seller and see if they'll accept that stuff) and they pay the £35 and some production assistant pays the shortfall once filming is done.

judging by how much stuff loses money I don't believe for a second any one scopes anything out at all, what would a runner know anyway, they would juts chose random stuff

[Des Wigwam]

Might slip the seller a few quid  but doubt they make up the difference: would have been a pretty expensive episode when Paul Laidlaw bought a camera for about 60 quid and then sold it for 20 grand. Best bit was the voice-over proclaiming the seller was delighted the money had gone to charity.

Of course - I meant the shop price not the auction price. One of the big meaty ones spotted a Georgian glass for £1 that sold for maybe £90 so imagine they paid just a quid for it. I'd have thought the ones where they barter someone down to 1/10th of the ticket price might be a bit of Television Magic (i.e. someone peels off a few notes from petty cash when the camera is off).

judging by how much stuff loses money I don't believe for a second any one scopes anything out at all, what would a runner know anyway, they would juts chose random stuff

I was using scopes in the sense that a runner goes in and makes sure it's not complete tat - but maybe they just go in and ask if they can film - which the shop owner will get some compensation for. I think with losing money it's just the way that auctions go - I suppose in their pre-TV days when they were all out fleecing pensioners full time they bundled tat up into lots to sell and then had specialist buyers for decent stuff.

[Wentworth Smith]

A lot if it seems to depend on the auctioneers as to whether they make money or not. You can tell when the experts think they are decent or shite (more than a couple of utterings of 'it should have got more than that' and you can tell they think the person with the gavel is a disgrace and should be the auctioneer equivalent of struck off).

[Jim_MacLaine]

The whole premise of the show is based on a flaw.

You don't buy retail to sell at an auction. It's the other way round.

As for the dealers accepting lower offers it's basically down to it being good publicity.

That's not to say that Joe public will receive the same treatment.

They won't.

[Mr_Simnock]

You can get money off ticket price in some shops, not a lot but it can be done, usully around 5-10% tops depending on the item and seller

[The Culture Bunker]

Previously, it always seem the edit made it at least look like at the end of the episode, the auction was at least somewhere in the vicinity of the area they'd been driving round. When they're in Cumbria, they go to a spot down near Carnforth, for instance. Plus the rolling tally of cash helped give the feel of some kind of competition up until the last moment.

Though really, the main reason to watch was the two bods involved and their various quirks - always liked James Braxton's gritted teeth expression when he lost more money, the as-mentioned Irita growl of incredulity (obviously the producers agree, as they stuck her "nooooooo" in the intro for one series). Some of the new people they brought in were a bit bland - Ishy and Hetti - but the new format didn't do them any favours.

Anyways, I've switched over to Car SOS for my crap TV fill. Tim Shaw is a bit of a dickhead, but I'm still finding it amusing seeing the drummer from Pop Will Eat Itself messing around with, for example, an old Ford Escort MkII RS2000.

[Gob Shine Algorithm]

Anyways, I've switched over to Car SOS for my crap TV fill. Tim Shaw is a bit of a dickhead, but I'm still finding it amusing seeing the drummer from Pop Will Eat Itself messing around with, for example, an old Ford Escort MkII RS2000.

x Storage Wars UK is where it's at.