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Title: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cursus on July 23, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Oh, dear God. I thought Covid was bad enough:

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwZms2Q/Gerva-life.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on July 23, 2020, 10:09:49 PM
Sadness behind the eyes.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on July 23, 2020, 10:15:16 PM
He's got a decanter there, beneath his awards.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on July 23, 2020, 10:17:46 PM
He'll just have to delete "(First Draft)" and it's good to go. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DrGreggles on July 23, 2020, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Cursus on July 23, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Oh, dear God. I thought Covid was bad enough:

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwZms2Q/Gerva-life.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/53ZsRmd.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on July 23, 2020, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cursus on July 23, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Oh, dear God. I thought Covid was bad enough:

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwZms2Q/Gerva-life.jpg)

Wait, has Ricky Gervais won any awards? He never mentions it, or strategically points his camera at them.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on July 23, 2020, 10:47:30 PM
YES!!!!!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: batwings on July 23, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
Never seen After Life. Any good?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dr beat on July 23, 2020, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: DrGreggles on July 23, 2020, 10:30:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/53ZsRmd.jpg)

We fear change.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on July 23, 2020, 11:25:02 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on July 20, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
It should be said that while Fighting With My Family was a generic and cliche riddled sports/coming of age dramedy, it was a really, really good example of how to make cliches work. It had the right amount of laughs and air punching moments! While it's no classic, it is head and shoulders above After Life.

One thing my partner and I liked about Fighting with My Family was the juxtaposition of flashy Florida and tarmaccy Norwich. Enjoyed it. And an unexpected subject matter from Stephen Merchant. A slightly time-slipped wrestling biopic.

Gervais, meanwhile, continues to stun me. Whenever I see him pontificate for few seconds in an autoplaying Facebook video, positioned as a self-appointed Bertrand Russell of comedy, he reminds me of some of the amateur comics I know. Just the shallowest takes on offense and satire. Hours of drivel delivered with a philosophical air. Desperate to be one of the Incisive, Clever Comics - but one who also wrote Derek. Now there's a juxtaposition.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on July 23, 2020, 11:50:58 PM
Gervais is The Darkness of comedy. In that they were rock music for people who don't really like rock music. Or still are in a desolate fashion.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: evilcommiedictator on July 24, 2020, 12:04:08 AM
His entire house is now covered in his spunk after thinking how many people he's annoyed with that picture
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 24, 2020, 12:05:44 AM
i kinda hope all his awards fall on his silly little black tshirt-clad bod and he is trapped and cant reach his iphone so starves and dies

but then, i am a woke triggered lib snowflake
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on July 24, 2020, 12:09:46 AM
Quote from: evilcommiedictator on July 24, 2020, 12:04:08 AM
His entire house is now covered in his spunk after thinking how many people he's annoyed with that picture

That's one of the ways he reminds me of people I know. One person in particular likes to write inane 'edgy' posts, and then comments underneath 'wonder how many people I'll offend/annoy with this one'.

Invariably it is none.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Lurker on July 24, 2020, 12:34:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TPGMN8C.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 24, 2020, 01:16:30 AM
with everything that's going on, i forgot about that fucking bullshit. cheers
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on July 24, 2020, 01:21:47 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/rM38Skf/Brockman.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 24, 2020, 11:05:54 AM
Got to say I thought Fighting with my Family was pretty rubbish, Hello Ladies was more enjoyable than Gervais has ever done on his own tho tbf.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on July 24, 2020, 12:21:55 PM
at what point next week is season 3 going to be on Netflix then?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 24, 2020, 06:51:50 PM
Double post
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 24, 2020, 07:23:50 PM
Not Derke series 3, not interesteds.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 24, 2020, 08:07:20 PM
(First Draft). Yeah, Rick, as if you're going to put any more work into it than that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on July 24, 2020, 09:00:17 PM
He should be celebrating the end of the final draft, but he's so excited he can't wait the extra day.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on July 24, 2020, 09:33:50 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on July 23, 2020, 11:50:58 PM
Gervais is The Darkness of comedy. In that they were rock music for people who don't really like rock music. Or still are in a desolate fashion.
Gervais referred to The Darkness as the best band going in one of the XFM shows.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hand Solo on July 24, 2020, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: The Lurker on July 24, 2020, 12:34:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TPGMN8C.jpg)

Did nobody send that un-Godliman video to Captain D (https://www.youtube.com/c/CaptainDisillusion/) for further analysis, then?

Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 24, 2020, 08:07:20 PM
(First Draft). Yeah, Rick, as if you're going to put any more work into it than that.

Actually, he needs his top-notch Script Supervisor to look over it and give him those all-important notes before he can hand over the final draft:

(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/2fa/b6d/93cc4b84ab3e4b3387cd6656a01ab015bc-26-clippy.rsquare.w700.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: samadriel on July 25, 2020, 02:31:45 AM
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/2fa/b6d/93cc4b84ab3e4b3387cd6656a01ab015bc-26-clippy.rsquare.w700.jpg)
It looks like you're trying to write maudlin, pandering shite!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 04:31:50 AM
All this is evidence of is that he's managed to type up and print a title page for a script all by himself.

EDIT: actually he might have had help with it for all we know.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on July 25, 2020, 06:38:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/80rRNua.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 25, 2020, 10:32:35 AM
Hahaha. Took me a while to work out what youd replaced the rewards with until I zoomed in
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on July 25, 2020, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on July 25, 2020, 10:32:35 AM
Hahaha. Took me a while to work out what youd replaced the rewards with until I zoomed in
Ah yeah, did a last minute edit to put in some text- thought they might be hard recognise.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on July 25, 2020, 12:06:48 PM
Hahaha christ

Oh for fucks sake that would start a new page wouldn't it may as well just leave the forum
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hand Solo on July 25, 2020, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 04:31:50 AM
All this is evidence of is that he's managed to type up and print a title page for a script all by himself.

I imagine this is what he sent to Netflix to prove he was diligently doing his homework, a title page saying 'first draft' when he's really been drinking wine and abusing Twitter and Youtube funny animal videos all day and written nothing. What, me, Ricky Gervais - with all my awards in the background? How dare you question my ability to write or prove to you I can knock-out a half-arsed script to a deadline - look, here's the title page, with my name - Ricky Gervais - on it and everything. He knows nobody will call him on it. I bet the regular occurrence is he waits until the night before the deadline then writes the whole series in one desperate flurry like at school. If the word count is under he just appropriately fills up the quota with the word cunt.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on July 25, 2020, 01:37:13 PM
I think I might have asked this in the last thread but has he done any singing in this programme yet?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on July 25, 2020, 01:53:37 PM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on July 25, 2020, 01:37:13 PM
I think I might have asked this in the last thread but has he done any singing in this programme yet?

Only "ironically". Like the "ironic" record he put out, with the "ironic" tour with one of the Gallaghers and the "ironic" songbook with chords for people to "ironically" learn the "ironic" music.

...yeah? So... it's ironic. Deffo not serious. So if people don't like it, that's fine.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Seedsy on July 25, 2020, 02:07:24 PM
I actually seccumbed and watched afterlife series 2, genuinely appalling stuff. I'll start with this one tho, the suicide attempt. Saved by the dog, fucking  emotionally manipulative guff. I'd go as far as saying that was the most pointless fucking series ever, nothing changed whatsoever. The first series was passable I have to say, passable Hense why I only watched the second series this week, and I've been fucking shielding for 3 and a half months. First series I thought he did seem like a guy who was living his life like he actually didn't give a flying fuck. He was still a cunt tho to genuinely nice people.

This series Because he took folk out for coffee, and was morbidly depressed instead of modbidly angry.  I can't believe even Gervais, would think this is passable.
I won't even blabber on about the Paul kaye shrink. A turbo shit finchy.
The camp theatre director, just basically a shitter version of bunny from extras.
Is the scruffy inappropriate bloke actually the same scruffy inappropriate bloke from Derek. It's the same character!!
The grave scenes were frankly embarrassing.

Sorry rant over. I'm not on any social media, I've been wanting to vent since I've seen this pile of shit.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 02:20:10 PM
I like to think it's a prequel to Derek. It's the only way it works in my mind.

Angry --> Depressed --> Kind.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 25, 2020, 02:43:58 PM
Is it a good hate watch though.. or just rubbish? First series was just boring and shit and I shouldn't have bothered, would love it if he could hit the heights of Derek again.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on July 25, 2020, 04:31:37 PM
It's not really a good hate watch. Even if you really try. It's just poor quality nothing. When the twitter post was put up on here it occurred to me that there's nothing really memorable about any of it. It took me ages to remember what the ending was. There's loads you can take issue with but it's just not worth it.

Better use of your time would be for man to watch Phone Shop and get on over to that thread.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: Armin Meiwes on July 25, 2020, 02:43:58 PM
Is it a good hate watch though.. or just rubbish? First series was just boring and shit and I shouldn't have bothered, would love it if he could hit the heights of Derek again.

It's so fucking transparent and dull. And it always had Gervais explaining things - some characters are utterly pointless, seemingly only placed in to have a 'scene' in which Gervais is a cunt with them / nice with them (which shows character development). Some characters are grounded and others are cartoonish, so it doesn't work.
One of the characters is called 'The Nonce' because he once had sex with a child-sized Dwarf.

His character is supposed to be an alcoholic - so there's usually a scene in which he's drinking a bottle of red wine. Imagine that! A whole bottle. Sometimes not even a whole bottle.

Derek is better.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wwTgttb.png)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hand Solo on July 25, 2020, 05:06:48 PM
Take that Spike Milligan, having a manic-depressive breakdown while producing an entire script full of innovative concept-defining jokes, vetting it, rehearsing it and performing it to broadcast live within the week, every week. Where are your awards, twitter followers and Netflix deals? You stupid dead cunt.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on July 25, 2020, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:40:00 PMOne of the characters is called 'The Nonce' because he once had sex with a child-sized Dwarf.

Oh for fuck's sake
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on July 25, 2020, 10:39:47 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Derek is better.

Derek is magnificent. It's like a celebrity perfume if the celebrity actually made it
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: paruses on July 25, 2020, 04:31:37 PM
It's not really a good hate watch. Even if you really try. It's just poor quality nothing. When the twitter post was put up on here it occurred to me that there's nothing really memorable about any of it. It took me ages to remember what the ending was. There's loads you can take issue with but it's just not worth it.

That's kind of where I ended up on it. It wasn't as brazenly bizarre and awful as Derek, which really does reach Wiseau-esque levels of incompetency at times - it was just tedious and lazy. I couldn't even pay attention to the second series for more than a few minutes at a time, whereas I think I've watched Derek three times through out of sheer wonderment.

There was a bit of a Red Button/ARG aspect to Derek at the time as well, as the confluence between the activity of Gervais online/in the press vs. the actual quality of the show was every bit as fascinating as actually watching the thing, and it contextualised a lot of the more inane elements therein. Conversely, After Life is exactly what you'd expect it to be: just dull.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 25, 2020, 10:30:59 PM
Oh for fuck's sake

Not even kidding.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8398600/characters/nm1502204

Dwarves are funny though in Ricky's world. Because they're small.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 10:54:39 PM
Quote from: phes on July 25, 2020, 10:39:47 PM
Derek is magnificent. It's like a celebrity perfume if the celebrity actually made it

You know, I've only seen a few episodes but I've caught a lot of the magnificent CAB thread. I think I might watch a few tonight to absorb the magic. I have yet to see the grief dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 10:59:18 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 10:54:39 PM
You know, I've only seen a few episodes but I've caught a lot of the magnificent CAB thread. I think I might watch a few tonight to absorb the magic. I have yet to see the grief dog.

I'd highly recommend finding the corresponding discussion for each episode in the thread(s) as you go through it. CaB and Pilkipedia were both delightful during a Derek airing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 10:59:18 PM
I'd highly recommend finding the corresponding discussion for each episode in the thread(s) as you go through it. CaB and Pilkipedia were both delightful during a Derek airing.

I've only just discovered Pilikipedia, but what was the reaction there? Is it a fan-site? If so, I assume it was a favourable response to Derek? Contrasted with our own?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on July 25, 2020, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:01:52 PM
I've only just discovered Pilikipedia, but what was the reaction there? Is it a fan-site? If so, I assume it was a favourable response to Derek? Contrasted with our own?

Definitely not, while they did indeed start as a fan-site for Ricky, Steve and Karl, they gradually began to dislike Ricky more and more once his true arsehole personality started to come to light on Twitter, which (IIRC) was around the time that Life's Too Short came out. By the time Derek aired I'm pretty sure there was an almost universal hatred of him, and the few that did still like him soon waned when his antics on and off the show became too embarrassing.

They still seem to really like Steve and Karl, which is nice.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bronzy on July 25, 2020, 11:05:39 PM
Definitely not, while they did indeed start as a fan-site for Ricky, Steve and Karl, they gradually began to dislike Ricky more and more once his true arsehole personality started to come to light on Twitter, which (IIRC) was around the time that Life's Too Short came out. By the time Derek aired I'm pretty sure there was an almost universal hatred of him, and the few that did still like him soon waned when his antics on and off the show became too embarrassing.

They still seem to really like Steve and Karl, which is nice.

Brilliant. I'll get stuck in soon.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on July 25, 2020, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:17:48 PM
Brilliant. I'll get stuck in soon.

The best part in the Pilkipedia thread is the initial belief amongst many that it would be far better than LTS, and then the gradual realisation setting it when it first airs.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 11:37:00 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:01:52 PM
I've only just discovered Pilikipedia, but what was the reaction there? Is it a fan-site? If so, I assume it was a favourable response to Derek? Contrasted with our own?

Like Bronzy said, the Pilkipedia reaction was equally vitriolic to CaB's, to the point where the two streams crossed quite often. The fact that Pilkipedia was, ostensibly, a Gervais fansite makes it all the more easy to accept that Derek was, objectively, fucking awful.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Gulftastic on July 29, 2020, 09:43:32 AM
No emmy noms. I bet he's already bitching on Twitter and pretending not to care.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 29, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
Haha just had a look and yep! Although it's ok because he did get nominated for one for his golden globes thing so he's not too angry. Don't follow him on Twitter so hardly ever see his tweets but is he legal obliged to say "best fans in the world" at least once a day. EVERY time I've ever clicked on him he's said it within the last 3 or 4 tweets.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 29, 2020, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wwTgttb.png)
looks like hes been decapitated
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on July 29, 2020, 12:27:36 PM
Guillotined and yet he writes on. It'd explain his 2010s output.

Severed heads, right. Blinking for hours after the fact yeah? Impressive on paper, sure, but how many Golden Globes have they won? *tries to look at camera but eyes plop out*
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on July 29, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
After Life received no Emmy nominations this year, but don't worry, Are Ricky's not bitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1288156812416557059
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on July 29, 2020, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on July 29, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
After Life received no Emmy nominations this year, but don't worry, Are Ricky's not bitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1288156812416557059

Boomers are obsessed with pedophiles.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 29, 2020, 01:45:47 PM
I dont understand how he has 14m followers when all he does is retweet cloying praise of his own shows. I supose he could have 28m if he wasnt so annoying
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on July 29, 2020, 01:52:42 PM
Well, Graham Linehan had 600k which has translated into almost 3k youtube subscribers.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 29, 2020, 01:59:04 PM
Apparently I'm blocked by @rickygervais on Twitter? I will no longer get to enjoy the once-every-year viewing of his delightful "jokes" about how good he is.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: SavageHedgehog on July 29, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
Wait, Awards Shows get awarded at other Awards Shows?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on July 29, 2020, 03:56:32 PM
Quote from: SavageHedgehog on July 29, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
Wait, Awards Shows get awarded at other Awards Shows?

There are categories for Variety Shows, which the Golden Globes fall under. These also include charity events and anything or live sketch comedy varieties.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 29, 2020, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on July 29, 2020, 03:56:32 PM
There are categories for Variety Shows, which the Golden Globes fall under. These also include charity events and anything or live sketch comedy varieties.
I was wondering why they don't just give the best awards show Emmy to last year's Emmys, every year.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on July 29, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
"I'm genuinely a bit scared that Ricky could be "suicided", if he keeps speaking the truth"

Absolute shit. His "truth-speaking" is empty, performative guff, half-heartedly repeating things braver people than him have pushed, not because he cares but just because he wants to be seen as an edgy outsider.

God I hope the guy they keep inviting back to host the Golden Globes doesn't get suicided for his dangerous opinions!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on July 29, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
First they murder the opinion, then they murder the man
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 29, 2020, 06:29:34 PM
Then they kill his dog >:(
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 29, 2020, 07:44:53 PM
I follow the r/conspiracy subreddit (guilty pleasure) and they were all going on about how Gervais was something of a whistleblower who was going to be bodied as well - for making jokes that any twat in a pub who reads the Daily Mail would be able to make.

If only they knew how Derek was more bizarre than any theory they might concoct - and that actually happened!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on July 29, 2020, 07:55:46 PM
Derek would actually make more sense if it turned out to be a way to send coded messages about the actions of the New World Order
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on July 29, 2020, 08:47:28 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 29, 2020, 07:55:46 PM
Derek would actually make more sense if it turned out to be a way to send coded messages about the actions of the New World Order

I pity the NWO for having to sit through the whole thing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Annie Labuntur on August 13, 2020, 11:52:54 PM
I've just read an article from a few days ago where Ricky says that the dog Brandy (real name Anti) is likely to retire when Series 3 ends.
Quote from: Ricky GeniusBoth seasons when I was saying goodbye to the crew, when I have to say bye to Anti, that's when I well up because I'm thinking, 'She doesn't know why she's not going to see me for a year'.
Such a strange way to put it, and I don't think he was joking.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on August 14, 2020, 12:07:14 AM
Quote from: Annie Labuntur on August 13, 2020, 11:52:54 PM
I've just read an article from a few days ago where Ricky says that the dog Brandy (real name Anti) is likely to retire when Series 3 ends.Such a strange way to put it, and I don't think he was joking.

So we'll start to see Ricky's character watching endless clips of his dog on his ipad.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Annie Labuntur on August 14, 2020, 12:12:58 AM
He promises in the interview that
Spoiler alert
the dog won't die in series 3
[close]
.

Nothing wrong with him getting upset at the prospect of not seeing the dog for a year - it's that he thinks the dog is confused and upset at the thought of not seeing him for a year. I dunno, maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on August 14, 2020, 03:10:06 PM
That the dog is capable of understanding that it won't see someone for a year. Or what a year is.

Does he really think that or is it just some words that he thinks makes him sound good?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on August 14, 2020, 03:13:40 PM
The dog is going to get suicided by Golden Globes.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mjwilson on August 15, 2020, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: Annie Labuntur on August 14, 2020, 12:12:58 AM
He promises in the interview that
Spoiler alert
the dog won't die in series 3
[close]
.

Nothing wrong with him getting upset at the prospect of not seeing the dog for a year - it's that he thinks the dog is confused and upset at the thought of not seeing him for a year. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I'm with you, it seems narcissistic even for Gervais.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on August 15, 2020, 01:18:59 PM
It's probably thinking "I hope that fat cunt Tony's finally done himself in".
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Post by: Rolf Lundgren on August 15, 2020, 06:53:34 PM
If he's that upset, he can go and visit it. I mean, it's a dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 15, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
But that would ruin his heartwarming story about how much the dog must miss him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on August 15, 2020, 07:04:38 PM
Dog (VO): "This cunt again."
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Post by: Blue Jam on August 15, 2020, 07:28:23 PM
Another whine, but the doggy sound design in this really pisses me off. A dog whine dubbed on whenever Tony is feeling sad. Dogs don't whine that predictably, they're more likely to whine when they're bored, or they're nervous, or when you haven't given them any attention for five whole minutes. When a dog senses a human is feeling sad they'll just nuzzle you or sit on your feet and look after you a bit.

I love dogs. Ricky, stop getting dogs wrong.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 15, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
Ricky presumably knows that, but he doesn't give a shit about verisimilitude. Were such a thing possible, he'd teach the dog to cry on cue.

I've actually got a lot of respect, bordering on envy, for that dog. He neither knows nor cares that he's in a terrible TV show; as far as he's concerned, all he has to do for a few weeks each year is turn up and mooch about with some bloke for a bit. He'll be treated well and his owners will be handsomely rewarded, thus allowing them to buy him lots of nice food and toys.

He's emerged from the whole ordeal with his dignity and wellbeing intact. Good for him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on August 15, 2020, 09:58:28 PM
Quote from: Rolf Lundgren on August 15, 2020, 06:53:34 PM
If he's that upset, he can go and visit it. I mean, it's a dog.

Perhaps the owner won't let him visit because they don't want their dog being locked in a wardrobe or wrapped up with duck tape.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on August 15, 2020, 10:03:47 PM
Dogs also have highly sensitive hearing, which makes the Rickster's laugh a canine war crime.
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Post by: Hand Solo on August 15, 2020, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 15, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
Ricky presumably knows that, but he doesn't give a shit about verisimilitude. Were such a thing possible, he'd teach the dog to cry on cue.

I doubt it, the chubby funster has only ever had cats, hasn't he? He or Jane obviously don't really like dogs.

I think he only put a dog in because he knows cats wouldn't give a fuck if he was suicidal, and wouldn't simper to him on cue.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: toetoe on September 10, 2020, 12:24:43 PM
QuoteAnswering questions submitted by his followers, and covering topics ranging from hypnosis to television guest appearances, Gervais also revealed that he would be most inclined to revive Derek for a further special, out of all his previous TV series.

The comedy drama, originally broadcast by Channel 4, followed the staff and residents(?) of an old-age care home, focusing on "tender, innocent" care worker Derek Noakes.

He questioned the relevance of a further The Office revival in a post-lockdown, working-from-home world, and dismissed the notion of revisiting "a 60-year-old Andy Millman" from Extras, but explained: "Derek, I could see. I won't do any of them(Ed:Lies, did the Office, but that didn't work), but if I had to choose - if someone put a gun to my head and said 'You've got to do another special' - it would be Derek. Because it's a contained world, it's really sweet, it's ongoing, things don't change and I think I miss him as a character most. So Derek."

https://www.comedy.co.uk/online/news/5931/more-ricky-gervais-shows-on-netflix/
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 10, 2020, 12:32:37 PM
"Things don't change" in the world of Derek.

No shit, it's a cartoon.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: There Be Rumblings on September 10, 2020, 01:43:48 PM
Yes, it's lucky that nothing of note has happened to affect any care homes in, say, the last six months. Just business as usual in their 'contained world'.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on September 10, 2020, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: There Be Rumblings on September 10, 2020, 01:43:48 PM
Yes, it's lucky that nothing of note has happened to affect any care homes in, say, the last six months. Just business as usual in their 'contained world'.

Are you saying that Ricky Gervais, the only celebrity who "tells-it-like-it-is," the Hollywood soothsayer, the only celebrity who hates celebrity lifestyle (despite him talking about/and posing in front of his awards would suggest) is out of touch?
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Post by: Cursus on September 10, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
Quoteit's really sweet, ... and I think I miss him as a character most.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/ad/0e/66ad0ea677d3b650a7725e447e1f3840.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: There Be Rumblings on September 10, 2020, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on September 10, 2020, 03:21:36 PM
Are you saying that Ricky Gervais, the only celebrity who "tells-it-like-it-is," the Hollywood soothsayer, the only celebrity who hates celebrity lifestyle (despite him talking about/and posing in front of his awards would suggest) is out of touch?

The irony is that in a world of Covid there is actually a potentially powerful emotional angle there for the character that he has created. A simple, sweet man with an innocent worldview/ learning difficulties, whose closest friends are all elderly and in care, coming to terms with the way this quiet world has suddenly been turned upside-down, trying in vain to protect his friends while having to deal with a heightened sense of fear, helplessness, loss... in the right hands that could be genuinely involving.

But he won't do that, because it would involve a) awareness, b) effort and c) being able to write.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on September 10, 2020, 04:32:43 PM
It would also have the character Derek in it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chveik on September 10, 2020, 05:04:10 PM
I really hope he does a special though.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on September 10, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
Kev tells Derek that the only way to cure COVID is to cough in the faces of the residents. Hannah watches on with a wry grin as he bends over and hacks germs onto the face of a nameless elderly woman, who chuckles and thanks him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on September 10, 2020, 07:15:19 PM
Oh fuck please let there be a Derek COVID-19 Special. C'mon Ricky don't be lazy it writes itself.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on September 10, 2020, 07:22:27 PM
Kev switches all the hand sanitiser for vodka and then pranks Derek by telling him you can become immune to COVID-19 if you drink a whole bottle. Much laughter abounds as a fucked-off-his-face Derek stumbles into the caravan at the end of the night and throws up all over Kev's fat girlfriend's big fat gross fat vagina!!!! Urgh god she's so fat it's horrible, I'd be sick as well!!!! Kindness is magic
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on September 11, 2020, 12:14:50 AM
It is revealed in the last 15 minutes of the special that Kev had a talent for building ventilators out of old dildos and butt plugs that he finds in skips. Derek's most favouriteist old person is saved by the marital aid powered miracle. Something about a covid grief dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 11, 2020, 01:47:16 AM
Derek sobs in an empty care home for 45 minutes. Go on, Gervais. Have the balls.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dog Botherer on September 11, 2020, 01:47:28 AM
merchant navy's boat gets riddled with covid, DIED
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on September 11, 2020, 02:01:24 AM
Quote from: Dog Botherer on September 11, 2020, 01:47:28 AM
merchant navy's boat gets riddled with covid, DIED

Think he's a bit too savvy to get involved mate
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 11, 2020, 11:17:51 AM
Why isn't Ricky doing COVID informational films. Derek showing the correct way to interact with relatives through glass windows, that kind of thing? Surely Ricky would be self-important enough to do it if he was asked. Or is he too busy writing?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 11, 2020, 12:14:55 PM
COVID was invented by his bezzie mate Science, so he's secretly fucking loving its rampage across the planet.
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Post by: Dog Botherer on September 11, 2020, 01:44:50 PM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on September 11, 2020, 02:01:24 AM
Think he's a bit too savvy to get involved mate

turns out i didn't actually know what the merchant navy was
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: notjosh on October 01, 2020, 02:10:01 PM
Unprecedented, surely.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjEDRTuXkAYo2IU.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on October 01, 2020, 02:14:36 PM
Ricky is a living life lesson.

You can all the money, all the fame, all the awards, all the sycophants, but it won't make you happy deep down.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on October 01, 2020, 10:57:22 PM
When's this out then?

Given the current situation in itching for another instructional guide from a clueless millionaire bellend about how to feel about learning disabilities or breast cancer
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 22, 2020, 03:49:05 PM
He re-tweeted this from the After Life fans account for some reason. I can't tell if he's being ironic, or trolling, or mad.

(https://i.imgur.com/CGFLntf.png)

https://twitter.com/AfterLife_Fans/status/1339660536947064832

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on December 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
"The most watched British sitcom in the world"?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on December 22, 2020, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on December 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
"The most watched British sitcom in the world"?
Again!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 23, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on December 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
"The most watched British sitcom in the world"?

People conveniently forget that loads of shit things are popular when it suits them
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on December 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Bracing myself for another round of colleagues in my new workplace (social care) loving this. I really like my little team and have no interest in being that guy who shits on something they enjoy. Best case scenario is that it's... good (haha) or that someone hates it and I can have secret slagging seshes. Really hope it's topical and that we get three hours of Tony in lockdown taking to himself and bullying people on houseparty
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 23, 2020, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: phes on December 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Bracing myself for another round of colleagues in my new workplace (social care) loving this. I really like my little team and have no interest in being that guy who shits on something they enjoy. Best case scenario is that it's... good (haha) or that someone hates it and I can have secret slagging seshes. Really hope it's topical and that we get three hours of Tony in lockdown taking to himself and bullying people on houseparty

Did Gervais have any particular stance on Covid? I am only really aware of him these days from mentions on here and if he pops up on something like The One Show and it's on The The One Show Show podcast.

I really hope he had some denier/herd immunity/ so what if people die thing going on because it could be Derek levels of Gold in its execution. Sadly, I think this will just be as dull and self-satisfying as the other attempts.

I forget this even exists; I never forget Derek exists. Please do more like Derek.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on December 23, 2020, 10:43:08 AM
Not sure really, his Twitter stopped being entertaining/fascinating long ago when it properly became marketing. At some point Gervais went so far up his own arse and got so far out of step with the outside world that he ceased to be fascinatingly awful and became boring and irrellevent. Very, very brief toe-dipping into gender stuff around the time that glinner got shitcanned, and his relative quietness on other current stuff suggests to me he's taken advice and probably not going anywhere that could get him cancelled while the money is pouring in.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Utter Shit on December 23, 2020, 10:53:35 AM
Never watched this beyond the first episode as it seemed quite shit, but the outtakes are brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgkafpLSB4k
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ArtParrott on December 23, 2020, 11:24:25 AM
KRIBZ 45
7 months ago
Funniest outtakes ever, definitely up there with the Derek outtakes 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on December 23, 2020, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: phes on December 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Bracing myself for another round of colleagues in my new workplace (social care) loving this. I really like my little team and have no interest in being that guy who shits on something they enjoy.

If the programme's taught us anything, you being the work misery guts will inexplicably result in them saying you're the nicest guy in the world etc. Fill your boots!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on December 23, 2020, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: paruses on December 23, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
People conveniently forget that loads of shit things are popular when it suits them

How do you measure that, though?

Has Afterlife been seen more  (worldwide) than Monty Python, Fawlty Towers? The original Office, even?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 23, 2020, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: ArtParrott on December 23, 2020, 11:24:25 AM
KRIBZ 45
7 months ago
Funniest outtakes ever, definitely up there with the Derek outtakes 🤣🤣🤣
Absolute desolation.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 23, 2020, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on December 23, 2020, 02:02:36 PM
How do you measure that, though?

Has Afterlife been seen more  (worldwide) than Monty Python, Fawlty Towers? The original Office, even?

You might be replying to the "most watched in the world" thing rather than my comment - I was just being flippant for the sake of it to say popular doesn't mean good. Green Door was the biggest selling single of 1981, I think. I like This Old House though.

I agree completely though - it's meaningless. It's something to parrot, I suppose. Is often more persuasive than an argument about merits.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: petril on December 23, 2020, 04:18:28 PM
if we're arguing about most watched in the world, then he's never going to beat Carole Hersee and Bubbles, is he?

ul Ricky, still losing hard
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Presumably it's "most watched in the world" not of all time, but just in the particular period when a lot of people were watching it. Most watched of that year, perhaps. (Or maybe even just most watched on Netflix.)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on December 23, 2020, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Presumably it's "most watched in the world" not of all time, but just in the particular period when a lot of people were watching it. Most watched of that year, perhaps. (Or maybe even just most watched on Netflix.)

Even then, it's hard to believe. Must be some pretty creative interpretation of figures going on there.. Perhaps it was the most-watched British sitcom in the world on the day it was released? Nah, even that's hard to believe.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 08:20:28 PM
The source seems to be a twitter fan account called @gervaistrivia which posted that series 1 was the most watched British-made comedy of 2019 (in August 2019). It also posted that Humanity was the most watched stand-up special of 2018, which I find even more difficult to believe (unless they're counting people who, like me, watched the first 10 minutes, thought "fuck this, it's shit," and turned it off).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: all male israel on December 27, 2020, 11:49:16 PM
Quote from: paruses on December 23, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
People conveniently forget that loads of shit things are popular when it suits them
he's the kind of cunt who'd roll out "argumentum ad populum" in an argument about god or something, definitely done it before
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 12:41:06 PM
Replying to criticism with "My bank manager disagrees!" or whatever seems so curiously old-fashioned. Who actually talks to their bank managers these days? It sounds like something a Monty Python or Dad's Army character might say. Also his constant retweeting of @gervaistrivia is fucking weird.

Anyway, I rewatched David Brent: Life On The Road the other day. I always considered that film a bit of a guilty pleasure but now have to admit that it's better than that, I was reminded that it's actually pretty good and I enjoy it in a completely non-ironic way. The David Brent of that film is self-aware and vulnerable and a bit pathetic and you do feel a bit sorry for him. He's a world away from Tony Johnson, the smartarse know-it-all of After Life.

I was also interested to note that it features Nina Sosanya (SugaRape's receptionist in Nathan Barley) in a realistic portrayal of a mental health professional, and that her character is a million miles away from the sleazy and rapey caricature of an unethical therapist played by Paul Kaye in After Life.

I'm struggling to believe it was made in 2016. The gulf in quality between DB:LOTR and After Life is immense. How has Gervais fallen that far that fast?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on December 28, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
Did you also like the way his band mates, who clearly don't like him in the slightest and regard him as an embarrassment all decide what a great bunch of lads he is at the end of the film  FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 12:56:02 PM
I like the way the studio engineer decides he's been a bit harsh on Brent and starts to feel a bit sorry for him. You're right, it's not a great film by any means, it's not a patch on The Office, but I find it a lot more enjoyable that After Life, which is really just lazily-written and a waste of a good cast and just a bit dull. Seeing it was made in 2016 made me wonder if he does still have a decent sitcom in him, and if we'd get to see it if he wasn't surrounded by sycophants and people too scared to give him some constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on December 28, 2020, 01:16:00 PM
Could be something to do with the fact that the foundations of the character were already in place, whereas Gervais coming up with his own from scratch leads us to Derek.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 28, 2020, 01:36:39 PM
Rewatched an episode of Derek the other day. The one where his dog dies. Fuck me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on December 28, 2020, 01:16:00 PM
Could be something to do with the fact that the foundations of the character were already in place, whereas Gervais coming up with his own from scratch leads us to Derek.

I was going to say "Yes, plus the fact that he had a co-writer" but it looks like the David Brent film was a solo effort. I think you're right then, he was building on a character that was originally a joint effort and already fully realised.

After Life is jarringly unrealistic at times and Derek is just plain bizarre. Yep, I think you've hit the nail on the head here, it may be that David Brent works because Gervais had Stephen Merchant to reign him in and he then realised he had a winning formula and shouldn't stray too far from it.

It could also be that, even though Gervais is more than a little Brent-like, playing him might feel more like playing a fictional character than playing Tony from After Life, who is essentially Gervais's Twitter persona. I wonder if he's even acting when he's playing Tony. Not only does the character of Tony Johnson look and sound like The Actor Ricky Gervais, he holds all the same beliefs and opinions and even dresses like him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mr. logic on December 28, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
I honestly thought the Brent film was shockingly awful. After Life was possibly better, maybe.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 28, 2020, 02:01:54 PM
I think Gervais should do a new series of Derek where the title character undergoes some procedure that makes him intelligent. 
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 28, 2020, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: mr. logic on December 28, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
I honestly thought the Brent film was shockingly awful. After Life was possibly better, maybe.
I thought it was largely boring, and then turned shit with the thoroughly unearned 'emotional' ending.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bernice on December 28, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on December 28, 2020, 02:01:54 PM
I think Gervais should do a new series of Derek where the title character undergoes some procedure that makes him intelligent.

flowres for derke
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: Bernice on December 28, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
flowres for derke

It's Always Sunny got there first.

Would love to see a Derke Xmas special where Derke prays to God to make him clever then he discovers cures for dementia, alcoholism and being a pervert and helps out all his friends. And then Clever Derke realises there is no God and it was all a dream and he's back where he belongs, with his friends, just the way they were. Kindness is magic.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 03:32:33 PM
Gervais doing sci-fi would be the worst thing ever wouldn't it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 28, 2020, 03:38:50 PM
Quote from: Bernice on December 28, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
flowres for derke

Actually an Alger-non-starter.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Junket Pumper on December 28, 2020, 10:45:22 PM
I can't stand Gervais or his stand-up so I  haven't seen the routine referenced, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was lazy and transphobic, but is Frankie 'why do people with Downs Syndrome all dress the same' Boyle really in a position to attack other comedians for lazy bigotry?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqVkoQeW4AEKd8b?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 28, 2020, 10:48:01 PM
Has Boyle ever apologised for his bit about Harvey Price wanting to rape his mother?

That's a genuine question.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 28, 2020, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: Junket Pumper on December 28, 2020, 10:45:22 PM
I can't stand Gervais or his stand-up so I  haven't seen the routine referenced, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was lazy and transphobic, but is Frankie 'why do people with Downs Syndrome all dress the same' Boyle really in a position to attack other comedians for lazy bigotry?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqVkoQeW4AEKd8b?format=jpg&name=small)

Which Sun-columnist Boyle defended by saying he wrote the joke with a friend who has brittle bone disease - yes, really.

Let's not forget 'Why are they called Sunshine Variety coaches when all the kids on them look the fucking same?'  That one was Jimmy Carr, the tax-shy automaton who socialises with Princess Beatrice and went on holiday with her to the Caribbean.

Too many left-wing comedians, yeah.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: Junket Pumper on December 28, 2020, 10:45:22 PM
I can't stand Gervais or his stand-up so I  haven't seen the routine referenced, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was lazy and transphobic, but is Frankie 'why do people with Downs Syndrome all dress the same' Boyle really in a position to attack other comedians for lazy bigotry?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqVkoQeW4AEKd8b?format=jpg&name=small)

Yes, I can't see how Boyle could possibly justify this if it was put to him. You either accept - as Gervais does and as I thought Boyle did - that you can make jokes about EVERYTHING or you don't. You can't pick and choose, and you certainly can't start moralising about other comedians' decisions. Apparently this was on Louis Theroux's podcast. I wonder if Louis put this obvious point to him. It's disappointing because I fund Frankie Boyle funny. I'd find him less funny if there was some sort of dreary moralising hypocrite under the surface.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: madhair60 on December 29, 2020, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:26:20 AM
You either accept - as Gervais does and as I thought Boyle did - that you can make jokes about EVERYTHING or you don't.

Eh? Hang on, eh, mate? Hang on. Making jokes about some things, but not others - there's a massive spectrum there. For example, you can make jokes about say, nine things, but say there's a couple of things that are just a bit hmm, dunno. Or what if the jokes are bad, like all of Ricky's? What then?

Slippery slope, this making jokes about everything lark. Should we all not just agree that you probably shouldn't make jokes about everything? That seems the most reasonable way forward.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on December 29, 2020, 12:32:23 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:26:20 AM
Yes, I can't see how Boyle could possibly justify this if it was put to him. You either accept - as Gervais does and as I thought Boyle did - that you can make jokes about EVERYTHING or you don't. You can't pick and choose, and you certainly can't start moralising about other comedians' decisions. Apparently this was on Louis Theroux's podcast. I wonder if Louis put this obvious point to him. It's disappointing because I fund Frankie Boyle funny. I'd find him less funny if there was some sort of dreary moralising hypocrite under the surface.

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:46:29 AM
Quote from: madhair60 on December 29, 2020, 12:30:24 AM
Eh? Hang on, eh, mate? Hang on. Making jokes about some things, but not others - there's a massive spectrum there. For example, you can make jokes about say, nine things, but say there's a couple of things that are just a bit hmm, dunno. Or what if the jokes are bad, like all of Ricky's? What then?

Slippery slope, this making jokes about everything lark. Should we all not just agree that you probably shouldn't make jokes about everything? That seems the most reasonable way forward.

You make good points. I withdraw.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:52:34 AM
Quote from: Bronzy on December 29, 2020, 12:32:23 AM
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Bringo!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on December 29, 2020, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on December 28, 2020, 11:36:33 PM
Which Sun-columnist Boyle defended by saying he wrote the joke with a friend who has brittle bone disease - yes, really.

Let's not forget 'Why are they called Sunshine Variety coaches when all the kids on them look the fucking same?'  That one was Jimmy Carr, the tax-shy automaton who socialises with Princess Beatrice and went on holiday with her to the Caribbean.

Too many left-wing comedians, yeah.

A few years ago a member of my family actually apologised to me for having a Jimmy Carr DVD in their house. But why should I give a toss? I'm not offended. The only thing that bugs me are that most disability/ginger hair/Scotland 'jokes' that people make are absolutely fucking shit. And I've put the word jokes in inverted commas because they usually are just insults. That's all. No punchline, nothing unexpected. Just insults.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on December 29, 2020, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship

twonks n gorps innit. it's exactly what he did, hard, for about a decade. just don't even go there
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on December 29, 2020, 11:35:00 AM
5 minutes on James Dreyfus's Twitter is a headspin. Seems to be on it a lot.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neardark on December 29, 2020, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on December 29, 2020, 11:35:00 AM
5 minutes on James Dreyfus's Twitter is a headspin. Seems to be on it a lot.

And the first words on his Twitter bio are "No cultism." You couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 01:11:26 PM
Boyle is in absolutely no position to criticise Gervais for using oppressed minorities as struts for cruel one-liners. Both have form in spinning lofty justifications for these sorts of jokes offstage, whilst conveniently ignoring the possibility that, more often than not, they aren't stirring their audience into social-satirical insight, but are simply gratifying a repressed desire to bully. And that's making what I consider to be a generous assumption that they don't just concoct these liner notes after the fact.1. That said, on the specific issue of transphobia, Gervais's offstage justification - that there's a coterie of predatory men using acceptance of trans people as a means of accessing women-only spaces - is itself a transphobic talking point. So on this specific issue, I think Boyle doesn't come across as a total hypocrite.

1I find it very hard to believe, for example, that Boyle's infamous Harvey Price joke was based, per the claim he gave in a broadsheet interview, on a righteous distaste for her using her son as part of her media brand, a state of affairs that strikes me as 1) inevident 2) not worth commenting on even if true and 3) not captured in the joke, subtext or otherwise.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phil_A on December 29, 2020, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship

Yes, it's utterly bizarre and it's been going on for years. Criticise any aspect of Gervais almost anywhere with an open comments section and an army of defensive fanboys will materialise from nowhere and immediately pile on to defend their God King, guaranteed.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kankurette on December 29, 2020, 01:50:35 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 01:11:26 PM
Boyle is in absolutely no position to criticise Gervais for using oppressed minorities as struts for cruel one-liners. Both have form in spinning lofty justifications for these sorts of jokes offstage, whilst conveniently ignoring the possibility that, more often than not, they aren't stirring their audience into social-satirical insight, but are simply gratifying a repressed desire to bully. And that's making what I consider to be a generous assumption that they don't just concoct these liner notes after the fact.1. That said, on the specific issue of transphobia, Gervais's offstage justification - that there's a coterie of predatory men using acceptance of trans people as a means of accessing women-only spaces - is itself a transphobic talking point. So on this specific issue, I think Boyle doesn't come across as a total hypocrite.

1I find it very hard to believe, for example, that Boyle's infamous Harvey Price joke was based, per the claim he gave in a broadsheet interview, on a righteous distaste for her using her son as part of her media brand, a state of affairs that strikes me as 1) inevident 2) not worth commenting on even if true and 3) not captured in the joke, subtext or otherwise.
Yeah, Gervais is a douchebag and he does have a lazy sense of humour, but Boyle isn't exactly great either.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Jockice on December 29, 2020, 09:19:59 AMThe only thing that bugs me are that most disability/ginger hair/Scotland 'jokes' that people make are absolutely fucking shit. And I've put the word jokes in inverted commas because they usually are just insults. That's all. No punchline, nothing unexpected. Just insults.

Ditto for all the Welsh "jokes" I've heard. Growing up on farms, having no electricity or running water, shagging sheep etc. They're not actually jokes, just lazy and insulting stereotypes.

Incidentally I watched the Christmas episode of House Of Fools on Christmas Day, the one with Reece Sheersmith as the racist Santa who chooses presents according to national stereotypes- ie, bringing pistols, ponchos and sombreros to children in Mexico. I thought that worked, a load of lazy stereotypes that made the racist the butt of the joke. Come to think of it it's like that famous scene in Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brNiTo_TbeQ) where Terry comes out with an insulting stereotype for every nation and can only think of "pornographic" for Denmark. Of course Bob is calling him out on it and the joke's on Terry because he's making himself look ignorant (and a bit of a perv).

I guess national stereotypes can work in jokes when the humour is punching up at the person making them, then.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
I remember when The Beastie Boys were on the same bill as The Prodigy at a festival and requested that they didn't play Smack My Bitch Up because it was offensive to women. The Prodigy told them to fuck off, and a number of journalists opined that it was a bit rich of them to accuse anyone of sexism when they used to write misogynistic lyrics and say misogynistic things in interviews and have go-go dancers on stage. Their response to that was essentially "But we were young then". Of course they were then called out for not giving The Prodge the benefit of the doubt Re: age.

Is Boyle really a hypocrite? Is it not possible for a person to make mistakes and reflect on them and grow up anymore?

Mind you if the older, wiser, woker Frankie Boyle is still writing for The S*n he can fuck right off.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Junket Pumper on December 29, 2020, 02:33:09 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
I remember when The Beastie Boys were on the same bill as The Prodigy at a festival and requested that they didn't play Smack My Bitch Up because it was offensive to women. The Prodigy told them to fuck off, and a number of journalists opined that it was a bit rich of them to accuse anyone of sexism when they used to write misogynistic lyrics and say misogynistic things in interviews and have go-go dancers on stage. Their response to that was essentially "But we were young then". Of course they were then called out for not giving The Prodge the benefit of the doubt Re: age.

Is Boyle really a hypocrite? Is it not possible for a person to make mistakes and reflect on them and grow up anymore?

Mind you if the older, wiser, woker Frankie Boyle is still writing for The S*n he can fuck right off.

It is possible for someone to grow and change but has Boyle openly reflected and spoke about this? He's never said sorry for any of his more offensive material, so I don't believe he's gone on the journey you're claiming.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:17:01 PMIs it not possible for a person to make mistakes and reflect on them and grow up anymore?
Absolutely, but Boyle says in the same session with Theroux that he doesn't regret any of his jokes beyond the finer points of delivery. If he did a Sarah Silverman and said "the jokes I told were bad and the justifications I came up with to protect my progressive credentials were, in retrospect, defensively contrived" then accusations of hypocrisy would be weak. But he doesn't do that, and repeats the the same sentiment he's been spouting for years, namely that it's intellectually dishonest to isolate a gag from a stand-up routine and interrogate it outside of that context. And yet that's exactly what he does with Gervais's Caitlyn Jenner bit. The fact that his assessment of Gervais's transphobia is on the money doesn't change that this is "do as I say, not as I do".
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on December 29, 2020, 02:42:28 PM
" Tramadol Nights" was 10 years ago, but  the Sadowitz- snaffling nauseating aftertaste of that abomination of a show, with its up to date , cutting edge " What If Yer Man From " Knight Rider" was actually just some mentally ill feller? " references still remain. The stuff he writes for " The Guardian" can occasionally be amusing, but all too often comes across as try- too-hard Ersatz Brookerese.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
I was asking rhetorical questions there, not making excuses for him, just to be clear.

I think there are genuine cases where someone has done offensive things when they were young and stupid and later shown genuine remorse and regret, and I'm not a big fan of people dredging up old tweets a person sent when they were 12 (for example) or looking for any excuse to accuse someone of hypocrisy. I'm not sure about Boyle though- I think he may have apologised for the Rebecca Adlington joke but that's it. I do enjoy a lot of his work but I'm no apologist for his earlier stuff.

Also I did find it very funny when he tried to call out Andrew Lawrence on Twitter during that time he went a bit UKIP, and Lawrence just replied with a mention of the Rebecca Adlington joke and Boyle had no comeback. Lawrence totally owned him there, I had to admit.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: pigamus on December 29, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: Junket Pumper on December 29, 2020, 02:33:09 PM
It is possible for someone to grow and change but has Boyle openly reflected and spoke about this? He's never said sorry for any of his more offensive material, so I don't believe he's gone on the journey you're claiming.

It always seemed to me a bit "I'm sorry if you feel you were upset"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on December 29, 2020, 02:51:44 PM
If the lad himself is reading this, I'd be happy to propose a toast to him at this time of goodwill to all men, by raising a glass of fine, Malt Whiskey, or can of Special Brew or worrever to his good self, with a festive " Cheers"!

Go on, Frankie, have a drink- it's Christmas!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: pigamus on December 29, 2020, 02:53:42 PM
I don't agree about his Guardian articles though. I thought they were superb.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
This one:

https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/527110826868875264

Looks like Boyle deleted the original tweet. Still no comeback.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
Just because someone is a hypocrite does not mean they are wrong. It would be good for Boyle to have a Damascene conversion about taking the piss out of handicapped kids; for instance Matt Lucas has distanced himself from the punching down he used to do. However, Boyle does not seem to make edgelordy jokes any more and hasn't for years. It might be hard for some people to distance themselves from the dumb things they said 15 years ago, they might not want to seem weak.

James Dreyfus is merely a hardcore transphobe, hence his adamant support of fellow traveller Gervais. Who similarly made jokes about handicapped kids and is surely just as bad as Boyle ever was in this regard. James Dreyfus also called child-rape funder Chris Langham a genius (https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/481589668744798208).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Junket Pumper on December 29, 2020, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
This one:

https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/527110826868875264

Looks like Boyle deleted the original tweet. Still no comeback.

Twitter says Boyle has 607 tweets, which means he's used a a tweet deleter that gets rid of everything at once, so it's not like he's deleted those tweets manually. I wonder if he's worried some of his dodgier tweets will be brought up to use against him
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 03:05:50 PM
Bit like Katie Hopkins deleting all her old tweets before Twitter saved her the bother of deleting the newer ones, then...

Quote from: pigamus on December 29, 2020, 02:53:42 PM
I don't agree about his Guardian articles though. I thought they were superb.

Yes, they're great. His autobiography, My Shit Life So Far is also good, though I got it as a Kindle edition bundled with another of his books and couldn't get into that one. I think it was Scotland's Jesus, great title but the content was a bit ranty, a tad Clarkson.

Also that BBC tour of Scotland series he did this year was good. I like some bits of his stand-up while disliking other bits of his stand-up.

I guess I'm saying I can still separate the art from the artist in his case. He's not quite up there with Kevin Spacey or Glinner.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 03:19:01 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
Just because someone is a hypocrite does not mean they are wrong.
This is true, but it's also the case that progressive messages are more compelling when espoused by people who lead by example. On this issue specifically, Boyle making an exception to his "context is everything in standup" principle to criticise Gervais's transphobic jokes is currently being used as evidence for the perverse claim that trans people, and trans women especially, get special treatment. As call-outs go, I'd rather Boyle had kept his trap shut on this one.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on December 29, 2020, 04:22:01 PM
The Gervais defenders on Twitter seem to be taking two lines of defence, namely that A: Gervais is lovely and compassionate unlike the hateful Boyle, and his jokes are all in support of kindness and empathy, but also B: Gervais is a no-shits-given offensive comic, unlike the cowardly woke Boyle, and he doesn't give a fuck whose feelings he hurts, because he's brilliant and edgy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Zetetic on December 29, 2020, 04:34:54 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
James Dreyfus also called child-rape funder Chris Langham a genius (https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/481589668744798208).
For context, "a genius performer" rather than as a comment on paying for child abuse imagery.

Posh Nosh was a massive source of comfort at one point in my life and for various reasons I have some affection for Black Pond, yet at the same time I'm not in favour of supporting the abuse of children.

There's enough to tackle these people on without trying to find something in every utterance - perhaps particularly when the contents of those utterance is largely harmless and yet their performance is intended to outrage or upset, since that's clearly a deliberate trap to 1) garner engagement and 2) portray opposition to their actually hateful nonsense as deranged.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sonny_Jim on December 29, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
Boyle is a hypocrite.

Gervais made a very lazy attack helicopter joke in 2018.

Both of these can be true at the same time and simply repeating 'yer, but what about....' isn't the rock solid defense of Gervais his fans think it is.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on December 29, 2020, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
I remember when The Beastie Boys were on the same bill as The Prodigy at a festival and requested that they didn't play Smack My Bitch Up because it was offensive to women. The Prodigy told them to fuck off, and a number of journalists opined that it was a bit rich of them to accuse anyone of sexism when they used to write misogynistic lyrics and say misogynistic things in interviews and have go-go dancers on stage. Their response to that was essentially "But we were young then". Of course they were then called out for not giving The Prodge the benefit of the doubt Re: age.

One of the many reasons I think The Beastie Boys are wankers. I'm not even a fan of The Prodigy but I just thought 'how fucking dare you?'

Motes in your own eye and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 29, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
Here's an interview Boyle did with Richard Osman in 2014 where he talks about the Price joke and controversial humour in general. Osman (who I'm not a fan of usually) takes him to task about it quite well and I'm not impressed by Boyle's justifications.

https://youtu.be/0MRz9RPlsDQ?t=324
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on December 29, 2020, 10:41:18 PM
Boyle's just as much of a cunt as he's always been. I saw one of his whatever it's called programmes and it was tedious beyond belief. Reactionary views and guests who are there to go "oh my God, did you really say that?" at his sub-Brooker lines.

But he's right about Gervais. It's Piers Morgan and a government minister.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:04:11 AM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:45:01 PM


Also I did find it very funny when he tried to call out Andrew Lawrence on Twitter during that time he went a bit UKIP, and Lawrence just replied with a mention of the Rebecca Adlington joke and Boyle had no comeback. Lawrence totally owned him there, I had to admit.

That seems to me to be the salient point. We have free speech in this country so people can joke about whatever they like and people can, in turn, choose to listen or not listen. But if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:10:14 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
Boyle does not seem to make edgelordy jokes any more

Well he certainly was on his New World Order programme a few weeks ago. Accompanied by the trademark shots of his fellow comedians laughing hysterically and doing faces that say, "Oooh Frankie, you didn't go THERE did you? Oh Frankie! WHAT ARE YOU LIKE?!"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: trabuch on December 30, 2020, 01:24:34 AM
Ricky Gervais
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sonny_Jim on December 30, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
QuoteBut if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about
So Boyle isn't allowed to criticise Gervais because he's a hypocrite?

Also it's not really a double standard, is it?  One joke affects a solitary person, whereas the other targets a minority.  But yeah, something about Ricky punching down and Boyle punching up.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dog Botherer on December 30, 2020, 04:30:23 AM
they're both shit cunts but i will give Boyle credit for at least sometimes being funny
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on December 30, 2020, 07:59:35 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:04:11 AM
That seems to me to be the salient point. We have free speech in this country so people can joke about whatever they like and people can, in turn, choose to listen or not listen. But if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about.

Reminds me of a bloke I used to work with. The first conversation I had with him on his first day (I happened to go up to the office in the goods lift at the same time as him) was about whether I was 'politically correct.' It was clear that he saw himself as some sort of loose-lipped verbal gunslinger and indeed he did do all the racist, sexist, disablist stuff, always with a veil of 'irony.'

Then one day I said something offhand about a subject he obviously didn't think was a laughing matter (not saying what it is and I didn't know this at the time but it turned out to be something that had affected his family) and his face fell. I swear I could see tears forming in his eyes and he immediately turned round and walked out of the room. Aw come on mate, I was only having a laugh there. Can't you take a joke? Etc.

PS, I think Jerry Sadowitz is about a million times better than Boyle, Gervais and Carr all put together. In a mincer.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on December 30, 2020, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:04:11 AM
That seems to me to be the salient point. We have free speech in this country so people can joke about whatever they like and people can, in turn, choose to listen or not listen. But if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about.

Well, of course you can, as that's also free speech. And people are then, in turn, free to point out your hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 30, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on December 30, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
Also it's not really a double standard, is it?  One joke affects a solitary person, whereas the other targets a minority.
Oh, come on. The Harvey Price bit was a patchwork of ableist slurs. To the extent broadcasting that sort of thing "affects" anyone, I fail to see how attaching the routine to specific people mitigates the content. He even says in some poorly thought-out attempt to justify the material in that interview with Richard Osman that he handpicked characteristics that aren't actually associated with Harvey Price's specific conditions.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ajsmith2 on December 30, 2020, 09:50:38 AM
Boyle is a hypocrite who cynically deployed edgy humour to advance his career when it was expedient (and more socially acceptable) to do so, but he does seem like a real flawed human being, whereas Gervais comes across as an insane megalomaniacal psychopath leading an army of possessed gaslighting radicals, so I'm still on team Boyle for this one.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on December 30, 2020, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship
hahaha "the tower of Babylon"

James Dreyfus is a fucking gullible idiot. Him weirdly praising Chris Langham is also incredible. Yes Chris was a great performer but saying that to him like evaporates the consequences of his behaviour as if his criminal conviction doesnt matter because he is a good comedy man
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ornlu on December 30, 2020, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: olliebean on December 30, 2020, 09:03:27 AM
Well, of course you can, as that's also free speech. And people are then, in turn, free to point out your hypocrisy.

I can't stand it when people do this. It always spoils the joke.

And for what? It never seems to top it with a better joke - instead it's always just low-effort 'gotcha' shit. A child's "ommm, I'm telling". Who the fuck gets any enjoyment from reading that?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JaDanketies on December 30, 2020, 10:51:14 AM
The GC goons on Twitter must have some severe cognitive dissonance when they deny being transphobic. But whenever anyone condemns transphobia, they leap to its defence. It's like when Sainsbury's said "no racists in our store please," and definitely-not-racist Lawrence Fox said "fuck you, I'm never going in one again if you don't want me."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:19:25 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on December 30, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
So Boyle isn't allowed to criticise Gervais because he's a hypocrite?

Also it's not really a double standard, is it?  One joke affects a solitary person, whereas the other targets a minority.  But yeah, something about Ricky punching down and Boyle punching up.

Of course it's a double standard. The individual concerned was a disabled child. That's bad enough but imagine all the other disabled kids whose lives were made worse because of the joke.

Its hard for me because my brother is disabled and very vulnerable but, on balance, I think we should, for reasons of free speech, be allowed to make jokes about anything. Nobody is forced to hear them. And that's where I presumed Frankie stood on the matter. Fair enough. But, no. He says there actually is a line you can't cross and it happens to be wherever he arbitrarily draws it. Forgive me, but that is hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Jockice on December 30, 2020, 07:59:35 AM
Reminds me of a bloke I used to work with. The first conversation I had with him on his first day (I happened to go up to the office in the goods lift at the same time as him) was about whether I was 'politically correct.' It was clear that he saw himself as some sort of loose-lipped verbal gunslinger and indeed he did do all the racist, sexist, disablist stuff, always with a veil of 'irony.'

Then one day I said something offhand about a subject he obviously didn't think was a laughing matter (not saying what it is and I didn't know this at the time but it turned out to be something that had affected his family) and his face fell. I swear I could see tears forming in his eyes and he immediately turned round and walked out of the room. Aw come on mate, I was only having a laugh there. Can't you take a joke? Etc.


This is exactly it. I suspect we've all met people like this.
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Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:21:16 AM
Quote from: olliebean on December 30, 2020, 09:03:27 AM
Well, of course you can, as that's also free speech. And people are then, in turn, free to point out your hypocrisy.

Great. Thanks for summarising the discussion.
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Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:23:16 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 30, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
Oh, come on. The Harvey Price bit was a patchwork of ableist slurs. To the extent broadcasting that sort of thing "affects" anyone, I fail to see how attaching the routine to specific people mitigates the content. He even says in some poorly thought-out attempt to justify the material in that interview with Richard Osman that he handpicked characteristics that aren't actually associated with Harvey Price's specific conditions.

Ha! Worst excuse ever.
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Post by: Bazooka on December 31, 2020, 08:44:32 AM
You don't have to be a genius to know he is a coward and decided to mock a disabled child who had a celebrity mother which made Harvey Price free game, he knew this gave him the security to make the joke. I don't know why he didn't do impressions of him being blind.
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 30, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
he handpicked characteristics that aren't actually associated with Harvey Price's specific conditions.

Being a tendency to rape, as that's what the joke was about, or was it part of a longer sequence?
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Post by: Jockice on December 31, 2020, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 08:51:11 AM
Being a tendency to rape, as that's what the joke was about, or was it part of a longer sequence?

Yeah, but all disableds have that tendency. Which is somehow crossed with asexuality. We're weird us lot. Best avoided.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 31, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 08:51:11 AM
Being a tendency to rape, as that's what the joke was about, or was it part of a longer sequence?
Handpicked a characteristic then, but yes. He said Harvey Price's autism would make it more likely that he would avoid physical contact with other people. ETA and just to be clear, I don't think "tendency to rape" is a characteristic of any disability, Boyle's joke is obviously playing into the wider trope of learning disabled people being Of Mice and Men style brutes who can't control their impulses.
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 09:54:19 AM
I think it would be funny to joke about Harvey Price falling on top of Frankie's face and not getting up for a long time.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 31, 2020, 02:11:40 PM
Shallow side note , but something about Boyle's voice in a discussion puts me on edge. He always sounds to me like he's talking through gritted teeth and might lamp the person he's chatting with if they say the wrong thing.
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Post by: Sonny_Jim on December 31, 2020, 03:13:04 PM
I thought he sounded rather posh and limp wristed in that recent Louis interview.
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Post by: neveragain on January 01, 2021, 01:06:28 AM
I thought he sounded rather deep and nasally, and prone to summing situations up based on thoughts that occurred to him when leaving a certain area.
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Post by: scarecrow on January 01, 2021, 12:04:31 PM
In his recent interview with Ash Sarkar, Boyle described his older persons as 'nihilistic'. I don't like any of his material - and agree that it was catnip for bullies - but fair enough. He doesn't have to hide behind explanations for it. Contrast with Gervais who's all about explaining his comedy, to the point that the material is an afterthought.

I think Boyle really does see that the trans routine is rotten and lazy, but his main attack line - that Gervais chooses to identify as a stand up comedian - suggests that his issue is with Gervais's charlatanism more than anything else. I reckon Boyle thinks it's okay to say whatever hateful shit you want so long as you've paid your dues on the circuit.
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Post by: olliebean on January 01, 2021, 10:31:29 PM
Quote from: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Presumably it's "most watched in the world" not of all time, but just in the particular period when a lot of people were watching it. Most watched of that year, perhaps. (Or maybe even just most watched on Netflix.)

Seeing that the most watched new British comedy of 2020 was the Blankety Blank special with Bradley Walsh made me think about this again: Netflix doesn't release its viewing figures, so "most watched in the world" wrt a Netflix show could only possibly refer to most watched on Netflix according to Netflix's own charts.
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Post by: Bronzy on January 06, 2021, 03:33:18 PM
https://twitter.com/officialgham/status/1346545306142453768?s=21
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Post by: phes on May 03, 2021, 08:21:28 PM
dropping by to ring the bell - Ricky has confirmed that afterlife 3 might be 'his best work yet'!
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Post by: Gulftastic on May 03, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: phes on May 03, 2021, 08:21:28 PM
dropping by to ring the bell - Ricky has confirmed that afterlife 3 might be 'his best work yet'!

It's nice that he helps his echo chamber with their tweeting. Sycophancy can be taxing.
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Post by: Blue Jam on May 03, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1389265466481385475

"Absolutely Mental". Ooooh, edgy!

Ham Sarris as well, two of the Four Horsemen of Atheism right there. Urrrrgggghh.
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Post by: JaDanketies on May 03, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
PZ Myers has some good blogs about how disappointing nu-atheism was in retrospect

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2019/01/25/the-train-wreck-that-was-the-new-atheism/
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 03, 2021, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 03, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1389265466481385475

"Absolutely Mental". Ooooh, edgy!

Ham Sarris as well, two of the Four Horsemen of Atheism right there. Urrrrgggghh.

His fans are such twerps.

(https://i.imgur.com/nC0dB9t.png)
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Post by: ImmaculateClump on May 03, 2021, 10:37:13 PM
He should ask for his money back.
Why Paddy Mcaloon cosplay as gandalf the white now?

I hope this one's a bit more fruitbat. Series 2 was such an airy fart.
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Post by: Ferris on May 03, 2021, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: phes on May 03, 2021, 08:21:28 PM
dropping by to ring the bell - Ricky has confirmed that afterlife 3 might be 'his best work yet'!

First the pandemic, now this.
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 03, 2021, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: ImmaculateClump on May 03, 2021, 10:37:13 PM
Why Paddy Mcaloon cosplay as gandalf the white now?
Wye on Hay?

(https://i.imgur.com/7bgv8sO.png)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on May 03, 2021, 11:09:06 PM
Quote from: ImmaculateClump on May 03, 2021, 10:37:13 PM

I hope this one's a bit more fruitbat. Series 2 was such an airy fart.

Last one was just dull, predictable, and inoffensive. Want either 100% more fruitbat or 100% more of the Phoneshop guys[nb]so, a new series of Phoneshop[/nb].

Writing that reminded me that Paul Kaye was in this and terrible (or more working with terrible material). I wonder if he still needs/wants the money enough for this series.

Amazed, though, that it's taken Gervais this long to change the words on the cover sheet to Final Version
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Post by: bgmnts on May 03, 2021, 11:11:30 PM
If we were to write 'Ricky Gervais's After Extras' it would just be a picture of Derek throwing a dwarf in the air whilst jizzing on a homeless junkie.
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Post by: JamesTC on May 04, 2021, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 03, 2021, 11:11:30 PM
If we were to write 'Ricky Gervais's After Extras' it would just be a picture of Derek throwing a dwarf in the air whilst jizzing on a homeless junkie.

I stopped to consider if that actually happened in an episode of Derek.
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Post by: olliebean on May 04, 2021, 04:28:33 PM
Who's going to die in this one, do we reckon?
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Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
It's like Morrissey albums: no matter how shit and offensive he becomes, the fans lap it up so he makes another.
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Post by: paruses on May 04, 2021, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: olliebean on May 04, 2021, 04:28:33 PM
Who's going to die in this one, do we reckon?

Quick recap please -

S1 he was responsible for the death of the sad heroin addict. But the Obermann character confirmed he was a great guy not yet ready for love.
S2 - dead dad[nb]Between the Lines! That's where I have seen his dad the actor recently[/nb] but still a great guy and the nurse turns up at the end to do things entirely on his terms (because he is sad but a great guy).

That right?

Dog will not die but might be almost dead at some point is my guess. Will be very sad but amazing to watch and speak for millions.

Will nursey still be on the scene? 50/50 on that. Maybe she will have taught him stuff (they love bum stuff in my experience) but have moved on allowing for a new love interest.

Is the intricately woven prostitute character still in it? I've forgotten already. Maybe she will have a Jody Foster-type ward who Tony becomes involved with after she lights a cigarette to time their encounter.

I want that sort of stuff in it not just easy sad stuff and old ladies saying cunt.
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Post by: paruses on May 04, 2021, 04:48:58 PM
Maybe he buys her a watch.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 04, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
The shrink is the absolute low point. If he's still in it, having been outed as a fraud and a misogynist, then it's just a sequence of crap sketches and mawkish monologues rather than an actual narrative with any direction or attempt at maintaining plausible characters (which was already happening in the first episode of Series 1 but has gradually worsened).
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Post by: Mr. Ssmsslth on May 05, 2021, 05:57:58 AM
Gervais' output has obviously been shit for ages but I think his conversations with Sam Harris are entertaining enough.
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Post by: Blue Jam on May 29, 2021, 06:39:46 PM
Ruh-roh...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57291604
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on May 29, 2021, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 29, 2021, 06:39:46 PM
Ruh-roh...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57291604

Blimey that's horribly bleak. He has quite the comedy cv too, and has worked on a good deal of shows I love (This Morning With Richard Not Judy, The Harry Hill Show), along with some terrible dreck too.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dothestrand on May 30, 2021, 08:46:54 PM
How do you work with someone for nearly two decades and not have a clue?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on May 30, 2021, 09:19:42 PM
Quote from: dothestrand on May 30, 2021, 08:46:54 PM
How do you work with someone for nearly two decades and not have a clue?

By being a bloke and being very powerful?

To be fair to Gervais abusers can be very good at hiding in plain sight and victims can be afraid to speak up. If Gervais was never targeted personally the chances are he'd never have known.

QuoteGervais said: "I am shocked and appalled to learn of the historical allegations made by a number of women against Charlie Hanson.

"The decision was made to immediately remove him from production and I am confident the matter is being handled thoroughly.

To his credit he has taken the claims of the alleged victims seriously and seems to be handling this well, so fair play to him.
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Post by: Mobius on May 30, 2021, 09:48:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBgYQntWUAAsvDc?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 30, 2021, 11:41:45 PM
The BBC report doesn't say so, but two women who thought he was mentoring them as writers and performers have alleged separate but similar incidents of meeting Hanson to discuss their work, then waking up to find him having sex with them in an unfamiliar house, with no memory of getting there. Both incidents in 2008. There are at least nine other women with separate allegations.

Hanson was quoted as saying he's fighting the allegations "because I know that's not what I'm like".  Odd wording, but we'll see.
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Post by: Ferris on May 31, 2021, 12:58:13 AM
Too grim to even joke about. Bleh.
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Post by: evilcommiedictator on June 01, 2021, 02:32:21 AM
Do you think at the moment Gervais notices anything that's not about himself?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on June 03, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1400447068896784385

BE SAD
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Post by: phes on June 03, 2021, 09:51:59 PM
Oh fuck

This looks like a return to form. Multiple kids with cancer, the heavy artillery is out. Try slagging this off you keeeeeyunnnnnnts *dislocates jaw* awwhahahahahah
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Post by: frajer on June 03, 2021, 10:06:07 PM
Looks like a job for good ol Robot Grief Dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on June 03, 2021, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Mobius on June 03, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1400447068896784385

BE SAD

What the fuck is this reply? https://twitter.com/bella_beddywhip/status/1400448468435361799

I thought it was a pisstake but it actually seems to be a Gervais superfan desperate to get their dog in the show.
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Post by: paruses on June 03, 2021, 11:01:25 PM
I was hoping it was going to be a true return to insanity but it looks like another very cheap way to get people to say it made them cry and all for the cost of a few headscarves.

This tweet is 50% accurate though:

https://twitter.com/GiselaWarnecke/status/1400465370671063050?s=20

Quote
Lisa with other children who have cancer and are getting chemo like her. I think it´s great that you give other people an insight into what chemo is in #AfterLife3.What you went through as Tony with Lisa. Tony fought cancer with Lisa. Thanks for the great insight into #AfterLife3

There will be no real insight into what having chemo is like BUT it will all be about Tony.
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 03, 2021, 11:13:34 PM
Lisa telling the cancer kids "honestly, he's the kindest man in the world, he's like a kindness superhero, you should see my face when he poos in my morning coffee as a practical joke, I just can't believe how kind he is".
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Post by: Vroomo on September 18, 2021, 10:25:49 PM
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1439332221710651397?s=21

What's the matter?  Too challenging for ya?
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Post by: TommyTurnips on September 19, 2021, 02:18:17 AM
I just want to know who's trying to cancel my medium fry-up.
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Post by: imitationleather on September 19, 2021, 05:39:58 AM
Quote from: MigraineBoy on September 18, 2021, 10:25:49 PM
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1439332221710651397?s=21

What's the matter?  Too challenging for ya?

I'm pleased to see someone's finally been brave enough to have a go at the bloody snowflakes.
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Post by: BritishHobo on September 19, 2021, 09:47:19 AM
Fucking christ.
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on September 19, 2021, 10:03:16 AM
Might watch it because he tweeted that Todd Rundgren will feature on the soundtrack. It'll probably just be Hello It's Me as usual though.
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Post by: phes on September 19, 2021, 11:04:08 AM
Is this nob really still banging that drum. What a few years for ageing white male comedians this has been huh. Someone on this forum is surely well positioned to write the comedy tosser family tree from M**g gate and Robot Grief Dogs to sex pests and cum stained banancunts
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Post by: jobotic on September 19, 2021, 11:07:16 AM
This probably does mean it's got a transphobic bit. Bravely
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Post by: Cuellar on September 19, 2021, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: Echo Valley 2-6809 on September 19, 2021, 10:03:16 AM
Might watch it because he tweeted that Todd Rundgren will feature on the soundtrack. It'll probably just be Hello It's Me as usual though.

Played over Gervais turning up at someones front door
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Post by: Captain Z on September 19, 2021, 11:21:04 AM
OMG I don't normally enjoy modern newspaper articles but Ricky Gervais' latest "watch out, snowflakes" actually made me cry with emotion! Literally nobody else could do this. Ricky Gervais is one of a kind.
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Post by: Blue Jam on September 19, 2021, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: jobotic on September 19, 2021, 11:07:16 AM
This probably does mean it's got a transphobic bit. Bravely

Well, he has retweeted James Dreyfus's praise:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1439266121488769025

"a man who has successfully blurred the wafer thin line between the real RG and the painfully hilarious character". Oh fuck off JD, he's not Larry David. He's not even Jack Dee.
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Post by: frajer on September 19, 2021, 12:09:35 PM
Oh yeah he's blurred that line like a champ.

Ricky Gervais, how DO you portay an egotistical out-of-touch sack of shit who relies on saying whatever lazy stereotype is on his mind as a substitute for actual jokes SO well?
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Post by: Blue Jam on September 19, 2021, 12:15:27 PM
How does he blur that line so well? I think it may be the way the character just happens to dress exactly like the actor does in real life. Inspired.

After Life is like a British Curb where the main character is always right and always "wins" and goes through life DESTROYING everyone who disagrees with him- ie, boring.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on September 19, 2021, 12:25:39 PM
Never has a man said so fucking little by saying so much.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on September 19, 2021, 12:33:06 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on September 19, 2021, 12:15:27 PM
How does he blur that line so well? I think it may be the way the character just happens to dress exactly like the actor does in real life. Inspired.

After Life is like a British Curb where the main character is always right and always "wins" and goes through life DESTROYING everyone who disagrees with him- ie, boring.

It is funny how so few of Curb's or One Foot in the Grave's imitators get what made those shows work.

Like, Victor is more often "in the right" than Larry is, but he's still an unbearable knob head whose one-upmanship is a substitute for how unhappy his life is. And Larry's life is less sad but his unfiltered worldview, while often right, is just as often wrong. And even when right, goes about it by making his life so much worse.

EDIT: While Jack Dee's Lead Balloon is a rather blah, ho-hum show, at least it gets that the unfiltered attitude is fucking up his life.
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Post by: Oblomov Boblomov on September 19, 2021, 04:23:44 PM
Several gushing respondents to that James Dreyfus tweet have green and purple heart emojis next to their names. Why might that be I wonder. Liberal use of the word genius there as well.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 04:31:15 PM
fucking hell are they still making this shite?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 19, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
I hope he pushes another drug addict to kill himself, calls a child a cunt and sees a phantom with Kerry Godliman's face advancing across a pond to him like Sadako in Ringu. Such brave television, he tells It like It is and the snowflakes cannot stand It!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: frajer on September 19, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
I hope he pushes another drug addict to kill himself, calls a child a cunt and sees a phantom with Kerry Godliman's face advancing across a pond to him like Sadako in Ringu. Such brave television, he tells It like It is and the snowflakes cannot stand It!

It being a sewer-dwelling kid eater, yeah?

I mean it has been 27 years since gervais was any good aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 19, 2021, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
It being a sewer-dwelling kid eater, yeah?

I mean it has been 27 years since gervais was any good aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hey look it's a gay-bashing clown who must be destroyed

And over there is Stephen King's monster Pennywise
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on September 19, 2021, 05:18:09 PM
Quote from: Wayman C. McCreery on June 03, 2021, 10:34:58 PM
What the fuck is this reply? https://twitter.com/bella_beddywhip/status/1400448468435361799

I thought it was a pisstake but it actually seems to be a Gervais superfan desperate to get their dog in the show.
but it uses first person as if the dog is tweeting! Incredible. Watch out snowflakes.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: frajer on September 19, 2021, 05:01:02 PM
Hey look it's a gay-bashing clown who must be destroyed

And over there is Stephen King's monster Pennywise

Total sidetrack but I am still pissed off that the fillums missed the point that King was externally slighting homophobia (and intolerance in general; what with the massive Mike Hanlon chapters) with the whole book's structure, and instead focused on a spooky culown who don't like the gays.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Pancake on September 20, 2021, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: frajer on September 19, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
I hope he pushes another drug addict to kill himself, calls a child a cunt and sees a phantom with Kerry Godliman's face advancing across a pond to him like Sadako in Ringu. Such brave television, he tells It like It is and the snowflakes cannot stand It!

THANK YOU for the reminder

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on September 20, 2021, 04:47:22 PM
That shot... dear god.

Hey Ricky, how about you stare wistfully at your wife as she swims in the distance?
Is she staring and smiling directly into the camera?
Well... no. She's in the distance. She's swimming. The audience will infer that...
Then how will people know I'm nice?
Er...
Fuck sake guys SUBTEXT yeah? I can't be the only one on top of this yeah?
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Post by: colacentral on September 20, 2021, 05:02:21 PM
(https://i.gifer.com/59EH.gif)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: markburgle on September 20, 2021, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: Satchmo Distel on May 04, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
The shrink is the absolute low point. If he's still in it, having been outed as a fraud and a misogynist, then it's just a sequence of crap sketches and mawkish monologues rather than an actual narrative with any direction or attempt at maintaining plausible characters (which was already happening in the first episode of Series 1 but has gradually worsened).

I haven't seen the show but I bloody bet this shrink character will still be there. He loves writing oblivious incompetents, and will have the main character continue to employ them for no reason at all so he (Gervais) can keep having them muck everything up with hilarious consequences (see Darren Lamb, the accountant from Life's Too Short, the assistant from Life's Too Short, Kev from off Derek)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on November 09, 2021, 11:00:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bim0bpnnkWo

Nobody in the trailer apart from Gervais and the dog. Has everyone else died?
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Post by: Ferris on November 09, 2021, 11:07:04 PM
Trying to think of a more hackneyed track to play in the back of a trailer with no audio.

...Welcome to the Jungle? The Boys are Back in Town? It's slim pickings.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dickie_Anders on November 09, 2021, 11:16:35 PM
Is the story of this new series that Ricky Gervais' character starts shagging his dog?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Captain Z on November 09, 2021, 11:21:12 PM
I letterally cried. HOW DO HE DO THIS?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on November 09, 2021, 11:31:22 PM
I just hate this cunt so much. And all of the fucking idiots who think the stuff he makes is good. Like for fucks sake what is wrong with people.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on November 10, 2021, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: Mobius on November 09, 2021, 11:31:22 PM
I just hate this cunt so much. And all of the fucking idiots who think the stuff he makes is good. Like for fucks sake what is wrong with people.

I'd avoid the comments then...
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on November 10, 2021, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: Bobloblawslawbomb on November 10, 2021, 12:07:16 AM
I'd avoid the comments then...

The Gervais reddit is a soothing balm, they all hate him too.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on November 10, 2021, 01:12:32 AM
😭 

His wife wouldn't have wanted him to be sad though.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.

Tony snorting coke and weeping as he watches some old VHS tapes of himself farting in the dog's face or throwing a bucket of water on it while it's asleep.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on November 10, 2021, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.
Followed by a tweet of Ricky assuring his disciples that the dog is alive and well in real life and here's a photo to prove it..
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on November 10, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
It's Always Sunny in Generic Home Counties England
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 10, 2021, 11:35:48 AM
still looking at that styrofoam headstone that inexplicably is out of alignment with every other burial plot in the cemetery then
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on November 10, 2021, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.

Tony snorting coke and weeping as he watches some old VHS tapes of himself farting in the dog's face or throwing a bucket of water on it while it's asleep.

Then he sees it's head, eerily pasted on to another dog's swimming body, floating towards him in a local pool.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on November 10, 2021, 11:43:49 AM
That's the trailer??

he should at least of wanked the dogged off all over his face and then the dog cum makes a picture of Kerry Godliman's face over Derek4life's face and he looks sad but defiant.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 10, 2021, 11:47:02 AM
Series 1. Gervais doesn't kill himself because he looks over and realises the dog needs feeding.

Series 2. Continues to feed dog while inexplicably being regarded as the nicest, kindest man in the world.

Series 3. Dog dies. Gervais kills self? NO. Gets new puppy. "'Cos that's the beauty of life, there'll always be a dog that needs feeding."

Fucking hell this cunt is kind. Not a dry eye in the house.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on November 10, 2021, 12:00:36 PM
Robot grief dog wife
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
More of the dog whine sound effect being dropped in as if dogs understand English and they whine on cue when anyone starts talking about sad things? And a whine is just Dog for "Yes human, I understand and am sad too"?

Dogs are more likely to whine when they want attention or they're bored or they see a squirrel through the window or the phone rings FFS
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:40:48 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.

Electrocuted humping Robot Grief Dog
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on November 10, 2021, 08:49:54 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
More of the dog whine sound effect being dropped in as if dogs understand English and they whine on cue when anyone starts talking about sad things? And a whine is just Dog for "Yes human, I understand and am sad too"?

Dogs are more likely to whine when they want attention or they're bored or they see a squirrel through the window or the phone rings FFS

TBF you can't really blame Gervais for that as pretty much every dog in all of film and TV has empathy whines dubbed on.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: shiftwork2 on November 10, 2021, 09:04:47 PM
I would rather pull my ring piece out with a coathanger than watch this drivel.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on November 10, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:40:48 PM
Electrocuted humping Robot Grief Dog

90's alt-rockers Whale consider rewrite
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on November 10, 2021, 11:24:33 PM
Sorry the sentiment wasn't globbed on thick enough in that trailer, what was all that best friend stuff about?? Completely went over my head, this show probably isn't for me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dr beat on November 10, 2021, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: DJ Bob Hoskins on November 10, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
90's alt-rockers Whale consider rewrite

Brilliant :)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on November 11, 2021, 01:05:17 AM
the more I see of this guy the more I'm wondering if he's lost the magic
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sonny_Jim on November 11, 2021, 06:54:59 AM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on November 09, 2021, 11:07:04 PM
Trying to think of a more hackneyed track to play in the back of a trailer with no audio.

...Welcome to the Jungle? The Boys are Back in Town? It's slim pickings.
I was going to say Smashmouth, but that's only if the film was made in the 90's.  At least they stumped up the cash for the Queen recording, rather that getting some prick[nb]I'm sure they are very nice really[/nb] and a ukulele[nb]Might not actually be Ukulele[/nb] to do a slow sad version.

Quote from: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
More of the dog whine sound effect being dropped in as if dogs understand English and they whine on cue when anyone starts talking about sad things? And a whine is just Dog for "Yes human, I understand and am sad too"?
I've just realised that Chewie was Han Solos pet dog in Star Wars.  R2D2 was Lukes pet dustbin.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on November 11, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: olliebean on November 09, 2021, 11:00:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bim0bpnnkWo

Nobody in the trailer apart from Gervais and the dog. Has everyone else died?
Thought there'd be a bathetic gag at the end, like the dog shits on his bed or something.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 11, 2021, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: kalowski on November 11, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Thought there'd be a bathetic gag at the end, like the dog shits on his bed or something.

Gervais shits in the dog's bed and then films the dog's baffled reaction, so he has something to watch and cry over once the dog dies. Fuck me that man is kind.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 11, 2021, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: kalowski on November 11, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Thought there'd be a bathetic gag at the end, like the dog shits on his bed or something.
jokes? Narrative? No. This is simply a man who loves his dog.

Thought sleeping with the arm round it was a bit much. Never shared a bed with a big dog but I cant believe theyd be having that. It also looks like he might have just fucked the dog
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on November 11, 2021, 11:34:58 AM
Quote from: olliebean on November 09, 2021, 11:00:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bim0bpnnkWo

Nobody in the trailer apart from Gervais and the dog. Has everyone else died?

I like this idea of a post-apocalyptic take on the concept of "After Life". After All Life On Earth.

<fade in to opening verse of "The End" by The Doors>

"In a world where all of humanity has been wiped out by the inscrutable and absolute obliterating light of one man's kindness, that same one man now walks the earth with his dog in a quest to bravely call someone - something - a tubby little cunt."

<Gervais contemplates the tropical ocean pufferfish in his hand, shakes his head with a brave smile and releases it safely into a nearby pond>

<The camera pulls back to reveal him stood near a solitary grave in an otherwise barren and empty landscape>

<A NETFLIX ORIGINAL SERIES>

<AFTER LIFE>
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 11, 2021, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: The Mollusk on November 11, 2021, 11:34:58 AM
"In a world where all of Humanity has been wiped out

...y'know, because it's too offensive and that
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Bumlord on November 11, 2021, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Mobius on November 10, 2021, 12:11:18 AM
The Gervais reddit is a soothing balm, they all hate him too.




Ha


(https://i.imgur.com/cQSR8asl.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wooders1978 on November 11, 2021, 05:47:15 PM
Predicted synopsis:
Between season 2-3 he's wrecked all his new found friendships due to being so *ruddy* sad, his bench mate has moved on with new fella, scotch nurse has fucked off - all he has left is his beloved dog - dog dies though, totes heartbreak, then he gets a new one and falls in love again with the puppy, realises he can do this with his bird - back with scotch nurse and friendships repaired - everyone saying how lovely he is and hes the best bloke they've ever encountered - end scene
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on November 11, 2021, 07:10:12 PM
What if someone not-kind kills the dog and he goes all John Wick (aided by a kind prostitute). I would 100% enjoy watching a tubby John Wick - all breathless and sweaty but sarcastic (and KIND).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neveragain on November 11, 2021, 10:29:28 PM
Sorry to spoil the fun but yer man stated on Instagram that he would never kill the dog. It could be a lie but I think he knows his super-fanbase would react well to that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on November 12, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
do people hate watch this? i can't even bring myself to do that after the undeniable mediocrity of series 1.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: paruses on November 11, 2021, 07:10:12 PM
What if someone not-kind kills the dog and he goes all John Wick (aided by a kind prostitute). I would 100% enjoy watching a tubby John Wick - all breathless and sweaty but sarcastic (and KIND).

John Thicc

Oh gawd, has he watched Nobody and got ideas? I jest, but:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rickygervais/comments/qqcy2o/youre_muscly_why/

Would be funny if some bad Russian dudes throw him through a bus window and then he gets home and takes his shirt off and we see the lacerations to his chest spell out ATHEIST
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:41:51 PM
(I would pay good money to see Ricky Gervais do a geriaction flick ngl)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: Hat FM on November 12, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
do people hate watch this? i can't even bring myself to do that after the undeniable mediocrity of series 1.

I hate-watched series 1 and it was bizarre but not quite Derke-level bizarre, not enough to be entertainingly "WTF?". I also sat through the opening episode of series 2 and that was enough, it was just a bit too dull to continue with.

Overall this show is really just too boring to inspire any strong feelings. It's more fun to hate-read all the inexplicable praise it gets from his followers on Twitter and see how they obediently dogpile onto any dissenters.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on November 12, 2021, 12:47:24 PM
Yeah, it was a weird hallucinatory disjointed mess but not completely insane like Derek, so I don't think I bothered with series 2.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:49:26 PM
I think After Life is a bit like Humanity in that it starts off a bit WTF but by the halfway point it's just noise and you tune out.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on November 12, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
Quote from: Hat FM on November 12, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
do people hate watch this? i can't even bring myself to do that after the undeniable mediocrity of series 1.

I couldn't even make it through the tedious insanity of Derke. Something this beige had no chance.

I've just remembered the gag where The Rickster sat in a pie and that was the whole thing. What a mess that show was.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 12, 2021, 01:34:10 PM
Can't he come up with another show premise where he can play a character who wears a tight-fitting black t shirt and is kind to animals
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on November 12, 2021, 02:40:17 PM
The Derek threads were great. I wasn't signed up here but I was lurkng away and watching along with the insanity with everyone else. All the memes, editing the wiki, unmasking Tadpole Hitler and oh the Derek fan fiction! It was a great time in my life. I haven't even bothered to watch Afterlife though, I've read you all talking about it though and seems like it would be a painful come down after the kindness of Derek. I think I have a fair idea of what it's about.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 12, 2021, 02:50:00 PM
Yes, Derek was an absolute fucking demented horrorshow of baffling decisions from an overblown and thin-skinned comedy ego. Well worth the attention and inspiring in its lunacy.

Afterlife is a tepid ITV1 Sunday night comedy-drama with a few swears and nonce jokes thrown in, and not even as good as that description suggests.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on November 12, 2021, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
I hate-watched series 1 and it was bizarre but not quite Derke-level bizarre, not enough to be entertainingly "WTF?". I also sat through the opening episode of series 2 and that was enough, it was just a bit too dull to continue with.

Overall this show is really just too boring to inspire any strong feelings. It's more fun to hate-read all the inexplicable praise it gets from his followers on Twitter and see how they obediently dogpile onto any dissenters.

Same for me.

I did like the perversity of identifying where and why it's wrong /just not good enough but there was always something that eluded me. It's just occurred to me that it's like a comedy attempt at one of those Harlan Coben adaptations - set in England but at the same time not recognisable. It seems to be set in what Americans think an English town is like.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: colacentral on November 14, 2021, 10:53:02 AM
I reckon someone will be a cunt and he'll call them a cunt.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on November 14, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on November 12, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
I couldn't even make it through the tedious insanity of Derke. Something this beige had no chance.

I've just remembered the gag where The Rickster sat in a pie and that was the whole thing. What a mess that show was.
How dare you. It was crumble.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on November 14, 2021, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on November 14, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
How dare you. It was crumble.

Pie wouldn't have been funny. And there was custard on top of the crumble as well!! Gervais knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 18, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
Been listening to the Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend podcast lately and thought I'd give the Ricky Gervais one a hate-listen. I'm mildly annoyed to report that it was a good listen and he comes across surprisingly well. Lots of interesting stuff about the intricacies of constructing jokes and the reasons why things are funny.

There's a bit where he talks about Tony from After Life as this man who wants to lash out and be misanthropic but can't because he has a conscience and he's just too nice. I would have found that interesting if only I didn't know how at odds that desription is with the actual show that I have seen.

Always amusing to hear him talk about his great friend David Bough-ie as well.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 19, 2021, 11:18:59 AM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 18, 2021, 05:42:03 PMThere's a bit where he talks about Tony from After Life as this man who wants to lash out and be misanthropic but can't because he has a conscience and he's just too nice. I would have found that interesting if only I didn't know how at odds that desription is with the actual show that I have seen.

There's definitely a good version of After Life to be made from the concept, but the writing is the laziest boring shit I can think of in a modern sitcom.

It's just so limited in scope, and churned out in the most autopilot way possible. The constant straw characters he sets up just so he can "eviscerate" them and walk away going "thus I win" is painful but even worse is having every character he meets call him the kindest, most decent man they've ever met. It's bizarre, but not in a fascinating Derek way.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dissolute ocelot on November 19, 2021, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on November 14, 2021, 12:22:39 PMPie wouldn't have been funny. And there was custard on top of the crumble as well!! Gervais knows what he's doing.
Crumble is funny if he stands up and you see his bum has crumble on it. Pie is funny if you see the busted pie afterwards. Choux pastries would be funny if he sat down and a jet of cream shot out. WHICH WAS IT?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 19, 2021, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: frajer on November 19, 2021, 11:18:59 AMThere's definitely a good version of After Life to be made from the concept, but the writing is the laziest boring shit I can think of in a modern sitcom.

I remember Chris Morris coming up with an idea for a hidden camera show called "It's Alright, He's Got Cancer", in which a man would prank unsuspecting members of the public and at the point where someone lost their rageand was about to hit him the camera crew would jump out and shout those words in the title. I think that was in Second Class Male (FAKE EDIT: Here (http://richardgeefe.blogspot.com/), and it looks like "It's OK, He's About To Top Himself" was another idea of Morris's) and Richard Geefe/The Suicide Jornalist himself was a not dissimilar idea.

The idea that staring death in the face gives someone the superpower of being able to do what they want without fear is an interesting one, but the reality of Tony using that "superpower" to... call a small child a cunt is so much less impressive. That's not fearlessness, it's pettiness. It's not even amusingly petty, in the way that George Spiggot in Bedazzled (1967) (for example) is.

Falling Down is almost certainly an inspiration for After Life, being about a man with nothing more to lose, but shooting guns and stabbing neo-nazis and stealing a rocket launcher is a lot more reckless and unhinged and interesting than bullying a stressed-out waitress into serving you some fishfingers.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 19, 2021, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 19, 2021, 01:37:30 PMThe idea that staring death in the face gives someone the superpower of being able to do what they want without fear is an interesting one, but the reality of Tony using that "superpower" to... call a small child a cunt is so much less impressive. That's not fearlessness, it's pettiness. It's not even amusingly petty, in the way that George Spiggot in Bedazzled (1967) (for example) is.

Falling Down is almost certainly an inspiration for After Life, being about a man with nothing more to lose, but shooting guns and stabbing neo-nazis and stealing a rocket launcher is a lot more reckless and unhinged and interesting than bullying a stressed-out waitress into serving you some fishfingers.

Yeah it really is absurdly unimaginative.

Also there is the creepy idea that the Gervais character has gained a "superpower" beyond us mere mortals, and the implication that we'd all be calling people fat cunts and nonces if we didn't have to face consequences. Plus the fact he chooses to turn up to his easy job but do as little work as possible because if anyone dares ask him to put some fucking effort in, he'll just go and kill himself. Just don't fucking go into work mate! Oh wait, I forgot, he needs coins for dog food.

Anyway I digress, in summary he really is the kindest man.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 19, 2021, 02:19:36 PM
Maybe in this one he will discover Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Then call Him a nonce and tell Him to fuck off
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 19, 2021, 05:26:38 PM
I know he has said the dog won't die, but I genuinely can't think of what else could happen.

Series 1 had him being mopey and aggressive for every episode and didn't really feel it needed a plot because it was still a "novelty" so he just stomped around for 6 episodes bullying everyone and killing a drug addict and clobbering youths with tin cans but not getting in any bother somehow.

Series 2 had the businessman (in his suit and tie) threatening to close down the free local paper that somehow employs dozens of people, until Tony kindly educated him that it would be a really kind thing to keep that money-pit going where he regularly did fuck all for an apparently decent wage.

Series 3, he decides to master the dark arts and resurrect his wife and causes an apocalypse in Little-Richard-Curtis-on-the-Wold?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on November 20, 2021, 03:29:41 AM
Quote from: frajer on November 19, 2021, 05:26:38 PMI know he has said the dog won't die, but I genuinely can't think of what else could happen.

Keep watching.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: rude soil on December 03, 2021, 05:10:48 PM
New David Brent song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fctMynzMTwg
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on December 03, 2021, 06:44:33 PM
Quote from: rude soil on December 03, 2021, 05:10:48 PMNew David Brent song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fctMynzMTwg
Jesus Christ that is fucking shocking.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ImmaculateClump on December 03, 2021, 06:47:34 PM
Nnnnnh, soul shriveling.
Too cringey for me, dad. Sorry, had to bail about a third of the way in.
Couldn't even be arsed to come up with a catchy tune or noffing. Prick just doesn't care nowadays.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on December 03, 2021, 06:56:51 PM
[Peter Sissons voice]
Jeesus christ
[/Peter Sissons voice]
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on December 03, 2021, 07:01:42 PM
Haha bloody hell that's rotten.

Also the nerve of saying it was written by Ricky Gervais and Andy Burrows when it was clearly autogenerated by a beige robot.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 03, 2021, 07:09:14 PM
From Chortle:

Speaking to The Sun about his new song, Gervais said: 'I'm worried about putting it out because I'm embarrassed as it's a real song.

'I can put out ironic songs as David Brent but I haven't written a serious song in 40 years, so I'm thinking, "What if it's crap?" — but it's not, it's really good.'

'You're worried about the critical reaction more than when you're being stupid, because when you're being stupid and somebody goes, "That's rubbish' you're like, 'I don't give a fuck". If you're being really serious and someone says, "It's rubbish', you go, "Fuck, is it?"'
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on December 03, 2021, 07:15:05 PM
all of the replies on youtube saying how amazing it is...

unbelievable. how did this man create The Office....
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dickie_Anders on December 03, 2021, 11:22:30 PM
His Dad said "we're rich as hell"? Why does he talk like someone out of an American film?

I thought the joke with Brent was that he sings in cliches. His Dad told him "It's hard to fulfil your dreams", "you just need someone to love" and "happiness is more important than money". His Dad speaks like every popular song or film ever made. I hate his Dad. Get an original saying you poor cunt
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 03, 2021, 11:23:07 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 03, 2021, 06:44:33 PMJesus Christ that is fucking shocking.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on December 03, 2021, 11:39:22 PM
the styrofoam grave always make me laugh
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on December 03, 2021, 11:47:13 PM
Holy shit that is wank. The guy who always used to smugly boast about not making your art middle-of-the-road really seems to genuinely believe Derek and this are his best work. I mean... 'I'm thinking, "What if it's crap?" — but it's not, it's really good.' Really good! It's half a fucking song! It dirges along for a bit and then just stops. I'm convinced that everything he's done since Extras has been first-draft-and-done. Polish is for people less innately talented than him.

Love to see Ricky Gervais smile sadly at a child with cancer before a scene where Brian Gittins looms over a bloke in a bath.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:02:11 AM
Bloody hell that's poor. I went into this thinking "it'll be shit" but I had no idea. Incredible.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: selectivememory on December 04, 2021, 12:11:28 AM
Bloody hell, that is atrocious.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on December 04, 2021, 12:26:45 AM
Holy mother of Christ. How can he think that's good? I know we're talking about a man who thinks Derek and After Life are good, but... how?!

I actually think some of the songs he wrote for Brent are pretty good. They're catchy, memorable. That's just a half-arsed sliver of generic, mawkish MOR crap.
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Post by: Noodle Lizard on December 04, 2021, 02:23:41 AM
What on earth? Is that the full song as well? It's not even two minutes long (thankfully).

There also appears to be a line across the top third of the video, but that's the least of its worries.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on December 04, 2021, 03:56:22 AM
This has to be Christmas number one!

Is he doing this so it can be played on the show and he therefore gets more Netflix money for the licensing?
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Post by: chveik on December 04, 2021, 04:33:48 AM
song of the summer
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Post by: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AM
When I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad
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Post by: AllisonSays on December 04, 2021, 09:11:29 AM
I think there's a certain strain of maudlin sentimentality in the English national psyche that exists in a kind of inverse relation to people's actual capacity for empathy, so you get laughing emojis under a news story about migrants drowning in the channel and hundreds of comments underneath this drivel about how it reduced them to tears. It's like Dickens and Oliver Twist.

There's also a bit of a Richard Littlejohn thing where despite being objectively not part of the little England imagined community RG seems able to tickle its udders weirdly effectively, from his fuckin million-pound penthouse in LA or whatever. I wonder how calculated it is.
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Post by: olliebean on December 04, 2021, 09:49:38 AM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on December 04, 2021, 12:26:45 AMHoly mother of Christ. How can he think that's good? I know we're talking about a man who thinks Derek and After Life are good, but... how?!

I actually think some of the songs he wrote for Brent are pretty good. They're catchy, memorable. That's just a half-arsed sliver of generic, mawkish MOR crap.

It's exactly the sort of thing that some of the Brent songs are taking the piss out of, isn't it?
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Post by: batwings on December 04, 2021, 11:29:59 AM
This is the worst thing I've ever seen and I discovered my brother's corpse.
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Post by: MrsWarboysLover on December 04, 2021, 11:58:47 AM
i dont know why, but as I was listening to the song I was thinking "it's not THAT bad" and that people here were overreacting.

for me, the song doesn't hit you over the head with it's awfulness. it's a slow burn, a steady dawning realisation afterwards of everything that's wrong with it, and it just keeps building.
he didn't think any of those lyrics were cringe inducing?
he didn't bother to make the song longer than 2 minutes?
He thought that melody was memorable?
He broke his decades long streak of only ironic songs ... for this?
etc etc

in this sense, this is probably the most subtle thing he's done in decades
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Post by: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:16:44 PM
"Oh and never count your money
just count the lines
round the eyes of your woman
that you made from smiles"

Leaving aside the awful beigeness of the sentiment and the laboured sub-99p Clintons card writing, THIS is the best possible thing that Gervais can create these days? Imagine being given a blank cheque from Netflix and doing this. Fucking hell.

Quote from: AllisonSays on December 04, 2021, 09:11:29 AMThere's also a bit of a Richard Littlejohn thing where despite being objectively not part of the little England imagined community RG seems able to tickle its udders weirdly effectively, from his fuckin million-pound penthouse in LA or whatever. I wonder how calculated it is.

I reckon one feeds the other. It's calculated in that he's realised he can milk this audience for all it's worth, but he is also incapable of making anything better.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 12:21:06 PM
'Your' woman that you made out of smiles?
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:23:33 PM
He also makes several references to "your woman" which feels like a very dated and possessive sentiment.

It's nice that the rickster is churning out stuff that's just bad, rather than tedious. A welcome return to form.
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Post by: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:25:54 PM
Quote from: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 12:21:06 PM'Your' woman that you made out of smiles?

Just double checked in case I was being an accidental massive sexist, but yeah it's 'your woman.'

You could not have engineered a more perfect example of the song that Freelove Freeway was ripping the piss out of if you'd tried. Surely he must know this deep down?
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:25:54 PMJust double checked in case I was being an accidental massive sexist, but yeah it's 'your woman.'

You could not have engineered a more perfect example of the song that Freelove Freeway was ripping the piss out of if you'd tried. Surely he must know this deep down?

At this point, it's more likely he played Freelove Freeway for the writers and when everyone started laughing he claimed it was ironic all along
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Post by: QDRPHNC on December 04, 2021, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:25:54 PMJust double checked in case I was being an accidental massive sexist, but yeah it's 'your woman.'

You could not have engineered a more perfect example of the song that Freelove Freeway was ripping the piss out of if you'd tried. Surely he must know this deep down?

Well no, because he's learned what kindness is. So he's trying to be kind. And you bring all this cynical shit into it, laughing at his lyrics, he's just trying to be kind. When you're being kind, the lyrics and the music and all don't matter, as long they're kind.
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

I tried to find the full lyrics because I can't believe they're as bad as I remember (and I'm not going to watch it again to find out) but apart from an interview with the Mail and the Sun (know your audience eh Rick), there's no online footprint for this.

It's a terrific piece of pablum this, one for the ages. If anyone wants to transcribe the lyrics nows your chance because they're literally unavailable otherwise.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on December 04, 2021, 12:46:55 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on December 04, 2021, 11:58:47 AMhe didn't bother to make the song longer than 2 minutes?

So it can fit in the soundtrack of the show? I'm hoping for an RG original song at the end of every episode.
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 04, 2021, 01:26:47 PM
All that money and he can't afford a rhyming dictionary?

Listening to that made me feel like Declan Donnelly during the average game of Wonky Donkey.
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Post by: Excellent_Biscuits on December 04, 2021, 04:34:44 PM
This series is going to be mainly montages isn't it?
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Post by: mjwilson on December 04, 2021, 06:36:52 PM
I'm sure someone told me it was going to end with him
Spoiler alert
fucking the dog
[close]
but I don't remember who and it doesn't seem like it could be right. Could it?
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 07:15:32 PM
Fine, I'll do it.

If anyone is wondering, the first 2 lines are genuinely the only ones that rhyme. "Dad" and "sad" - why not use "bad" or "mad" too, Rick? Go the whole way. Bolded the failed attempts for your convenience.

A dog's breakfast, but perhaps that is what he was going for because the show has a dog in it? Anyway, here you go:

QuoteWhen I was young, I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad?

He smiled and he said to me, son
We're rich as hell
You'll understand when you
Meet your girl

Chorus
He said I know it's hard
To fulfill your dreams
(Oh) but life comes down
To just three things

You need something to do
And someone to love
(Oh) and something to wish fo-oo-oor

(Oh) and never count your money
Just count the lines
Around the eyes of your woman
That were made from smiles

Middle Eight
If you want to go fast, then go alone
If you want to go fa-aa-ar, go with someone

Chorus (with handclaps)
He said I know it's hard
To fulfill your dreams
(Oh) but life comes down
To just three things

You need something to do
And someone to love
(Oh) and something to wish fo-oo-oor

(Juuuust re-mem-berrrr...)
(Someone to lo-oooo-ooove...)

It's like the "before" sample in a songwriting class and to my ear uses the same F/C/Am/G structure as FreeLove Freeway (with an E7 every so often to mix it up) though I don't care enough to watch it again or get a guitar to check.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 07:30:38 PM
Genuinely thought, and wasn't surprised, that 'Middle eight' was actually one of the lyrics.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 04, 2021, 07:32:16 PM
I hope he has to do a Tommy Wiseau and start pretending it was supposed to be a comedy song all along.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 04, 2021, 07:51:12 PM
I've said before that I think Gervais's writing process for Derek and After Life is to write a piss-take of something mawkish and then try to kick it into sincere shape. It's just all so shallow, inauthentic and (in the case of Derek) hilariously at odds with its own tone at times.

This song has me absolutely convinced of my hypothesis.
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Post by: paruses on December 04, 2021, 07:52:49 PM
All his non-film output since Merchant is trolling of the finest order but this is a bit obvious.

Having said that the sympathy look he gives the cancer / bald child (will need to see the series to confirm which) is excellent. Bit like a psychopath learning how to cry.
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 07:57:31 PM
Bollocks, I should have dashed off an extra verse and asked which one it was.

Missed a trick there.
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Post by: Mr Faineant on December 04, 2021, 10:07:12 PM
Hey Siri, sing a song of pablum.
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 04, 2021, 10:22:25 PM
.
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Post by: frajer on December 04, 2021, 10:25:13 PM
"Dad what are you smiling about? We're POOR."

"Oh piss off and kiss a girl young Ricky, put some lines on her face through smiles. And don't make a saccharine song about this when I'm dead."
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 04, 2021, 10:40:39 PM
Are you sure the lines weren't the result of her being subjected to endless hilarious pranks?
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 04, 2021, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: paruses on December 04, 2021, 07:52:49 PMAll his non-film output since Merchant is trolling of the finest order but this is a bit obvious.

Having said that the sympathy look he gives the cancer / bald child (will need to see the series to confirm which) is excellent. Bit like a psychopath learning how to cry.

"I see you have cancer. My wife had cancer - she idolised me and the way I used to dip my ballsack in her morning porridge everyday. As she rightly recognised, I'm the greatest kindest most kindest greatest man in the world, and she would weep tears of joy whenever she came home to find I'd thrown all of her books in a pond and put bees in her coat pockets. So in a way I am like a hero of cancer, you're welcome."
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 04, 2021, 10:52:42 PM
"I, TOMY, HAVE BEEN HUMBLED TO LEARN THAT A CHILD CAN GET CANCER AND MAY NEVER GROW OLD ENOUGH TO LAUGH AS THEIR HUSBAND LOCKS THEM IN A WARDROBE FULL OF STINGING NETTLES AND FUCKS OFF TO THE BEACH WITH HIS SHIT DOG WHO DIES IN THE LAST EPISODE"
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Post by: trabuch on December 04, 2021, 11:00:58 PM
Christmas number two.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 11:03:59 PM
"Hi kid with cancer, I'm going to come round your house when you're asleep, because I know where you live right, and I'm going to smash your parents' heads with a hammer"
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Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 05, 2021, 04:16:26 AM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on November 20, 2021, 03:29:41 AMKeep watching.

(https://i.imgur.com/HrOiMCs.jpg)
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Post by: SpiderChrist on December 05, 2021, 08:25:02 AM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

That's as far as I made it, 20 or so seconds. You could kind of tell it wasn't going to improve.
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:08:05 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on December 05, 2021, 08:25:02 AMThat's as far as I made it, 20 or so seconds. You could kind of tell it wasn't going to improve.

If anything, it went downhill.
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Post by: QDRPHNC on December 05, 2021, 01:11:30 PM
That must have been nice to for his dad.

"Hey dad, you're really poor. Why aren't you sad? If I was poor like you I'd be sad."
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:17:21 PM
I'll point out that you missed off the question mark which is in the YouTube transcript.

...and that's another thing - what music video has lyrics at the bottom? It's like they were proud and wanted you to witness their incredible lyricism.
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:21:44 PM
"Lines on your woman's face made from smiles" doesn't make sense, does it? Made by smiles, I suppose, maybe? That would take 5 seconds to correct and redraft but nobody in the creative/writing/recording process bothered to think about what they were doing.

No idea why he's so pleased about it all - if you offered me a songwriting credit on this I'd run a mile. I think he's just a shameless self-publicist and at any moment believes completely whatever he's saying. Derke is the best thing I've ever made, I'm proud of having written this song, people definitely wanted that new David Brent film 20 years after the fact.
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Post by: ImmaculateClump on December 05, 2021, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on December 05, 2021, 01:11:30 PM"Hey dad, you're really poor. Why aren't you sad? If I was poor like you I'd be sad."

The is the phone call he's been getting from his son at 3am for the last 15 years.
Manic cackling and then he slams down the receiver.
He phones all his friends from school and his old work colleagues as well, then he turns to his wife and says "I'm leaving it all to the dogs, just so you know. Night, night"
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Post by: TommyTurnips on December 05, 2021, 02:59:40 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:21:44 PM"Lines on your woman's face made from smiles" doesn't make sense, does it? Made by smiles, I suppose, maybe? That would take 5 seconds to correct and redraft but nobody in the creative/writing/recording process bothered to think about what they were doing.

No idea why he's so pleased about it all - if you offered me a songwriting credit on this I'd run a mile. I think he's just a shameless self-publicist and at any moment believes completely whatever he's saying. Derke is the best thing I've ever made, I'm proud of having written this song, people definitely wanted that new David Brent film 20 years after the fact.

I think that nowadays Ricky has enough fame, influence and money that he can sink into his own productions which are essentially just vanity projects that he can buy his way into having complete creative control over. With no one like Steve Merchant around to say things like "um, I don't think it's a good idea to make a show about a kind person and a sex pest in a nursing home, Rick" he can hire a bunch of yes men who will produce and edit his projects without ever questioning his methods. This is how we end up with "lines that were made from smiles" and other hacky shit.
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Post by: Mr Faineant on December 05, 2021, 08:44:44 PM
Perhaps he just likes making money, and thick people like him, will give him their money, and there's fucking loads of them. He can get the coins rolling in with minimal effort...can't blame him really. If I had only bad ideas (I do) and people would pay me for them (they won't), I'd sell too.
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 09:27:22 PM
...but would you go gushing to the Mail about pouring your heart into such the musical equivalent of wood mulch? I think I'd keep my head down, count the cheques, and hope like fuck nobody ever puts 2 and 2 together re: the output being complete shit.
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Post by: idunnosomename on December 05, 2021, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 07:15:32 PMIt's like the "before" sample in a songwriting class and to my ear uses the same F/C/Am/G structure as FreeLove Freeway (with an E7 every so often to mix it up) though I don't care enough to watch it again or get a guitar to check.

it really does sound like some cunt on an acoustic guitar has written it and some poor bod has to give it a big sappy grandiose orchestration. it's definitely got Am-G as the big hook (and it is in C as you guess)
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Post by: H-O-W-L on December 05, 2021, 10:15:47 PM
I think ultimately Gervais is proof that money can buy you everything but quality itself.
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Post by: olliebean on December 06, 2021, 08:19:37 AM
A friend of mine who directs comedy shows once told me about a sketch troupe who would occasionally come up with ideas like, "Let's end this sketch by doing a shit on the stage." His job, he told me, was to say to them, "OK, instead of that, maybe let's work on this other really good idea we had."

That was essentially Merchant's job with Gervais, wasn't it?
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Post by: dead-ced-dead on December 06, 2021, 09:59:25 AM
Quote from: olliebean on Yesterday at 08:19:37 AMA friend of mine who directs comedy shows once told me about a sketch troupe who would occasionally come up with ideas like, "Let's end this sketch by doing a shit on the stage." His job, he told me, was to say to them, "OK, instead of that, maybe let's work on this other really good idea we had."

That was essentially Merchant's job with Gervais, wasn't it?

After Fighting With My Family and The Outlaws, neither of which are perfect but are competently made and have a basic understanding of the basics of screenwriting, it's very apparent this is the case.
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 06, 2021, 10:38:10 AM
It's also very interesting to see the huge gulf between the attitudes to non-white-straight-able-bodied people in their work. Merchant has shown an eagerness to platform diverse casts without drawing attention to it, while Gervais remains obsessed with "ironically" pointing out any difference at exhausting length. It struck me while watching The Outlaws that never in a million years would Gervais have a cast of characters of such varied backgrounds, and actually explore those backgrounds in a sincere way. They would just be there as stock figures for somebody to embarrass themselves in front of. Even the character arc with Darren Boyd is light-years ahead of anything Gervais could manage.
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on December 06, 2021, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 04, 2021, 07:51:12 PMI've said before that I think Gervais's writing process for Derek and After Life is to write a piss-take of something mawkish and then try to kick it into sincere shape. It's just all so shallow, inauthentic and (in the case of Derek) hilariously at odds with its own tone at times.

This song has me absolutely convinced of my hypothesis.
I assume that when he was working on Extras, as well as When The Whistle Blows he actually wrote all these other terrible sitcoms in the expectation he'd use them in Extras series 3 and 4. Then he had a horrible realization.

The "never count the money/count the lines" thing is extraordinary. If you have to spend 2 more lines explaining what you're talking about for the sake of having such a pedestrian antithesis in the first 2 lines, maybe try something else. Count the smiles or tears, I don't know. That sort of thing is classic bad songwriting parody though: get the rhyme first and then spend the rest of the verse trying to make it into a coherent thought.
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Post by: idunnosomename on December 06, 2021, 12:51:06 PM
OF YOUR WO-MANNN

baby BABY
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Post by: Ferris on December 06, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
Just remembered this verse in the shower and had a right good chuckle.

Quote(Oh) and never count your money
Just count the lines
Around the eyes of your woman
That were made from smiles
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Post by: Midas on December 06, 2021, 01:12:35 PM
Bloody hell!
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Post by: Chollis on December 06, 2021, 01:14:46 PM
i can't wrap my head around those lyrics, is it really being played completely straight? i've never watched any After Life.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on December 06, 2021, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

Kier Starmer is screaming at his speech writer for not coming up with this first.
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Post by: Hat FM on December 06, 2021, 01:55:18 PM
i'm not going to put myself through listening to the song but i really hope that this is david brent appearing as a pop star on afterlife.
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Post by: Mr Faineant on December 06, 2021, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 09:27:22 PM...but would you go gushing to the Mail about pouring your heart into such the musical equivalent of wood mulch? I think I'd keep my head down, count the cheques, and hope like fuck nobody ever puts 2 and 2 together re: the output being complete shit.

Yeah there's no accounting for that. He's just a cunt, that's all I can think of.
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Post by: seimaj on December 06, 2021, 05:27:16 PM
Gawd. Minute 01.13 reminds me of the French and Saunders parody of an Abba video, with Dawn as Frida doing the exact same thing.

The staring at the cancer boy is also just.......beyond parody.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 06, 2021, 05:34:58 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad
I hope I'm not the only one who immediately thought of a certain sectarian Rangers song upon hearing those opening lines
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Post by: Noodle Lizard on December 06, 2021, 07:17:58 PM
I'm struggling to think of another song which almost entirely consists of oblique rhymes ("near rhyme" sounds too generous, as they're not even close). It's such a frustrating thing to listen to. It reminds me of when you'd learn a new technique in English Lit and then everyone's next creative writing assignment would just be back-to-back pathetic fallacies or whatever it was. The difference here is that I think it comes from pure laziness more than experimenting with the form.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 06, 2021, 07:19:51 PM
Quote from: seimaj on Yesterday at 05:27:16 PMThe staring at the cancer boy is also just.......beyond parody.

Possibly my favourite bit. Sharing a joke with him maybe, smiling, then serious face, 'ah, he does have cancer though, shame'
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Post by: jobotic on December 06, 2021, 07:49:04 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on Yesterday at 05:34:58 PMI hope I'm not the only one who immediately thought of a certain sectarian Rangers song upon hearing those opening lines

Not quite but I am thinking

My old man
Said be a kindly man
I said fuck off bollocks you're a cunt
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Post by: The Mollusk on December 06, 2021, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Cuellar on Yesterday at 07:19:51 PMPossibly my favourite bit. Sharing a joke with him maybe, smiling, then serious face, 'ah, he does have cancer though, shame'

Sad look down... Brave little smile. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msfIAUDJ8CI)
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Post by: Captain Z on December 06, 2021, 09:44:52 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

And noooooooow
The miracle is mine