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Title: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cursus on July 23, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Oh, dear God. I thought Covid was bad enough:

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwZms2Q/Gerva-life.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on July 23, 2020, 10:09:49 PM
Sadness behind the eyes.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on July 23, 2020, 10:15:16 PM
He's got a decanter there, beneath his awards.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on July 23, 2020, 10:17:46 PM
He'll just have to delete "(First Draft)" and it's good to go. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DrGreggles on July 23, 2020, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Cursus on July 23, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Oh, dear God. I thought Covid was bad enough:

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwZms2Q/Gerva-life.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/53ZsRmd.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on July 23, 2020, 10:45:08 PM
Quote from: Cursus on July 23, 2020, 09:33:21 PM
Oh, dear God. I thought Covid was bad enough:

(https://i.postimg.cc/zDwZms2Q/Gerva-life.jpg)

Wait, has Ricky Gervais won any awards? He never mentions it, or strategically points his camera at them.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on July 23, 2020, 10:47:30 PM
YES!!!!!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: batwings on July 23, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
Never seen After Life. Any good?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dr beat on July 23, 2020, 11:02:41 PM
Quote from: DrGreggles on July 23, 2020, 10:30:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/53ZsRmd.jpg)

We fear change.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on July 23, 2020, 11:25:02 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on July 20, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
It should be said that while Fighting With My Family was a generic and cliche riddled sports/coming of age dramedy, it was a really, really good example of how to make cliches work. It had the right amount of laughs and air punching moments! While it's no classic, it is head and shoulders above After Life.

One thing my partner and I liked about Fighting with My Family was the juxtaposition of flashy Florida and tarmaccy Norwich. Enjoyed it. And an unexpected subject matter from Stephen Merchant. A slightly time-slipped wrestling biopic.

Gervais, meanwhile, continues to stun me. Whenever I see him pontificate for few seconds in an autoplaying Facebook video, positioned as a self-appointed Bertrand Russell of comedy, he reminds me of some of the amateur comics I know. Just the shallowest takes on offense and satire. Hours of drivel delivered with a philosophical air. Desperate to be one of the Incisive, Clever Comics - but one who also wrote Derek. Now there's a juxtaposition.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on July 23, 2020, 11:50:58 PM
Gervais is The Darkness of comedy. In that they were rock music for people who don't really like rock music. Or still are in a desolate fashion.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: evilcommiedictator on July 24, 2020, 12:04:08 AM
His entire house is now covered in his spunk after thinking how many people he's annoyed with that picture
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 24, 2020, 12:05:44 AM
i kinda hope all his awards fall on his silly little black tshirt-clad bod and he is trapped and cant reach his iphone so starves and dies

but then, i am a woke triggered lib snowflake
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on July 24, 2020, 12:09:46 AM
Quote from: evilcommiedictator on July 24, 2020, 12:04:08 AM
His entire house is now covered in his spunk after thinking how many people he's annoyed with that picture

That's one of the ways he reminds me of people I know. One person in particular likes to write inane 'edgy' posts, and then comments underneath 'wonder how many people I'll offend/annoy with this one'.

Invariably it is none.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Lurker on July 24, 2020, 12:34:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TPGMN8C.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 24, 2020, 01:16:30 AM
with everything that's going on, i forgot about that fucking bullshit. cheers
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on July 24, 2020, 01:21:47 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/rM38Skf/Brockman.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 24, 2020, 11:05:54 AM
Got to say I thought Fighting with my Family was pretty rubbish, Hello Ladies was more enjoyable than Gervais has ever done on his own tho tbf.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on July 24, 2020, 12:21:55 PM
at what point next week is season 3 going to be on Netflix then?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 24, 2020, 06:51:50 PM
Double post
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 24, 2020, 07:23:50 PM
Not Derke series 3, not interesteds.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 24, 2020, 08:07:20 PM
(First Draft). Yeah, Rick, as if you're going to put any more work into it than that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on July 24, 2020, 09:00:17 PM
He should be celebrating the end of the final draft, but he's so excited he can't wait the extra day.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on July 24, 2020, 09:33:50 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on July 23, 2020, 11:50:58 PM
Gervais is The Darkness of comedy. In that they were rock music for people who don't really like rock music. Or still are in a desolate fashion.
Gervais referred to The Darkness as the best band going in one of the XFM shows.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hand Solo on July 24, 2020, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: The Lurker on July 24, 2020, 12:34:55 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/TPGMN8C.jpg)

Did nobody send that un-Godliman video to Captain D (https://www.youtube.com/c/CaptainDisillusion/) for further analysis, then?

Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 24, 2020, 08:07:20 PM
(First Draft). Yeah, Rick, as if you're going to put any more work into it than that.

Actually, he needs his top-notch Script Supervisor to look over it and give him those all-important notes before he can hand over the final draft:

(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/2fa/b6d/93cc4b84ab3e4b3387cd6656a01ab015bc-26-clippy.rsquare.w700.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: samadriel on July 25, 2020, 02:31:45 AM
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/2fa/b6d/93cc4b84ab3e4b3387cd6656a01ab015bc-26-clippy.rsquare.w700.jpg)
It looks like you're trying to write maudlin, pandering shite!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 04:31:50 AM
All this is evidence of is that he's managed to type up and print a title page for a script all by himself.

EDIT: actually he might have had help with it for all we know.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on July 25, 2020, 06:38:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/80rRNua.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 25, 2020, 10:32:35 AM
Hahaha. Took me a while to work out what youd replaced the rewards with until I zoomed in
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on July 25, 2020, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on July 25, 2020, 10:32:35 AM
Hahaha. Took me a while to work out what youd replaced the rewards with until I zoomed in
Ah yeah, did a last minute edit to put in some text- thought they might be hard recognise.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on July 25, 2020, 12:06:48 PM
Hahaha christ

Oh for fucks sake that would start a new page wouldn't it may as well just leave the forum
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hand Solo on July 25, 2020, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 04:31:50 AM
All this is evidence of is that he's managed to type up and print a title page for a script all by himself.

I imagine this is what he sent to Netflix to prove he was diligently doing his homework, a title page saying 'first draft' when he's really been drinking wine and abusing Twitter and Youtube funny animal videos all day and written nothing. What, me, Ricky Gervais - with all my awards in the background? How dare you question my ability to write or prove to you I can knock-out a half-arsed script to a deadline - look, here's the title page, with my name - Ricky Gervais - on it and everything. He knows nobody will call him on it. I bet the regular occurrence is he waits until the night before the deadline then writes the whole series in one desperate flurry like at school. If the word count is under he just appropriately fills up the quota with the word cunt.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on July 25, 2020, 01:37:13 PM
I think I might have asked this in the last thread but has he done any singing in this programme yet?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on July 25, 2020, 01:53:37 PM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on July 25, 2020, 01:37:13 PM
I think I might have asked this in the last thread but has he done any singing in this programme yet?

Only "ironically". Like the "ironic" record he put out, with the "ironic" tour with one of the Gallaghers and the "ironic" songbook with chords for people to "ironically" learn the "ironic" music.

...yeah? So... it's ironic. Deffo not serious. So if people don't like it, that's fine.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Seedsy on July 25, 2020, 02:07:24 PM
I actually seccumbed and watched afterlife series 2, genuinely appalling stuff. I'll start with this one tho, the suicide attempt. Saved by the dog, fucking  emotionally manipulative guff. I'd go as far as saying that was the most pointless fucking series ever, nothing changed whatsoever. The first series was passable I have to say, passable Hense why I only watched the second series this week, and I've been fucking shielding for 3 and a half months. First series I thought he did seem like a guy who was living his life like he actually didn't give a flying fuck. He was still a cunt tho to genuinely nice people.

This series Because he took folk out for coffee, and was morbidly depressed instead of modbidly angry.  I can't believe even Gervais, would think this is passable.
I won't even blabber on about the Paul kaye shrink. A turbo shit finchy.
The camp theatre director, just basically a shitter version of bunny from extras.
Is the scruffy inappropriate bloke actually the same scruffy inappropriate bloke from Derek. It's the same character!!
The grave scenes were frankly embarrassing.

Sorry rant over. I'm not on any social media, I've been wanting to vent since I've seen this pile of shit.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 02:20:10 PM
I like to think it's a prequel to Derek. It's the only way it works in my mind.

Angry --> Depressed --> Kind.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 25, 2020, 02:43:58 PM
Is it a good hate watch though.. or just rubbish? First series was just boring and shit and I shouldn't have bothered, would love it if he could hit the heights of Derek again.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on July 25, 2020, 04:31:37 PM
It's not really a good hate watch. Even if you really try. It's just poor quality nothing. When the twitter post was put up on here it occurred to me that there's nothing really memorable about any of it. It took me ages to remember what the ending was. There's loads you can take issue with but it's just not worth it.

Better use of your time would be for man to watch Phone Shop and get on over to that thread.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: Armin Meiwes on July 25, 2020, 02:43:58 PM
Is it a good hate watch though.. or just rubbish? First series was just boring and shit and I shouldn't have bothered, would love it if he could hit the heights of Derek again.

It's so fucking transparent and dull. And it always had Gervais explaining things - some characters are utterly pointless, seemingly only placed in to have a 'scene' in which Gervais is a cunt with them / nice with them (which shows character development). Some characters are grounded and others are cartoonish, so it doesn't work.
One of the characters is called 'The Nonce' because he once had sex with a child-sized Dwarf.

His character is supposed to be an alcoholic - so there's usually a scene in which he's drinking a bottle of red wine. Imagine that! A whole bottle. Sometimes not even a whole bottle.

Derek is better.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wwTgttb.png)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hand Solo on July 25, 2020, 05:06:48 PM
Take that Spike Milligan, having a manic-depressive breakdown while producing an entire script full of innovative concept-defining jokes, vetting it, rehearsing it and performing it to broadcast live within the week, every week. Where are your awards, twitter followers and Netflix deals? You stupid dead cunt.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on July 25, 2020, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:40:00 PMOne of the characters is called 'The Nonce' because he once had sex with a child-sized Dwarf.

Oh for fuck's sake
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on July 25, 2020, 10:39:47 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Derek is better.

Derek is magnificent. It's like a celebrity perfume if the celebrity actually made it
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: paruses on July 25, 2020, 04:31:37 PM
It's not really a good hate watch. Even if you really try. It's just poor quality nothing. When the twitter post was put up on here it occurred to me that there's nothing really memorable about any of it. It took me ages to remember what the ending was. There's loads you can take issue with but it's just not worth it.

That's kind of where I ended up on it. It wasn't as brazenly bizarre and awful as Derek, which really does reach Wiseau-esque levels of incompetency at times - it was just tedious and lazy. I couldn't even pay attention to the second series for more than a few minutes at a time, whereas I think I've watched Derek three times through out of sheer wonderment.

There was a bit of a Red Button/ARG aspect to Derek at the time as well, as the confluence between the activity of Gervais online/in the press vs. the actual quality of the show was every bit as fascinating as actually watching the thing, and it contextualised a lot of the more inane elements therein. Conversely, After Life is exactly what you'd expect it to be: just dull.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 10:53:53 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 25, 2020, 10:30:59 PM
Oh for fuck's sake

Not even kidding.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8398600/characters/nm1502204

Dwarves are funny though in Ricky's world. Because they're small.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 10:54:39 PM
Quote from: phes on July 25, 2020, 10:39:47 PM
Derek is magnificent. It's like a celebrity perfume if the celebrity actually made it

You know, I've only seen a few episodes but I've caught a lot of the magnificent CAB thread. I think I might watch a few tonight to absorb the magic. I have yet to see the grief dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 10:59:18 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 10:54:39 PM
You know, I've only seen a few episodes but I've caught a lot of the magnificent CAB thread. I think I might watch a few tonight to absorb the magic. I have yet to see the grief dog.

I'd highly recommend finding the corresponding discussion for each episode in the thread(s) as you go through it. CaB and Pilkipedia were both delightful during a Derek airing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:01:52 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 10:59:18 PM
I'd highly recommend finding the corresponding discussion for each episode in the thread(s) as you go through it. CaB and Pilkipedia were both delightful during a Derek airing.

I've only just discovered Pilikipedia, but what was the reaction there? Is it a fan-site? If so, I assume it was a favourable response to Derek? Contrasted with our own?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on July 25, 2020, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:01:52 PM
I've only just discovered Pilikipedia, but what was the reaction there? Is it a fan-site? If so, I assume it was a favourable response to Derek? Contrasted with our own?

Definitely not, while they did indeed start as a fan-site for Ricky, Steve and Karl, they gradually began to dislike Ricky more and more once his true arsehole personality started to come to light on Twitter, which (IIRC) was around the time that Life's Too Short came out. By the time Derek aired I'm pretty sure there was an almost universal hatred of him, and the few that did still like him soon waned when his antics on and off the show became too embarrassing.

They still seem to really like Steve and Karl, which is nice.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bronzy on July 25, 2020, 11:05:39 PM
Definitely not, while they did indeed start as a fan-site for Ricky, Steve and Karl, they gradually began to dislike Ricky more and more once his true arsehole personality started to come to light on Twitter, which (IIRC) was around the time that Life's Too Short came out. By the time Derek aired I'm pretty sure there was an almost universal hatred of him, and the few that did still like him soon waned when his antics on and off the show became too embarrassing.

They still seem to really like Steve and Karl, which is nice.

Brilliant. I'll get stuck in soon.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on July 25, 2020, 11:26:06 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:17:48 PM
Brilliant. I'll get stuck in soon.

The best part in the Pilkipedia thread is the initial belief amongst many that it would be far better than LTS, and then the gradual realisation setting it when it first airs.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 25, 2020, 11:37:00 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 11:01:52 PM
I've only just discovered Pilikipedia, but what was the reaction there? Is it a fan-site? If so, I assume it was a favourable response to Derek? Contrasted with our own?

Like Bronzy said, the Pilkipedia reaction was equally vitriolic to CaB's, to the point where the two streams crossed quite often. The fact that Pilkipedia was, ostensibly, a Gervais fansite makes it all the more easy to accept that Derek was, objectively, fucking awful.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Gulftastic on July 29, 2020, 09:43:32 AM
No emmy noms. I bet he's already bitching on Twitter and pretending not to care.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on July 29, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
Haha just had a look and yep! Although it's ok because he did get nominated for one for his golden globes thing so he's not too angry. Don't follow him on Twitter so hardly ever see his tweets but is he legal obliged to say "best fans in the world" at least once a day. EVERY time I've ever clicked on him he's said it within the last 3 or 4 tweets.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 29, 2020, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: Kryton on July 25, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wwTgttb.png)
looks like hes been decapitated
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on July 29, 2020, 12:27:36 PM
Guillotined and yet he writes on. It'd explain his 2010s output.

Severed heads, right. Blinking for hours after the fact yeah? Impressive on paper, sure, but how many Golden Globes have they won? *tries to look at camera but eyes plop out*
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on July 29, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
After Life received no Emmy nominations this year, but don't worry, Are Ricky's not bitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1288156812416557059
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on July 29, 2020, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on July 29, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
After Life received no Emmy nominations this year, but don't worry, Are Ricky's not bitter:

https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1288156812416557059

Boomers are obsessed with pedophiles.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 29, 2020, 01:45:47 PM
I dont understand how he has 14m followers when all he does is retweet cloying praise of his own shows. I supose he could have 28m if he wasnt so annoying
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on July 29, 2020, 01:52:42 PM
Well, Graham Linehan had 600k which has translated into almost 3k youtube subscribers.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 29, 2020, 01:59:04 PM
Apparently I'm blocked by @rickygervais on Twitter? I will no longer get to enjoy the once-every-year viewing of his delightful "jokes" about how good he is.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: SavageHedgehog on July 29, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
Wait, Awards Shows get awarded at other Awards Shows?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on July 29, 2020, 03:56:32 PM
Quote from: SavageHedgehog on July 29, 2020, 03:47:39 PM
Wait, Awards Shows get awarded at other Awards Shows?

There are categories for Variety Shows, which the Golden Globes fall under. These also include charity events and anything or live sketch comedy varieties.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 29, 2020, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on July 29, 2020, 03:56:32 PM
There are categories for Variety Shows, which the Golden Globes fall under. These also include charity events and anything or live sketch comedy varieties.
I was wondering why they don't just give the best awards show Emmy to last year's Emmys, every year.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on July 29, 2020, 05:00:01 PM
"I'm genuinely a bit scared that Ricky could be "suicided", if he keeps speaking the truth"

Absolute shit. His "truth-speaking" is empty, performative guff, half-heartedly repeating things braver people than him have pushed, not because he cares but just because he wants to be seen as an edgy outsider.

God I hope the guy they keep inviting back to host the Golden Globes doesn't get suicided for his dangerous opinions!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on July 29, 2020, 06:13:19 PM
First they murder the opinion, then they murder the man
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on July 29, 2020, 06:29:34 PM
Then they kill his dog >:(
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on July 29, 2020, 07:44:53 PM
I follow the r/conspiracy subreddit (guilty pleasure) and they were all going on about how Gervais was something of a whistleblower who was going to be bodied as well - for making jokes that any twat in a pub who reads the Daily Mail would be able to make.

If only they knew how Derek was more bizarre than any theory they might concoct - and that actually happened!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on July 29, 2020, 07:55:46 PM
Derek would actually make more sense if it turned out to be a way to send coded messages about the actions of the New World Order
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on July 29, 2020, 08:47:28 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on July 29, 2020, 07:55:46 PM
Derek would actually make more sense if it turned out to be a way to send coded messages about the actions of the New World Order

I pity the NWO for having to sit through the whole thing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Annie Labuntur on August 13, 2020, 11:52:54 PM
I've just read an article from a few days ago where Ricky says that the dog Brandy (real name Anti) is likely to retire when Series 3 ends.
Quote from: Ricky GeniusBoth seasons when I was saying goodbye to the crew, when I have to say bye to Anti, that's when I well up because I'm thinking, 'She doesn't know why she's not going to see me for a year'.
Such a strange way to put it, and I don't think he was joking.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on August 14, 2020, 12:07:14 AM
Quote from: Annie Labuntur on August 13, 2020, 11:52:54 PM
I've just read an article from a few days ago where Ricky says that the dog Brandy (real name Anti) is likely to retire when Series 3 ends.Such a strange way to put it, and I don't think he was joking.

So we'll start to see Ricky's character watching endless clips of his dog on his ipad.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Annie Labuntur on August 14, 2020, 12:12:58 AM
He promises in the interview that
Spoiler alert
the dog won't die in series 3
[close]
.

Nothing wrong with him getting upset at the prospect of not seeing the dog for a year - it's that he thinks the dog is confused and upset at the thought of not seeing him for a year. I dunno, maybe it's just me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on August 14, 2020, 03:10:06 PM
That the dog is capable of understanding that it won't see someone for a year. Or what a year is.

Does he really think that or is it just some words that he thinks makes him sound good?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on August 14, 2020, 03:13:40 PM
The dog is going to get suicided by Golden Globes.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mjwilson on August 15, 2020, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: Annie Labuntur on August 14, 2020, 12:12:58 AM
He promises in the interview that
Spoiler alert
the dog won't die in series 3
[close]
.

Nothing wrong with him getting upset at the prospect of not seeing the dog for a year - it's that he thinks the dog is confused and upset at the thought of not seeing him for a year. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I'm with you, it seems narcissistic even for Gervais.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on August 15, 2020, 01:18:59 PM
It's probably thinking "I hope that fat cunt Tony's finally done himself in".
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Post by: Rolf Lundgren on August 15, 2020, 06:53:34 PM
If he's that upset, he can go and visit it. I mean, it's a dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 15, 2020, 07:03:28 PM
But that would ruin his heartwarming story about how much the dog must miss him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on August 15, 2020, 07:04:38 PM
Dog (VO): "This cunt again."
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Post by: Blue Jam on August 15, 2020, 07:28:23 PM
Another whine, but the doggy sound design in this really pisses me off. A dog whine dubbed on whenever Tony is feeling sad. Dogs don't whine that predictably, they're more likely to whine when they're bored, or they're nervous, or when you haven't given them any attention for five whole minutes. When a dog senses a human is feeling sad they'll just nuzzle you or sit on your feet and look after you a bit.

I love dogs. Ricky, stop getting dogs wrong.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 15, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
Ricky presumably knows that, but he doesn't give a shit about verisimilitude. Were such a thing possible, he'd teach the dog to cry on cue.

I've actually got a lot of respect, bordering on envy, for that dog. He neither knows nor cares that he's in a terrible TV show; as far as he's concerned, all he has to do for a few weeks each year is turn up and mooch about with some bloke for a bit. He'll be treated well and his owners will be handsomely rewarded, thus allowing them to buy him lots of nice food and toys.

He's emerged from the whole ordeal with his dignity and wellbeing intact. Good for him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on August 15, 2020, 09:58:28 PM
Quote from: Rolf Lundgren on August 15, 2020, 06:53:34 PM
If he's that upset, he can go and visit it. I mean, it's a dog.

Perhaps the owner won't let him visit because they don't want their dog being locked in a wardrobe or wrapped up with duck tape.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on August 15, 2020, 10:03:47 PM
Dogs also have highly sensitive hearing, which makes the Rickster's laugh a canine war crime.
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Post by: Hand Solo on August 15, 2020, 10:20:45 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 15, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
Ricky presumably knows that, but he doesn't give a shit about verisimilitude. Were such a thing possible, he'd teach the dog to cry on cue.

I doubt it, the chubby funster has only ever had cats, hasn't he? He or Jane obviously don't really like dogs.

I think he only put a dog in because he knows cats wouldn't give a fuck if he was suicidal, and wouldn't simper to him on cue.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: toetoe on September 10, 2020, 12:24:43 PM
QuoteAnswering questions submitted by his followers, and covering topics ranging from hypnosis to television guest appearances, Gervais also revealed that he would be most inclined to revive Derek for a further special, out of all his previous TV series.

The comedy drama, originally broadcast by Channel 4, followed the staff and residents(?) of an old-age care home, focusing on "tender, innocent" care worker Derek Noakes.

He questioned the relevance of a further The Office revival in a post-lockdown, working-from-home world, and dismissed the notion of revisiting "a 60-year-old Andy Millman" from Extras, but explained: "Derek, I could see. I won't do any of them(Ed:Lies, did the Office, but that didn't work), but if I had to choose - if someone put a gun to my head and said 'You've got to do another special' - it would be Derek. Because it's a contained world, it's really sweet, it's ongoing, things don't change and I think I miss him as a character most. So Derek."

https://www.comedy.co.uk/online/news/5931/more-ricky-gervais-shows-on-netflix/
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 10, 2020, 12:32:37 PM
"Things don't change" in the world of Derek.

No shit, it's a cartoon.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: There Be Rumblings on September 10, 2020, 01:43:48 PM
Yes, it's lucky that nothing of note has happened to affect any care homes in, say, the last six months. Just business as usual in their 'contained world'.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on September 10, 2020, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: There Be Rumblings on September 10, 2020, 01:43:48 PM
Yes, it's lucky that nothing of note has happened to affect any care homes in, say, the last six months. Just business as usual in their 'contained world'.

Are you saying that Ricky Gervais, the only celebrity who "tells-it-like-it-is," the Hollywood soothsayer, the only celebrity who hates celebrity lifestyle (despite him talking about/and posing in front of his awards would suggest) is out of touch?
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Post by: Cursus on September 10, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
Quoteit's really sweet, ... and I think I miss him as a character most.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/ad/0e/66ad0ea677d3b650a7725e447e1f3840.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: There Be Rumblings on September 10, 2020, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on September 10, 2020, 03:21:36 PM
Are you saying that Ricky Gervais, the only celebrity who "tells-it-like-it-is," the Hollywood soothsayer, the only celebrity who hates celebrity lifestyle (despite him talking about/and posing in front of his awards would suggest) is out of touch?

The irony is that in a world of Covid there is actually a potentially powerful emotional angle there for the character that he has created. A simple, sweet man with an innocent worldview/ learning difficulties, whose closest friends are all elderly and in care, coming to terms with the way this quiet world has suddenly been turned upside-down, trying in vain to protect his friends while having to deal with a heightened sense of fear, helplessness, loss... in the right hands that could be genuinely involving.

But he won't do that, because it would involve a) awareness, b) effort and c) being able to write.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Thomas on September 10, 2020, 04:32:43 PM
It would also have the character Derek in it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chveik on September 10, 2020, 05:04:10 PM
I really hope he does a special though.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on September 10, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
Kev tells Derek that the only way to cure COVID is to cough in the faces of the residents. Hannah watches on with a wry grin as he bends over and hacks germs onto the face of a nameless elderly woman, who chuckles and thanks him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on September 10, 2020, 07:15:19 PM
Oh fuck please let there be a Derek COVID-19 Special. C'mon Ricky don't be lazy it writes itself.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on September 10, 2020, 07:22:27 PM
Kev switches all the hand sanitiser for vodka and then pranks Derek by telling him you can become immune to COVID-19 if you drink a whole bottle. Much laughter abounds as a fucked-off-his-face Derek stumbles into the caravan at the end of the night and throws up all over Kev's fat girlfriend's big fat gross fat vagina!!!! Urgh god she's so fat it's horrible, I'd be sick as well!!!! Kindness is magic
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on September 11, 2020, 12:14:50 AM
It is revealed in the last 15 minutes of the special that Kev had a talent for building ventilators out of old dildos and butt plugs that he finds in skips. Derek's most favouriteist old person is saved by the marital aid powered miracle. Something about a covid grief dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 11, 2020, 01:47:16 AM
Derek sobs in an empty care home for 45 minutes. Go on, Gervais. Have the balls.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dog Botherer on September 11, 2020, 01:47:28 AM
merchant navy's boat gets riddled with covid, DIED
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on September 11, 2020, 02:01:24 AM
Quote from: Dog Botherer on September 11, 2020, 01:47:28 AM
merchant navy's boat gets riddled with covid, DIED

Think he's a bit too savvy to get involved mate
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 11, 2020, 11:17:51 AM
Why isn't Ricky doing COVID informational films. Derek showing the correct way to interact with relatives through glass windows, that kind of thing? Surely Ricky would be self-important enough to do it if he was asked. Or is he too busy writing?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 11, 2020, 12:14:55 PM
COVID was invented by his bezzie mate Science, so he's secretly fucking loving its rampage across the planet.
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Post by: Dog Botherer on September 11, 2020, 01:44:50 PM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on September 11, 2020, 02:01:24 AM
Think he's a bit too savvy to get involved mate

turns out i didn't actually know what the merchant navy was
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: notjosh on October 01, 2020, 02:10:01 PM
Unprecedented, surely.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjEDRTuXkAYo2IU.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on October 01, 2020, 02:14:36 PM
Ricky is a living life lesson.

You can all the money, all the fame, all the awards, all the sycophants, but it won't make you happy deep down.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on October 01, 2020, 10:57:22 PM
When's this out then?

Given the current situation in itching for another instructional guide from a clueless millionaire bellend about how to feel about learning disabilities or breast cancer
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 22, 2020, 03:49:05 PM
He re-tweeted this from the After Life fans account for some reason. I can't tell if he's being ironic, or trolling, or mad.

(https://i.imgur.com/CGFLntf.png)

https://twitter.com/AfterLife_Fans/status/1339660536947064832

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on December 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
"The most watched British sitcom in the world"?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on December 22, 2020, 04:07:34 PM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on December 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
"The most watched British sitcom in the world"?
Again!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 23, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on December 22, 2020, 03:56:46 PM
"The most watched British sitcom in the world"?

People conveniently forget that loads of shit things are popular when it suits them
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on December 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Bracing myself for another round of colleagues in my new workplace (social care) loving this. I really like my little team and have no interest in being that guy who shits on something they enjoy. Best case scenario is that it's... good (haha) or that someone hates it and I can have secret slagging seshes. Really hope it's topical and that we get three hours of Tony in lockdown taking to himself and bullying people on houseparty
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 23, 2020, 10:06:56 AM
Quote from: phes on December 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Bracing myself for another round of colleagues in my new workplace (social care) loving this. I really like my little team and have no interest in being that guy who shits on something they enjoy. Best case scenario is that it's... good (haha) or that someone hates it and I can have secret slagging seshes. Really hope it's topical and that we get three hours of Tony in lockdown taking to himself and bullying people on houseparty

Did Gervais have any particular stance on Covid? I am only really aware of him these days from mentions on here and if he pops up on something like The One Show and it's on The The One Show Show podcast.

I really hope he had some denier/herd immunity/ so what if people die thing going on because it could be Derek levels of Gold in its execution. Sadly, I think this will just be as dull and self-satisfying as the other attempts.

I forget this even exists; I never forget Derek exists. Please do more like Derek.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on December 23, 2020, 10:43:08 AM
Not sure really, his Twitter stopped being entertaining/fascinating long ago when it properly became marketing. At some point Gervais went so far up his own arse and got so far out of step with the outside world that he ceased to be fascinatingly awful and became boring and irrellevent. Very, very brief toe-dipping into gender stuff around the time that glinner got shitcanned, and his relative quietness on other current stuff suggests to me he's taken advice and probably not going anywhere that could get him cancelled while the money is pouring in.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Utter Shit on December 23, 2020, 10:53:35 AM
Never watched this beyond the first episode as it seemed quite shit, but the outtakes are brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgkafpLSB4k
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ArtParrott on December 23, 2020, 11:24:25 AM
KRIBZ 45
7 months ago
Funniest outtakes ever, definitely up there with the Derek outtakes 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on December 23, 2020, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: phes on December 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Bracing myself for another round of colleagues in my new workplace (social care) loving this. I really like my little team and have no interest in being that guy who shits on something they enjoy.

If the programme's taught us anything, you being the work misery guts will inexplicably result in them saying you're the nicest guy in the world etc. Fill your boots!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on December 23, 2020, 02:02:36 PM
Quote from: paruses on December 23, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
People conveniently forget that loads of shit things are popular when it suits them

How do you measure that, though?

Has Afterlife been seen more  (worldwide) than Monty Python, Fawlty Towers? The original Office, even?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 23, 2020, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: ArtParrott on December 23, 2020, 11:24:25 AM
KRIBZ 45
7 months ago
Funniest outtakes ever, definitely up there with the Derek outtakes 🤣🤣🤣
Absolute desolation.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 23, 2020, 03:51:27 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on December 23, 2020, 02:02:36 PM
How do you measure that, though?

Has Afterlife been seen more  (worldwide) than Monty Python, Fawlty Towers? The original Office, even?

You might be replying to the "most watched in the world" thing rather than my comment - I was just being flippant for the sake of it to say popular doesn't mean good. Green Door was the biggest selling single of 1981, I think. I like This Old House though.

I agree completely though - it's meaningless. It's something to parrot, I suppose. Is often more persuasive than an argument about merits.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: petril on December 23, 2020, 04:18:28 PM
if we're arguing about most watched in the world, then he's never going to beat Carole Hersee and Bubbles, is he?

ul Ricky, still losing hard
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Presumably it's "most watched in the world" not of all time, but just in the particular period when a lot of people were watching it. Most watched of that year, perhaps. (Or maybe even just most watched on Netflix.)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on December 23, 2020, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Presumably it's "most watched in the world" not of all time, but just in the particular period when a lot of people were watching it. Most watched of that year, perhaps. (Or maybe even just most watched on Netflix.)

Even then, it's hard to believe. Must be some pretty creative interpretation of figures going on there.. Perhaps it was the most-watched British sitcom in the world on the day it was released? Nah, even that's hard to believe.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 08:20:28 PM
The source seems to be a twitter fan account called @gervaistrivia which posted that series 1 was the most watched British-made comedy of 2019 (in August 2019). It also posted that Humanity was the most watched stand-up special of 2018, which I find even more difficult to believe (unless they're counting people who, like me, watched the first 10 minutes, thought "fuck this, it's shit," and turned it off).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: all male israel on December 27, 2020, 11:49:16 PM
Quote from: paruses on December 23, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
People conveniently forget that loads of shit things are popular when it suits them
he's the kind of cunt who'd roll out "argumentum ad populum" in an argument about god or something, definitely done it before
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 12:41:06 PM
Replying to criticism with "My bank manager disagrees!" or whatever seems so curiously old-fashioned. Who actually talks to their bank managers these days? It sounds like something a Monty Python or Dad's Army character might say. Also his constant retweeting of @gervaistrivia is fucking weird.

Anyway, I rewatched David Brent: Life On The Road the other day. I always considered that film a bit of a guilty pleasure but now have to admit that it's better than that, I was reminded that it's actually pretty good and I enjoy it in a completely non-ironic way. The David Brent of that film is self-aware and vulnerable and a bit pathetic and you do feel a bit sorry for him. He's a world away from Tony Johnson, the smartarse know-it-all of After Life.

I was also interested to note that it features Nina Sosanya (SugaRape's receptionist in Nathan Barley) in a realistic portrayal of a mental health professional, and that her character is a million miles away from the sleazy and rapey caricature of an unethical therapist played by Paul Kaye in After Life.

I'm struggling to believe it was made in 2016. The gulf in quality between DB:LOTR and After Life is immense. How has Gervais fallen that far that fast?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on December 28, 2020, 12:46:54 PM
Did you also like the way his band mates, who clearly don't like him in the slightest and regard him as an embarrassment all decide what a great bunch of lads he is at the end of the film  FOR NO FUCKING REASON AT ALL?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 12:56:02 PM
I like the way the studio engineer decides he's been a bit harsh on Brent and starts to feel a bit sorry for him. You're right, it's not a great film by any means, it's not a patch on The Office, but I find it a lot more enjoyable that After Life, which is really just lazily-written and a waste of a good cast and just a bit dull. Seeing it was made in 2016 made me wonder if he does still have a decent sitcom in him, and if we'd get to see it if he wasn't surrounded by sycophants and people too scared to give him some constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on December 28, 2020, 01:16:00 PM
Could be something to do with the fact that the foundations of the character were already in place, whereas Gervais coming up with his own from scratch leads us to Derek.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 28, 2020, 01:36:39 PM
Rewatched an episode of Derek the other day. The one where his dog dies. Fuck me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 01:48:13 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on December 28, 2020, 01:16:00 PM
Could be something to do with the fact that the foundations of the character were already in place, whereas Gervais coming up with his own from scratch leads us to Derek.

I was going to say "Yes, plus the fact that he had a co-writer" but it looks like the David Brent film was a solo effort. I think you're right then, he was building on a character that was originally a joint effort and already fully realised.

After Life is jarringly unrealistic at times and Derek is just plain bizarre. Yep, I think you've hit the nail on the head here, it may be that David Brent works because Gervais had Stephen Merchant to reign him in and he then realised he had a winning formula and shouldn't stray too far from it.

It could also be that, even though Gervais is more than a little Brent-like, playing him might feel more like playing a fictional character than playing Tony from After Life, who is essentially Gervais's Twitter persona. I wonder if he's even acting when he's playing Tony. Not only does the character of Tony Johnson look and sound like The Actor Ricky Gervais, he holds all the same beliefs and opinions and even dresses like him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mr. logic on December 28, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
I honestly thought the Brent film was shockingly awful. After Life was possibly better, maybe.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 28, 2020, 02:01:54 PM
I think Gervais should do a new series of Derek where the title character undergoes some procedure that makes him intelligent. 
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 28, 2020, 02:20:41 PM
Quote from: mr. logic on December 28, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
I honestly thought the Brent film was shockingly awful. After Life was possibly better, maybe.
I thought it was largely boring, and then turned shit with the thoroughly unearned 'emotional' ending.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bernice on December 28, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on December 28, 2020, 02:01:54 PM
I think Gervais should do a new series of Derek where the title character undergoes some procedure that makes him intelligent.

flowres for derke
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 03:30:17 PM
Quote from: Bernice on December 28, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
flowres for derke

It's Always Sunny got there first.

Would love to see a Derke Xmas special where Derke prays to God to make him clever then he discovers cures for dementia, alcoholism and being a pervert and helps out all his friends. And then Clever Derke realises there is no God and it was all a dream and he's back where he belongs, with his friends, just the way they were. Kindness is magic.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 28, 2020, 03:32:33 PM
Gervais doing sci-fi would be the worst thing ever wouldn't it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 28, 2020, 03:38:50 PM
Quote from: Bernice on December 28, 2020, 02:35:47 PM
flowres for derke

Actually an Alger-non-starter.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Junket Pumper on December 28, 2020, 10:45:22 PM
I can't stand Gervais or his stand-up so I  haven't seen the routine referenced, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was lazy and transphobic, but is Frankie 'why do people with Downs Syndrome all dress the same' Boyle really in a position to attack other comedians for lazy bigotry?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqVkoQeW4AEKd8b?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lankyguy95 on December 28, 2020, 10:48:01 PM
Has Boyle ever apologised for his bit about Harvey Price wanting to rape his mother?

That's a genuine question.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 28, 2020, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: Junket Pumper on December 28, 2020, 10:45:22 PM
I can't stand Gervais or his stand-up so I  haven't seen the routine referenced, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was lazy and transphobic, but is Frankie 'why do people with Downs Syndrome all dress the same' Boyle really in a position to attack other comedians for lazy bigotry?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqVkoQeW4AEKd8b?format=jpg&name=small)

Which Sun-columnist Boyle defended by saying he wrote the joke with a friend who has brittle bone disease - yes, really.

Let's not forget 'Why are they called Sunshine Variety coaches when all the kids on them look the fucking same?'  That one was Jimmy Carr, the tax-shy automaton who socialises with Princess Beatrice and went on holiday with her to the Caribbean.

Too many left-wing comedians, yeah.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:26:20 AM
Quote from: Junket Pumper on December 28, 2020, 10:45:22 PM
I can't stand Gervais or his stand-up so I  haven't seen the routine referenced, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was lazy and transphobic, but is Frankie 'why do people with Downs Syndrome all dress the same' Boyle really in a position to attack other comedians for lazy bigotry?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqVkoQeW4AEKd8b?format=jpg&name=small)

Yes, I can't see how Boyle could possibly justify this if it was put to him. You either accept - as Gervais does and as I thought Boyle did - that you can make jokes about EVERYTHING or you don't. You can't pick and choose, and you certainly can't start moralising about other comedians' decisions. Apparently this was on Louis Theroux's podcast. I wonder if Louis put this obvious point to him. It's disappointing because I fund Frankie Boyle funny. I'd find him less funny if there was some sort of dreary moralising hypocrite under the surface.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: madhair60 on December 29, 2020, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:26:20 AM
You either accept - as Gervais does and as I thought Boyle did - that you can make jokes about EVERYTHING or you don't.

Eh? Hang on, eh, mate? Hang on. Making jokes about some things, but not others - there's a massive spectrum there. For example, you can make jokes about say, nine things, but say there's a couple of things that are just a bit hmm, dunno. Or what if the jokes are bad, like all of Ricky's? What then?

Slippery slope, this making jokes about everything lark. Should we all not just agree that you probably shouldn't make jokes about everything? That seems the most reasonable way forward.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on December 29, 2020, 12:32:23 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:26:20 AM
Yes, I can't see how Boyle could possibly justify this if it was put to him. You either accept - as Gervais does and as I thought Boyle did - that you can make jokes about EVERYTHING or you don't. You can't pick and choose, and you certainly can't start moralising about other comedians' decisions. Apparently this was on Louis Theroux's podcast. I wonder if Louis put this obvious point to him. It's disappointing because I fund Frankie Boyle funny. I'd find him less funny if there was some sort of dreary moralising hypocrite under the surface.

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:46:29 AM
Quote from: madhair60 on December 29, 2020, 12:30:24 AM
Eh? Hang on, eh, mate? Hang on. Making jokes about some things, but not others - there's a massive spectrum there. For example, you can make jokes about say, nine things, but say there's a couple of things that are just a bit hmm, dunno. Or what if the jokes are bad, like all of Ricky's? What then?

Slippery slope, this making jokes about everything lark. Should we all not just agree that you probably shouldn't make jokes about everything? That seems the most reasonable way forward.

You make good points. I withdraw.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 29, 2020, 12:52:34 AM
Quote from: Bronzy on December 29, 2020, 12:32:23 AM
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Bringo!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on December 29, 2020, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on December 28, 2020, 11:36:33 PM
Which Sun-columnist Boyle defended by saying he wrote the joke with a friend who has brittle bone disease - yes, really.

Let's not forget 'Why are they called Sunshine Variety coaches when all the kids on them look the fucking same?'  That one was Jimmy Carr, the tax-shy automaton who socialises with Princess Beatrice and went on holiday with her to the Caribbean.

Too many left-wing comedians, yeah.

A few years ago a member of my family actually apologised to me for having a Jimmy Carr DVD in their house. But why should I give a toss? I'm not offended. The only thing that bugs me are that most disability/ginger hair/Scotland 'jokes' that people make are absolutely fucking shit. And I've put the word jokes in inverted commas because they usually are just insults. That's all. No punchline, nothing unexpected. Just insults.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on December 29, 2020, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship

twonks n gorps innit. it's exactly what he did, hard, for about a decade. just don't even go there
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on December 29, 2020, 11:35:00 AM
5 minutes on James Dreyfus's Twitter is a headspin. Seems to be on it a lot.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neardark on December 29, 2020, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on December 29, 2020, 11:35:00 AM
5 minutes on James Dreyfus's Twitter is a headspin. Seems to be on it a lot.

And the first words on his Twitter bio are "No cultism." You couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 01:11:26 PM
Boyle is in absolutely no position to criticise Gervais for using oppressed minorities as struts for cruel one-liners. Both have form in spinning lofty justifications for these sorts of jokes offstage, whilst conveniently ignoring the possibility that, more often than not, they aren't stirring their audience into social-satirical insight, but are simply gratifying a repressed desire to bully. And that's making what I consider to be a generous assumption that they don't just concoct these liner notes after the fact.1. That said, on the specific issue of transphobia, Gervais's offstage justification - that there's a coterie of predatory men using acceptance of trans people as a means of accessing women-only spaces - is itself a transphobic talking point. So on this specific issue, I think Boyle doesn't come across as a total hypocrite.

1I find it very hard to believe, for example, that Boyle's infamous Harvey Price joke was based, per the claim he gave in a broadsheet interview, on a righteous distaste for her using her son as part of her media brand, a state of affairs that strikes me as 1) inevident 2) not worth commenting on even if true and 3) not captured in the joke, subtext or otherwise.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phil_A on December 29, 2020, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship

Yes, it's utterly bizarre and it's been going on for years. Criticise any aspect of Gervais almost anywhere with an open comments section and an army of defensive fanboys will materialise from nowhere and immediately pile on to defend their God King, guaranteed.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kankurette on December 29, 2020, 01:50:35 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 01:11:26 PM
Boyle is in absolutely no position to criticise Gervais for using oppressed minorities as struts for cruel one-liners. Both have form in spinning lofty justifications for these sorts of jokes offstage, whilst conveniently ignoring the possibility that, more often than not, they aren't stirring their audience into social-satirical insight, but are simply gratifying a repressed desire to bully. And that's making what I consider to be a generous assumption that they don't just concoct these liner notes after the fact.1. That said, on the specific issue of transphobia, Gervais's offstage justification - that there's a coterie of predatory men using acceptance of trans people as a means of accessing women-only spaces - is itself a transphobic talking point. So on this specific issue, I think Boyle doesn't come across as a total hypocrite.

1I find it very hard to believe, for example, that Boyle's infamous Harvey Price joke was based, per the claim he gave in a broadsheet interview, on a righteous distaste for her using her son as part of her media brand, a state of affairs that strikes me as 1) inevident 2) not worth commenting on even if true and 3) not captured in the joke, subtext or otherwise.
Yeah, Gervais is a douchebag and he does have a lazy sense of humour, but Boyle isn't exactly great either.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Jockice on December 29, 2020, 09:19:59 AMThe only thing that bugs me are that most disability/ginger hair/Scotland 'jokes' that people make are absolutely fucking shit. And I've put the word jokes in inverted commas because they usually are just insults. That's all. No punchline, nothing unexpected. Just insults.

Ditto for all the Welsh "jokes" I've heard. Growing up on farms, having no electricity or running water, shagging sheep etc. They're not actually jokes, just lazy and insulting stereotypes.

Incidentally I watched the Christmas episode of House Of Fools on Christmas Day, the one with Reece Sheersmith as the racist Santa who chooses presents according to national stereotypes- ie, bringing pistols, ponchos and sombreros to children in Mexico. I thought that worked, a load of lazy stereotypes that made the racist the butt of the joke. Come to think of it it's like that famous scene in Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=brNiTo_TbeQ) where Terry comes out with an insulting stereotype for every nation and can only think of "pornographic" for Denmark. Of course Bob is calling him out on it and the joke's on Terry because he's making himself look ignorant (and a bit of a perv).

I guess national stereotypes can work in jokes when the humour is punching up at the person making them, then.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
I remember when The Beastie Boys were on the same bill as The Prodigy at a festival and requested that they didn't play Smack My Bitch Up because it was offensive to women. The Prodigy told them to fuck off, and a number of journalists opined that it was a bit rich of them to accuse anyone of sexism when they used to write misogynistic lyrics and say misogynistic things in interviews and have go-go dancers on stage. Their response to that was essentially "But we were young then". Of course they were then called out for not giving The Prodge the benefit of the doubt Re: age.

Is Boyle really a hypocrite? Is it not possible for a person to make mistakes and reflect on them and grow up anymore?

Mind you if the older, wiser, woker Frankie Boyle is still writing for The S*n he can fuck right off.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Junket Pumper on December 29, 2020, 02:33:09 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
I remember when The Beastie Boys were on the same bill as The Prodigy at a festival and requested that they didn't play Smack My Bitch Up because it was offensive to women. The Prodigy told them to fuck off, and a number of journalists opined that it was a bit rich of them to accuse anyone of sexism when they used to write misogynistic lyrics and say misogynistic things in interviews and have go-go dancers on stage. Their response to that was essentially "But we were young then". Of course they were then called out for not giving The Prodge the benefit of the doubt Re: age.

Is Boyle really a hypocrite? Is it not possible for a person to make mistakes and reflect on them and grow up anymore?

Mind you if the older, wiser, woker Frankie Boyle is still writing for The S*n he can fuck right off.

It is possible for someone to grow and change but has Boyle openly reflected and spoke about this? He's never said sorry for any of his more offensive material, so I don't believe he's gone on the journey you're claiming.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:17:01 PMIs it not possible for a person to make mistakes and reflect on them and grow up anymore?
Absolutely, but Boyle says in the same session with Theroux that he doesn't regret any of his jokes beyond the finer points of delivery. If he did a Sarah Silverman and said "the jokes I told were bad and the justifications I came up with to protect my progressive credentials were, in retrospect, defensively contrived" then accusations of hypocrisy would be weak. But he doesn't do that, and repeats the the same sentiment he's been spouting for years, namely that it's intellectually dishonest to isolate a gag from a stand-up routine and interrogate it outside of that context. And yet that's exactly what he does with Gervais's Caitlyn Jenner bit. The fact that his assessment of Gervais's transphobia is on the money doesn't change that this is "do as I say, not as I do".
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on December 29, 2020, 02:42:28 PM
" Tramadol Nights" was 10 years ago, but  the Sadowitz- snaffling nauseating aftertaste of that abomination of a show, with its up to date , cutting edge " What If Yer Man From " Knight Rider" was actually just some mentally ill feller? " references still remain. The stuff he writes for " The Guardian" can occasionally be amusing, but all too often comes across as try- too-hard Ersatz Brookerese.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:45:01 PM
I was asking rhetorical questions there, not making excuses for him, just to be clear.

I think there are genuine cases where someone has done offensive things when they were young and stupid and later shown genuine remorse and regret, and I'm not a big fan of people dredging up old tweets a person sent when they were 12 (for example) or looking for any excuse to accuse someone of hypocrisy. I'm not sure about Boyle though- I think he may have apologised for the Rebecca Adlington joke but that's it. I do enjoy a lot of his work but I'm no apologist for his earlier stuff.

Also I did find it very funny when he tried to call out Andrew Lawrence on Twitter during that time he went a bit UKIP, and Lawrence just replied with a mention of the Rebecca Adlington joke and Boyle had no comeback. Lawrence totally owned him there, I had to admit.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: pigamus on December 29, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
Quote from: Junket Pumper on December 29, 2020, 02:33:09 PM
It is possible for someone to grow and change but has Boyle openly reflected and spoke about this? He's never said sorry for any of his more offensive material, so I don't believe he's gone on the journey you're claiming.

It always seemed to me a bit "I'm sorry if you feel you were upset"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on December 29, 2020, 02:51:44 PM
If the lad himself is reading this, I'd be happy to propose a toast to him at this time of goodwill to all men, by raising a glass of fine, Malt Whiskey, or can of Special Brew or worrever to his good self, with a festive " Cheers"!

Go on, Frankie, have a drink- it's Christmas!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: pigamus on December 29, 2020, 02:53:42 PM
I don't agree about his Guardian articles though. I thought they were superb.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
This one:

https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/527110826868875264

Looks like Boyle deleted the original tweet. Still no comeback.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
Just because someone is a hypocrite does not mean they are wrong. It would be good for Boyle to have a Damascene conversion about taking the piss out of handicapped kids; for instance Matt Lucas has distanced himself from the punching down he used to do. However, Boyle does not seem to make edgelordy jokes any more and hasn't for years. It might be hard for some people to distance themselves from the dumb things they said 15 years ago, they might not want to seem weak.

James Dreyfus is merely a hardcore transphobe, hence his adamant support of fellow traveller Gervais. Who similarly made jokes about handicapped kids and is surely just as bad as Boyle ever was in this regard. James Dreyfus also called child-rape funder Chris Langham a genius (https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/481589668744798208).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Junket Pumper on December 29, 2020, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:55:35 PM
This one:

https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/527110826868875264

Looks like Boyle deleted the original tweet. Still no comeback.

Twitter says Boyle has 607 tweets, which means he's used a a tweet deleter that gets rid of everything at once, so it's not like he's deleted those tweets manually. I wonder if he's worried some of his dodgier tweets will be brought up to use against him
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 03:05:50 PM
Bit like Katie Hopkins deleting all her old tweets before Twitter saved her the bother of deleting the newer ones, then...

Quote from: pigamus on December 29, 2020, 02:53:42 PM
I don't agree about his Guardian articles though. I thought they were superb.

Yes, they're great. His autobiography, My Shit Life So Far is also good, though I got it as a Kindle edition bundled with another of his books and couldn't get into that one. I think it was Scotland's Jesus, great title but the content was a bit ranty, a tad Clarkson.

Also that BBC tour of Scotland series he did this year was good. I like some bits of his stand-up while disliking other bits of his stand-up.

I guess I'm saying I can still separate the art from the artist in his case. He's not quite up there with Kevin Spacey or Glinner.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 29, 2020, 03:19:01 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
Just because someone is a hypocrite does not mean they are wrong.
This is true, but it's also the case that progressive messages are more compelling when espoused by people who lead by example. On this issue specifically, Boyle making an exception to his "context is everything in standup" principle to criticise Gervais's transphobic jokes is currently being used as evidence for the perverse claim that trans people, and trans women especially, get special treatment. As call-outs go, I'd rather Boyle had kept his trap shut on this one.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on December 29, 2020, 04:22:01 PM
The Gervais defenders on Twitter seem to be taking two lines of defence, namely that A: Gervais is lovely and compassionate unlike the hateful Boyle, and his jokes are all in support of kindness and empathy, but also B: Gervais is a no-shits-given offensive comic, unlike the cowardly woke Boyle, and he doesn't give a fuck whose feelings he hurts, because he's brilliant and edgy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Zetetic on December 29, 2020, 04:34:54 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
James Dreyfus also called child-rape funder Chris Langham a genius (https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/481589668744798208).
For context, "a genius performer" rather than as a comment on paying for child abuse imagery.

Posh Nosh was a massive source of comfort at one point in my life and for various reasons I have some affection for Black Pond, yet at the same time I'm not in favour of supporting the abuse of children.

There's enough to tackle these people on without trying to find something in every utterance - perhaps particularly when the contents of those utterance is largely harmless and yet their performance is intended to outrage or upset, since that's clearly a deliberate trap to 1) garner engagement and 2) portray opposition to their actually hateful nonsense as deranged.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sonny_Jim on December 29, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
Boyle is a hypocrite.

Gervais made a very lazy attack helicopter joke in 2018.

Both of these can be true at the same time and simply repeating 'yer, but what about....' isn't the rock solid defense of Gervais his fans think it is.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on December 29, 2020, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:25:54 PM
I remember when The Beastie Boys were on the same bill as The Prodigy at a festival and requested that they didn't play Smack My Bitch Up because it was offensive to women. The Prodigy told them to fuck off, and a number of journalists opined that it was a bit rich of them to accuse anyone of sexism when they used to write misogynistic lyrics and say misogynistic things in interviews and have go-go dancers on stage. Their response to that was essentially "But we were young then". Of course they were then called out for not giving The Prodge the benefit of the doubt Re: age.

One of the many reasons I think The Beastie Boys are wankers. I'm not even a fan of The Prodigy but I just thought 'how fucking dare you?'

Motes in your own eye and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 29, 2020, 10:31:10 PM
Here's an interview Boyle did with Richard Osman in 2014 where he talks about the Price joke and controversial humour in general. Osman (who I'm not a fan of usually) takes him to task about it quite well and I'm not impressed by Boyle's justifications.

https://youtu.be/0MRz9RPlsDQ?t=324
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on December 29, 2020, 10:41:18 PM
Boyle's just as much of a cunt as he's always been. I saw one of his whatever it's called programmes and it was tedious beyond belief. Reactionary views and guests who are there to go "oh my God, did you really say that?" at his sub-Brooker lines.

But he's right about Gervais. It's Piers Morgan and a government minister.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:04:11 AM
Quote from: Blue Jam on December 29, 2020, 02:45:01 PM


Also I did find it very funny when he tried to call out Andrew Lawrence on Twitter during that time he went a bit UKIP, and Lawrence just replied with a mention of the Rebecca Adlington joke and Boyle had no comeback. Lawrence totally owned him there, I had to admit.

That seems to me to be the salient point. We have free speech in this country so people can joke about whatever they like and people can, in turn, choose to listen or not listen. But if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:10:14 AM
Quote from: JaDanketies on December 29, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
Boyle does not seem to make edgelordy jokes any more

Well he certainly was on his New World Order programme a few weeks ago. Accompanied by the trademark shots of his fellow comedians laughing hysterically and doing faces that say, "Oooh Frankie, you didn't go THERE did you? Oh Frankie! WHAT ARE YOU LIKE?!"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: trabuch on December 30, 2020, 01:24:34 AM
Ricky Gervais
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sonny_Jim on December 30, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
QuoteBut if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about
So Boyle isn't allowed to criticise Gervais because he's a hypocrite?

Also it's not really a double standard, is it?  One joke affects a solitary person, whereas the other targets a minority.  But yeah, something about Ricky punching down and Boyle punching up.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dog Botherer on December 30, 2020, 04:30:23 AM
they're both shit cunts but i will give Boyle credit for at least sometimes being funny
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on December 30, 2020, 07:59:35 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:04:11 AM
That seems to me to be the salient point. We have free speech in this country so people can joke about whatever they like and people can, in turn, choose to listen or not listen. But if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about.

Reminds me of a bloke I used to work with. The first conversation I had with him on his first day (I happened to go up to the office in the goods lift at the same time as him) was about whether I was 'politically correct.' It was clear that he saw himself as some sort of loose-lipped verbal gunslinger and indeed he did do all the racist, sexist, disablist stuff, always with a veil of 'irony.'

Then one day I said something offhand about a subject he obviously didn't think was a laughing matter (not saying what it is and I didn't know this at the time but it turned out to be something that had affected his family) and his face fell. I swear I could see tears forming in his eyes and he immediately turned round and walked out of the room. Aw come on mate, I was only having a laugh there. Can't you take a joke? Etc.

PS, I think Jerry Sadowitz is about a million times better than Boyle, Gervais and Carr all put together. In a mincer.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on December 30, 2020, 09:03:27 AM
Quote from: Menu on December 30, 2020, 01:04:11 AM
That seems to me to be the salient point. We have free speech in this country so people can joke about whatever they like and people can, in turn, choose to listen or not listen. But if you are going to make a career out of doing those kinds of jokes you can't then criticise someone else for doing one about an issue you happen to care about.

Well, of course you can, as that's also free speech. And people are then, in turn, free to point out your hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on December 30, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on December 30, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
Also it's not really a double standard, is it?  One joke affects a solitary person, whereas the other targets a minority.
Oh, come on. The Harvey Price bit was a patchwork of ableist slurs. To the extent broadcasting that sort of thing "affects" anyone, I fail to see how attaching the routine to specific people mitigates the content. He even says in some poorly thought-out attempt to justify the material in that interview with Richard Osman that he handpicked characteristics that aren't actually associated with Harvey Price's specific conditions.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ajsmith2 on December 30, 2020, 09:50:38 AM
Boyle is a hypocrite who cynically deployed edgy humour to advance his career when it was expedient (and more socially acceptable) to do so, but he does seem like a real flawed human being, whereas Gervais comes across as an insane megalomaniacal psychopath leading an army of possessed gaslighting radicals, so I'm still on team Boyle for this one.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on December 30, 2020, 10:29:10 AM
Quote from: neardark on December 29, 2020, 11:07:05 AM
The amount of people on Twitter leaping to Ricky's defence is staggering. Comments like this:

https://twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1343634363892817920?s=19

Feels like he's brainwashed half his followers into blind, cult-like worship
hahaha "the tower of Babylon"

James Dreyfus is a fucking gullible idiot. Him weirdly praising Chris Langham is also incredible. Yes Chris was a great performer but saying that to him like evaporates the consequences of his behaviour as if his criminal conviction doesnt matter because he is a good comedy man
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ornlu on December 30, 2020, 10:45:01 AM
Quote from: olliebean on December 30, 2020, 09:03:27 AM
Well, of course you can, as that's also free speech. And people are then, in turn, free to point out your hypocrisy.

I can't stand it when people do this. It always spoils the joke.

And for what? It never seems to top it with a better joke - instead it's always just low-effort 'gotcha' shit. A child's "ommm, I'm telling". Who the fuck gets any enjoyment from reading that?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JaDanketies on December 30, 2020, 10:51:14 AM
The GC goons on Twitter must have some severe cognitive dissonance when they deny being transphobic. But whenever anyone condemns transphobia, they leap to its defence. It's like when Sainsbury's said "no racists in our store please," and definitely-not-racist Lawrence Fox said "fuck you, I'm never going in one again if you don't want me."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:19:25 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on December 30, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
So Boyle isn't allowed to criticise Gervais because he's a hypocrite?

Also it's not really a double standard, is it?  One joke affects a solitary person, whereas the other targets a minority.  But yeah, something about Ricky punching down and Boyle punching up.

Of course it's a double standard. The individual concerned was a disabled child. That's bad enough but imagine all the other disabled kids whose lives were made worse because of the joke.

Its hard for me because my brother is disabled and very vulnerable but, on balance, I think we should, for reasons of free speech, be allowed to make jokes about anything. Nobody is forced to hear them. And that's where I presumed Frankie stood on the matter. Fair enough. But, no. He says there actually is a line you can't cross and it happens to be wherever he arbitrarily draws it. Forgive me, but that is hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:20:07 AM
Quote from: Jockice on December 30, 2020, 07:59:35 AM
Reminds me of a bloke I used to work with. The first conversation I had with him on his first day (I happened to go up to the office in the goods lift at the same time as him) was about whether I was 'politically correct.' It was clear that he saw himself as some sort of loose-lipped verbal gunslinger and indeed he did do all the racist, sexist, disablist stuff, always with a veil of 'irony.'

Then one day I said something offhand about a subject he obviously didn't think was a laughing matter (not saying what it is and I didn't know this at the time but it turned out to be something that had affected his family) and his face fell. I swear I could see tears forming in his eyes and he immediately turned round and walked out of the room. Aw come on mate, I was only having a laugh there. Can't you take a joke? Etc.


This is exactly it. I suspect we've all met people like this.
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Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:21:16 AM
Quote from: olliebean on December 30, 2020, 09:03:27 AM
Well, of course you can, as that's also free speech. And people are then, in turn, free to point out your hypocrisy.

Great. Thanks for summarising the discussion.
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Post by: Menu on December 31, 2020, 02:23:16 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 30, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
Oh, come on. The Harvey Price bit was a patchwork of ableist slurs. To the extent broadcasting that sort of thing "affects" anyone, I fail to see how attaching the routine to specific people mitigates the content. He even says in some poorly thought-out attempt to justify the material in that interview with Richard Osman that he handpicked characteristics that aren't actually associated with Harvey Price's specific conditions.

Ha! Worst excuse ever.
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Post by: Bazooka on December 31, 2020, 08:44:32 AM
You don't have to be a genius to know he is a coward and decided to mock a disabled child who had a celebrity mother which made Harvey Price free game, he knew this gave him the security to make the joke. I don't know why he didn't do impressions of him being blind.
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 08:51:11 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 30, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
he handpicked characteristics that aren't actually associated with Harvey Price's specific conditions.

Being a tendency to rape, as that's what the joke was about, or was it part of a longer sequence?
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Post by: Jockice on December 31, 2020, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 08:51:11 AM
Being a tendency to rape, as that's what the joke was about, or was it part of a longer sequence?

Yeah, but all disableds have that tendency. Which is somehow crossed with asexuality. We're weird us lot. Best avoided.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 31, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 08:51:11 AM
Being a tendency to rape, as that's what the joke was about, or was it part of a longer sequence?
Handpicked a characteristic then, but yes. He said Harvey Price's autism would make it more likely that he would avoid physical contact with other people. ETA and just to be clear, I don't think "tendency to rape" is a characteristic of any disability, Boyle's joke is obviously playing into the wider trope of learning disabled people being Of Mice and Men style brutes who can't control their impulses.
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2020, 09:54:19 AM
I think it would be funny to joke about Harvey Price falling on top of Frankie's face and not getting up for a long time.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 31, 2020, 02:11:40 PM
Shallow side note , but something about Boyle's voice in a discussion puts me on edge. He always sounds to me like he's talking through gritted teeth and might lamp the person he's chatting with if they say the wrong thing.
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Post by: Sonny_Jim on December 31, 2020, 03:13:04 PM
I thought he sounded rather posh and limp wristed in that recent Louis interview.
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Post by: neveragain on January 01, 2021, 01:06:28 AM
I thought he sounded rather deep and nasally, and prone to summing situations up based on thoughts that occurred to him when leaving a certain area.
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Post by: scarecrow on January 01, 2021, 12:04:31 PM
In his recent interview with Ash Sarkar, Boyle described his older persons as 'nihilistic'. I don't like any of his material - and agree that it was catnip for bullies - but fair enough. He doesn't have to hide behind explanations for it. Contrast with Gervais who's all about explaining his comedy, to the point that the material is an afterthought.

I think Boyle really does see that the trans routine is rotten and lazy, but his main attack line - that Gervais chooses to identify as a stand up comedian - suggests that his issue is with Gervais's charlatanism more than anything else. I reckon Boyle thinks it's okay to say whatever hateful shit you want so long as you've paid your dues on the circuit.
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Post by: olliebean on January 01, 2021, 10:31:29 PM
Quote from: olliebean on December 23, 2020, 05:44:42 PM
Presumably it's "most watched in the world" not of all time, but just in the particular period when a lot of people were watching it. Most watched of that year, perhaps. (Or maybe even just most watched on Netflix.)

Seeing that the most watched new British comedy of 2020 was the Blankety Blank special with Bradley Walsh made me think about this again: Netflix doesn't release its viewing figures, so "most watched in the world" wrt a Netflix show could only possibly refer to most watched on Netflix according to Netflix's own charts.
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Post by: Bronzy on January 06, 2021, 03:33:18 PM
https://twitter.com/officialgham/status/1346545306142453768?s=21
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Post by: phes on May 03, 2021, 08:21:28 PM
dropping by to ring the bell - Ricky has confirmed that afterlife 3 might be 'his best work yet'!
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Post by: Gulftastic on May 03, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
Quote from: phes on May 03, 2021, 08:21:28 PM
dropping by to ring the bell - Ricky has confirmed that afterlife 3 might be 'his best work yet'!

It's nice that he helps his echo chamber with their tweeting. Sycophancy can be taxing.
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Post by: Blue Jam on May 03, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1389265466481385475

"Absolutely Mental". Ooooh, edgy!

Ham Sarris as well, two of the Four Horsemen of Atheism right there. Urrrrgggghh.
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Post by: JaDanketies on May 03, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
PZ Myers has some good blogs about how disappointing nu-atheism was in retrospect

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2019/01/25/the-train-wreck-that-was-the-new-atheism/
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 03, 2021, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 03, 2021, 08:50:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1389265466481385475

"Absolutely Mental". Ooooh, edgy!

Ham Sarris as well, two of the Four Horsemen of Atheism right there. Urrrrgggghh.

His fans are such twerps.

(https://i.imgur.com/nC0dB9t.png)
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Post by: ImmaculateClump on May 03, 2021, 10:37:13 PM
He should ask for his money back.
Why Paddy Mcaloon cosplay as gandalf the white now?

I hope this one's a bit more fruitbat. Series 2 was such an airy fart.
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Post by: Ferris on May 03, 2021, 10:37:59 PM
Quote from: phes on May 03, 2021, 08:21:28 PM
dropping by to ring the bell - Ricky has confirmed that afterlife 3 might be 'his best work yet'!

First the pandemic, now this.
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 03, 2021, 11:00:50 PM
Quote from: ImmaculateClump on May 03, 2021, 10:37:13 PM
Why Paddy Mcaloon cosplay as gandalf the white now?
Wye on Hay?

(https://i.imgur.com/7bgv8sO.png)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on May 03, 2021, 11:09:06 PM
Quote from: ImmaculateClump on May 03, 2021, 10:37:13 PM

I hope this one's a bit more fruitbat. Series 2 was such an airy fart.

Last one was just dull, predictable, and inoffensive. Want either 100% more fruitbat or 100% more of the Phoneshop guys[nb]so, a new series of Phoneshop[/nb].

Writing that reminded me that Paul Kaye was in this and terrible (or more working with terrible material). I wonder if he still needs/wants the money enough for this series.

Amazed, though, that it's taken Gervais this long to change the words on the cover sheet to Final Version
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Post by: bgmnts on May 03, 2021, 11:11:30 PM
If we were to write 'Ricky Gervais's After Extras' it would just be a picture of Derek throwing a dwarf in the air whilst jizzing on a homeless junkie.
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Post by: JamesTC on May 04, 2021, 12:21:17 AM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 03, 2021, 11:11:30 PM
If we were to write 'Ricky Gervais's After Extras' it would just be a picture of Derek throwing a dwarf in the air whilst jizzing on a homeless junkie.

I stopped to consider if that actually happened in an episode of Derek.
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Post by: olliebean on May 04, 2021, 04:28:33 PM
Who's going to die in this one, do we reckon?
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Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 04, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
It's like Morrissey albums: no matter how shit and offensive he becomes, the fans lap it up so he makes another.
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Post by: paruses on May 04, 2021, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: olliebean on May 04, 2021, 04:28:33 PM
Who's going to die in this one, do we reckon?

Quick recap please -

S1 he was responsible for the death of the sad heroin addict. But the Obermann character confirmed he was a great guy not yet ready for love.
S2 - dead dad[nb]Between the Lines! That's where I have seen his dad the actor recently[/nb] but still a great guy and the nurse turns up at the end to do things entirely on his terms (because he is sad but a great guy).

That right?

Dog will not die but might be almost dead at some point is my guess. Will be very sad but amazing to watch and speak for millions.

Will nursey still be on the scene? 50/50 on that. Maybe she will have taught him stuff (they love bum stuff in my experience) but have moved on allowing for a new love interest.

Is the intricately woven prostitute character still in it? I've forgotten already. Maybe she will have a Jody Foster-type ward who Tony becomes involved with after she lights a cigarette to time their encounter.

I want that sort of stuff in it not just easy sad stuff and old ladies saying cunt.
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Post by: paruses on May 04, 2021, 04:48:58 PM
Maybe he buys her a watch.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 04, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
The shrink is the absolute low point. If he's still in it, having been outed as a fraud and a misogynist, then it's just a sequence of crap sketches and mawkish monologues rather than an actual narrative with any direction or attempt at maintaining plausible characters (which was already happening in the first episode of Series 1 but has gradually worsened).
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Post by: Mr. Ssmsslth on May 05, 2021, 05:57:58 AM
Gervais' output has obviously been shit for ages but I think his conversations with Sam Harris are entertaining enough.
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Post by: Blue Jam on May 29, 2021, 06:39:46 PM
Ruh-roh...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57291604
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on May 29, 2021, 06:47:13 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 29, 2021, 06:39:46 PM
Ruh-roh...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57291604

Blimey that's horribly bleak. He has quite the comedy cv too, and has worked on a good deal of shows I love (This Morning With Richard Not Judy, The Harry Hill Show), along with some terrible dreck too.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dothestrand on May 30, 2021, 08:46:54 PM
How do you work with someone for nearly two decades and not have a clue?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on May 30, 2021, 09:19:42 PM
Quote from: dothestrand on May 30, 2021, 08:46:54 PM
How do you work with someone for nearly two decades and not have a clue?

By being a bloke and being very powerful?

To be fair to Gervais abusers can be very good at hiding in plain sight and victims can be afraid to speak up. If Gervais was never targeted personally the chances are he'd never have known.

QuoteGervais said: "I am shocked and appalled to learn of the historical allegations made by a number of women against Charlie Hanson.

"The decision was made to immediately remove him from production and I am confident the matter is being handled thoroughly.

To his credit he has taken the claims of the alleged victims seriously and seems to be handling this well, so fair play to him.
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Post by: Mobius on May 30, 2021, 09:48:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBgYQntWUAAsvDc?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 30, 2021, 11:41:45 PM
The BBC report doesn't say so, but two women who thought he was mentoring them as writers and performers have alleged separate but similar incidents of meeting Hanson to discuss their work, then waking up to find him having sex with them in an unfamiliar house, with no memory of getting there. Both incidents in 2008. There are at least nine other women with separate allegations.

Hanson was quoted as saying he's fighting the allegations "because I know that's not what I'm like".  Odd wording, but we'll see.
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Post by: Ferris on May 31, 2021, 12:58:13 AM
Too grim to even joke about. Bleh.
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Post by: evilcommiedictator on June 01, 2021, 02:32:21 AM
Do you think at the moment Gervais notices anything that's not about himself?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on June 03, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1400447068896784385

BE SAD
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Post by: phes on June 03, 2021, 09:51:59 PM
Oh fuck

This looks like a return to form. Multiple kids with cancer, the heavy artillery is out. Try slagging this off you keeeeeyunnnnnnts *dislocates jaw* awwhahahahahah
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Post by: frajer on June 03, 2021, 10:06:07 PM
Looks like a job for good ol Robot Grief Dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on June 03, 2021, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: Mobius on June 03, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1400447068896784385

BE SAD

What the fuck is this reply? https://twitter.com/bella_beddywhip/status/1400448468435361799

I thought it was a pisstake but it actually seems to be a Gervais superfan desperate to get their dog in the show.
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Post by: paruses on June 03, 2021, 11:01:25 PM
I was hoping it was going to be a true return to insanity but it looks like another very cheap way to get people to say it made them cry and all for the cost of a few headscarves.

This tweet is 50% accurate though:

https://twitter.com/GiselaWarnecke/status/1400465370671063050?s=20

Quote
Lisa with other children who have cancer and are getting chemo like her. I think it´s great that you give other people an insight into what chemo is in #AfterLife3.What you went through as Tony with Lisa. Tony fought cancer with Lisa. Thanks for the great insight into #AfterLife3

There will be no real insight into what having chemo is like BUT it will all be about Tony.
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 03, 2021, 11:13:34 PM
Lisa telling the cancer kids "honestly, he's the kindest man in the world, he's like a kindness superhero, you should see my face when he poos in my morning coffee as a practical joke, I just can't believe how kind he is".
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Post by: Vroomo on September 18, 2021, 10:25:49 PM
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1439332221710651397?s=21

What's the matter?  Too challenging for ya?
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Post by: TommyTurnips on September 19, 2021, 02:18:17 AM
I just want to know who's trying to cancel my medium fry-up.
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Post by: imitationleather on September 19, 2021, 05:39:58 AM
Quote from: MigraineBoy on September 18, 2021, 10:25:49 PM
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1439332221710651397?s=21

What's the matter?  Too challenging for ya?

I'm pleased to see someone's finally been brave enough to have a go at the bloody snowflakes.
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Post by: BritishHobo on September 19, 2021, 09:47:19 AM
Fucking christ.
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Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on September 19, 2021, 10:03:16 AM
Might watch it because he tweeted that Todd Rundgren will feature on the soundtrack. It'll probably just be Hello It's Me as usual though.
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Post by: phes on September 19, 2021, 11:04:08 AM
Is this nob really still banging that drum. What a few years for ageing white male comedians this has been huh. Someone on this forum is surely well positioned to write the comedy tosser family tree from M**g gate and Robot Grief Dogs to sex pests and cum stained banancunts
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Post by: jobotic on September 19, 2021, 11:07:16 AM
This probably does mean it's got a transphobic bit. Bravely
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Post by: Cuellar on September 19, 2021, 11:12:28 AM
Quote from: Echo Valley 2-6809 on September 19, 2021, 10:03:16 AM
Might watch it because he tweeted that Todd Rundgren will feature on the soundtrack. It'll probably just be Hello It's Me as usual though.

Played over Gervais turning up at someones front door
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Post by: Captain Z on September 19, 2021, 11:21:04 AM
OMG I don't normally enjoy modern newspaper articles but Ricky Gervais' latest "watch out, snowflakes" actually made me cry with emotion! Literally nobody else could do this. Ricky Gervais is one of a kind.
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Post by: Blue Jam on September 19, 2021, 12:05:21 PM
Quote from: jobotic on September 19, 2021, 11:07:16 AM
This probably does mean it's got a transphobic bit. Bravely

Well, he has retweeted James Dreyfus's praise:

https://mobile.twitter.com/DreyfusJames/status/1439266121488769025

"a man who has successfully blurred the wafer thin line between the real RG and the painfully hilarious character". Oh fuck off JD, he's not Larry David. He's not even Jack Dee.
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Post by: frajer on September 19, 2021, 12:09:35 PM
Oh yeah he's blurred that line like a champ.

Ricky Gervais, how DO you portay an egotistical out-of-touch sack of shit who relies on saying whatever lazy stereotype is on his mind as a substitute for actual jokes SO well?
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Post by: Blue Jam on September 19, 2021, 12:15:27 PM
How does he blur that line so well? I think it may be the way the character just happens to dress exactly like the actor does in real life. Inspired.

After Life is like a British Curb where the main character is always right and always "wins" and goes through life DESTROYING everyone who disagrees with him- ie, boring.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on September 19, 2021, 12:25:39 PM
Never has a man said so fucking little by saying so much.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on September 19, 2021, 12:33:06 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on September 19, 2021, 12:15:27 PM
How does he blur that line so well? I think it may be the way the character just happens to dress exactly like the actor does in real life. Inspired.

After Life is like a British Curb where the main character is always right and always "wins" and goes through life DESTROYING everyone who disagrees with him- ie, boring.

It is funny how so few of Curb's or One Foot in the Grave's imitators get what made those shows work.

Like, Victor is more often "in the right" than Larry is, but he's still an unbearable knob head whose one-upmanship is a substitute for how unhappy his life is. And Larry's life is less sad but his unfiltered worldview, while often right, is just as often wrong. And even when right, goes about it by making his life so much worse.

EDIT: While Jack Dee's Lead Balloon is a rather blah, ho-hum show, at least it gets that the unfiltered attitude is fucking up his life.
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Post by: Oblomov Boblomov on September 19, 2021, 04:23:44 PM
Several gushing respondents to that James Dreyfus tweet have green and purple heart emojis next to their names. Why might that be I wonder. Liberal use of the word genius there as well.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 04:31:15 PM
fucking hell are they still making this shite?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 19, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
I hope he pushes another drug addict to kill himself, calls a child a cunt and sees a phantom with Kerry Godliman's face advancing across a pond to him like Sadako in Ringu. Such brave television, he tells It like It is and the snowflakes cannot stand It!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: frajer on September 19, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
I hope he pushes another drug addict to kill himself, calls a child a cunt and sees a phantom with Kerry Godliman's face advancing across a pond to him like Sadako in Ringu. Such brave television, he tells It like It is and the snowflakes cannot stand It!

It being a sewer-dwelling kid eater, yeah?

I mean it has been 27 years since gervais was any good aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on September 19, 2021, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
It being a sewer-dwelling kid eater, yeah?

I mean it has been 27 years since gervais was any good aaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hey look it's a gay-bashing clown who must be destroyed

And over there is Stephen King's monster Pennywise
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on September 19, 2021, 05:18:09 PM
Quote from: Wayman C. McCreery on June 03, 2021, 10:34:58 PM
What the fuck is this reply? https://twitter.com/bella_beddywhip/status/1400448468435361799

I thought it was a pisstake but it actually seems to be a Gervais superfan desperate to get their dog in the show.
but it uses first person as if the dog is tweeting! Incredible. Watch out snowflakes.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on September 19, 2021, 05:48:45 PM
Quote from: frajer on September 19, 2021, 05:01:02 PM
Hey look it's a gay-bashing clown who must be destroyed

And over there is Stephen King's monster Pennywise

Total sidetrack but I am still pissed off that the fillums missed the point that King was externally slighting homophobia (and intolerance in general; what with the massive Mike Hanlon chapters) with the whole book's structure, and instead focused on a spooky culown who don't like the gays.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Pancake on September 20, 2021, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: frajer on September 19, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
I hope he pushes another drug addict to kill himself, calls a child a cunt and sees a phantom with Kerry Godliman's face advancing across a pond to him like Sadako in Ringu. Such brave television, he tells It like It is and the snowflakes cannot stand It!

THANK YOU for the reminder

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on September 20, 2021, 04:47:22 PM
That shot... dear god.

Hey Ricky, how about you stare wistfully at your wife as she swims in the distance?
Is she staring and smiling directly into the camera?
Well... no. She's in the distance. She's swimming. The audience will infer that...
Then how will people know I'm nice?
Er...
Fuck sake guys SUBTEXT yeah? I can't be the only one on top of this yeah?
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Post by: colacentral on September 20, 2021, 05:02:21 PM
(https://i.gifer.com/59EH.gif)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: markburgle on September 20, 2021, 05:22:47 PM
Quote from: Satchmo Distel on May 04, 2021, 04:56:22 PM
The shrink is the absolute low point. If he's still in it, having been outed as a fraud and a misogynist, then it's just a sequence of crap sketches and mawkish monologues rather than an actual narrative with any direction or attempt at maintaining plausible characters (which was already happening in the first episode of Series 1 but has gradually worsened).

I haven't seen the show but I bloody bet this shrink character will still be there. He loves writing oblivious incompetents, and will have the main character continue to employ them for no reason at all so he (Gervais) can keep having them muck everything up with hilarious consequences (see Darren Lamb, the accountant from Life's Too Short, the assistant from Life's Too Short, Kev from off Derek)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on November 09, 2021, 11:00:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bim0bpnnkWo

Nobody in the trailer apart from Gervais and the dog. Has everyone else died?
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Post by: Ferris on November 09, 2021, 11:07:04 PM
Trying to think of a more hackneyed track to play in the back of a trailer with no audio.

...Welcome to the Jungle? The Boys are Back in Town? It's slim pickings.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dickie_Anders on November 09, 2021, 11:16:35 PM
Is the story of this new series that Ricky Gervais' character starts shagging his dog?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Captain Z on November 09, 2021, 11:21:12 PM
I letterally cried. HOW DO HE DO THIS?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on November 09, 2021, 11:31:22 PM
I just hate this cunt so much. And all of the fucking idiots who think the stuff he makes is good. Like for fucks sake what is wrong with people.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on November 10, 2021, 12:07:16 AM
Quote from: Mobius on November 09, 2021, 11:31:22 PM
I just hate this cunt so much. And all of the fucking idiots who think the stuff he makes is good. Like for fucks sake what is wrong with people.

I'd avoid the comments then...
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on November 10, 2021, 12:11:18 AM
Quote from: Bobloblawslawbomb on November 10, 2021, 12:07:16 AM
I'd avoid the comments then...

The Gervais reddit is a soothing balm, they all hate him too.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on November 10, 2021, 01:12:32 AM
😭 

His wife wouldn't have wanted him to be sad though.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.

Tony snorting coke and weeping as he watches some old VHS tapes of himself farting in the dog's face or throwing a bucket of water on it while it's asleep.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on November 10, 2021, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.
Followed by a tweet of Ricky assuring his disciples that the dog is alive and well in real life and here's a photo to prove it..
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on November 10, 2021, 11:15:43 AM
It's Always Sunny in Generic Home Counties England
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 10, 2021, 11:35:48 AM
still looking at that styrofoam headstone that inexplicably is out of alignment with every other burial plot in the cemetery then
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on November 10, 2021, 11:37:36 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.

Tony snorting coke and weeping as he watches some old VHS tapes of himself farting in the dog's face or throwing a bucket of water on it while it's asleep.

Then he sees it's head, eerily pasted on to another dog's swimming body, floating towards him in a local pool.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on November 10, 2021, 11:43:49 AM
That's the trailer??

he should at least of wanked the dogged off all over his face and then the dog cum makes a picture of Kerry Godliman's face over Derek4life's face and he looks sad but defiant.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 10, 2021, 11:47:02 AM
Series 1. Gervais doesn't kill himself because he looks over and realises the dog needs feeding.

Series 2. Continues to feed dog while inexplicably being regarded as the nicest, kindest man in the world.

Series 3. Dog dies. Gervais kills self? NO. Gets new puppy. "'Cos that's the beauty of life, there'll always be a dog that needs feeding."

Fucking hell this cunt is kind. Not a dry eye in the house.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on November 10, 2021, 12:00:36 PM
Robot grief dog wife
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
More of the dog whine sound effect being dropped in as if dogs understand English and they whine on cue when anyone starts talking about sad things? And a whine is just Dog for "Yes human, I understand and am sad too"?

Dogs are more likely to whine when they want attention or they're bored or they see a squirrel through the window or the phone rings FFS
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:40:48 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on November 10, 2021, 08:01:24 AM
Dog definitely dying then.

Electrocuted humping Robot Grief Dog
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on November 10, 2021, 08:49:54 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
More of the dog whine sound effect being dropped in as if dogs understand English and they whine on cue when anyone starts talking about sad things? And a whine is just Dog for "Yes human, I understand and am sad too"?

Dogs are more likely to whine when they want attention or they're bored or they see a squirrel through the window or the phone rings FFS

TBF you can't really blame Gervais for that as pretty much every dog in all of film and TV has empathy whines dubbed on.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: shiftwork2 on November 10, 2021, 09:04:47 PM
I would rather pull my ring piece out with a coathanger than watch this drivel.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on November 10, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:40:48 PM
Electrocuted humping Robot Grief Dog

90's alt-rockers Whale consider rewrite
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on November 10, 2021, 11:24:33 PM
Sorry the sentiment wasn't globbed on thick enough in that trailer, what was all that best friend stuff about?? Completely went over my head, this show probably isn't for me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dr beat on November 10, 2021, 11:42:34 PM
Quote from: DJ Bob Hoskins on November 10, 2021, 11:07:37 PM
90's alt-rockers Whale consider rewrite

Brilliant :)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on November 11, 2021, 01:05:17 AM
the more I see of this guy the more I'm wondering if he's lost the magic
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sonny_Jim on November 11, 2021, 06:54:59 AM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on November 09, 2021, 11:07:04 PM
Trying to think of a more hackneyed track to play in the back of a trailer with no audio.

...Welcome to the Jungle? The Boys are Back in Town? It's slim pickings.
I was going to say Smashmouth, but that's only if the film was made in the 90's.  At least they stumped up the cash for the Queen recording, rather that getting some prick[nb]I'm sure they are very nice really[/nb] and a ukulele[nb]Might not actually be Ukulele[/nb] to do a slow sad version.

Quote from: Blue Jam on November 10, 2021, 12:33:10 PM
More of the dog whine sound effect being dropped in as if dogs understand English and they whine on cue when anyone starts talking about sad things? And a whine is just Dog for "Yes human, I understand and am sad too"?
I've just realised that Chewie was Han Solos pet dog in Star Wars.  R2D2 was Lukes pet dustbin.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on November 11, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Quote from: olliebean on November 09, 2021, 11:00:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bim0bpnnkWo

Nobody in the trailer apart from Gervais and the dog. Has everyone else died?
Thought there'd be a bathetic gag at the end, like the dog shits on his bed or something.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 11, 2021, 10:46:07 AM
Quote from: kalowski on November 11, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Thought there'd be a bathetic gag at the end, like the dog shits on his bed or something.

Gervais shits in the dog's bed and then films the dog's baffled reaction, so he has something to watch and cry over once the dog dies. Fuck me that man is kind.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 11, 2021, 10:50:10 AM
Quote from: kalowski on November 11, 2021, 10:41:38 AM
Thought there'd be a bathetic gag at the end, like the dog shits on his bed or something.
jokes? Narrative? No. This is simply a man who loves his dog.

Thought sleeping with the arm round it was a bit much. Never shared a bed with a big dog but I cant believe theyd be having that. It also looks like he might have just fucked the dog
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on November 11, 2021, 11:34:58 AM
Quote from: olliebean on November 09, 2021, 11:00:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bim0bpnnkWo

Nobody in the trailer apart from Gervais and the dog. Has everyone else died?

I like this idea of a post-apocalyptic take on the concept of "After Life". After All Life On Earth.

<fade in to opening verse of "The End" by The Doors>

"In a world where all of humanity has been wiped out by the inscrutable and absolute obliterating light of one man's kindness, that same one man now walks the earth with his dog in a quest to bravely call someone - something - a tubby little cunt."

<Gervais contemplates the tropical ocean pufferfish in his hand, shakes his head with a brave smile and releases it safely into a nearby pond>

<The camera pulls back to reveal him stood near a solitary grave in an otherwise barren and empty landscape>

<A NETFLIX ORIGINAL SERIES>

<AFTER LIFE>
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 11, 2021, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: The Mollusk on November 11, 2021, 11:34:58 AM
"In a world where all of Humanity has been wiped out

...y'know, because it's too offensive and that
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Bumlord on November 11, 2021, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: Mobius on November 10, 2021, 12:11:18 AM
The Gervais reddit is a soothing balm, they all hate him too.




Ha


(https://i.imgur.com/cQSR8asl.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wooders1978 on November 11, 2021, 05:47:15 PM
Predicted synopsis:
Between season 2-3 he's wrecked all his new found friendships due to being so *ruddy* sad, his bench mate has moved on with new fella, scotch nurse has fucked off - all he has left is his beloved dog - dog dies though, totes heartbreak, then he gets a new one and falls in love again with the puppy, realises he can do this with his bird - back with scotch nurse and friendships repaired - everyone saying how lovely he is and hes the best bloke they've ever encountered - end scene
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on November 11, 2021, 07:10:12 PM
What if someone not-kind kills the dog and he goes all John Wick (aided by a kind prostitute). I would 100% enjoy watching a tubby John Wick - all breathless and sweaty but sarcastic (and KIND).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neveragain on November 11, 2021, 10:29:28 PM
Sorry to spoil the fun but yer man stated on Instagram that he would never kill the dog. It could be a lie but I think he knows his super-fanbase would react well to that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on November 12, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
do people hate watch this? i can't even bring myself to do that after the undeniable mediocrity of series 1.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:20:08 PM
Quote from: paruses on November 11, 2021, 07:10:12 PM
What if someone not-kind kills the dog and he goes all John Wick (aided by a kind prostitute). I would 100% enjoy watching a tubby John Wick - all breathless and sweaty but sarcastic (and KIND).

John Thicc

Oh gawd, has he watched Nobody and got ideas? I jest, but:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rickygervais/comments/qqcy2o/youre_muscly_why/

Would be funny if some bad Russian dudes throw him through a bus window and then he gets home and takes his shirt off and we see the lacerations to his chest spell out ATHEIST
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:41:51 PM
(I would pay good money to see Ricky Gervais do a geriaction flick ngl)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: Hat FM on November 12, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
do people hate watch this? i can't even bring myself to do that after the undeniable mediocrity of series 1.

I hate-watched series 1 and it was bizarre but not quite Derke-level bizarre, not enough to be entertainingly "WTF?". I also sat through the opening episode of series 2 and that was enough, it was just a bit too dull to continue with.

Overall this show is really just too boring to inspire any strong feelings. It's more fun to hate-read all the inexplicable praise it gets from his followers on Twitter and see how they obediently dogpile onto any dissenters.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on November 12, 2021, 12:47:24 PM
Yeah, it was a weird hallucinatory disjointed mess but not completely insane like Derek, so I don't think I bothered with series 2.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:49:26 PM
I think After Life is a bit like Humanity in that it starts off a bit WTF but by the halfway point it's just noise and you tune out.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on November 12, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
Quote from: Hat FM on November 12, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
do people hate watch this? i can't even bring myself to do that after the undeniable mediocrity of series 1.

I couldn't even make it through the tedious insanity of Derke. Something this beige had no chance.

I've just remembered the gag where The Rickster sat in a pie and that was the whole thing. What a mess that show was.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 12, 2021, 01:34:10 PM
Can't he come up with another show premise where he can play a character who wears a tight-fitting black t shirt and is kind to animals
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on November 12, 2021, 02:40:17 PM
The Derek threads were great. I wasn't signed up here but I was lurkng away and watching along with the insanity with everyone else. All the memes, editing the wiki, unmasking Tadpole Hitler and oh the Derek fan fiction! It was a great time in my life. I haven't even bothered to watch Afterlife though, I've read you all talking about it though and seems like it would be a painful come down after the kindness of Derek. I think I have a fair idea of what it's about.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 12, 2021, 02:50:00 PM
Yes, Derek was an absolute fucking demented horrorshow of baffling decisions from an overblown and thin-skinned comedy ego. Well worth the attention and inspiring in its lunacy.

Afterlife is a tepid ITV1 Sunday night comedy-drama with a few swears and nonce jokes thrown in, and not even as good as that description suggests.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on November 12, 2021, 04:12:54 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 12, 2021, 12:46:05 PM
I hate-watched series 1 and it was bizarre but not quite Derke-level bizarre, not enough to be entertainingly "WTF?". I also sat through the opening episode of series 2 and that was enough, it was just a bit too dull to continue with.

Overall this show is really just too boring to inspire any strong feelings. It's more fun to hate-read all the inexplicable praise it gets from his followers on Twitter and see how they obediently dogpile onto any dissenters.

Same for me.

I did like the perversity of identifying where and why it's wrong /just not good enough but there was always something that eluded me. It's just occurred to me that it's like a comedy attempt at one of those Harlan Coben adaptations - set in England but at the same time not recognisable. It seems to be set in what Americans think an English town is like.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: colacentral on November 14, 2021, 10:53:02 AM
I reckon someone will be a cunt and he'll call them a cunt.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on November 14, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
Quote from: FerriswheelBueller on November 12, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
I couldn't even make it through the tedious insanity of Derke. Something this beige had no chance.

I've just remembered the gag where The Rickster sat in a pie and that was the whole thing. What a mess that show was.
How dare you. It was crumble.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on November 14, 2021, 12:22:39 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on November 14, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
How dare you. It was crumble.

Pie wouldn't have been funny. And there was custard on top of the crumble as well!! Gervais knows what he's doing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 18, 2021, 05:42:03 PM
Been listening to the Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend podcast lately and thought I'd give the Ricky Gervais one a hate-listen. I'm mildly annoyed to report that it was a good listen and he comes across surprisingly well. Lots of interesting stuff about the intricacies of constructing jokes and the reasons why things are funny.

There's a bit where he talks about Tony from After Life as this man who wants to lash out and be misanthropic but can't because he has a conscience and he's just too nice. I would have found that interesting if only I didn't know how at odds that desription is with the actual show that I have seen.

Always amusing to hear him talk about his great friend David Bough-ie as well.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 19, 2021, 11:18:59 AM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 18, 2021, 05:42:03 PMThere's a bit where he talks about Tony from After Life as this man who wants to lash out and be misanthropic but can't because he has a conscience and he's just too nice. I would have found that interesting if only I didn't know how at odds that desription is with the actual show that I have seen.

There's definitely a good version of After Life to be made from the concept, but the writing is the laziest boring shit I can think of in a modern sitcom.

It's just so limited in scope, and churned out in the most autopilot way possible. The constant straw characters he sets up just so he can "eviscerate" them and walk away going "thus I win" is painful but even worse is having every character he meets call him the kindest, most decent man they've ever met. It's bizarre, but not in a fascinating Derek way.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dissolute ocelot on November 19, 2021, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on November 14, 2021, 12:22:39 PMPie wouldn't have been funny. And there was custard on top of the crumble as well!! Gervais knows what he's doing.
Crumble is funny if he stands up and you see his bum has crumble on it. Pie is funny if you see the busted pie afterwards. Choux pastries would be funny if he sat down and a jet of cream shot out. WHICH WAS IT?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on November 19, 2021, 01:37:30 PM
Quote from: frajer on November 19, 2021, 11:18:59 AMThere's definitely a good version of After Life to be made from the concept, but the writing is the laziest boring shit I can think of in a modern sitcom.

I remember Chris Morris coming up with an idea for a hidden camera show called "It's Alright, He's Got Cancer", in which a man would prank unsuspecting members of the public and at the point where someone lost their rageand was about to hit him the camera crew would jump out and shout those words in the title. I think that was in Second Class Male (FAKE EDIT: Here (http://richardgeefe.blogspot.com/), and it looks like "It's OK, He's About To Top Himself" was another idea of Morris's) and Richard Geefe/The Suicide Jornalist himself was a not dissimilar idea.

The idea that staring death in the face gives someone the superpower of being able to do what they want without fear is an interesting one, but the reality of Tony using that "superpower" to... call a small child a cunt is so much less impressive. That's not fearlessness, it's pettiness. It's not even amusingly petty, in the way that George Spiggot in Bedazzled (1967) (for example) is.

Falling Down is almost certainly an inspiration for After Life, being about a man with nothing more to lose, but shooting guns and stabbing neo-nazis and stealing a rocket launcher is a lot more reckless and unhinged and interesting than bullying a stressed-out waitress into serving you some fishfingers.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 19, 2021, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on November 19, 2021, 01:37:30 PMThe idea that staring death in the face gives someone the superpower of being able to do what they want without fear is an interesting one, but the reality of Tony using that "superpower" to... call a small child a cunt is so much less impressive. That's not fearlessness, it's pettiness. It's not even amusingly petty, in the way that George Spiggot in Bedazzled (1967) (for example) is.

Falling Down is almost certainly an inspiration for After Life, being about a man with nothing more to lose, but shooting guns and stabbing neo-nazis and stealing a rocket launcher is a lot more reckless and unhinged and interesting than bullying a stressed-out waitress into serving you some fishfingers.

Yeah it really is absurdly unimaginative.

Also there is the creepy idea that the Gervais character has gained a "superpower" beyond us mere mortals, and the implication that we'd all be calling people fat cunts and nonces if we didn't have to face consequences. Plus the fact he chooses to turn up to his easy job but do as little work as possible because if anyone dares ask him to put some fucking effort in, he'll just go and kill himself. Just don't fucking go into work mate! Oh wait, I forgot, he needs coins for dog food.

Anyway I digress, in summary he really is the kindest man.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on November 19, 2021, 02:19:36 PM
Maybe in this one he will discover Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Then call Him a nonce and tell Him to fuck off
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on November 19, 2021, 05:26:38 PM
I know he has said the dog won't die, but I genuinely can't think of what else could happen.

Series 1 had him being mopey and aggressive for every episode and didn't really feel it needed a plot because it was still a "novelty" so he just stomped around for 6 episodes bullying everyone and killing a drug addict and clobbering youths with tin cans but not getting in any bother somehow.

Series 2 had the businessman (in his suit and tie) threatening to close down the free local paper that somehow employs dozens of people, until Tony kindly educated him that it would be a really kind thing to keep that money-pit going where he regularly did fuck all for an apparently decent wage.

Series 3, he decides to master the dark arts and resurrect his wife and causes an apocalypse in Little-Richard-Curtis-on-the-Wold?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on November 20, 2021, 03:29:41 AM
Quote from: frajer on November 19, 2021, 05:26:38 PMI know he has said the dog won't die, but I genuinely can't think of what else could happen.

Keep watching.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: rude soil on December 03, 2021, 05:10:48 PM
New David Brent song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fctMynzMTwg
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on December 03, 2021, 06:44:33 PM
Quote from: rude soil on December 03, 2021, 05:10:48 PMNew David Brent song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fctMynzMTwg
Jesus Christ that is fucking shocking.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ImmaculateClump on December 03, 2021, 06:47:34 PM
Nnnnnh, soul shriveling.
Too cringey for me, dad. Sorry, had to bail about a third of the way in.
Couldn't even be arsed to come up with a catchy tune or noffing. Prick just doesn't care nowadays.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on December 03, 2021, 06:56:51 PM
[Peter Sissons voice]
Jeesus christ
[/Peter Sissons voice]
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on December 03, 2021, 07:01:42 PM
Haha bloody hell that's rotten.

Also the nerve of saying it was written by Ricky Gervais and Andy Burrows when it was clearly autogenerated by a beige robot.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 03, 2021, 07:09:14 PM
From Chortle:

Speaking to The Sun about his new song, Gervais said: 'I'm worried about putting it out because I'm embarrassed as it's a real song.

'I can put out ironic songs as David Brent but I haven't written a serious song in 40 years, so I'm thinking, "What if it's crap?" — but it's not, it's really good.'

'You're worried about the critical reaction more than when you're being stupid, because when you're being stupid and somebody goes, "That's rubbish' you're like, 'I don't give a fuck". If you're being really serious and someone says, "It's rubbish', you go, "Fuck, is it?"'
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on December 03, 2021, 07:15:05 PM
all of the replies on youtube saying how amazing it is...

unbelievable. how did this man create The Office....
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dickie_Anders on December 03, 2021, 11:22:30 PM
His Dad said "we're rich as hell"? Why does he talk like someone out of an American film?

I thought the joke with Brent was that he sings in cliches. His Dad told him "It's hard to fulfil your dreams", "you just need someone to love" and "happiness is more important than money". His Dad speaks like every popular song or film ever made. I hate his Dad. Get an original saying you poor cunt
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on December 03, 2021, 11:23:07 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 03, 2021, 06:44:33 PMJesus Christ that is fucking shocking.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on December 03, 2021, 11:39:22 PM
the styrofoam grave always make me laugh
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on December 03, 2021, 11:47:13 PM
Holy shit that is wank. The guy who always used to smugly boast about not making your art middle-of-the-road really seems to genuinely believe Derek and this are his best work. I mean... 'I'm thinking, "What if it's crap?" — but it's not, it's really good.' Really good! It's half a fucking song! It dirges along for a bit and then just stops. I'm convinced that everything he's done since Extras has been first-draft-and-done. Polish is for people less innately talented than him.

Love to see Ricky Gervais smile sadly at a child with cancer before a scene where Brian Gittins looms over a bloke in a bath.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:02:11 AM
Bloody hell that's poor. I went into this thinking "it'll be shit" but I had no idea. Incredible.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: selectivememory on December 04, 2021, 12:11:28 AM
Bloody hell, that is atrocious.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on December 04, 2021, 12:26:45 AM
Holy mother of Christ. How can he think that's good? I know we're talking about a man who thinks Derek and After Life are good, but... how?!

I actually think some of the songs he wrote for Brent are pretty good. They're catchy, memorable. That's just a half-arsed sliver of generic, mawkish MOR crap.
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Post by: Noodle Lizard on December 04, 2021, 02:23:41 AM
What on earth? Is that the full song as well? It's not even two minutes long (thankfully).

There also appears to be a line across the top third of the video, but that's the least of its worries.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on December 04, 2021, 03:56:22 AM
This has to be Christmas number one!

Is he doing this so it can be played on the show and he therefore gets more Netflix money for the licensing?
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Post by: chveik on December 04, 2021, 04:33:48 AM
song of the summer
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Post by: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AM
When I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad
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Post by: AllisonSays on December 04, 2021, 09:11:29 AM
I think there's a certain strain of maudlin sentimentality in the English national psyche that exists in a kind of inverse relation to people's actual capacity for empathy, so you get laughing emojis under a news story about migrants drowning in the channel and hundreds of comments underneath this drivel about how it reduced them to tears. It's like Dickens and Oliver Twist.

There's also a bit of a Richard Littlejohn thing where despite being objectively not part of the little England imagined community RG seems able to tickle its udders weirdly effectively, from his fuckin million-pound penthouse in LA or whatever. I wonder how calculated it is.
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Post by: olliebean on December 04, 2021, 09:49:38 AM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on December 04, 2021, 12:26:45 AMHoly mother of Christ. How can he think that's good? I know we're talking about a man who thinks Derek and After Life are good, but... how?!

I actually think some of the songs he wrote for Brent are pretty good. They're catchy, memorable. That's just a half-arsed sliver of generic, mawkish MOR crap.

It's exactly the sort of thing that some of the Brent songs are taking the piss out of, isn't it?
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Post by: batwings on December 04, 2021, 11:29:59 AM
This is the worst thing I've ever seen and I discovered my brother's corpse.
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Post by: MrsWarboysLover on December 04, 2021, 11:58:47 AM
i dont know why, but as I was listening to the song I was thinking "it's not THAT bad" and that people here were overreacting.

for me, the song doesn't hit you over the head with it's awfulness. it's a slow burn, a steady dawning realisation afterwards of everything that's wrong with it, and it just keeps building.
he didn't think any of those lyrics were cringe inducing?
he didn't bother to make the song longer than 2 minutes?
He thought that melody was memorable?
He broke his decades long streak of only ironic songs ... for this?
etc etc

in this sense, this is probably the most subtle thing he's done in decades
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Post by: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:16:44 PM
"Oh and never count your money
just count the lines
round the eyes of your woman
that you made from smiles"

Leaving aside the awful beigeness of the sentiment and the laboured sub-99p Clintons card writing, THIS is the best possible thing that Gervais can create these days? Imagine being given a blank cheque from Netflix and doing this. Fucking hell.

Quote from: AllisonSays on December 04, 2021, 09:11:29 AMThere's also a bit of a Richard Littlejohn thing where despite being objectively not part of the little England imagined community RG seems able to tickle its udders weirdly effectively, from his fuckin million-pound penthouse in LA or whatever. I wonder how calculated it is.

I reckon one feeds the other. It's calculated in that he's realised he can milk this audience for all it's worth, but he is also incapable of making anything better.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 12:21:06 PM
'Your' woman that you made out of smiles?
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:23:33 PM
He also makes several references to "your woman" which feels like a very dated and possessive sentiment.

It's nice that the rickster is churning out stuff that's just bad, rather than tedious. A welcome return to form.
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Post by: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:25:54 PM
Quote from: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 12:21:06 PM'Your' woman that you made out of smiles?

Just double checked in case I was being an accidental massive sexist, but yeah it's 'your woman.'

You could not have engineered a more perfect example of the song that Freelove Freeway was ripping the piss out of if you'd tried. Surely he must know this deep down?
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:25:54 PMJust double checked in case I was being an accidental massive sexist, but yeah it's 'your woman.'

You could not have engineered a more perfect example of the song that Freelove Freeway was ripping the piss out of if you'd tried. Surely he must know this deep down?

At this point, it's more likely he played Freelove Freeway for the writers and when everyone started laughing he claimed it was ironic all along
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Post by: QDRPHNC on December 04, 2021, 12:35:41 PM
Quote from: frajer on December 04, 2021, 12:25:54 PMJust double checked in case I was being an accidental massive sexist, but yeah it's 'your woman.'

You could not have engineered a more perfect example of the song that Freelove Freeway was ripping the piss out of if you'd tried. Surely he must know this deep down?

Well no, because he's learned what kindness is. So he's trying to be kind. And you bring all this cynical shit into it, laughing at his lyrics, he's just trying to be kind. When you're being kind, the lyrics and the music and all don't matter, as long they're kind.
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

I tried to find the full lyrics because I can't believe they're as bad as I remember (and I'm not going to watch it again to find out) but apart from an interview with the Mail and the Sun (know your audience eh Rick), there's no online footprint for this.

It's a terrific piece of pablum this, one for the ages. If anyone wants to transcribe the lyrics nows your chance because they're literally unavailable otherwise.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on December 04, 2021, 12:46:55 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on December 04, 2021, 11:58:47 AMhe didn't bother to make the song longer than 2 minutes?

So it can fit in the soundtrack of the show? I'm hoping for an RG original song at the end of every episode.
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 04, 2021, 01:26:47 PM
All that money and he can't afford a rhyming dictionary?

Listening to that made me feel like Declan Donnelly during the average game of Wonky Donkey.
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Post by: Excellent_Biscuits on December 04, 2021, 04:34:44 PM
This series is going to be mainly montages isn't it?
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Post by: mjwilson on December 04, 2021, 06:36:52 PM
I'm sure someone told me it was going to end with him
Spoiler alert
fucking the dog
[close]
but I don't remember who and it doesn't seem like it could be right. Could it?
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 07:15:32 PM
Fine, I'll do it.

If anyone is wondering, the first 2 lines are genuinely the only ones that rhyme. "Dad" and "sad" - why not use "bad" or "mad" too, Rick? Go the whole way. Bolded the failed attempts for your convenience.

A dog's breakfast, but perhaps that is what he was going for because the show has a dog in it? Anyway, here you go:

QuoteWhen I was young, I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad?

He smiled and he said to me, son
We're rich as hell
You'll understand when you
Meet your girl

Chorus
He said I know it's hard
To fulfill your dreams
(Oh) but life comes down
To just three things

You need something to do
And someone to love
(Oh) and something to wish fo-oo-oor

(Oh) and never count your money
Just count the lines
Around the eyes of your woman
That were made from smiles

Middle Eight
If you want to go fast, then go alone
If you want to go fa-aa-ar, go with someone

Chorus (with handclaps)
He said I know it's hard
To fulfill your dreams
(Oh) but life comes down
To just three things

You need something to do
And someone to love
(Oh) and something to wish fo-oo-oor

(Juuuust re-mem-berrrr...)
(Someone to lo-oooo-ooove...)

It's like the "before" sample in a songwriting class and to my ear uses the same F/C/Am/G structure as FreeLove Freeway (with an E7 every so often to mix it up) though I don't care enough to watch it again or get a guitar to check.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 07:30:38 PM
Genuinely thought, and wasn't surprised, that 'Middle eight' was actually one of the lyrics.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 04, 2021, 07:32:16 PM
I hope he has to do a Tommy Wiseau and start pretending it was supposed to be a comedy song all along.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 04, 2021, 07:51:12 PM
I've said before that I think Gervais's writing process for Derek and After Life is to write a piss-take of something mawkish and then try to kick it into sincere shape. It's just all so shallow, inauthentic and (in the case of Derek) hilariously at odds with its own tone at times.

This song has me absolutely convinced of my hypothesis.
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Post by: paruses on December 04, 2021, 07:52:49 PM
All his non-film output since Merchant is trolling of the finest order but this is a bit obvious.

Having said that the sympathy look he gives the cancer / bald child (will need to see the series to confirm which) is excellent. Bit like a psychopath learning how to cry.
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Post by: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 07:57:31 PM
Bollocks, I should have dashed off an extra verse and asked which one it was.

Missed a trick there.
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Post by: Mr Faineant on December 04, 2021, 10:07:12 PM
Hey Siri, sing a song of pablum.
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 04, 2021, 10:22:25 PM
.
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Post by: frajer on December 04, 2021, 10:25:13 PM
"Dad what are you smiling about? We're POOR."

"Oh piss off and kiss a girl young Ricky, put some lines on her face through smiles. And don't make a saccharine song about this when I'm dead."
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 04, 2021, 10:40:39 PM
Are you sure the lines weren't the result of her being subjected to endless hilarious pranks?
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 04, 2021, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: paruses on December 04, 2021, 07:52:49 PMAll his non-film output since Merchant is trolling of the finest order but this is a bit obvious.

Having said that the sympathy look he gives the cancer / bald child (will need to see the series to confirm which) is excellent. Bit like a psychopath learning how to cry.

"I see you have cancer. My wife had cancer - she idolised me and the way I used to dip my ballsack in her morning porridge everyday. As she rightly recognised, I'm the greatest kindest most kindest greatest man in the world, and she would weep tears of joy whenever she came home to find I'd thrown all of her books in a pond and put bees in her coat pockets. So in a way I am like a hero of cancer, you're welcome."
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 04, 2021, 10:52:42 PM
"I, TOMY, HAVE BEEN HUMBLED TO LEARN THAT A CHILD CAN GET CANCER AND MAY NEVER GROW OLD ENOUGH TO LAUGH AS THEIR HUSBAND LOCKS THEM IN A WARDROBE FULL OF STINGING NETTLES AND FUCKS OFF TO THE BEACH WITH HIS SHIT DOG WHO DIES IN THE LAST EPISODE"
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Post by: trabuch on December 04, 2021, 11:00:58 PM
Christmas number two.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 04, 2021, 11:03:59 PM
"Hi kid with cancer, I'm going to come round your house when you're asleep, because I know where you live right, and I'm going to smash your parents' heads with a hammer"
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Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 05, 2021, 04:16:26 AM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on November 20, 2021, 03:29:41 AMKeep watching.

(https://i.imgur.com/HrOiMCs.jpg)
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Post by: SpiderChrist on December 05, 2021, 08:25:02 AM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

That's as far as I made it, 20 or so seconds. You could kind of tell it wasn't going to improve.
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:08:05 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on December 05, 2021, 08:25:02 AMThat's as far as I made it, 20 or so seconds. You could kind of tell it wasn't going to improve.

If anything, it went downhill.
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Post by: QDRPHNC on December 05, 2021, 01:11:30 PM
That must have been nice to for his dad.

"Hey dad, you're really poor. Why aren't you sad? If I was poor like you I'd be sad."
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:17:21 PM
I'll point out that you missed off the question mark which is in the YouTube transcript.

...and that's another thing - what music video has lyrics at the bottom? It's like they were proud and wanted you to witness their incredible lyricism.
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:21:44 PM
"Lines on your woman's face made from smiles" doesn't make sense, does it? Made by smiles, I suppose, maybe? That would take 5 seconds to correct and redraft but nobody in the creative/writing/recording process bothered to think about what they were doing.

No idea why he's so pleased about it all - if you offered me a songwriting credit on this I'd run a mile. I think he's just a shameless self-publicist and at any moment believes completely whatever he's saying. Derke is the best thing I've ever made, I'm proud of having written this song, people definitely wanted that new David Brent film 20 years after the fact.
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Post by: ImmaculateClump on December 05, 2021, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on December 05, 2021, 01:11:30 PM"Hey dad, you're really poor. Why aren't you sad? If I was poor like you I'd be sad."

The is the phone call he's been getting from his son at 3am for the last 15 years.
Manic cackling and then he slams down the receiver.
He phones all his friends from school and his old work colleagues as well, then he turns to his wife and says "I'm leaving it all to the dogs, just so you know. Night, night"
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Post by: TommyTurnips on December 05, 2021, 02:59:40 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 01:21:44 PM"Lines on your woman's face made from smiles" doesn't make sense, does it? Made by smiles, I suppose, maybe? That would take 5 seconds to correct and redraft but nobody in the creative/writing/recording process bothered to think about what they were doing.

No idea why he's so pleased about it all - if you offered me a songwriting credit on this I'd run a mile. I think he's just a shameless self-publicist and at any moment believes completely whatever he's saying. Derke is the best thing I've ever made, I'm proud of having written this song, people definitely wanted that new David Brent film 20 years after the fact.

I think that nowadays Ricky has enough fame, influence and money that he can sink into his own productions which are essentially just vanity projects that he can buy his way into having complete creative control over. With no one like Steve Merchant around to say things like "um, I don't think it's a good idea to make a show about a kind person and a sex pest in a nursing home, Rick" he can hire a bunch of yes men who will produce and edit his projects without ever questioning his methods. This is how we end up with "lines that were made from smiles" and other hacky shit.
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Post by: Mr Faineant on December 05, 2021, 08:44:44 PM
Perhaps he just likes making money, and thick people like him, will give him their money, and there's fucking loads of them. He can get the coins rolling in with minimal effort...can't blame him really. If I had only bad ideas (I do) and people would pay me for them (they won't), I'd sell too.
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Post by: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 09:27:22 PM
...but would you go gushing to the Mail about pouring your heart into such the musical equivalent of wood mulch? I think I'd keep my head down, count the cheques, and hope like fuck nobody ever puts 2 and 2 together re: the output being complete shit.
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Post by: idunnosomename on December 05, 2021, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 04, 2021, 07:15:32 PMIt's like the "before" sample in a songwriting class and to my ear uses the same F/C/Am/G structure as FreeLove Freeway (with an E7 every so often to mix it up) though I don't care enough to watch it again or get a guitar to check.

it really does sound like some cunt on an acoustic guitar has written it and some poor bod has to give it a big sappy grandiose orchestration. it's definitely got Am-G as the big hook (and it is in C as you guess)
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Post by: H-O-W-L on December 05, 2021, 10:15:47 PM
I think ultimately Gervais is proof that money can buy you everything but quality itself.
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Post by: olliebean on December 06, 2021, 08:19:37 AM
A friend of mine who directs comedy shows once told me about a sketch troupe who would occasionally come up with ideas like, "Let's end this sketch by doing a shit on the stage." His job, he told me, was to say to them, "OK, instead of that, maybe let's work on this other really good idea we had."

That was essentially Merchant's job with Gervais, wasn't it?
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Post by: dead-ced-dead on December 06, 2021, 09:59:25 AM
Quote from: olliebean on December 06, 2021, 08:19:37 AMA friend of mine who directs comedy shows once told me about a sketch troupe who would occasionally come up with ideas like, "Let's end this sketch by doing a shit on the stage." His job, he told me, was to say to them, "OK, instead of that, maybe let's work on this other really good idea we had."

That was essentially Merchant's job with Gervais, wasn't it?

After Fighting With My Family and The Outlaws, neither of which are perfect but are competently made and have a basic understanding of the basics of screenwriting, it's very apparent this is the case.
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 06, 2021, 10:38:10 AM
It's also very interesting to see the huge gulf between the attitudes to non-white-straight-able-bodied people in their work. Merchant has shown an eagerness to platform diverse casts without drawing attention to it, while Gervais remains obsessed with "ironically" pointing out any difference at exhausting length. It struck me while watching The Outlaws that never in a million years would Gervais have a cast of characters of such varied backgrounds, and actually explore those backgrounds in a sincere way. They would just be there as stock figures for somebody to embarrass themselves in front of. Even the character arc with Darren Boyd is light-years ahead of anything Gervais could manage.
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on December 06, 2021, 10:46:17 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 04, 2021, 07:51:12 PMI've said before that I think Gervais's writing process for Derek and After Life is to write a piss-take of something mawkish and then try to kick it into sincere shape. It's just all so shallow, inauthentic and (in the case of Derek) hilariously at odds with its own tone at times.

This song has me absolutely convinced of my hypothesis.
I assume that when he was working on Extras, as well as When The Whistle Blows he actually wrote all these other terrible sitcoms in the expectation he'd use them in Extras series 3 and 4. Then he had a horrible realization.

The "never count the money/count the lines" thing is extraordinary. If you have to spend 2 more lines explaining what you're talking about for the sake of having such a pedestrian antithesis in the first 2 lines, maybe try something else. Count the smiles or tears, I don't know. That sort of thing is classic bad songwriting parody though: get the rhyme first and then spend the rest of the verse trying to make it into a coherent thought.
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Post by: idunnosomename on December 06, 2021, 12:51:06 PM
OF YOUR WO-MANNN

baby BABY
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Post by: Ferris on December 06, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
Just remembered this verse in the shower and had a right good chuckle.

Quote(Oh) and never count your money
Just count the lines
Around the eyes of your woman
That were made from smiles
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Post by: Midas on December 06, 2021, 01:12:35 PM
Bloody hell!
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Post by: Chollis on December 06, 2021, 01:14:46 PM
i can't wrap my head around those lyrics, is it really being played completely straight? i've never watched any After Life.
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on December 06, 2021, 01:20:28 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

Kier Starmer is screaming at his speech writer for not coming up with this first.
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Post by: Hat FM on December 06, 2021, 01:55:18 PM
i'm not going to put myself through listening to the song but i really hope that this is david brent appearing as a pop star on afterlife.
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Post by: Mr Faineant on December 06, 2021, 05:12:27 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 05, 2021, 09:27:22 PM...but would you go gushing to the Mail about pouring your heart into such the musical equivalent of wood mulch? I think I'd keep my head down, count the cheques, and hope like fuck nobody ever puts 2 and 2 together re: the output being complete shit.

Yeah there's no accounting for that. He's just a cunt, that's all I can think of.
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Post by: seimaj on December 06, 2021, 05:27:16 PM
Gawd. Minute 01.13 reminds me of the French and Saunders parody of an Abba video, with Dawn as Frida doing the exact same thing.

The staring at the cancer boy is also just.......beyond parody.
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Post by: Jumblegraws on December 06, 2021, 05:34:58 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad
I hope I'm not the only one who immediately thought of a certain sectarian Rangers song upon hearing those opening lines
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Post by: Noodle Lizard on December 06, 2021, 07:17:58 PM
I'm struggling to think of another song which almost entirely consists of oblique rhymes ("near rhyme" sounds too generous, as they're not even close). It's such a frustrating thing to listen to. It reminds me of when you'd learn a new technique in English Lit and then everyone's next creative writing assignment would just be back-to-back pathetic fallacies or whatever it was. The difference here is that I think it comes from pure laziness more than experimenting with the form.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 06, 2021, 07:19:51 PM
Quote from: seimaj on December 06, 2021, 05:27:16 PMThe staring at the cancer boy is also just.......beyond parody.

Possibly my favourite bit. Sharing a joke with him maybe, smiling, then serious face, 'ah, he does have cancer though, shame'
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Post by: jobotic on December 06, 2021, 07:49:04 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 06, 2021, 05:34:58 PMI hope I'm not the only one who immediately thought of a certain sectarian Rangers song upon hearing those opening lines

Not quite but I am thinking

My old man
Said be a kindly man
I said fuck off bollocks you're a cunt
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Post by: The Mollusk on December 06, 2021, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Cuellar on December 06, 2021, 07:19:51 PMPossibly my favourite bit. Sharing a joke with him maybe, smiling, then serious face, 'ah, he does have cancer though, shame'

Sad look down... Brave little smile. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msfIAUDJ8CI)
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Post by: Captain Z on December 06, 2021, 09:44:52 PM
Quote from: kalowski on December 04, 2021, 08:42:53 AMWhen I was young I asked my dad
Why being poor didn't make him sad

And noooooooow
The miracle is mine
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Post by: turnstyle on December 07, 2021, 08:29:36 PM
I can't stop thinking about this.

It's like getting a cancer diagnosis, but you're keen to embrace the sweet relief of death.
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Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 07, 2021, 11:26:24 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on December 06, 2021, 10:38:10 AMIt's also very interesting to see the huge gulf between the attitudes to non-white-straight-able-bodied people in their work. Merchant has shown an eagerness to platform diverse casts without drawing attention to it, while Gervais remains obsessed with "ironically" pointing out any difference at exhausting length. It struck me while watching The Outlaws that never in a million years would Gervais have a cast of characters of such varied backgrounds, and actually explore those backgrounds in a sincere way. They would just be there as stock figures for somebody to embarrass themselves in front of. Even the character arc with Darren Boyd is light-years ahead of anything Gervais could manage.

I read one of Merchant's publicity interviews for The Outlaws a few weeks ago, and he was asked the inevitable question that he must get sick of, 'Will you be working with Ricky Gervais again?'
He said as usual that he wouldn't rule it out, but added something like, Ricky was definitely important in my career and in me making my name, but if I hadn't met him I was still ambitious enough to have been successful on my own by hook or by crook. He definitely used that last phrase.
As far as I can tell, the subject of Merchant seems to be off-limits in Gervais interviews, or he's just not asked about him (I might have missed examples though); so did they fall out over Merchant being determined to do his own thing to prove himself on his own terms, and Gervais isn't happy about it?
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Post by: Bronzy on December 08, 2021, 07:06:12 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on December 06, 2021, 05:34:58 PMI hope I'm not the only one who immediately thought of a certain sectarian Rangers song upon hearing those opening lines

When I was young, I had no sense
I stared at a cancer boy for fifty pence
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on December 08, 2021, 10:05:24 AM
When I was just a little girl
I asked my mother, "what will I be?"
"Brain damaged."
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Post by: DigForVictory on December 08, 2021, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: Twonty Gostelow on December 07, 2021, 11:26:24 PMI read one of Merchant's publicity interviews for The Outlaws a few weeks ago, and he was asked the inevitable question that he must get sick of, 'Will you be working with Ricky Gervais again?'
He said as usual that he wouldn't rule it out, but added something like, Ricky was definitely important in my career and in me making my name, but if I hadn't met him I was still ambitious enough to have been successful on my own by hook or by crook. He definitely used that last phrase.
As far as I can tell, the subject of Merchant seems to be off-limits in Gervais interviews, or he's just not asked about him (I might have missed examples though); so did they fall out over Merchant being determined to do his own thing to prove himself on his own terms, and Gervais isn't happy about it?

I think this is absolutely the case.

You could maybe argue Merchant just hasn't come up in interviews promoting Afterlife or his shitty standup but when Gervais has done episodes of podcasts being interviewed by super fans about The Office and Merchant still hasn't been mentioned once then it seems suspicious.

I'd also love to know what was the final straw that caused the breakup. Looking back Merchant seems incredibly bored and sidelined anytime he's on camera during Idiot Abroad 2 and Lifes too Short.
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Post by: Twonty Gostelow on December 08, 2021, 11:45:19 AM
Quote from: DigForVictory on December 08, 2021, 11:13:24 AMI think this is absolutely the case.

You could maybe argue Merchant just hasn't come up in interviews promoting Afterlife or his shitty standup but when Gervais has done episodes of podcasts being interviewed by super fans about The Office and Merchant still hasn't been mentioned once then it seems suspicious.

I'd also love to know what was the final straw that caused the breakup. Looking back Merchant seems incredibly bored and sidelined anytime he's on camera during Idiot Abroad 2 and Lifes too Short.

All I can remember of Merchant in LTS is him sitting alongside Gervais in all the office scenes and being weirdly underused, as you say. Maybe he was in other scenes that I've forgotten, but he definitely wasn't a primary character like he'd been in Extras. Maybe they fell out after Merchant saw the walls had posters for The Office, Ghost Town, Flanimals etc and asked him if he'd lost his mind.
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 08, 2021, 12:27:00 PM
Is anyone else wondering if Ricky Gervais is considering doing the whole Hugh Laurie thing and recording an album and doing a tour as a serious musician?

The sad thing is he's got enough fans that the tour would probably be a sellout, and his fans would fall over themselves trying to claim his music is great and they had a good time.
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Post by: Ferris on December 08, 2021, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: DigForVictory on December 08, 2021, 11:13:24 AMI'd also love to know what was the final straw that caused the breakup. Looking back Merchant seems incredibly bored and sidelined anytime he's on camera during Idiot Abroad 2 and Lifes too Short.

Yeah it's a mystery why Merchant called it a day with the Rickster.
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Post by: frajer on December 08, 2021, 02:20:18 PM
Oh and never count your money
Pay someone to do it for you
While you fart on your wife's pillow
and cackle when she says she smells poo
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Post by: DigForVictory on December 09, 2021, 12:44:46 AM
Quote from: Ferris on December 08, 2021, 01:35:25 PMYeah it's a mystery why Merchant called it a day with the Rickster.

He must have regretted being in them even as they were happening.

He looked fucking miserable in Lifes too Short and rightly so.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on December 09, 2021, 08:52:58 AM
I had a dream last night where Gervais was starring in a new sitcom called "Two Up, Two Down" where he started dating a woman, and when he found out she had two children with Down Syndrome his little eyes lit up with joy. Thankfully I woke up before the misery really kicked in, but I'm posting it here just in case it wasn't a dream but a vision of the future.
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Post by: dead-ced-dead on December 09, 2021, 08:58:26 AM
Quote from: DigForVictory on December 09, 2021, 12:44:46 AMHe must have regretted being in them even as they were happening.

He looked fucking miserable in Lifes too Short and rightly so.

Not to get too armchair psychiatrist, but I wonder if he only appeared in them due to a lingering sense of dependency.

Gervais was "the face" of The Office and Extras after all, and I bet if you were to ask 100 people who created-directed-wrote The Office, Extras or anything they were involved in, 99 people would say Gervais, not Gervais and Merchant. So perhaps he felt he hadn't yet earned his freedom.
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Post by: The Ombudsman on December 09, 2021, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on December 09, 2021, 08:58:26 AMNot to get too armchair psychiatrist, but I wonder if he only appeared in them due to a lingering sense of dependency.

Gervais was "the face" of The Office and Extras after all, and I bet if you were to ask 100 people who created-directed-wrote The Office, Extras or anything they were involved in, 99 people would say Gervais, not Gervais and Merchant. So perhaps he felt he hadn't yet earned his freedom.

Just something else on this general point about the two - I saw some podcast thing with Merchant recently where he was talking about having met with Karl recently. It's nice to know the two of them still speak and says a lot about Gervais. He's lost a good few close pals it seems (thinking Robin Ince, who got totally fucked off with his antics, Jonathan Ross, Karl P, Merchant). I wonder how many there are?
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Post by: phes on December 09, 2021, 03:18:07 PM
Not sure that Gervais has ever suggested that longstanding friends are an important part of his life, has he?

Maybe he couldn't care less
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Post by: The Ombudsman on December 09, 2021, 03:26:33 PM
Quote from: phes on December 09, 2021, 03:18:07 PMNot sure that Gervais has ever suggested that longstanding friends are an important part of his life, has he?

Maybe he couldn't care less

Yeah, whenever he speaks it's all about him. I doubt he cares much, past his other half.
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Post by: idunnosomename on December 09, 2021, 03:51:31 PM
It's Jane Fallon's birthday today so he's posted a picture on Twitter... of himself laughing.
Is this a bit he does every year or something?

Also i looked through the QTs of his fucking godawful song and theyre all "im not crying your crying", not one mention of how cringe it is.

Oh and this which made me laugh

(https://i.imgur.com/YJkGCAP.jpg)
Wokes wont even let us enjoy godawful smaltzy wank now
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Post by: Pimhole on December 09, 2021, 03:57:41 PM
Quote from: The Ombudsman on December 09, 2021, 03:15:43 PMJonathan Ross

Really? What happened there?
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Post by: DigForVictory on December 09, 2021, 07:56:38 PM
Jonathan Ross and Gervais must have fallen out a long long time ago because Ross has been on ITV now for over 10 years and  I don't think Gervais has been on once.

He was on almost every week for the BBC version of his chat show.

I seem to recall Ross tweeting at Gervais to shut up after one of the classic endless Gervais rants about free speech and offence and all that.
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Post by: Mobius on December 09, 2021, 08:31:57 PM
I wonder if Gervais keeps in touch with Louis CK
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Post by: frajer on December 09, 2021, 08:34:09 PM
I wonder if he's still waiting for his high five from Chris Rock. The occasional phantom tingle in his palm.
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Post by: Noodle Lizard on December 09, 2021, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: Mobius on December 09, 2021, 08:31:57 PMI wonder if Gervais keeps in touch with Louis CK

CK seemed to have been rid of him at least a few years before his #cancellation (along with plenty of his other comic friends). I don't think CK's mentioned him since, but Gervais came to his defense after his Parkland routine leaked.
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Post by: Vroomo on December 17, 2021, 12:49:02 PM
The front page of tomorrow's Guardian magazine is the After Life promo machine lurching into action with a Ricky interview on "why provoking people is so important".
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 17, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
Fuck off Guardian.

Wonder when it's out? I could google it, I suppose.
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 17, 2021, 01:18:36 PM
January 14th:

https://twitter.com/NetflixUK/status/1470793248390225922
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Post by: frajer on December 17, 2021, 03:05:27 PM
"One final season." After one first season and one middle season. Epic.

Surprised they didn't trot out "the final in the trilogy."
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 17, 2021, 03:26:28 PM
Is it no longer being billed as "From the mind of Ricky Gervais"? Did sesson 3 come from his arse instead?
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Post by: Twit 2 on December 18, 2021, 11:04:58 AM
Quote from: Vroomo on December 17, 2021, 12:49:02 PMThe front page of tomorrow's Guardian magazine is the After Life promo machine lurching into action with a Ricky interview on "why provoking people is so important".

What an interview. The interviewer has got his number I reckon. Gervais comes across as a massive cunt and a disingenuous grubby little narcissist. Grit your teeth and dive in:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/dec/18/ricky-gervais-on-offence-anger-and-infuriating-hollywood
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Post by: Cuellar on December 18, 2021, 11:25:19 AM
Yeah, interesting.

It's full of revealing things from Gervais. E.g.:

QuoteGervais's stance on appropriate subjects for a joke is simple – anything goes. In a democracy, he says, you have a right to offend and be offended, but you don't have the right to outlaw topics.

Compare with:

QuoteWhat he doesn't understand is the criticism he gets for giving the stars a tough time. "Do I pander to the 200 billionaires in the room or the 200 million people at home sitting in their pants drinking beer who aren't winning awards, who aren't billionaires? It's a no-brainer for a comedian. I'm a jester. I play to the other peasants in the mud. I wasn't going in terrible. Think of the things I could have said." He starts to give it the full Joe Pesci as he works himself into a rage. "Think of the fucking terrible things I could have joked about. It's off the charts – It's. Off. The. Charts – the terrible things I could say."

Well if nothing is off limits, why didn't he?
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Post by: Twit 2 on December 18, 2021, 11:40:40 AM
Oh yeah, the whole thing is riddled with contradictions and hypocrisies.
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Post by: frajer on December 18, 2021, 11:54:15 AM
An endlessly fascinating man. I know it's been said a million times but it really is like Merchant's turned the camera on him for one of his improvised Brent monologues.

It's a shame he doesn't embrace all the weird contradictory and aggressive energy that oozes out of him and turn it into something interesting again.
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 18, 2021, 12:06:32 PM
That's what's always annoyed me about his shit Emmy speeches. He always hypes them up for ages beforehand about how edgy and offensive they'll be - and then it's all hacky shit that other people have done already. He's never done anything resembling the bravery of, say, Hannibal Burress calling out Bill Cosby.

He's chased the approval of Hollywood celebs for years, and he lobs some acceptable trendy softballs at easy targets so he can appear like an outsider while still being in the circle. He claims to be a peasant entertaining the other peasants, but I think he more closely resembles Chris Morris' quote about placating the court.
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Post by: idunnosomename on December 18, 2021, 12:19:28 PM
The Guardian interviewer and writing is awful. But I like he has a mug with his face on it
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Post by: thelittlemango on December 18, 2021, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on December 18, 2021, 12:06:32 PMThat's what's always annoyed me about his shit Emmy speeches. He always hypes them up for ages beforehand about how edgy and offensive they'll be - and then it's all hacky shit that other people have done already.

But he's drinking a pint while he does it, that's edgy isn't it?
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Post by: Ferris on December 18, 2021, 01:00:59 PM
I like all the trump-tier stuff about how he's doing better than everyone else but is clearly seething beneath the surface. He also can't mention anyone without dropping that they think he's great. I laughed out loud at how absurd the hislop name drop was.
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Post by: Cuellar on December 18, 2021, 01:02:04 PM
He is at least still quite perceptive. His characterisation of twitter as a medium as 'road rage' is quite accurate, but then he still seems to think it has real value and can and should be used to guide your creative endeavours. I think it can be fatal for someone like Gervais, as far as he presents himself in this intveriew, who is desperately seeking approval. The bit at the end where a passer-by compliments one his Golden Globe jokes and he seems genuinely happy (as you would). Twitter is probably dreadful for this sort of creative person, because you can find any opinion on it. So anything you put out will find its fans, and you can just choose to listen to them. Then you end up in a negative feedback loop, 'well I'll put this out and see what they think - oh they love it! - well I'll keep doing more of that sort of thing - oh they love it! - well let's do more then...'. It's perhaps why he harps on about causing offence and upsetting people so much; ultimately he doesn't want to really offend or upset people, he wants them to like him.

It might be too broad a point, but maybe if he focused less on creating something that 'everybody' on twitter loved and more on something that he alone thought was good and worth making, he might end up with something of value.

I think his 'jester' comment is more revealing than he intended. The jester isn't just a random peasant the nobility tolerate. He makes a living only with their permission, speaking 'truth' to Power safely, with Power knowing this 'truth' poses no material threat whatsoever.
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Post by: H-O-W-L on December 18, 2021, 01:14:38 PM
I shit my own artwork on to Twitter a lot and I found that I had to stop listening to input/requests from it and just throw out what I wanted to make for exactly that reason @Cuellar .
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Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on December 18, 2021, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on December 18, 2021, 12:19:28 PMBut I like he has a mug with his face on it

that's his head
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on December 18, 2021, 01:16:56 PM
Poor Stephen:

QuoteDid Merchant help discipline you as a writer? "No, The Office was the first thing I'd ever tried my hardest at..."

It's definitely funny how he thinks reading twitter is keeping him in touch with ordinary people. No wonder his interests seem to be imaginary wokeness and cute animals.

QuoteThere's been something strange about our meeting, but I can't quite place what. Only towards the end, when we've been talking for more than 90 minutes, does it strike me that he has not used my name once. Nor has he asked what it is. In fact he's not asked me a single thing. Most interviewees engage on a basic level – where have you come from today, do you like your job, what do you think of this or that? Not Gervais, though. I don't think I've ever met anybody less interested in other people.

Top work from Simon Hattenstone there.
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Post by: Ferris on December 18, 2021, 01:30:58 PM
I think his stuff about twitter is revealing, but only because it reveals the dichotomy of gervais as someone who just wants to entertain and speak for the people (and by the way did you hear After Life was the most watched...zzz), but he also refers to it as an asylum that he can have chuckle at from his expensive house.

So is he a populist speaking truth to power on behalf of the little guy? Or the man who who sneers at his fans in anecdotes about the last time he met deniro?

Man without a country, not accepted by the elites but also loathes his audience so now he walks an uncomfortable line and seems miserable as a result. The idea of twitter being road rage is also 10+ years out of date but there you go.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hex Triplet on December 18, 2021, 02:18:28 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 18, 2021, 01:00:59 PMI like all the trump-tier stuff about how he's doing better than everyone else but is clearly seething beneath the surface. He also can't mention anyone without dropping that they think he's great. I laughed out loud at how absurd the hislop name drop was.

I also liked the bit at the end where some random bloke on the street walks past and says "that was a brilliant joke, Ricky".
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Post by: Cuellar on December 18, 2021, 02:25:19 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 18, 2021, 01:00:59 PMI like all the trump-tier stuff about how he's doing better than everyone else but is clearly seething beneath the surface. He also can't mention anyone without dropping that they think he's great. I laughed out loud at how absurd the hislop name drop was.

There does seem to be some sort of strange proportional relationship between Kindness and Anger in the Later Works of Ricky Gervais. Derek is a really angry show, real rage behind a lot of it, the token cunt in each episode appearing so one of the heroes can give them a real or metaphorical chinning. And the graphic and detailed threats levelled at the fat ginger kid in After Life, or the smashing up of the breakfast (or whatever it was) when the waitress is being a bit moody.

You have to be angry at the world, to be kind to the world. But you can't be angry at everybody, or else there'd be no one left to be kind to.
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Post by: Ferris on December 18, 2021, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: Cuellar on December 18, 2021, 02:25:19 PMYou have to be angry at the world, to be kind to the world. But you can't be angry at everybody, or else there'd be no one left to be kind to.

After Life Christmas special first draft final draft has let itself go.
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Post by: sevendaughters on December 18, 2021, 02:44:24 PM
The subtlest and funniest bit was

QuoteGervais, 60
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Post by: Blue Jam on December 18, 2021, 03:27:35 PM
Quote from: Cuellar on December 18, 2021, 02:25:19 PMYou have to be angry at the world, to be kind to the world. But you can't be angry at everybody, or else there'd be no one left to be kind to.

"You have to kill people to respect people, but you can't kill everybody because then there'd be no-one to respect."
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Post by: BritishHobo on December 18, 2021, 03:38:04 PM
Fascinating how quickly he moves on from all the questions that really nail him - why he's obsessed with fat people, how he feels about Ash Atalla calling out his other obsession with drawing attention to people's disabilities - and shifts the topic into banal generalities. Still after all these years he's parroting that "some people are not bright enough to get his jokes; they confuse the subject with the target", his shit, lazy get-out. But his jokes really aren't that clever. And he seems to be the only comedian who has to keep saying that people are misunderstanding. Most other comedians who get shit for their jokes will double down, but at least have the conviction that they mean what they said. Gervais is stuck in this bizarre purgatory where he's too cowardly to defend the things he clearly thinks, so he's constantly filtering them through half-baked irony and then trying to claim he doesn't think them - while also courting the very audience who love him for thinking them.

What a boob.
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Post by: sevendaughters on December 19, 2021, 04:13:49 AM
Wrong thread
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Post by: ElTwopo on December 19, 2021, 10:37:34 PM
QuoteAs Gervais is quick to point out, After Life was the most watched British comedy in the world in the past decade, having been viewed by more than 85 million people.

He's the comedy equivalent of Richmond sausages.
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Post by: DigForVictory on December 19, 2021, 11:45:02 PM
It's hard to tell because he retweets Afterlife stuff about 2000 times a day but I don't think he's mentioned anything on his twitter about this Guardian interview. And he's never normally shy in promoting anything he does.

He comes across as an absolute tit throughout, saying the same fucking shite over and over about offence and wokeism etc. Again, can't seem to bare the thought of talking about Merchant at all.

My favourite part was the interviewer correctly saying that for all his money and him constantly going on about how happy he is, he really doesn't seem happy at all.
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Post by: Mobius on December 19, 2021, 11:48:30 PM
Comes across as such an insecure unfunny cunt in that interview. Brilliant stuff.
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Post by: Leo2112 on December 20, 2021, 01:32:28 AM
That Guardian piece rips him apart, I'm not surprised Gervais isn't promoting it anywhere.  What a deeply insecure and weird guy he is - his encounters with people he finds too noisy are quite unpleasant and passive aggressive.


Quote from: DigForVictory on December 19, 2021, 11:45:02 PMMy favourite part was the interviewer correctly saying that for all his money and him constantly going on about how happy he is, he really doesn't seem happy at all.

Yeah the interviewer is spot on there.  Gervais frequently retreats into boasts about his wealth, but it all just feels very hollow.
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Post by: neardark on December 20, 2021, 11:18:59 PM
He's turned into Andy Millman.
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Post by: Dickie_Anders on December 21, 2021, 12:06:27 AM
It is strange how the point of Extras was that you shouldn't sacrifice your integrity for commercial success, yet here Gervais is saying "all I ever cared about was viewership and ticket sales"
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 21, 2021, 12:14:20 AM
Ha ha inappropriate behaviour is hilarious, especially when it's really insulting.
But it's sad when someone you love dies :(
It's good to be kind.
Dogs are nice.
Everyone's an idiot except me!
ha ha
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Post by: idunnosomename on December 21, 2021, 12:35:09 AM
i wonder if he's thought of releasing his crap music for Christmas No. 1 to raise money for food banks or dogs trust. probably shouldnt give him any ideas.

HHHAHAHAHA *laughs into camera with mouth wide open so tongue looks like a bare arse*
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on December 21, 2021, 02:09:37 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on December 18, 2021, 12:19:28 PMThe Guardian interviewer and writing is awful.

What? Hattenstone is an excellent interviewer and that article quite rightly tears Gervais to shreds.
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Post by: Dog Botherer on December 21, 2021, 02:20:47 AM
Gervais comes across as a pathetic little toad in that interview, mostly surprised he has enough self awareness not to share it
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Post by: Leo2112 on December 21, 2021, 03:21:49 AM
He doesn't seem to have taken much heed of that 'kindness' message he's always going on about.  He actively appears to dislike people in general.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on December 21, 2021, 04:16:06 AM
Quote from: Leo2112 on December 21, 2021, 03:21:49 AMHe doesn't seem to have taken much heed of that 'kindness' message he's always going on about.  He actively appears to dislike people in general.

It's essentially him trying to market himself. He's trying to create the impression he has qualities he clearly doesn't have for the purposes of making money/dopamine.
He knows people should be nice to each other. He's heard that somewhere.
He likes animals. He realises that's a winner with the plebs.
And ooooooooooh he's so wise, he has 'conversations' with Sam Fucking Harris cos he's not a fraudulent wanker at all.
And yet he's NEVER REALLY TRIED. Thank fuck because there's already people weeping their tits out at After Life so spare us the mass suicides from the sheer raw real emotion that you are truly capable of please O Kind One.
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Post by: paruses on December 21, 2021, 08:46:17 AM
That Hampstead mansion thing jars. I know I'm stating the obvious but it's a real clanger and hangs in the air. It just doubles down on calling people mentally ill or criminal and that bit wasn't funny or insightful in the first place.  It's like he's doing his early 2000s schtick where he played the Brent /11 O'Clock Show persona in public and it still worked because he was novel and still likeable (or not just apparently an ego). 

Point of this post really is: can anyone pull off that "I'm so wealthy but self aware so it's OK" schtick? Frank Skinner does it and it never works and if anyone could do it I think he could. It always seems a non sequitur on his show unlike some of his name dropping or celeb-only activities that get rounded off with a "more relatable material" chide. Only really works with character acts far as I can think.

I am going to post this but bear in mind I woke up too soon.
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Post by: jobotic on December 21, 2021, 09:22:56 AM
Was going to steer well clear of that article but i might read it now. Will I have to see him with his mouth wide open or in a too tight £200 t-shirt though 'cos I can't face that right now?
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Post by: frajer on December 21, 2021, 09:37:18 AM
Quote from: jobotic on December 21, 2021, 09:22:56 AMWas going to steer well clear of that article but i might read it now. Will I have to see him with his mouth wide open or in a too tight £200 t-shirt though 'cos I can't face that right now?

It's a genuinely fascinating read.

But also yes, yes you will.
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Post by: jobotic on December 21, 2021, 09:38:12 AM
Bit early for that then. I'll try later.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on December 21, 2021, 01:13:04 PM
really enjoyed that interview. its clear that the writer is in the same boat as many of us that loved the office and extras and despair at the rubbish he has released since and the fact that he had previously rallied against it.Funny how he objected at saying how much he was worth when i'm sure he's boasted about it and mentioned actual figures in his stand-up before. Organising for a passing member of the public to tell you one of your jokes was good is so david brent its unreal.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on December 21, 2021, 01:50:13 PM
I rewatched extras a while back and found that I couldn't even enjoy that as much anymore. There were too many seeds of things that would go on to become Gervaisian tropes such as actors who are only there to be nasty, rude and overly honest and the restaurant scene with the kid with down syndrome was like testing the waters for shows like Derek. Just seems like such a prequel to everything that was to come. I think (IMO) that the office might be the only good comedy he did.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on December 21, 2021, 01:54:52 PM
There's a lot of stuff in Extras that makes me wonder how on earth I ever watched it and found Andy to be a likeable protagonist - like the repeated homophobia, or his comments about Warwick Davis. It's that weird Gervais thing where you have the ironic bigotry (Ashley Jensen and Steve Merchant's idiot characters always putting their foot in it), but he's so obsessed by difference that even the character who's supposed to be smart and likable is constantly saying weird things about disabled people and gay people.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dickie_Anders on December 21, 2021, 02:10:13 PM
Still love the XFM show (which of course was really the Karl Pilkington Show)

You do get the odd bit that acts as foreshadowing to later Gervais cringe though. Something I remember in particular is him waxing poetic about the Radiohead song "Bones", and how it speaks about old age. Derek fanatics will recognise that as the song used in a mortifying montage where somehow the documentary crew access the memories of the elderly, showing what they got up to when they was yung ;_;
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on December 21, 2021, 02:20:42 PM
Quote from: Dickie_Anders on December 21, 2021, 02:10:13 PMStill love the XFM show (which of course was really the Karl Pilkington Show)

You do get the odd bit that acts as foreshadowing to later Gervais cringe though. Something I remember in particular is him waxing poetic about the Radiohead song "Bones", and how it speaks about old age. Derek fanatics will recognise that as the song used in a mortifying montage where somehow the documentary crew access the memories of the elderly, showing what they got up to when they was yung ;_;

It's clever yeah? Because you didn't care about old people before, you just thought they were a bunch of grey wrinklies with a boiled sweet collection. Turns out that they all had lives before they were old Stew. Don't you see? Aaaaaaah. It's a good thing that there was a genius like Ricky Gervais around to point this out as I was just about to throw my granny in the bin.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on December 21, 2021, 02:28:54 PM
well, thats extras ruined as well then. heyho. talking of radiohead, his favourite album by them is 'the bends' which makes me judge him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on December 21, 2021, 02:32:12 PM
Ahhh yes, Derek relied on the music narrating the activities of the people on screen! I'd forgotten that. 'Tears stream down your face' wails Chris Martin as we cut to people crying, but it does the entire song. Every line has a visual cut of people doing like what the song says.

Edit: good lord. I watched the Coldplay montages. Really, genuinely once in a lifetime mad stuff. One involves a slo-mo of Gervais in character playing with puppies and it is played completely straight.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on December 21, 2021, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: Ferris on December 21, 2021, 02:32:12 PMAhhh yes, Derek relied on the music narrating the activities of the people on screen! I'd forgotten that. 'Tears stream down your face' wails Chris Martin as we cut to people crying, but it does the entire song. Every line has a visual cut of people doing like what the song says.

Edit: good lord. I watched the Coldplay montages. Really, genuinely once in a lifetime mad stuff. One involves a slo-mo of Gervais in character playing with puppies and it is played completely straight.

That's to show how kind he is. Would a non-kind person play with puppies? I think not.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Old Nehamkin on December 21, 2021, 02:44:53 PM
My main problem with Extras is how in the second series and the subsequent special it basically turns into an extended morality play about the terrible road Ricky Gervais might have gone down if he didn't have so much unerring integrity and artistic courage. You have Andy Millman rather unconvincingly getting to write and star in a BBC sitcom off the back of being a complete unknown with a pilot script, then - almost as unconvincingly - being pressured by the producers to turn the show from a naturalistic pared-down affair into a broad, garish studio sitcom, a smug caricature of a style of comedy which in the real-life mid-2000s was actually about as far out of fashion as it ever has been. And now Andy is a character who has gone from being a hopeless aspiring dramatic actor to an overnight success as a comedy writer/performer, who despite being the star and creator of a hit sitcom seems to have almost zero input into its actual content while also receiving total contempt and revulsion from any character who isn't portrayed as a gormless and unsavoury pleb.

It all just feels so contemptuous and self-congratulatory without having anything insightful or even vaguely recognisable to say about the media, the comedy industry or the nature of celebrity. By the end of the christmas special the revelation we're left with is that it's actually quite grubby and unfulfilling to achieve fame through something tacky like being in a shit sitcom that common people like, it's actually better to not be a celebrity at all or else to be a cool and classy celebrity who hangs about with Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld and has lots of Emmy Awards. Just don't gurn or do catchphrases in front of a studio audience, that would be unspeakably grim.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on December 21, 2021, 02:46:58 PM
Read the article and my first reaction is that most of it is bullshit.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on December 21, 2021, 03:00:31 PM
This one is great, because you can almost hear the direction at the old lady "older, more shambing and derelict, and get ready for the cue... 'back', ok great"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiNPi82gs88

This is the full 7 minutes of madness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzb_zwPYMmM

Some bleaker madness, more subtle; something for the connoisseur.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL82I32hG5o
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on December 21, 2021, 03:06:04 PM
Quote from: Old Nehamkin on December 21, 2021, 02:44:53 PMMy main problem with Extras is how in the second series and the subsequent special it basically turns into an extended morality play about the terrible road Ricky Gervais might have gone down if he didn't have so much unerring integrity and artistic courage. You have Andy Millman rather unconvincingly getting to write and star in a BBC sitcom off the back of being a complete unknown with a pilot script, then - almost as unconvincingly - being pressured by the producers to turn the show from a naturalistic pared-down affair into a broad, garish studio sitcom, a smug caricature of a style of comedy which in the real-life mid-2000s was actually about as far out of fashion as it ever had been. And now Andy is a character who has gone from being a hopeless aspiring dramatic actor to an overnight success as a comedy writer/performer, who despite being the star and creator of a hit sitcom seems to have almost zero input into its actual content while also receiving total contempt and revulsion from any character who isn't portrayed as a gormless and unsavoury pleb.

It all just feels so contemptuous and self-congratulatory without having anything insightful or even vaguely recognisable to say about the media, the comedy industry or the nature of celebrity. By the end of the christmas special the revelation we're left with is that it's actually quite grubby and unfulfilling to achieve fame through something tacky like being in a shit sitcom that common people like, it's actually better to not be a celebrity at all or else to be a cool and classy celebrity who hangs about with Chris Rock and Jerry Seinfeld and has lots of Emmy Awards. Just don't gurn or do catchphrases in front of a studio audience, that would be unspeakably grim.

Great thoughts. I always find looking back that stuff like Daniel Radcliffe being in a film about a magical boyscout, or all the old-hat shit with Kate Winslet talking about how you've got to do a Holocaust film to win an Oscar, it all feels like the work of a writer whose knowledge of the film industry is actually quite shallow, and is largely based on received wisdom and half-formed assumptions rather than a passion for and lifelong engagement with film.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on December 21, 2021, 03:11:20 PM
Quote from: Dickie_Anders on December 21, 2021, 02:10:13 PMYou do get the odd bit that acts as foreshadowing to later Gervais cringe though. Something I remember in particular is him waxing poetic about the Radiohead song "Bones", and how it speaks about old age. Derek fanatics will recognise that as the song used in a mortifying montage where somehow the documentary crew access the memories of the elderly, showing what they got up to when they was yung ;_;

I think Karl made up his interpretation of Wonderful Tonight because its the exactly the kind of thing Gervais would really get into.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on December 21, 2021, 03:11:48 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on December 21, 2021, 02:40:12 PMThat's to show how kind he is. Would a non-kind person play with puppies? I think not.

Somebody stick some Coldplay on top of this (https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/item/114024404-ww2-adolf-hitler-terrace-puppies-and-ghuests-berghof).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on December 21, 2021, 04:26:54 PM
I always thought "kindness is magic" was a play on My Little Pony. Didnt think it was an actual Gervais line.

There's a comment where someone said they dont usually believe in tattoos but theyre considering getting Joan's words done.


... to fix you
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Bumlord on December 22, 2021, 02:54:18 PM
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on December 21, 2021, 03:11:20 PMI think Karl made up his interpretation of Wonderful Tonight because its the exactly the kind of thing Gervais would really get into.

I've got an aching LEG


There's some thoroughly dodgy stuff in the XFM shows but they were a constant on my MP3 player back when I was thin and fair.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 01, 2022, 05:32:26 PM
The trailer just came out.


Looks like a confused mixture of vandalism, assault and Derek style kindness.

A Ricky Gervais production.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 01, 2022, 05:58:46 PM
"Caring is what matters" the grown man finally realises, before pouring ashes on the floor of a pub and kicking off when the owner isn't best pleased. Also looks like some amazing nuanced introspection where Kindness Superman feels bad about mocking Cancer Wife's belief in God. The ultimate taboo for Gervais.

Comments as ever full of people with their minds blown by the idea of a show that can make you laugh and cry. The way they talk, it's like they think Gervais has split the atom.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 01, 2022, 06:03:20 PM
Christ that looks bad. Didn't even use his own song and save a few quid on the licensing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Indomitable Spirit on January 01, 2022, 06:27:07 PM
"But there are angels! They don't have wings and live in clouds. They wear nurses uniforms and work hard to pay the rent... on their houses."

Gervais... you've done it again.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: shiftwork2 on January 01, 2022, 06:32:58 PM
Absolute wank.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 01, 2022, 06:37:39 PM
If you heave a brick through the window of someone's range rover because they don't stop for you at a crossing point, they will likely get out and batter you.

Separately; for all his talk of kindness, that car could have been packed with dogs and cancer children, one of whom now has a sore head from bricks :'(
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dickie_Anders on January 01, 2022, 06:38:08 PM
"Nurses are the real angels". Fair play Ricky, you had us for a while there. You just about got away with the song about the poor Dad who counts the lines around his woman's eyes. But there is absolutely no way, NO WAY this isn't a piss take
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on January 01, 2022, 06:56:54 PM
I'd have never imagined what a profoundly deep glorious soul Gervais is if he hadn't created this incredibly wonderful show for us... especially when he said "I hope it was his cock, you cunt".
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: non capisco on January 01, 2022, 07:20:43 PM
Was hoping this was the series where we get to see him tearfully watching the video his dying dog made for him.

"Rear Ricky, ron't rorry arout re, rust re rind."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 01, 2022, 07:26:51 PM
I got the impression he was particularly pleased with the cock /cunt line. It's going to be a favourite with the fans, I can tell already.

I've said it before but I am convinced Gervais is just a top level troll for those mystified by sentimentality, aphorisms, and swearing all in one place. Unfortunately this looks very boring. Technically brilliant, those who troll will say. The troll's troll. Not enough egomania for me though.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Beep Cleep Chimney on January 01, 2022, 07:29:16 PM
Christ, this really does look fucking appalling.

And my GOD, the replies to his tweet. https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1477278832302383108?s=20 (https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1477278832302383108?s=20)

"Such emotion - I cried watching it", "You are Angel, Ricky", "Loudly crying face emoji Loudly crying face emoji Loudly crying face emoji Loudly crying face emoji", etc, etc.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 01, 2022, 07:43:46 PM
God, is his wife still nattering on her deathbed?

QuoteDel:
I remember what Mum said on her death bed. She said to me: "Del," she said, "please give little Rodney all the encouragement that you can. Never, Del, never hold him back."

Rodney:
She didn't half say a lot on her death bed, didn't she?

Del:
What?

Rodney:
Whatever the subject is, Mum had something to say about it on her death bed. She must have spent her final few hours in this mortal realm doing nothing but rabbiting!

Del:
You are walking a bleeding tightrope here, Rodney!!!

Rodney:
No, hang on! Right, you remember last week we were having a row about whose turn it was to go down the chippy, yeah? And you claimed that Mum said on her death bed: "Send Rodney for the fish!"

Del:
Yeah well, I'd had a few, hadn't I?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 01, 2022, 07:51:05 PM
Quote from: Beep Cleep Chimney on January 01, 2022, 07:29:16 PMChrist, this really does look fucking appalling.

And my GOD, the replies to his tweet. https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1477278832302383108?s=20 (https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1477278832302383108?s=20)

"Such emotion - I cried watching it", "You are Angel, Ricky", "Loudly crying face emoji Loudly crying face emoji Loudly crying face emoji Loudly crying face emoji", etc, etc.

I've never seen anybody's fans talk with more hyperbole than Ricky Gervais' current fans. Every clip he shares, it's "Ricky you are an absolute genius, I never thought it possible to see every human emotion contained in one single scene, but you've managed it, you legendary artist. I am weeping, this is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen, my entire life is changed."

Just say it looks good you weirdos.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on January 01, 2022, 07:52:18 PM
Fucking hell, it's like a Harry and Paul parody of what a Ricky Gervais show is.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hswUfTrmJWQ
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 01, 2022, 08:46:31 PM
If you cried at the 1m58s clip that gervais tweeted out that involved throwing ashes in someone's face and hurling a brick through a car window, your grip on sanity is dangerously tenuous.

Must just go through life crying at cups and gerbils. Sad, really.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 01, 2022, 08:49:48 PM
Wow, that was somehow even worse than I expected. Cracking hatewatch. Won't bother with the series though, the trailer is as much as I can take.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 01, 2022, 09:49:10 PM
How many hours of video did Cancer Wife record? It's like in the later Saw films when they kept having to come up with more things that Jigsaw had done before he'd died, that would then slot into the story four sequels down the line.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 01, 2022, 09:54:50 PM
Even if you were one to like After Life when it came out, surely nobody really thought to themselves "Oh this premise has legs". He even had the good sense to end Derek after two long seasons. What's so evergreen about the concept of After Life that compelled him to break tradition?

I didn't watch the second series. His dad dies at the end? Like in series 2 of Derek where his dad dies at the end? Hope After Life remembered to include an incongruous speech immediately following the passing about how we live in a Godless universe and heaven definitely isn't real, if only to keep in line with the kind simple wisdom of Derek.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 01, 2022, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 01, 2022, 09:49:10 PMHow many hours of video did Cancer Wife record? It's like in the later Saw films when they kept having to come up with more things that Jigsaw had done before he'd died, that would then slot into the story four sequels down the line.

+Karma
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 01, 2022, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 01, 2022, 09:49:10 PMHow many hours of video did Cancer Wife record? It's like in the later Saw films when they kept having to come up with more things that Jigsaw had done before he'd died, that would then slot into the story four sequels down the line.

Yeah I wondered this as well. Must have recorded hours and hours of herself doing and saying stuff that is apposite for every occasion years later.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 01, 2022, 10:32:41 PM
Maybe ask the landlord of the pub for permission to sprinkle your dad's ashes there? Or have some respect for your fellow man and don't bloody do it?

It might work as comedy if Tony was embarrassed and flustered at getting caught and accidentally got some ashes in the landlord's mouth. That'd be crap but it'd be something.

But because it's a Gervais script, it's got to be the landlord who's somehow in the wrong for daring to not want cremated human ashes worked into his carpet, giving Gervais the chance to "win" yet again. Such rotten shite.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 01, 2022, 10:49:03 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on January 01, 2022, 09:54:50 PMEven if you were one to like After Life when it came out, surely nobody really thought to themselves "Oh this premise has legs". He even had the good sense to end Derek after two long seasons. What's so evergreen about the concept of After Life that compelled him to break tradition?

I definitely remember him saying before season 1, although I can't find the quote now, that it was only going to be one season, so even he didn't want to/didn't think he'd be asked to do any more. What changed? Probably just Netflix were up for it and he didn't have any ideas for anything else.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on January 01, 2022, 11:03:29 PM
He's so great isn't he?

Love how the brilliant cock/cunt was given to us twice - once in a sad, moving situation and then in case we'd missed how funny it was through the tears and hyperventilating he had his mate repeat it in the car so that Gervais could do his laugh and we would all do it too.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 01, 2022, 11:04:40 PM
Sprinkling cigarette ash on a pub carpet would be considered a dick move these days. Ash from cremated human remains? Just bang out of order. Also isn't throwing ashes at someone technically assault?

Repeating a joke is generally not a good move, but the same joke twice in a two-minute trailer?

Gervais has got no-one to reel him in at all has he?

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on January 02, 2022, 12:10:06 AM
Haha that trailer is mentally shit.. Why has he got this obsession with kindness though?? That's two sitcoms he's made now about how #kindnessismagic and is the thing to aspire to over everything else.. but why! I mean yeah trying to not be a dick is a worthwhile aim for sure but it's not really the be all and end all is it.. and even if it was why is it so important to tell the rest of us about this great insight of his over and over again when most people are aware of the concept of not being a twat to other people if you can help it. It's just weird.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 02, 2022, 12:19:44 AM
He's running on fumes from the Susan Boyle fallout. Derek was having the last word, Afterlife took kindness is magic, mashed it into The Office but made Andy's wife do a cancer so Gervais could eek out a few more years of lol ironic punching down. Now he's swearing in the pub and throwing stones though windows
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: billyandthecloneasaurus on January 02, 2022, 01:45:28 AM
Imagine being so thick you think this is good
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 02, 2022, 02:07:26 AM
He's going for the thicko basic crowd now and has been for some time. The people who go to the beach and write "live laugh love" in the sand, the people who have #blessed on their cushions at home. The people who think inspirational quote memes are the height of sophistication. These people are his fan-base now.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 02, 2022, 07:10:11 AM
Quote from: Armin Meiwes on January 02, 2022, 12:10:06 AMHaha that trailer is mentally shit.. Why has he got this obsession with kindness though?? That's two sitcoms he's made now about how #kindnessismagic and is the thing to aspire to over everything else.. but why!

The man so kind that all of his former collaborators won't work with him, basically because they're sick of being bullied.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Excellent_Biscuits on January 02, 2022, 07:38:01 AM
Can't be real. It just can't be.

He can't sit and write his 50th crying scene and actually think it's worth doing again.

And David Earl must just be looking at his bank balance and saying to himself "it's just a job, it's just a job"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 02, 2022, 07:42:41 AM
Hey, he could do a scene where he does a dance to try and look cool and up for a laugh but ends up looking a prat. 
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 02, 2022, 10:38:35 AM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 02, 2022, 02:07:26 AMHe's going for the thicko basic crowd now and has been for some time. The people who go to the beach and write "live laugh love" in the sand, the people who have #blessed on their cushions at home. The people who think inspirational quote memes are the height of sophistication. These people are his fan-base now.

I wonder if he's seen Bo Burnham's Inside and realised his target audience is essentially "White Woman's Instagram"?

I probably would buy an official CaB tea towel with "KINDNESS IS MAGIC - Derke" on it though.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 02, 2022, 10:42:07 AM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on January 01, 2022, 09:54:50 PMI didn't watch the second series.

I had a good hatewatch of series 1 but couldn't get beyond episode 1 of the second series. More than anything else it was just very boring. Also a complete waste of Annette Crosbie.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 02, 2022, 12:54:52 PM
lol angels work hard to pay the rent on their houses

Hello fellow normal people.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 02, 2022, 01:15:54 PM
Going to see The Tragedy Of Macbeth later. I wonder what Gervais thinks of Ralph Ineson doing Shakespeare and Chaucer and working with The Coen Brothers and being in Game of Thrones, Star Wars etc and just generally being a successful and respected serious actor who would probably turn his nose up at any Gervais script?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 02, 2022, 01:38:09 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 02, 2022, 01:15:54 PMGoing to see The Tragedy Of Macbeth later. I wonder what Gervais thinks of Ralph Ineson doing Shakespeare and Chaucer and working with The Coen Brothers and being in Game of Thrones, Star Wars etc and just generally being a successful and respected serious actor who would probably turn his nose up at any Gervais script?

That's probably true of a lot of actors who came through a Gervais sitcom. Martin Freeman, Mackenzie Crook, Lucy Davis, etc.

I doubt any would want to work with him. And that will probably be true of the actors in After Life once being in a successful Netflix show has propelled their status a bit: Tom Basden, Diane Morgan, Roisin Conaty etc.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 02, 2022, 01:44:00 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on January 02, 2022, 12:54:52 PMlol angels work hard to pay the rent on their houses

Hello fellow normal people.

"Are we sure about this line, Rick? Usually people pay the mortgage on their houses, or pay rent, but it doesn't really make sense the way you've phrased it. No you're right actually I don't give a shit either, why am I arguing? The audience won't hear it over their easily-conjured tears anyway. Easy money!"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 02, 2022, 01:45:39 PM
Imagine Ricky Gervais doing Shakespeare. He'd immediately lose interest in learning his lines, just go off and improvise, see he's losing them, do the dance, something about being kind, then scream "I HOPE IT WAS HIS COCK YOU CUNT".

Ah, yeah what was it, pray, remember the porter yeah. Ahahahaha!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 02, 2022, 02:45:23 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on January 02, 2022, 01:45:39 PMImagine Ricky Gervais doing Shakespeare. He'd immediately lose interest in learning his lines, just go off and improvise, see he's losing them, do the dance, something about being kind, then scream "I HOPE IT WAS HIS COCK YOU CUNT".

Ah, yeah what was it, pray, remember the porter yeah. Ahahahaha!

He'd probably spend the whole time going "COUNTRY MATTERS*!!! HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!" while doing a knowing leer.

*"Queynte" if he was doing Chaucer
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 02, 2022, 02:56:58 PM
Imagine him as Hamlet, holding a skull with its upper half and lower halves pushed together in his hands.

"Alas, poor Derek!"  As he exclaims thus, he pushes the jawbone forward then projects his own lower teeth in remembrance.
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Post by: Blue Jam on January 02, 2022, 03:01:36 PM
If he played Romeo he'd get Juliet's attention by sounding an air horn in the direction of the balcony then win her heart by throwing a bucket of water over her.

Bravo, Phoenix Lazarus, I can't top that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wrec on January 02, 2022, 03:24:42 PM
He feels bad for mocking his dead wife's ridiculous religious beliefs because I suppose at the end of the day maybe she needed some comforting nonsense to cling to in the face of terminal illness. Would it have been kinder to refrain from explaining to her that there is no God or afterlife and religion is lies? She did tell him just to be Tony, yeah? so maybe explaining the truth was a greater Kind.

I presume Derek was somehow a staunch atheist too?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on January 02, 2022, 03:48:12 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 01, 2022, 05:32:26 PMThe trailer just came out.


Looks like a confused mixture of vandalism, assault and Derek style kindness.

A Ricky Gervais production.
I keep thinking about this. About just how bad it looks. It looks dreadful. The Office made me laugh more than anything in a long time (I still say "Where's your cutoff?" in the rare event anyone mentions either Yazz or Yazoo. Some lines just pop into my head at surprising times: "Messing my head with your '4-Non Blondes'", "He's thrown a kettle over a pub, what have you done?", "Einstein, Newton... I'd go Milligan, Cleese, Everett. Sessions.") I loved The Office and I can't believe just how far away from that this is. Awful, lazy, hackneyed, embarrassing crap.
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Post by: idunnosomename on January 02, 2022, 04:16:14 PM
The music drop for the first "joke" really shows how shit it all is
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Post by: Dickie_Anders on January 02, 2022, 04:44:10 PM
From the sick, twisted, psychotic mind of Ricky Gervais
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Post by: JamesTC on January 02, 2022, 05:17:16 PM
I haven't cried this much since I got my bellend caught in a motorised pencil sharpener. You've done it again, Ricky!
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Post by: Ferris on January 02, 2022, 05:49:44 PM
Haven't cried this much since I listened to the song he wrote last month.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on January 02, 2022, 06:14:18 PM
The way the fans react to this show really is baffling. I've been trying to figure it out and I think it's got something to do with the mass consumption of front page Netflix trash. I get the feeling big streaming companies basically want to corner the market for a handful of styles of content - action, comedy, KINDNESS - and push one particular show at a time as this week's best new thing you have to watch. Since channel hopping barely exists any more, unless you're watching old favourites a lot of people are just mindlessly whacking on whatever comes up first.

Gervais has managed to create the pathos soaked comedy equivalent of a hallmark Christmas film, Netflix have gone "fucking YES KINDNESS, that sells" and the reason a third series of this exists against his original intentions is because it's easy money for everyone. People online are brainwashed into thinking this is now literally the only show about kindness that ever existed. Netflix is contributing heavily to keeping the boomer mentality of "they don't make 'em like this any more" alive in its viewers and it's the death knell for artistic diversity and independence. There's a reason they don't make 'em like this any more and it has nothing to do with people not being kind any more. Vile consumer capitalism. Cancel your Netflix subscriptions.

I came to this realisation at a friend's house over Xmas. He showed me School of Chocolate (basically a crappy OTT American Bake Off for chocolate sculptures) and was eager to show me just how empathetic and understanding the host/main chef was, just because he offered some words of encouragement and support every now and then. This is because the market for POPULAR ANGRY CHEF content on Netflix was obviously getting stale after god knows how many years so WHOA they're switching it up! This guy's quite kind! NO, HE IS THE LIVING EMBODIMENT OF KINDNESS.

This is why so many people seem to think Adele is the greatest pop star in the world. Mate. She's quite good at best. Neo-soul isn't just one person. Stop consuming what's shoved in your face for five minutes.

God it's so depressing.
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Post by: Ferris on January 02, 2022, 06:25:31 PM
Quote from: The Mollusk on January 02, 2022, 06:14:18 PMGervais has managed to create the pathos soaked comedy equivalent of a hallmark Christmas film

Yeah, it's Detectorists for people who read the Sun. Nothing too challenging, spell it out for me, and if I ever get too worried I'm straying into "feelings" territory he can mock an overweight person and I'm back on board. Brilliant, how does he do it.

The fact that it's also just there, on the front bit of Netflix so I don't have to think about it before putting it on is icing on the cake. There's good money in that market, how many records did the cynical cunts behind X Factor sell?

QuoteGod it's so depressing.

Also yes.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 06:42:53 PM
Quote from: The Mollusk on January 02, 2022, 06:14:18 PMPeople online are brainwashed into thinking this is now literally the only show about kindness that ever existed. Netflix is contributing heavily to keeping the boomer mentality of "they don't make 'em like this any more" alive in its viewers and it's the death knell for artistic diversity and independence.

That's all very debatable. Citation needed.

The reaction you're seeing is the type of people that write trash and memes and crap online. People who think Facebook is great. Millions of other unknown people think Gervais is laughable and shit, they just aren't as vocal about it.

I get the impression from 40 year old Gervais that he valued well written, personal work but 60 year old Gervais will basically just fart in  jar and sell it to Netflix for 10 million. Maybe that's the way he always was. The "songs" in Afterlife are so close to Gervais's earlier parody songs like Freelove Freeway that it's hard not to think he's having us all on. Gervais is into music so he must know how catastrophically shit these Afterlife songs are.

I can't quite shake the feeling that 40 year old Gervais would be embarrassed at what he has become. An artistic husk flogging garbage to a streaming service for yet more piles of cash that he doesn't really need, lauded on Twitter by clueless berks with no taste and even less sense. Or maybe he'd just be impressed that 60 year old him had ready access to warm water and plenty of clean, dry underwear.

As for Gervais's past acquaintances no longer speaking to him, he only bullies people who will put up with it (not excusing it, obviously) like Karl and that but anyone he respects rarely say a bad word about working with him. I get the feeling Merchant just wanted to do other things and they never really liked each other that much anyway. Karl probably wanted to move on as well, being farted on was the push he needed.

Don't be surprised if Godliman, Earl and Basden are suddenly no longer working with Gervais after their career gets a sufficient boost from working with the chubby funster.
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Post by: The Mollusk on January 02, 2022, 06:56:04 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 06:42:53 PMThat's all very debatable. Citation needed.

I was obviously being hyperbolic and speaking in not too distant future tense but it is nevertheless true. Watch it happen. Anything with life in it will fester and rot away if it's not preserved.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on January 02, 2022, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 06:42:53 PMThe reaction you're seeing is the type of people that write trash and memes and crap online. People who think Facebook is great. Millions of other unknown people think Gervais is laughable and shit, they just aren't as vocal about it.

I'm sure they are being as vocal about it but you don't see that stuff because that's not how algorithms of comment sections work, least of all on YouTube whose dislike button has zero function.
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Post by: Armin Meiwes on January 02, 2022, 08:02:03 PM
The sub-reddit set up in his honour absolutely hates everything he's done in the last decade or so, which says a lot. The highest rated comment under someone posting the afterlife trailer was "Pop that in the bin", lol.
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Post by: madhair60 on January 02, 2022, 08:10:55 PM
In the first series of this, didn't the main character give drug money to his addict friend who then overdosed and died, and absolutely nothing came of it?
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Post by: The Mollusk on January 02, 2022, 08:21:33 PM
Quote from: madhair60 on January 02, 2022, 08:10:55 PMIn the first series of this, didn't the main character give drug money to his addict friend who then overdosed and died, and absolutely nothing came of it?

He was doing the man a kind favour. The rocket man.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 02, 2022, 08:50:35 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 06:42:53 PMI can't quite shake the feeling that 40 year old Gervais would be embarrassed at what he has become. An artistic husk flogging garbage to a streaming service for yet more piles of cash that he doesn't really need, lauded on Twitter by clueless berks with no taste and even less sense.


It's funny how it's exactly what happened to Andy Millman.
I think that's not an accident either. Gervais was self aware enough to incorporate his own negative tendencies into Brent, because he recognised they were funny.
In a similar vein, I think his obsession with people selling out for awards and popularity is probably because he saw the potential for those tendencies in himself, even if he wasn't necessarily conscious of it. So it came out in his work.

QuoteI get the feeling Merchant just wanted to do other things and they never really liked each other that much anyway.

I think that's true. But he was still a bully towards Steve in a low key way, and I think that'd be tiring to be around too. In the XFM shows he's constantly stirring Karl to attack Steve, or just doing it himself, and he's happy to scream and rant to Steve in a way that I doubt he'd do to someone he respects more. It's probably not THE reason Steve won't work with him but I doubt it would help.
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Post by: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 02, 2022, 08:50:35 PMhe's happy to scream and rant to Steve in a way that I doubt he'd do to someone he respects more

Oh there's no way he would even look sideways at someone like Samuel L Jackson or Robert DeNiro. Ricky met Steve when Ricky was the star of the show and Steve was just an entry level guy in his early twenties so I'm sure there's a power dynamic there. I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky is convinced he made Steve the way he's sure he made Karl.

You could probably write a book about Ricky's various different dealings with people who he perceives to be on different social and economic levels.
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Post by: Armin Meiwes on January 02, 2022, 09:21:33 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 08:59:05 PMOh there's no way he would even look sideways at someone like Samuel L Jackson or Robert DeNiro. Ricky met Steve when Ricky was the star of the show and Steve was just an entry level guy in his early twenties so I'm sure there's a power dynamic there. I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky is convinced he made Steve the way he's sure he made Karl.

You could probably write a book about Ricky's various different dealings with people who he perceives to be on different social and economic levels.

Yeah I think it's more that - I don't think Ricky was ever being nasty or bullying to Steve on the XFM shows (not to my ears anyway) but I do get the sense he felt he brought more to the party than Steve.. also I suspect they did have genuine creative differences, I mean when you look at the sort of shit RG churns out now compared to what Steve is doing.. I mean I would put neither Hello Ladies nor The Outlaws down as the very best of TV but they are absolutely head and shoulders (and torso and legs) above anything that RG has done since they stopped working together. They were clearly moving in v different directions.
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Post by: poodlefaker on January 02, 2022, 09:34:21 PM
Fuck me, it's like Call the Midwife but then somebody says "cunt".
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 02, 2022, 09:59:03 PM
Quote from: Armin Meiwes on January 02, 2022, 09:21:33 PMYeah I think it's more that - I don't think Ricky was ever being nasty or bullying to Steve on the XFM shows (not to my ears anyway) but I do get the sense he felt he brought more to the party than Steve.. also I suspect they did have genuine creative differences, I mean when you look at the sort of shit RG churns out now compared to what Steve is doing.. I mean I would put neither Hello Ladies nor The Outlaws down as the very best of TV but they are absolutely head and shoulders (and torso and legs) above anything that RG has done since they stopped working together. They were clearly moving in v different directions.

The difference between Steve and Ricky as writers is that Steve understands the mechanical functions of storytelling and screenwriting - often to a fault (there's a scene in The Outlaws where two characters spell out each character's "type", which should be more organic and less mechanical. This can also be said to be a flaw with Fighting With My Family - every story beat of the sports/coming of age story is hit exactly at the point the rule books say it should be hit). So if Merchant has a flaw is that he's OVERLY aware of screenwriting fundamentals, which for me prevents his work from hitting greatness, but I've at least overall enjoyed all his solo work, if not loved it. He understands the basics of rising and falling actions, three act structures, character arcs etc etc etc.

Any working screenwriter should know these fundamentals.

The problem with Gervais is that he doesn't. Supporting characters exist only to praise or be the straw man for Gervais. His leading character is untouchable up until the point when something has to happen for the climax, at which point ALL THE DRAMA happens. There are no arcs or any evidence that Gervais is even aware how to write a screenplay. The are no three-acts, there's just stuff that happens until it's time for the indie rock song is ready to play over the credits.

For all my gripes about Merchant, I'd take someone who has done too much homework over someone who just doesn't care.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 02, 2022, 10:07:49 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 08:59:05 PMOh there's no way he would even look sideways at someone like Samuel L Jackson or Robert DeNiro. Ricky met Steve when Ricky was the star of the show and Steve was just an entry level guy in his early twenties so I'm sure there's a power dynamic there. I wouldn't be surprised if Ricky is convinced he made Steve the way he's sure he made Karl.

Although deep down inside, Gervais must be fully aware of how much Merchant brought to the table. Hence why he no longer acknowledges his erstwhile partner's pivotal involvement in The Office, he just cannot allow himself to admit that his one truly great piece of work was partly shaped by someone else. That doesn't fit with the genius auteur narrative he's built around himself.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on January 02, 2022, 10:17:35 PM
Everything I've read of what he's said in interviews sounds like a spoiled twelve year-old and his solo sitcoms seem to have a similar level of emotional maturity (from the literal minutes I could stand watching them).
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Post by: phes on January 02, 2022, 10:22:30 PM
is he still burbling on about that just because you're offended crap or has he shut the fuck up since actual beserk cunt Linehan strode in and said hold my beer
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 02, 2022, 10:22:45 PM
Ironically, Pilkington's unexpected foray into narrative drama/comedy has been the most interesting. Sick Of It was far more interesting than Hello Ladies, I thought, and miles beyond the likes of Derek or After Life.

Of course, it got nowhere near the same attention as any of those, despite being objectively better. If you haven't watched it yet, I highly recommend doing so.
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Post by: Dickie_Anders on January 02, 2022, 10:29:17 PM
Gervais desperately wants his comedy to be "about something", and all he can muster is platitudes. Pilkington doesn't even have to try, he can say stuff off-the-cuff as a joke and it'll be 10X more original and thought provoking than anything in Derek or After Life
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Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 02, 2022, 10:32:51 PM
Sick of It was brilliant.
It's funny Gervais and merchant berated him for being an idiot but he's got the most funny, subtle and thought provoking solo work of them all.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on January 02, 2022, 10:36:12 PM
No but he's an idiot! It's not an act! I know someone who thinks this.

An idiot who managed to become a senior producer at a radio station eh.
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Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 02, 2022, 10:41:24 PM
When I've dipped back into the xfm shows I'm struck by how quick Karl is and how intentionally funny he is. I think he's not the idiot the others make him out to be.
Having said that I do think his brain works in a weird way and that's broadly not an act,but maybe I'm being naive
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 02, 2022, 10:43:29 PM
Bowie's song in Extras was meant as a joke.  It's turned out prescient.
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Post by: Captain Z on January 02, 2022, 10:43:33 PM
I mean this guy was a real Derke
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 02, 2022, 10:43:40 PM
A spot-on assessment of Merchant, dead-ced-dead.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on January 02, 2022, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 02, 2022, 10:41:24 PMWhen I've dipped back into the xfm shows I'm struck by how quick Karl is and how intentionally funny he is. I think he's not the idiot the others make him out to be.
Having said that I do think his brain works in a weird way and that's broadly not an act,but maybe I'm being naive

The reason he's telling us these thoughts is precisely because he knows they are unusual, I think.
That's not 'weird' to me, that's imagination.
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Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 02, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 02, 2022, 10:43:40 PMA spot-on assessment of Merchant, dead-ced-dead.

I aim to please.
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Post by: checkoutgirl on January 02, 2022, 10:50:18 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 02, 2022, 10:41:24 PMI think he's not the idiot the others make him out to be.

A debate as old as the XFM shows. Karl plays up to his most idiotic tendencies for comic effect on those shows. He often pretends to not know what something means or is for the sake of creating humourous conversations. It's quite common and it surprises me how many people don't realise what's going on there.

That's not to say there aren't plenty of situations where he honestly doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about, he's not very highly educated in a formal sense.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 02, 2022, 10:50:59 PM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on January 02, 2022, 10:46:43 PMThe reason he's telling us these thoughts is precisely because he knows they are unusual, I think.
That's not 'weird' to me, that's imagination.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 02, 2022, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: Ferris on January 02, 2022, 06:25:31 PMYeah, it's Detectorists for people who read the Sun.

Nicely put
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Post by: Dickie_Anders on January 02, 2022, 10:54:45 PM
Pilkington is obviously fairly intelligent. I don't think it's an "act", as in he's playing a made-up character. Like any radio personality he just does bits he knows are funny

Gervais would call him an idiot on air and you could dismiss it as banter. Then Gervais marketed Karl's first television show as "An Idiot Abroad" and you got the increasing sense that Gervais thought the world was laughing at Karl and genuinely thought his appeal was his "stupidity". People love Karl because he has an original and funny comic mind
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Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 02, 2022, 11:25:07 PM
It's telling that Gervais put so much onus on how uneducated or uncurious Karl is whilst proudly announcing he's never read a book himself, as well as the entire premise of An Idiot Abroad despite the fact that Gervais seems to have seldom left the UK or USA. Pilkington's own spin on the Idiot Abroad concept (The Moaning Of Life) demonstrated just how much he was interested to engage with other cultures and people, at least without Gervais orchestrating ways to make it as unpleasant as humanly possible from an office in London.

If nothing else, Gervais's recent work demonstrates a complete unwillingness to engage with any part of real life, despite claiming that's what is being presented back to us. Karl, on the other hand, always seemed engaged with everything he observed - even if it was ludicrous.
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Post by: BritishHobo on January 03, 2022, 12:58:00 AM
Yeah, the idea that Karl is stupid (and therefore that there is something which could be an act) is entirely due to Gervais' witless hyping up of Pilkington's interesting perspective on the world.
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Post by: DigForVictory on January 03, 2022, 01:12:31 AM
Wasn't the worst part of Idiot Abroad that Gervais and Merchant had set up Karl to have proper shit accommodation throughout? Like sleeping on the floor of a shop with a dozen other people type shit?

So there was almost no escape for Karl, it was just 24/7 being wound up and uncomfortable and miserable just to make Gervais laugh.

I wonder if Karl had a target of money in his head that he wanted to earn before he could fuck Gervais off forever.
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Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 03, 2022, 01:21:41 AM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on January 02, 2022, 11:25:07 PMIt's telling that Gervais put so much onus on how uneducated or uncurious Karl is whilst proudly announcing he's never read a book himself

This is the funny thing about Ricky - he wants to be the best at everything, but sometimes this means being the best at things which are diametrically opposed, so it leads to him claiming to be two contradictory things at once.
He wants to think he's the most learned and informed person in philosophy and history, but he also wants to believe he's so smart naturally he doesn't need to learn or read anything.
He wants to be the most edgy and offensive comedian in the world, but also wants to be the kindest man in the world.
He wants the credit for being so naturally gifted he doesn't have to try at anything, but he also wants to kudos for being a hard worker (this is a real gervais tweet: The only route to success is hard work. If you didn't work hard I don't think it counts as success.) Coming from the guy that has spent countless hours bragging about how he's never tried at anything.
He thinks the working class are fat stupid slobs, but he also venerates them for being the true heroes.
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Post by: JamesTC on January 03, 2022, 02:27:49 AM
My eyes are literally husks of dust from crying all my tears of sadness. Ricky has done it again.
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Post by: Mobius on January 03, 2022, 03:05:10 AM
Can't believe Gervais is 60 really.
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 03, 2022, 10:45:30 AM
Quote from: Mobius on January 03, 2022, 03:05:10 AMCan't believe Gervais is 60 really.

I wouldn't even believe it fictionally.
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on January 03, 2022, 12:30:53 PM
incidentally the number or minutes it took to write series 3.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 03, 2022, 02:29:08 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on January 02, 2022, 11:25:07 PMIt's telling that Gervais put so much onus on how uneducated or uncurious Karl is whilst proudly announcing he's never read a book himself, as well as the entire premise of An Idiot Abroad despite the fact that Gervais seems to have seldom left the UK or USA.

Interesting. I knew he'd claimed to have never read a book (poor Jane Fallon) but I hadn't given the travel thing any thought until now. Has he even toured outside the UK or US? I wouldn't expect him to have been like Eddie Izzard and done tours in 50  countries and 70 languages or something, but surely he's toured a few more English-speaking countries like Canada, Australia and New Zealand?

...hmmmm, apparently not Australia, even despite the demand from a sizable fanbase there:

https://au.news.yahoo.com/youre-not-selling-it-to-me-why-ricky-gervais-wont-come-to-aus-32187553.html

QuoteFans of Ricky Gervais have been lamenting for years that The Office star won't visit Australia.

Well, now we know why.

"It's a long way, innit?" Gervais told Sunday Night.

"I mean, if you knew how lazy I was."

"I thought Branson was sorting out a thing that shoots you into space and you come down two hours later? When's that going to happen? I can afford that now."

But it's not all laziness — he insisted he loves Aussies but Australia was also far too dangerous for him.

"You've got the most dangerous spiders... snakes... jellyfish, sharks, and you walk around in flip-flops!"

It's a common view that was not helped by reporter Alex Cullen's knowledge of funnel web spiders.

"You know with a funnel web, its 'teeth' will go through your toenail," Cullen said in the interview.

"This is my point," Gervais said, "I don't want to hear that that creature exists. I don't want to hear that as a fact."

"Honestly, you're not selling it to me."

You'd think someone who claims to be an animal lover and curious about science, nature, human behaviour etc would be a bit more curious and eager to explore the world, wouldn't you?

As for all that stuff about Australia being full of poisonous things and everyone wearing flip-flops- that's just a lazy generalisation (that the Aussies must be absolutely sick of hearing). The blurb for An Idiot Abroad describes "the close-minded (sic) and simple Karl Pilkington" but I doubt KP would come out with something as clichéd and ignorant as that.
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Post by: idunnosomename on January 03, 2022, 03:22:49 PM
be kind to animnkals you human CUNTS

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Post by: checkoutgirl on January 03, 2022, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 03, 2022, 02:29:08 PM"You've got the most dangerous spiders... snakes... jellyfish, sharks, and you walk around in flip-flops!"

Robbed that one off Karl as well.

QuoteBox jellyfish, crocodiles, snakes , blue-ring octopuses, redback spiders, funnel-web spiders, great white sharks. Just some of the reasons that put me off going to Australia.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 03, 2022, 03:31:43 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 03, 2022, 02:29:08 PMbut I doubt KP would come out with something as clichéd and ignorant as that.

Eh...
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Post by: Blue Jam on January 03, 2022, 03:40:59 PM
I stand corrected:

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Post by: The Bumlord on January 04, 2022, 12:48:17 PM
Yeah but Karl's been to Australia so nerr
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 04, 2022, 07:55:52 PM
Bit of a hate read here if you're so inclined. Looks like this series is going to be another barnstormer with the fans. Admittedly I haven't read all the article yet - it might end with "of course, I believe the opposite of everything I've just written" - but it honestly beggars belief how people can buy into this boring, pedestrian rubbish.

https://awardswatch.com/after-life-season-3-review-the-right-balance-of-cringe-and-compassion-makes-for-a-sweet-and-satisfying-finale-grade-a/

I had forgotten that the nurse turns up at the end of S2 and basically says "I will change the way I live and what I want for you, kind Tony. You are the kindest and best of men". Nuts.

I hope the dog in the photo started to mount him shortly after. Not in a funny anecdote way, but in a sad and savage way where the handler looks on and says "he's in now. We'll just have to let him finish"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mjwilson on January 04, 2022, 08:45:51 PM
As someone who hasn't watched the show, I can't help but be amazed by this sentence from the review:
QuoteFor those hoping for a return of Tom Bennett as "The Nonce," you will be happy to know that Gervais does find a fitting way to revive this fan favorite from season two...
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: gotmilk on January 04, 2022, 09:16:34 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 04, 2022, 07:55:52 PMBut of a hate read here if you're so inclined. Looks like this series is going to be another barnstormer with the fans. Admittedly I haven't read all the article yet - it might end with "of course, I believe the opposite of everything I've just written" - but it honestly beggars belief how people can buy into this boring, pedestrian rubbish.

https://awardswatch.com/after-life-season-3-review-the-right-balance-of-cringe-and-compassion-makes-for-a-sweet-and-satisfying-finale-grade-a/

The review has the Gervais seal of approval on Twitter: "This is one of the best interpretations of #AfterLife I've ever read. Cheers."

Interpretation? The show is hardly Twin Peaks. The review basically regurgitates exactly what every After Life fan says, and in the same clumsy writing style. I try not to be condescending about other people's tastes, but is it a coincidence that every person who likes the show sounds a bit thick?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 04, 2022, 09:17:50 PM
Quote from: mjwilson on January 04, 2022, 08:45:51 PMAs someone who hasn't watched the show, I can't help but be amazed by this sentence from the review:

"For those hoping for a return of Tom Bennett as "The Nonce," you will be happy to know that Gervais does find a fitting way to revive this fan favorite from season two..."

Lol! "Keep watching ;-)"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 04, 2022, 11:56:54 PM
Quote from: gotmilk on January 04, 2022, 09:16:34 PMInterpretation? The show is hardly Twin Peaks.

Kerry Godliman's floating head in the river was one of the most Lynchian things I've ever seen, to be fair.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on January 11, 2022, 03:53:29 PM
Not sure if this says more about me than him but Ricky Gervais liked my tweets

QuoteI was inspired by #Afterlife to call out some fat ginger kids at the local primary school. Should have seen their faces🤣🤣
The headmaster was raging but I called him a stupid c**t and he had NO ANSWER to that one😂😂😂

QuoteCan't wait for #AfterLife3 My dad's in a nursing home and I've been terrorising the staff with some #afterlife and #derek inspired stuff- CUM BUCKET, COCK OF A CHINAMAN etc He's cracking up and the nurses (angels) know its all in good fun!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 11, 2022, 06:39:46 PM
Incredible.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 11, 2022, 06:41:47 PM
Saw a fuckload of adverts for this in London, including a massive one at Waterloo station. No expense spared.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Armin Meiwes on January 11, 2022, 07:09:23 PM
Haha that second one.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheMonk on January 12, 2022, 09:21:55 AM
(https://pocketmagscovers.imgix.net/radio-times-magazine-2-15-21st-janaury-2022-cover.jpg?w=362&auto=format)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 12, 2022, 09:27:38 AM
(https://www.techradar247.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/after-life-season-2-1586439648-1024x512.jpg)

Woman drinks self to death after Gervais won't stop visiting the bench she apparently lives on
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on January 12, 2022, 09:45:13 AM
Quote from: Dickie_Anders on January 02, 2022, 10:54:45 PMGervais would call him an idiot on air and you could dismiss it as banter. Then Gervais marketed Karl's first television show as "An Idiot Abroad" and you got the increasing sense that Gervais thought the world was laughing at Karl and genuinely thought his appeal was his "stupidity". People love Karl because he has an original and funny comic mind
I think I've said this on CaB before: I don't believe Karl is actually stupid enough to think a couple of chimps are capable of founding and managing a health spa, but I do think it's possible Gervais is actually stupid enough to believe Karl is actually stupid enough to think a couple of chimps are capable of founding and managing a health spa
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 12, 2022, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: frajer on January 12, 2022, 09:27:38 AM(https://www.techradar247.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/after-life-season-2-1586439648-1024x512.jpg)

Woman drinks self to death after Gervais won't stop visiting the bench she apparently lives on

Haha, she does live on that bench.

'Sometimes I wish I hadn't said to my dead wife who has been dead for fucking years by this point that there was no such things as angels'

'There are angels. Like really nice kind people eg nurses.

'Yeah, they're not actually angels are they?'
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 12, 2022, 11:11:41 AM
Looking forward to absolutely sort of cry my eyes out at this
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 12, 2022, 11:33:02 AM
FWIW, I always thought Karl's early life stories were true (brother in a tank to get fags, doctor called for old cream cake consumption etc.). Never thought the others genuinely believed he was dunce level stupid. Which is why I always took their comments about people saying he was a scripted character as some sort of double meaning, being it's not scripted, but it is a character.

As others have said, there is no way he could get to the level he was at within XFM if he was as daft as made out. Also, not sure if it's been mentioned upthread, but Adam Buxton spoke a little about this (and I think Richard Bacon?), sort of saying how lovely Karl was and how switched on to radio he was. I think Buxton went over some show plans for their XFM first shows and Karl was like, 'that wont work, don't try so hard' and suggested he was much more dynamic than his Saturday slot persona.

I also agree with others that Sick of it was excellent. So much more imaginative than RG's post Office output. Also a big fan of the Idiots and especially Moaning of Life.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chveik on January 12, 2022, 03:57:54 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on January 12, 2022, 11:11:41 AMLooking forward to absolutely sort of cry my eyes out at this

you're going to laugh, cry, cum and shit yourself at the same time
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 12, 2022, 04:22:09 PM
Quote from: chveik on January 12, 2022, 03:57:54 PMyou're going to laugh, cry, cum and shit yourself at the same time

Anyone who doesn't is simply not kind. That's just science, and Richard Dawkins agrees so nyeerrrrrrr.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 12, 2022, 07:00:00 PM
Quote from: The Ombudsman on January 12, 2022, 11:33:02 AMFWIW, I always thought Karl's early life stories were true (brother in a tank to get fags, doctor called for old cream cake consumption etc.)

Oh Christ, that's just reminded me of the story about his dad and the "Forrest Gump people". I think that one would be less funny if it was true, but I always assumed it was exaggerated: https://youtu.be/FknAbmdY5-8
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: sevendaughters on January 12, 2022, 07:02:02 PM
Quote from: TheMonk on January 12, 2022, 09:21:55 AM(https://pocketmagscovers.imgix.net/radio-times-magazine-2-15-21st-janaury-2022-cover.jpg?w=362&auto=format)

something even Up The Arse Corner might turn down
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Twonty Gostelow on January 12, 2022, 07:56:02 PM
Quote from: TheMonk on January 12, 2022, 09:21:55 AM(https://pocketmagscovers.imgix.net/radio-times-magazine-2-15-21st-janaury-2022-cover.jpg?w=362&auto=format)

There was even a subliminal reference to his disingenuous tweets on the front of the previous week's issue.

(https://i.imgur.com/q8EJsxQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 13, 2022, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on January 12, 2022, 07:00:00 PMOh Christ, that's just reminded me of the story about his dad and the "Forrest Gump people". I think that one would be less funny if it was true, but I always assumed it was exaggerated: https://youtu.be/FknAbmdY5-8

They are the sort of stories that considering the era they would have occurred, could be totally legit.

Not sure if you have seen this before. Sadly I think he has died.



Edit to say sorry for derailing the thread.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 13, 2022, 03:07:55 PM
Quote from: chveik on January 12, 2022, 03:57:54 PMyou're going to laugh, cry, cum and shit yourself at the same time
this looks like it will be master gervais reaching new heights, so i expect to also simultaneously vomit, sweat buckets and prolapse my anus
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bigfella on January 13, 2022, 04:15:12 PM
You're getting your moneys'worth.  That's a hell of a lot to do in one night!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Custard on January 13, 2022, 04:25:57 PM
Out of morbid curiosity, I started watching series one last night.

In the first episode he fat-shames 3 different people. One a schoolkid of about 11 years old
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on January 13, 2022, 04:27:08 PM
But you've got no right NOT to be offended, so you have to be fine with being called a fat cunt
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 13, 2022, 04:31:31 PM
Quote from: Custard on January 13, 2022, 04:25:57 PMOut of morbid curiosity, I started watching series one last night.

In the first episode he fat-shames 3 different people. One a schoolkid of about 11 years old

What is your problem with kindness
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 13, 2022, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: Bigfella on January 13, 2022, 04:15:12 PMYou're getting your moneys'worth.  That's a hell of a lot to do in one night!
~•°•《 the magic of kindness 》 •°•~
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Custard on January 13, 2022, 05:09:28 PM
Joking aside, I think I laughed once. And even then I can't remember what it was. I think it was the lazy postman being called Pat.

But bloody ell, it's so dour. I know, his lovely wife has gone died, but it's so downbeat it's almost unwatchable. Like you shouldn't be entertained by watching this man's abject misery. And I wasn't. But I don't think that was the aim.

The fat shaming stuff is really ridiculous though, and it's constant. CaB favourite Tony Way being constantly called fat, greedy, Shrek, etc. When he's clearly thinner than Gervais anyway!

It's not funny, or inventive, it's just mean-spirited and outright bullying. Hopefully Way will tell him to fuck right off, like Brent did to Finchy that time...
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 13, 2022, 05:15:57 PM
I do think there's some self-loathing for Gervais' own body. He has a very weird thing about fat people that goes way beyond the dated-giggling-Uncle-Phil jokes from Fresh Prince, which are grating today but are more juvenile than mean spirited.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 13, 2022, 05:31:34 PM
Yeah the relentless fat jokes, especially against Tony Way's character, are both really lazy and unnecessarily venomous. And the fact that Gervais is clearly far from svelte but no-one ever mentions this makes does make his obsession very odd.

If an overweight supposed mate was relentlessly calling you fat, at some point you'd at least throw back a "have you looked in the mirror lately?" But then this is After Life, where Gervais is the equivalent of the monster boy in The Twilight Zone who all the adults have to unquestioningly obey or he'll twist reality to kill them.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 13, 2022, 06:11:25 PM
There was definitely at least one moment in every single episode that series, as well. He kept coming up with more and more fat characters to draw Tony's ire, every episode. Truly odd in its obsessiveness.

I didn't bother with series 2, but I could believe it has a similar rate of 'disgusting fat person' moments.

I may watch episode 1 of series 3, guess how it's going to end, then watch the last episode to see if I'm right. Can't be bothered with all the shit in the middle.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 13, 2022, 06:17:36 PM
Final episode preddo:

Dog dies, he is distraught and going to do something drastic until he finally gets together with Ashley jensens character, final shot of the series is a drone shot pulling away from both of them holding hands on The Bench By Old Wife's Grave, sad happy piano music plays. Think the ending of Nathan For You's "Finding Frances" episode, but played entirely straight.

Credit sequence is a photo of their wedding with all the audience favourites (Gittins, Keith from the office, etc) in the wedding party.

I have never watched a single episode but feel very confident about my prediction.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 13, 2022, 06:20:56 PM
My preddo: Bench Widow dies with no next of kin to arrange the funeral. Because he is so kind Tony arranges it and pays for it all. Ashley Jensen is so impressed with his kindness that she kisses him. Clever cut to Tony kissing his bride at their wedding in the exact same church. The end.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 13, 2022, 06:23:54 PM
Dog dies, Ricky goes insane with grief, fucks its corpse everyday, till it bursts from being full of cum. Audience cries and laughs at the same time. Incredible
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 13, 2022, 07:27:47 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 13, 2022, 06:20:56 PMMy preddo: Bench Widow dies with no next of kin to arrange the funeral. Because he is so kind Tony arranges it and pays for it all. Ashley Jensen is so impressed with his kindness that she kisses him. Clever cut to Tony kissing his bride at their wedding in the exact same church. The end.

Definitely 100% got to be a shot of Bench Widow's grave next to her husband's - or her name engraved on the same stone. Finally reunited. Twitter weeps.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 13, 2022, 07:30:32 PM
Bench Widow coughs in episode 2.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 13, 2022, 07:46:49 PM
Can we all agree that Penelope Wilton (as well as a lot of the other supporting cast) is too good for this shit? I sincerely hope she's being well paid for this.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 13, 2022, 08:16:09 PM
Two of my best friends like this.
They are not stupid people.
Think I might need new best friends.

Never watched it myself. The Office was alright, when Gervais wasn't on screen, but Extras was fucking dogshit and I haven't bothered with anything the cunt has done since.

"Ooh you should give it a go, you might like it" but I don't want to and shut up now please.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 13, 2022, 08:23:12 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on January 13, 2022, 08:16:09 PMThe Office was alright, when Gervais wasn't on screen

So you liked about 27 isolated minutes of The Office in total? Gervais was brilliant in The Office, and it would've been nice if he'd just left it at that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 13, 2022, 08:45:26 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 13, 2022, 08:23:12 PMSo you liked about 27 isolated minutes of The Office in total? Gervais was brilliant in The Office, and it would've been nice if he'd just left it at that.

Ok it was something of an exaggeration.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: drummersaredeaf on January 13, 2022, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on January 13, 2022, 08:16:09 PMTwo of my best friends like this.
They are not stupid people.
Think I might need new best friends.

Never watched it myself. The Office was alright, when Gervais wasn't on screen, but Extras was fucking dogshit and I haven't bothered with anything the cunt has done since.

"Ooh you should give it a go, you might like it" but I don't want to and shut up now please.

If you kill your friends you might meet someone #kind on a bench by their graves.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 13, 2022, 09:24:53 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on January 13, 2022, 08:45:26 PMOk it was something of an exaggeration.

Fair enough. I am a pedantic twat.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 13, 2022, 09:31:47 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 13, 2022, 09:24:53 PMFair enough. I am a pedantic twat.

I am an pedantic twat.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 13, 2022, 09:53:01 PM
Would be great if this ends with Ricky Gervais breaking character in order to burst a puppy with his cock and then Kerry Godliman walks on and says "I wasn't dead actually" and then some child gets called a fat cunt after no provocation.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 13, 2022, 10:05:49 PM
Sort of like this...

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 13, 2022, 10:49:46 PM
Not sure I can stomach a third go-round. A show starring Rickyyyy Gerrrrrrrrrvais, a co-star who literally doesn't have any fucking idea what's going on, a superior actor who has been killed off and turned into a series of terrifying floating heads or fart-on-face You've Been Framed clips to avoid any risk of upstaging Gervais, again, and sixteen assorted plastic wind-up ginger kid, fat bird and nonce toys   
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 13, 2022, 11:11:18 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 13, 2022, 06:20:56 PMMy preddo: Bench Widow dies with no next of kin to arrange the funeral. Because he is so kind Tony arranges it and pays for it all. Ashley Jensen is so impressed with his kindness that she kisses him. Clever cut to Tony kissing his bride at their wedding in the exact same church. The end.

I'd like to incorporate that into my own preddo, plus a weak gag about Dead Wife & the (now Graved) Bench Widow "getting to meet" or "wonder how they're getting along" or something.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neardark on January 13, 2022, 11:17:41 PM
His wife is still alive and locked in his basement. He kills the dog and feeds it to her.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 09:47:57 AM
I've watched episode 1. I don't really understand why Tony is still such a miserable cunt.
Spoiler alert
His brother-in-law asks him round for dinner, and he's such a miserable prick about it. Then he goes and he's awkward and spiky about everything, and then rudely fucks off and abandons Ashley Jensen there. That's got nothing to do with his dead wife or his shit moral crusade. It's just him being awful.
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I don't get why
Spoiler alert
Ashley Jensen is bothering with him. There's nothing likable or interesting about him, he's a mopey bastard, he treats her like an annoyance that he doesn't want around. Instead he keeps on watching videos of Cancer Wife. It's a bit like the later Paranormal Activity films, where they seem to have kept filming everything for no clear reason.
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Anyway, it was just dull. There was no real point to it. Trot out the same old characters to do their bits, while Tony trudges on. The only vaguely engaging bit was Brian Gittins and his mate talking about Brian doing stand-up, and that's only because it reminds me of his real-life stand-up, which I love.

There's no real substance there to make a decent prediction of how it'll end. There's some vague hints that he might think about spirituality a bit, that'll be a laugh. I guess
Spoiler alert
he moves on from Cancer Wife, lets the Angel Nurse into his heart, and learns for the ten millionth time that it's nice to be nice to people. Cue dull montage of Joe Wilkinson and Diane Morgan and whoever else looking happy. Like I said back with series 1, it's not mad enough like Derek to anything properly demented at the end, like Brian fucking Bench Widow while Tony sits next to them cradling the body of his dead dog.
[close]

Sticking the finale on now. The last ever episode of beloved show "After Life". What a journey we've been on.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 09:58:04 AM
Cancer Wife's Brother: Tony, it's okay to admit you're nice. You've always cared.

Bench Widow: Tony, you're my angel.

Oh FUCK OFF
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 14, 2022, 10:02:13 AM
I cry tears out of all orifices.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:04:30 AM
Oh he's doing a fucking speech about how actually being kind is good. It's the real superpower.

WE KNOW, TONY, WE ALL WENT TO NURSERY
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 14, 2022, 10:07:44 AM
The Taliban have all seen After Life and have decided to knock it on the head. Bravo!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 14, 2022, 10:17:33 AM
He's posted the first 3 minutes of episode 1, in case anyone was wondering how far in you have to go to get a montage set to one of Ricky's favourite songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4ePVOGIFqQ (the answer is one minute).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:18:09 AM
Episode 6:
Spoiler alert
Why is Tony explaining to the woman at the Dog's Trust how good dogs are?
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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 14, 2022, 10:26:13 AM
I cried one big tear out of my arse. Laid it like a big salty egg. Ricky, you've done it again
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:30:04 AM
Absolute shit that was. Waste of time.

Spoiler alert
It's exactly the kind of thing I would have written at 15. A big ending where everyone in the self-insert character's life is happy because of his influence, and then he walks away and leaves them to it, all noble in his solitude and sadness, yeah?

Vague ambiguous implication of the dog dying further down the line, and then Tony after that, but all done in a crap little moment at the end. SHIT.
[close]
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 14, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
All of the tears have left my body so now all I have left is blood and cum which are flowing down my face. I can't believe Gervais has managed it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bad Ambassador on January 14, 2022, 10:39:32 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:30:04 AMAbsolute shit that was. Waste of time.

Spoiler alert
It's exactly the kind of thing I would have written at 15. A big ending where everyone in the self-insert character's life is happy because of his influence, and then he walks away and leaves them to it, all noble in his solitude and sadness, yeah?

Vague ambiguous implication of the dog dying further down the line, and then Tony after that, but all done in a crap little moment at the end. SHIT.
[close]

Spoiler alert
Sounds like the end of every episode of The Incredible Hulk. Does a sad piano play?
[close]
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 14, 2022, 10:40:34 AM
I resent Gervais using Sufjan Stevens' The Only Thing to close out season two. The Only Thing handles suicide and self harm sensitively and from a personal level and doesn't deserve to have Gervais infecting it with his banality.

Sorry for getting on my high horse everyone.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:43:18 AM
Brian Gittins
Spoiler alert
gets fake-bummed by a Finchy-type while in some stocks at a fair. Brent's mate from the Brent film is rubbing his arse in Brian's face. Then Brian's ex-wife and her new boyfriend Gypsy something come along and beat them up. In a moment shot like a genuine emotional climax for the character, Brian says this is the lowest his life has ever been, even lower than when he sucked off a man(!!!) in a carpark. Then he goes for a coffee for a woman so it's alright.
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Which, thinking about it, is pretty much the exact same as how the Brent movie ends. Although in that instance  Brent is the one engaging in horrible blokey behaviour with his mate, and the Finchy type is the one who (rightfully) tells him to pack it in.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Custard on January 14, 2022, 11:14:08 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:04:30 AMOh he's doing a fucking speech about how actually being kind is good. It's the real superpower.

WE KNOW, TONY, WE ALL WENT TO NURSERY

But this is what I don't understand. It's only his character going around being a rude cunt to everyone!

I don't understand things anymore
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: toetoe on January 14, 2022, 11:19:57 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:04:30 AMOh he's doing a fucking speech about how actually being kind is good. It's the real superpower.

WE KNOW, TONY, WE ALL WENT TO NURSERY HATE WATCHED DEREK
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 14, 2022, 11:30:50 AM
I can't remember who (someone on a podcast, or someone here maybe?) described Gervais as having the mentality of a Sixth Form student who's just opened his first philosophy book and truly thinks he's blowing people's minds, but it's spot fucking on.

The squint and furrowed brow and little dramatic pauses he inserts when he Ricksplains the most basic of human concepts is so ludicrous.

"That's the thing though... Kindness... it's all we have. All we have is each other... in the end. So why not be kind? And it doesn't take money. Even a dog knows to be kind (ruffles dog's head). So if anyone... can be kind... then everyone... should be kind."

Fucking rotten to the core.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: drummersaredeaf on January 14, 2022, 11:41:05 AM
My mate rescued a Staffy cross (kind) but it's off its fucking head and tries to kill all other similar sized mammals and lurches at children (not kind).

Checkmate, Gervais.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on January 14, 2022, 11:46:29 AM
Has there ever been some sort of reference or easter egg in After Life that implies it's set in the same fictional universe as Derek? Beyond having exactly the same clunking philosophy, I mean
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 11:51:08 AM
Quote from: frajer on January 14, 2022, 11:30:50 AM"That's the thing though... Kindness... it's all we have. All we have is each other... in the end. So why not be kind? And it doesn't take money. Even a dog knows to be kind (ruffles dog's head). So if anyone... can be kind... then everyone... should be kind."

Could be made up to make point about how bad the writing is, could be the gervais-penned closing monologue.

The duality of Rick.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Tony Yeboah on January 14, 2022, 11:55:31 AM
There's an article in the Telegraph that includes this: 'Gervais came to stand up proper after he was famous; the first joke of his first full length show was a snide dig at a less successful comedian called Jeff Green.' Does anyone remember the joke?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 12:36:21 PM
Gervais' first joke? Reminds me of a classic Rick moment...

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 14, 2022, 01:32:53 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 10:43:18 AMBrian Gittins
Spoiler alert
gets fake-bummed by a Finchy-type while in some stocks at a fair. Brent's mate from the Brent film is rubbing his arse in Brian's face. Then Brian's ex-wife and her new boyfriend Gypsy something come along and beat them up. In a moment shot like a genuine emotional climax for the character, Brian says this is the lowest his life has ever been, even lower than when he sucked off a man(!!!) in a carpark. Then he goes for a coffee for a woman so it's alright.
[close]

While your description makes it sound Derke-level mental, I bet Gervais somehow managed to make all that quite blisteringly dull to watch.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 14, 2022, 01:37:02 PM
Just looked at the episode descriptions on Netflix. One of them features a character visiting a psychic. Don't tell me, does Tony DESTROY the psychic with REASON and LOGIC?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 14, 2022, 01:40:20 PM
The Ricky Gervais subreddit really is a breath of fresh air:

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 14, 2022, 01:50:10 PM
Whilst I believe those comments are referencing the old XFM Ricky Gervais Show, the sentiment is probably also genuine. They are even more savage than on here.

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 01:55:40 PM
That's lovely to see. Sometimes it feels like outside of here everyone sees Derek and After Life as beautiful works of humanity-redefining art.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: sevendaughters on January 14, 2022, 01:56:41 PM
Quote from: Chris Merrion for the TorygraphThe third and final series of Ricky Gervais's wildly popular grief-com After Life (Netflix) begins superbly. As ever, the episode starts with an old home video of Lisa (Kerry Godliman), who died of breast cancer before the first series began. In it, she is struggling to steer a rowing boat as husband Tony (Gervais) films her, the pair chuckling and joshing and essentially having a very lovely and loving time. The laptop snaps shut, but, for once, it is not a morose Tony watching the video, wondering how he can live without Lisa – it's Emma (Ashley Jensen), Tony's love interest, wondering how she can ever compare to Lisa. It is a gentle, subtle twist.

It is, by far, the high point in another trite, mawkish, soggy pudding of a series, that wallows in its own cynical slurry pit of emotion and thin-skinned misanthropy, Tony inhabiting a world in which, in his words, almost everyone is a "c--t", except for him and his dog. It is a show that doesn't just want to have its cake and it eat – Tony sneers at everyone, but he, and only he, can still see the essential good in them – it wants to have its cake, eat it, spit it out, rub it in your face and then tearfully demand you admire the baking.

The plot hasn't really moved on (though three cast regulars – Roisin Conaty, Mandeep Dhillon and Paul Kaye – have, understandably), with Tony's tentative relationship with angel-hearted care home nurse Emma struggling to go anywhere. Tony still works at the Tambury Gazette, interviewing local oddballs with open-mouthed incredulity.

He still shovels red wine into his mouth while sitting on his sofa with his dog in a brave haze of self-pity. He still spends his days insulting his colleagues – Tony Way's gentle photographer, Lenny, Tom Basden's weedy boss, Matt, Diane Morgan's brassy ad lady, Kath. He still ends every episode sat on a graveyard bench with Penelope Wilton's magical widow, as she tells him how wonderful and kind and special he is.

Old people in Tambury all tend to be twinkly and charming or refreshingly foul-mouthed. Old people are magic, as Derek, Gervais's previously worse creation, may have said.

The only innovation is Coleen (Kath Hughes), a sadsack new intern at the Gazette, whose existence in the show I struggled to discern after watching all six episodes. The will-they-won't-they storyline between Tony and Emma flutters along, but it has done since the first series, and Tony treats her so objectionably that you long for her to meet someone else. Emma, of course, despite no evidence, thinks Tony is the greatest guy she has ever met. Most people think this in After Life.

Back in the first series – which, thanks to its decent premise and the excellent cast, was perfectly watchable – Tony, considering suicide, decided he had a "super power". This was his ability not to care about anything or anyone (though he still kept turning up to work), which meant he could always tell people what he thought about them. And if it all got too much, he could kill himself.

Gradually, our hero has realised that perhaps, maybe, it's better to be nice to people, as well as calling them an ugly, fat slob. In series three we see Tony the suicidal misanthrope and Tony the saviour, like a one-man, village hall production of It's a Wonderful Life.

This is not to say that After Life does not work on some levels. It's designed as a feelgood tearjerker, and as it reaches its denouement the emotional beats are punched harder and harder (we get children with cancer in the finale) and the indie-song soundtrack gets sadder and sadder.

The emotions here – grief, sorrow, jealousy, anger, love – are not insincere, but they have the depth of a Post-It note. Watching a whole series of After Life in quick succession is a bit like hearing a six-year-old describe a four-year-old's drawing of a funeral. There is a simplistic strain of philosophy that runs through the whole thing, too, with Tony, as if he was Bhudda, telling people to "just be yourself" and "it's what's on the inside that counts".

And Gervais, as we well know, is funny and can write a gag. Sadly, the few genuine chuckles are drowned
in a deluge of anvil-drop jokes about w---ing, fat people, poor genital hygiene, people who like Toploader, defecation, hipsters and w---ing.

There is also a very odd subplot in which Tony/Ricky shows off about how good at sport he is, which feels a little like someone proving they can throw a kettle over a pub.

Hardcore fans of the show – which are legion – will mourn its passing, but for the rest of us, Gervais's maudlin curio remains a kind of purgatory.

One star
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 02:01:46 PM
Considering it's Reddit we're talking about here, some of those comments were unexpectedly funny and insightful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rickygervais/comments/s2xafs/after_life_season_3_discussion/

They seem to have his number

QuoteHere's how it will go:
Crying over footage of dead wife
Cunt cunt cunt
Tony you're such a good guy
Jesus look how that fat person eats
Cunt cunt cunt
Oh wait I've just realized now life is actually all about love and kindness really innit
Acoustic Cat Stevens song

And this one made me chuckle:

QuoteStart of episode 3. Why is no one at this evening drink and stare at the dog session asking why Tony is filming their entire evening on his phone like some weird pervert?

A comments page that's worth a skim; a rare thing indeed.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 02:10:36 PM
That review posted by @sevendaughters a few posts up is definitely worth a read if anyone skipped it. A highlight:

QuoteThe emotions here – grief, sorrow, jealousy, anger, love – are not insincere, but they have the depth of a Post-It note. Watching a whole series of After Life in quick succession is a bit like hearing a six-year-old describe a four-year-old's drawing of a funeral.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 14, 2022, 02:17:33 PM
I don't think you're allowed to go to an old people's home and pretend to be the son of one of the people with alzheimers.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 14, 2022, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Dr Rock on January 14, 2022, 02:17:33 PMI don't think you're allowed to go to an old people's home and pretend to be the son of one of the people with alzheimers.

Nor throw a brick(? -have only seen trailer) through the rear window of a moving car.

But we are mere mortals. It's Tony's world and we're just living in it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 14, 2022, 02:36:53 PM
I really enjoy the r/rickygervais subreddit, mainly because they are clearly former fans, so use old xfm/office quotes to shitpost about his new stuff.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 02:41:47 PM
Quote from: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 02:01:46 PMConsidering it's Reddit we're talking about here, some of those comments were unexpectedly funny and insightful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/rickygervais/comments/s2xafs/after_life_season_3_discussion/

They seem to have his number

And this one made me chuckle:

A comments page that's worth a skim; a rare thing indeed.

That second comment occurred to me, too. Gervais obviously realised it was unconvincing for each series to reveal ever more footage that Cancer Wife filmed in hospital, but the increasing number of videos of their good times together look very odd. For a man having such beautiful, present experiences with his wife, he sure seemed to experience a lot of them behind a camera.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 02:45:40 PM
Quote from: frajer on January 14, 2022, 02:36:00 PMNor throw a brick(? -have only seen trailer) through the rear window of a moving car.

But we are mere mortals. It's Tony's world and we're just living in it.

The brick-at-new-range-rover bit is mad isn't it?

I imagine the car's owner would get out and have something to say to our hero Tony (a short, overweight man in his 60s who would probably be better off avoiding physical altercations). He'd get battered.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 02:41:47 PMThat second comment occurred to me, too. Gervais obviously realised it was unconvincing for each series to reveal ever more footage that Cancer Wife filmed in hospital, but the increasing number of videos of their good times together look very odd. For a man having such beautiful, present experiences with his wife, he sure seemed to experience a lot of them behind a camera.

It's the old trope of a tearful detective, alone in the dark, illuminated by his telly with a bottle of bourbon watching footage of his family every night while vowing revenge on Mendozaaa!

But it's played completely straight in AL and without the ludicrous action sequences to make the whole thing worth watching.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 03:02:03 PM
And the review above is definitely great, thanks for posting @sevendaughters. I disagree with their opening point (Angel Nurse watching the footage of Cancer Wife didn't move me to think about how she struggles to live in her shadow - it moved me to think "what on earth do you think you're doing sneaking on your boyfriend's laptop to watch videos of his dead wife, you nosy prick?") but everything else is spot-on.

It really nails that After Life is a show that really is driven by hate. It's absolutely full of contempt for people in general. Despite purporting to be about hope, Gervais has created a world that's full of horrible, nasty arseholes. It seems a miserable place to live. Everyone Tony meets is monstrous in their rudeness. It really hit me in the finale, when Diane Morgan is at some weird yoga session where everybody has to laugh. She isn't laughing, so the yoga teacher stops everyone, puts her on the spot, and demands she laughs. She starts crying, and admits that she's lonely. You expect a moment of catharsis here, but the yoga teacher tells her she needs to leave because she's bringing the mood down. It doesn't feel like it's based in any observation about what yoga or wellness teachers are like, it just feels like Gervais writing all these people as awful because that's all he can see.

Even the main cast, outside of the True Angels like Bench Widow and Ashley Jensen, are generally treated as thick, boring, gross, unlikeable gormless idiots, until they get the inevitable sprinkling of forced pity at the end of a series.

It just shows his absolute weakness in writing people, writing characters. No nuance or depth whatsoever. People in the After Life world are either pure-hearted cancer children, or panto villains who do selfish things and then laugh, or scowl if anyone calls them out. Again it reminds me of me at 15, having an obnoxious encounter with a careless driver at a junction, or a rude audience member in a cinema, and fantasising about standing up to them. In those fantasies the target remains stubborn and nasty, because you're angry, and immature, and it ruins it to consider that some of them might be reasonable people who acted carelessly, and might actually apologise if you were brave enough to say something. They wronged you, therefore they must be BAD, EVIL CUNTS. Throw a brick through their car window, the cunts. Throw Alzheimer Dad ashes on them, the cunts. Juvenile revenge fantasy bullshit.

It really does feel like his worldview never left the playground.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 03:06:36 PM
The alternative with his characters is you have someone like Brian, or Kev in Derek, or Brent in the Brent film, where they are weird, objectionable people who make everyone else uncomfortable because they just keep blurting out inappropriate things all the time. And then right at the end Gervais goes 'oh but everyone loves them anyway so it's all okay', but never shows why. Some character says "you're such a great person" even though everything they've ever said or done in fact reveals the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: H-O-W-L on January 14, 2022, 03:35:53 PM
Quote from: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 14, 2022, 02:36:53 PMI really enjoy the r/rickygervais subreddit, mainly because they are clearly former fans, so use old xfm/office quotes to shitpost about his new stuff.

It's also absolutely, cuttingly perfect, because XFM-era Gervais, while still a nasty cunt, constantly ripped the piss out of maudlin shitheads like wot he's become.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on January 14, 2022, 05:40:40 PM
Great observations @BritishHobo
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Peabo Bryson Is Not Dead on January 14, 2022, 05:47:16 PM
Imagine Netflix receiving that and being happy with it.

The only thing of joy I can take from the whole shebang is the Season 2 outtakes of Andrew Brooke, Tom Bennett and Paul Kaye ("Jamie Redknapp"). Season 3 is a waste of some cloud server space in Norway.

The only person still calling Ricky Gervais a comedy genius is Ricky Gervais. It didn't need to be that way, he had the whole world on his side. I hope all the other actors in After Life have used this vehicle to get better roles in the future. He doesn't write characters, he cobbles together obvious targets and slips in the C word, to appear to be edgy. If it backfires on him, he says it ironic. It's lazy.

He's just lazy. Merchant has gone off, written different things, stretched his acting skills. Gervais is happy playing, or just being, a tubby little loser. Don't start me on his awful directing. He's not been told 'No' in 20 years, and it shows. What a waste of a wit.

Cunt.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 14, 2022, 07:49:49 PM
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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 14, 2022, 11:20:44 PM
There's an ancient bit of the old XFM show that I think perfectly encapsulates Ricky's writing style. You are probably familiar with it if you are a fan of the old radio shows and it's this one.


I know it's just them pissing about on a tin pot radio station but I think it gives away bits of his writing style. Gervais has thought briefly about the characters like Jezoc and aspects of their personality, but then doesn't know how to really develop them. Merchant is excited by the idea of this ridiculous cop show that Rick came up with as a kid and starts to flesh out the characters and develop them right there and then and come up with situations and plot lines that you can tell Gervais hadn't even really considered until that point.

I think it's telling that he carried on with that kind of hackiness in shows like Derek where the character development only really went as far as 'Derek is different, I don't need to diagnose him, he's just a funny little fella. He is kind though. I don't need to write any examples of his kindness. He works in a nursing home though. That's a thing that is kind.'
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 14, 2022, 11:25:37 PM
I also didn't like season 2 of Afterlife
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lauraxsynthesis on January 14, 2022, 11:37:31 PM
While I agree with the above critiques about the nastiness, laziness etc I also like the programme. Series 1 came out soon after my husband died and though I kinda disliked Gervais and thought some of his work was abysmal I had a look and both series 1 and series 2 were really helpful to watch from this widow's point of view. I'm looking forward to series 3.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on January 14, 2022, 11:42:17 PM
QuoteThere is also a very odd subplot in which Tony/Ricky shows off about how good at sport he is, which feels a little like someone proving they can throw a kettle over a pub.
Ha. Excellent.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 14, 2022, 11:43:38 PM
I laughed once at the first episode of season three. Diane Morgan's line delivery is very sharp, which is also true in Motherland.

Some of the supporting cast are solid. As has been said upthread, I hope the cast get a bump from this.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 14, 2022, 11:49:06 PM
Ricky Grover's looking well! That's the only positive thing I've got to say.

Quote1st scene of ep 1

Tony - "There'll be no laughter"


You're fucking telling me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ron Maels Moustache on January 15, 2022, 12:00:10 AM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 14, 2022, 03:02:03 PMIt really nails that After Life is a show that really is driven by hate. It's absolutely full of contempt for people in general. Despite purporting to be about hope, Gervais has created a world that's full of horrible, nasty arseholes. It seems a miserable place to live. Everyone Tony meets is monstrous in their rudeness. It really hit me in the finale, when Diane Morgan is at some weird yoga session where everybody has to laugh. She isn't laughing, so the yoga teacher stops everyone, puts her on the spot, and demands she laughs. She starts crying, and admits that she's lonely. You expect a moment of catharsis here, but the yoga teacher tells her she needs to leave because she's bringing the mood down. It doesn't feel like it's based in any observation about what yoga or wellness teachers are like, it just feels like Gervais writing all these people as awful because that's all he can see.


I had a similar thought while watching "The Invention Of Lying" all those many years ago - in that film, everyone who speaks their inner thoughts just says the most hateful, mean-spirited, insulting things to each - he's basically just projecting his own personality onto all the other characters as he can't write in anything except his own voice. And that's still true after all this time, he has not developed one iota.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 12:13:12 AM
Watching season 3 made me think how much I'd rather be watching The Outlaws.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 12:16:13 AM
Quote from: lauraxsynthesis on January 14, 2022, 11:37:31 PMI'm looking forward to series 3.

Ricky?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 01:40:29 AM
Episode 5, fucking hell. Kindness is......annoying your brother in law so much he has a heart attack, then berating him in hospital for being a big weak, puny, woman. I'm literally weeping! Thank you Ricky!

Edit - was going to add spoilers, but fuck it, who cares.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 02:14:17 AM
No, no you can't just put a cancer kid in a scene out of absolutely nowhere to teach us all about kindness. No.

Can't believe I stayed up to watch that, absolute insultingly shit from start to finish.

One small laugh for Tim Key and that's it.

I noticed Gervais doesn't title any of the episodes, presumably because every one is the exact same.

Pop it in the bin.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 03:23:06 AM
The Sun on Twitter had a comment about the audience being stunned that Gervais appeared to be "ripped" (muscular) in After Life.

Someone commented "The only thing he's ripped is a fart on Karl's head".

That got me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 15, 2022, 03:48:55 AM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 03:23:06 AMThe Sun on Twitter had a comment about the audience being stunned that Gervais appeared to be "ripped" (muscular) in After Life.

Yeah man looks hench

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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: oy vey on January 15, 2022, 05:14:10 AM
This cunt in the afterlife yet?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 15, 2022, 06:54:04 AM
Quote from: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 02:14:17 AMOne small laugh for Tim Key and that's it.

Oh no, now I have to watch it. I didn't know he was in it.

I haven't seen any of it, but I'm curious, without having to watch it - in what way is Tony kind? I've seen the trailers and it looks like it's him effing and jeffing at people, yes, that's his grief acting up, let's give him a free pass, I get it.
But does he actually do any kind acts? Like he does end up baking a cake for the ginger kid, or ruffling his hair and saying "you can be anything you want when you grow up"? Does he do anything to show the heart of gold underneath the curmudgeonly exterior? I assume the kindness monologues are prompted by something
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 07:07:15 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 15, 2022, 06:54:04 AMOh no, now I have to watch it. I didn't know he was in it.

I haven't seen any of it, but I'm curious, without having to watch it - in what way is Tony kind? I've seen the trailers and it looks like it's him effing and jeffing at people, yes, that's his grief acting up, let's give him a free pass, I get it.
But does he actually do any kind acts? Like he does end up baking a cake for the ginger kid, or ruffling his hair and saying "you can be anything you want when you grow up"? Does he do anything to show the heart of gold underneath the curmudgeonly exterior? I assume the kindness monologues are prompted by something

Key in one small scene as Diane Morgan's date. The writing obviously nothing special, but Keys performance is as enjoyable as usual.

No, doesn't do one kind thing in 5 and a half episodes. Then meets a baldy cancer kiddy and that prompts our hero to be kiiiiiind.......for an hour.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 15, 2022, 07:10:27 AM
you get more bonus points for being kind to children, or people with cancer, so that's probably why it's the only kind thing he needs to do

maybe if the fat ginger kid had cancer tony would be kind  to him too

i'm glad key isn't a recurring character, I'll just try and find his scene
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Excellent_Biscuits on January 15, 2022, 07:36:43 AM
He's absolutely pissed out of his head. That's not acting. He's shitfaced.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 08:08:26 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 15, 2022, 07:10:27 AMi'm glad key isn't a recurring character, I'll just try and find his scene

Episode 4, bout 15 mins in.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Excellent_Biscuits on January 15, 2022, 08:11:55 AM
I think I'm on episode 2 now. It's so weirdly depressing.

Couple of big laughs in the first episode when I thought "what the fuck haha"

Now it's just 'Jam'. But not funny.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 15, 2022, 08:43:42 AM
I like how two not tough looking MRA types can go round bullying the whole town until a gypsy punches their heads in.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Excellent_Biscuits on January 15, 2022, 08:51:45 AM
I wonder if anyone says to eachother it's shit, in the canteen, while Ricky is in his helicopter?

They must do.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 10:42:06 AM
Actors must know how poor the script is. Even if they've only worked on Doctors or something
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 15, 2022, 10:45:13 AM
This being the final series, I'm going to watch it in the assumption that Gervais dies at the end, and if he doesn't, I'm putting a fucking pot plant through the telly.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: Excellent_Biscuits on January 15, 2022, 08:11:55 AMNow it's just 'Jam'. But not funny.

Oh FFS, you're all making it sound so bizarre that I'm going to end up watching it and hating myself for it.

Might put it on as background noise while I'm cooking dinner later just so I can tell myself I've been productive and Gervais hasn't just stolen three hours of my life.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 15, 2022, 07:10:27 AMyou get more bonus points for being kind to children, or people with cancer, so that's probably why it's the only kind thing he needs to do

Why did Cancer Kiddy induce an attack of Kindness in Tony while Cancer Wife's cancer just made him mean and angry? Does cancer only lead to Kindness if the patient is under 10?

EDIT: Oh gawd I've just had a horrible vision of Gervais starring as Walter White in a British remake of Breaking Bad. With Karl Pilkington as Jesse Pinkman.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Better Midlands on January 15, 2022, 11:02:08 AM
That fete finale was boring, the whole season is so lazy I can barely remember anything that happened.

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 11:06:52 AM
Do village fetes translate across the pond?

Also did the fete look weirdly inauthentic? Like the entire nameless English town this is set in?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 15, 2022, 11:08:02 AM
Quote from: olliebean on January 15, 2022, 10:45:13 AMThis being the final series, I'm going to watch it in the assumption that Gervais dies at the end, and if he doesn't, I'm putting a fucking pot plant through the telly.

Your telly will be safe
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 15, 2022, 11:11:01 AM
The end - spoilers - implies that soon after Tony sees himself as the new Jesus he goes mental and sees visions of his dead wife. This ultimately leads to him killing his dog, before hanging himself.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Farenheit on January 15, 2022, 11:14:28 AM
Watched it all on 1.5x speed, hitting the skip button through the montages and quite a few other bits.

The biggest problem is that it's boring for most of the time. Not as boring as the second series which was really bad, I think because Ricky's character didn't actually do anything, so all the outlandish behaviour was left to other characters rather than him, unlike the first series.

Spoiler alert
He's a bit more active this series throwing out the C-word, and giving us some (often violent) anti-social behaviour- all directed at people who don't deserve it. At least there was something new this series: the whole Ricky being great at sports stuff. I thought that was fantastic... the vanity of writing it, the tedious repetition of it- one episode after another with a different racket sport, the fact that he was so ungracious and arrogant with it (which we're supposed to hate when the 'bad' guys do it at penalties), the fact that he makes disgusting noises, deliberately belching loudly in his opponent's face (when we're supposed to love him calling out other people for inadvertently making noises), and... the fucking heart attack and almost instant recovery back to full health.
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It's obviously terrible but I love that something like this can be made- millions spent on one guy just writing a TV series with seemingly no idea of the fundamentals of how to do so, no second draft (I'm guessing), no one to tell him when something might not work... I just wish it had been more weird and less boring.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 11:18:43 AM
Yeah, if I was a writer with Gervais's clout and financial backing I'd use my imagination and be a bit more ambitious and turn in something mental. Like Michael Flatley doing Blackbird.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 11:21:46 AM
I got to episode four last night and just couldn't hack it anymore. He treats Ashley Jensen (as well as everyone else) like total shit, I just don't get why she keeps trying.

I've been re-watching New Girl, and even though they're totally different shows, they make good comparisons, because Nick Miller (as played wonderfully by Jake Johnson) is a similarly crotchety, grouchy curmudgeon; but he has such palpable chemistry with his romantic co-lead Zooey Deschanel and Nick's sweet, caring moments far outweigh his grouchy moments when it comes to the things that really matter.

It's not even a character type that's that rare, the sweet-grump, so it's not like the writers of New Girl are doing anything daring or radical; it's a pretty tradition, post-Friends flatshare sitcom. So for Gervais to fuck it up so badly until (I hear, I haven't gotten to episode 5) the introduction of cancer kid is just bad writing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wrec on January 15, 2022, 12:30:17 PM
I did a Twitter search to see if anyone I was following was praising it or him in general. There was only one, who ironically is recovering from cancer. Unfollowed.



(PS it was someone I followed for a political thing years ago, who didn't follow or ever engage with me and won't even notice. I'm not a monster!)


Curious as to what actually happens in the end and don't want to subject myself to a hatewatch. Can someone do a detailed spoiler?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: gotmilk on January 15, 2022, 01:36:26 PM
(http://imgur.com/gallery/w05RXSZ)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: gotmilk on January 15, 2022, 01:46:55 PM
Why won't my image appear
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 15, 2022, 01:52:09 PM
dunno
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: gotmilk on January 15, 2022, 01:53:26 PM
https://imgur.com/gallery/w05RXSZ
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 01:59:33 PM
I think it's because the link doesn't end with .jpg

Imgur is a pain in the arse for that, but I think if you click Share on a Desktop one of the link options should end in .jpg
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: g0m on January 15, 2022, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: gotmilk on January 15, 2022, 01:36:26 PM(http://imgur.com/gallery/w05RXSZ)
Quote from: gotmilk on January 15, 2022, 01:46:55 PMWhy won't my image appear

because that's the link to the webpage, not to the image. you want https://i.imgur.com/3cIJhpD.jpeg
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 02:06:37 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3cIJhpD.jpeg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 02:09:24 PM
It originates in the Roman military, Gervais you thick ignorant twat, and has been used in drilled armies modelled on it (like, all of them in Europe)

That's not even a naval salute, which is performed with the palm down.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 15, 2022, 02:12:26 PM
Am 8 minutes in and it's very boring. Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but the reading by the self-published author is very close to how all of Gervais' work comes across. I love it when Tony asks her a question about plot detail and she just shrugs it off saying "haven't thought about it. Doesn't matter". He really has put a lot of himself into that character.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chocky909 on January 15, 2022, 02:23:00 PM
That Land Rover that Ricky threw his cactus at at the end of Ep1 was far too close to the Zebra Crossing when Ricky reached it for it to be expected to stop in time to let him cross. Everything else was great. Another triumph from Gervais.

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 03:30:21 PM
QuoteChatting to RadioTimes.com about why he chose to end the show in that way, Gervais said: "The fair is important because it's been going for 500 years. It's a place where people have been going for 500 years, different people. And the ending is saying that we all die, but not today. And life goes on. That's what that ending is."

Gervais added: "I think it's a good ending, I think it's a hopeful ending, and I think it's a real ending. And it's just saying, that was that. What's next? Because the whole show is all about endings and beginnings. It's all about people thrown together randomly.


As deep as a puddle.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 03:35:32 PM
Ricky's gone RT mad today, as his fans weep when his chubby finger does a like on their insane praise about how it made them leak from every orifice

very normal behavior
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 03:38:36 PM
It's got a great rating on Rotten Tomatoes:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/after_life/s03

Spoiler alert
for the audience score
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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 03:39:36 PM
Hitler was popular too.

Please someone kill baby Gervais.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 03:44:35 PM
Quote from: wrec on January 15, 2022, 12:30:17 PMI did a Twitter search to see if anyone I was following was praising it or him in general. There was only one, who ironically is recovering from cancer. Unfollowed.



(PS it was someone I followed for a political thing years ago, who didn't follow or ever engage with me and won't even notice. I'm not a monster!)


Curious as to what actually happens in the end and don't want to subject myself to a hatewatch. Can someone do a detailed spoiler?

Spoiler alert
Tony meets a cancer kid with the same name as his cancer wife, and this is supposed to spark a realisation about his behaviour,
although it's not clear what this is, as he's had realisations about his behaviour in basically every episode, and he doesn't actually appear to act any differently  after this occurs. He then goes to a village fete where all the other characters are, and they all have a lovely day, but it's not really because of him, even though it feels like the show thinks it is. It's sort-of played that he pairs up all the lonely female characters with lonely male characters, but it's all so half-hearted it doesn't really matter. Anyway, he leaves the fair, gives Tony Way a sad salute that implies "I'm off to kill myself", and wanders across a field. The ghost of Cancer Wife appears and they walk hand-in-hand, until she fades away. They keep walking, and then the dog fades away, and then Tony. All dead, happy ending.
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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 03:48:59 PM
Thinking about it, absolutely nothing appears to have happened in the final series. I can't see that anything has changed or developed since series 1, just repeats of the same overwrought speeches about kindness. The finale is just a jumble of vague 'nice' bits. I can't see how anything he says in that Radio Times quote is borne out in the episode itself.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 03:48:59 PMThinking about it, absolutely nothing appears to have happened in the final series. I can't see that anything has changed or developed since series 1, just repeats of the same overwrought speeches about kindness. The finale is just a jumble of vague 'nice' bits. I can't see how anything he says in that Radio Times quote is borne out in the episode itself.

Has so little ever happened in 18 episodes of TV before?

Apart from 'saving' the paper (by talking about his dead wife?!?) and facilitating the death of a junkie Tony could have just slit his wrists in the opening scene of the first episode of the first series.

The more I think about it, the more I suspect the entire show has just been one big money laundering scheme/way to get him and his pals a nice pay day. A bit like Adam Sandler films.

They've definitely not put the money on screen as it looks like an airbrushed episode of Doctors.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 15, 2022, 04:12:35 PM
The thing about Adam Sandler films though is that they are really popular in Germany (or Poland or somewhere) like how Norman Wisdom was massive in Albania and Jerry Lewis in France. This is just nothing. Have nearly got through all 6 eps as have fuck all to do today but it's so boring.

I think you're posts have been dead on @BritishHobo - and agree he could have just killed himself in the first episode and there wouldn't have been much of a chaos theory ripple through this weird universe.

The Tim Key bit is good. Apart from two excellent performers it also feels like it was written by someone else.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 15, 2022, 04:24:04 PM
Might be Turkey, thinking about it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 04:34:48 PM
And at least Adam Sandler pulls out a Punch Drunk Love or Uncut Gems occasionally.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 04:45:12 PM
Quote from: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 03:30:21 PMAs deep as a puddle.

It's weird the way he's always explaining what everything means in his shows despite them hardly meaning anything at all. Compare him to David Lynch whose work is almost inscrutable and ask him what it means, he won't tell you, it's up to your interpretation.

Gervais is now all about half assed, or quarter assed shows, loads of interviews explaining everything despite that not being required, social media engagement and retweets and having loads of money and as many awards as possible. Then bragging about the money and awards.

If his younger self saw this he'd be horrified. Derek and After Life are basically sad, depressing versions of When The Whistle Blows. In Extras when Gervais goes into the BBC to talk about the show they're developing and they have ideas to broaden it and Ricky talks about auteurs and a single person's vision, you know that's his personal belief. What happened to that?

I think Ricky got famous pretty much at his first try. The Office was his first real go at scripted comedy and became like a billion dollar industry and cultural touchstone, almost single handedly popularising the docucomedy genre. It's interesting that this basically broke his brain completely but Merchant seemed to maintain some sort of normalcy. Maybe because Mercant wasn't invited over to America to be fellated by Matt Groening and Larry David had some bearing on it. Or maybe some people's minds aren't well equipped for fame.

I do have a small bit of sympathy though, I think fame, particularly mega fame, is not normal and it can take an extraordinary mind not to get caught in the trap fame can present. Thousands of people vying for your attention and saying what a genius you are. It's enough to warp anyone's brain.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 04:34:48 PMAnd at least Adam Sandler pulls out a Punch Drunk Love or Uncut Gems occasionally.

I just meant those from his production company that star the same list of his mates and cost millions but look incredibly cheap and are zero effort.

You just wonder where the money's gone.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 04:46:25 PM
Quote from: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 03:30:21 PMIt's all about people thrown together randomly

I agree with Gervais here. The script is similarly assembled.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 03:59:53 PMway to get him and his pals a nice pay day

That's why Wilton did this. All she has to do is sit on a bench and mumble out a few lines and she probably gets fifty or a hundred grand for doing it. None of the non Tony characters really have to do anything because none of their characters are explored in any way. Any time a supporting character interacts with Tony the entire scene is Tony talking about Tony and his deceased wife. It does fuck all for the quality of the show but it's an easy gig.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 04:57:15 PM
I have wondered if the comedians in this like Diane Morgan, Paul Kaye, Tim Key etc are hoping they'll get noticed and get a Netflix stand-up special out of this. Fair play to 'em, it'd be the least they deserved.

Quote from: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 03:44:35 PM
Spoiler alert
Tony meets a cancer kid with the same name as his cancer wife, and this is supposed to spark a realisation about his behaviour,
although it's not clear what this is, as he's had realisations about his behaviour in basically every episode, and he doesn't actually appear to act any differently  after this occurs. He then goes to a village fete where all the other characters are, and they all have a lovely day, but it's not really because of him, even though it feels like the show thinks it is. It's sort-of played that he pairs up all the lonely female characters with lonely male characters, but it's all so half-hearted it doesn't really matter. Anyway, he leaves the fair, gives Tony Way a sad salute that implies "I'm off to kill myself", and wanders across a field. The ghost of Cancer Wife appears and they walk hand-in-hand, until she fades away. They keep walking, and then the dog fades away, and then Tony. All dead, happy ending.
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...so, he's seen the first episode of This Country but had no idea why it's so great? Or how it was influenced by his good early stuff?

(cheers BH. Might still have to watch it though to see how something which sounds so mental is inevitably actually boring)

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on January 15, 2022, 05:35:53 PM
Quote from: Ferris on January 14, 2022, 02:10:36 PMThat review posted by @sevendaughters a few posts up is definitely worth a read if anyone skipped it. A highlight:


I've actually never watched After Life but that review makes me want to
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 05:46:36 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 04:51:49 PMThat's why Wilton did this. All she has to do is sit on a bench and mumble out a few lines and she probably gets fifty or a hundred grand for doing it. None of the non Tony characters really have to do anything because none of their characters are explored in any way. Any time a supporting character interacts with Tony the entire scene is Tony talking about Tony and his deceased wife. It does fuck all for the quality of the show but it's an easy gig.

Yeah. Win/win for the supporting cast. Look at the actress who played Sandy (had to look that up). I remember when I saw the first episode I foolishly gave Gervais too much credit and thought it might turn out to be her story as much as Tony's as the show went on and that they would help each other blah blah blah but of course not. That would involve character development. Instead, she wasn't so much one dimensional as barely even there at all, existing purely to serve the Tony character and spend most of the time sat in the background looking slightly confused what she was actually doing there. But easy work. Nice one for the CV. And a decent pay cheque. Zero effort.

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: Jockice on January 15, 2022, 05:35:53 PMI've actually never watched After Life but that review makes me want to

Wasn't going to watch S3 at all but the temptation for a hate watch is strong.

S1 is just about stupid and odd enough to make it entertaining. There are some really clunky moments that are far funnier than the intended comedy. The drugs episode is hilariously bad.

S2 is one of the most turgid series of any TV show ever made. Nothing happens.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: shlug on January 15, 2022, 06:01:56 PM
Got up to episode 2 and there's a scene where they're viewing some awful shoebox studio flat and couldn't help but be reminded of a very similar scene in the Extras Christmas special with Maggie viewing some dingy flat.

Difference is the Extras one was actually somewhat moving and well produced, even with a bit where the agent shows his racial prejudice which is played for a bit of a laugh.

In After Life the scene is almost a carbon copy but simply magnitudes shitter in every way. It's not poignant or entertaining, acting is lifeless and the scene (much like most I've seen so far) don't advance the "story" in any way. The agent makes a not so subtle joke about the woman's weight by implying there's a lot of takeaways (complete with motion towards her physique (because she is fat)) paralleling the racist agent from the former but After Life is so removed from how anyone behaves it comes across more bizarre and jarring than an ironic take of estate agents being shit people.

It's a sad indictment of his progressively lazy writing and the unspoken influence of Merchant in the quality control department. How anyone can watch both iterations of the same scene and think After Life's is better is baffling.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 15, 2022, 06:13:28 PM
Blimey the fun police are out today.

I made the time to sit down and watch it, and found it an engaging and thoughtful piece of work. Is it as strong as the Office? No, but how could it be. What After Life actually does do is a understated sense of poignancy, and is at its strongest focusing on small moments of recognizable, human, empathetic character in all of its parts and no I can't write like this any more it is absolute shit. Like watching a fermenting dog egg, but in sepia.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: shlug on January 15, 2022, 06:32:25 PM
I just didn't like that scene in particular, no need to be mean :(

As the great philosopher Ricky Gervais once said "be kind, you cunt"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: Ferris on January 15, 2022, 06:13:28 PMBlimey the fun police are out today.

I made the time to sit down and watch it, and found it an engaging and thoughtful piece of work. Is it as strong as the Office? No, but how could it be. What After Life actually does do is a understated sense of poignancy, and is at its strongest focusing on small moments of recognizable, human, empathetic character in all of its parts and no I can't write like this any more it is absolute shit. Like watching a fermenting dog egg, but in sepia.

You had me going for a bit.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jack Shaftoe on January 15, 2022, 06:47:25 PM
Quote from: lauraxsynthesis on January 14, 2022, 11:37:31 PMWhile I agree with the above critiques about the nastiness, laziness etc I also like the programme. Series 1 came out soon after my husband died and though I kinda disliked Gervais and thought some of his work was abysmal I had a look and both series 1 and series 2 were really helpful to watch from this widow's point of view.

Sorry to hear that. Well, I'm glad to hear it was helpful but sorry to hear that... you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 15, 2022, 06:52:43 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 04:57:15 PMI have wondered if the comedians in this like Diane Morgan, Paul Kaye, Tim Key etc are hoping they'll get noticed and get a Netflix stand-up special out of this. Fair play to 'em, it'd be the least they deserved.


(cheers BH. Might still have to watch it though to see how something which sounds so mental is inevitably actually boring)


I assumed that's why the younger people are in it. I assumed Penelope Wilton and Paul Egan either have massive gambling debts to pay off or it was just piss easy money. I can't blame any of them, I'd do the same and this rubbish was getting made regardless. I would recommend you put it on in the background though unless you have the time to waste. This would just to be a completist.

Bits that made me laugh -
- the found footage of him with the punch bag. I imagine he was all Raging Bull in his head but he looked like one of those repo men on a Channel 5 programme who, despite being 50 "train MMA" in their spare time.
- the racket sport madness. Would love to know why that had to go in there. Absolutely didn't need to be there for the Tom Basden plot development. The tennis was particularly funny.
- the continued assault on James Cordon via a proxy (all because of that impression he did - which is really good)
- I genuinely laughed at the camp theatre agent and his Taxi Driver number. Another bit that really felt like it had been written by someone else or at least in collaboration with someone else.
- The final shot of Tony waddling away. Once he's on his own in the shot you can't miss that he is a tubby little man.

Spoiler alert
One thing that pleased me was despite Tony clearly thinking "I did all this" at the end of the fair sequence, what people would remember of him when he's brought up in conversation as "remember that bloke who killed himself" would be: "oh yea him. Killed his dog too didn't he? No need for that".
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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 06:54:43 PM
QuoteSeries 3 was.... incredibly moving, savagely funny and a stunning achievement for this generations finest comedy actor/writer/director
QuoteJust watched series three . All characters are fabulous and down to earth just like real life . Cried my eyes out on series three but with happiness where Ricky sought had put all the characters together with happy endings .
QuoteMy favourite is Tony's mate who just gets called shrek all day 🤣
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on January 15, 2022, 06:55:13 PM
QuoteIt's a sad indictment of his progressively lazy writing and the unspoken influence of Merchant in the quality control department. How anyone can watch both iterations of the same scene and think After Life's is better is baffling

I noticed another thing lifted from Extras. When he's sat on the bench, the widow tells a story where she gets upset that she didn't laugh at a shit joke her husband made. Extremely similar to the Extras Xmas special where Gervais in the Big Brother house gets upset that he dismissed Maggies 'would you rather' question.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 06:55:23 PM
I'm not crying, you're crying.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 15, 2022, 06:57:57 PM
So many forum posts about something so insubstantial.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 15, 2022, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 04:45:12 PMIf his younger self saw this he'd be horrified. Derek and After Life are basically sad, depressing versions of When The Whistle Blows. In Extras when Gervais goes into the BBC to talk about the show they're developing and they have ideas to broaden it and Ricky talks about auteurs and a single person's vision, you know that's his personal belief. What happened to that?


I think Gervais has not understood that there is a difference between a single person's vision and having an editor or script consultant. That's very different from having a big writer's room or rewrites based on focus groups. It's ironic (maybe) that his insistence on one person's vision has produced something that could have been really good (it wouldn't have been The Office, but the premise of After Life is sound I think) has turned out to more like When The Whistle Blows.


Just remembered I got excited when I thought that the first estate agent was Nick Mohammed.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on January 15, 2022, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 15, 2022, 07:00:18 PMI think Gervais has not understood that there is a difference between a single person's vision and having an editor or script consultant.

Didn't he get the meaning of "a giraffe is a horse designed by committee" wrong in one of the podcasts? "there's no vision"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 07:21:37 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 15, 2022, 07:00:18 PMI think Gervais has not understood that there is a difference between a single person's vision and having an editor or script consultant.

It doesn't help the quality when you know Netflix will pay you 10 million for your first draught. Why would he bother honing it when he gets paid the same even if he doesn't? Other than for professional integrity or pride in your work which he has clearly demonstrated he doesn't have.

He used to do an anecdote about trying to get on a football team as a kid and when he failed to do so he vowed to never try at anything again in his life. I always thought that was just a funny little anecdote but Derek, After Life and his stand up comedy means I can consider that story with a different, more straightforward perspective.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wrec on January 15, 2022, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 03:44:35 PM
Spoiler alert
Tony meets a cancer kid with the same name as his cancer wife, and this is supposed to spark a realisation about his behaviour,
although it's not clear what this is, as he's had realisations about his behaviour in basically every episode, and he doesn't actually appear to act any differently  after this occurs. He then goes to a village fete where all the other characters are, and they all have a lovely day, but it's not really because of him, even though it feels like the show thinks it is. It's sort-of played that he pairs up all the lonely female characters with lonely male characters, but it's all so half-hearted it doesn't really matter. Anyway, he leaves the fair, gives Tony Way a sad salute that implies "I'm off to kill myself", and wanders across a field. The ghost of Cancer Wife appears and they walk hand-in-hand, until she fades away. They keep walking, and then the dog fades away, and then Tony. All dead, happy ending.
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Thanks for that. Fascinated by the "sad salute". Kind of strange that there's not a backlash about it being flippant about suicide and mental health.

I can see why lowest common denominator stuff like Mrs Brown's Boys appeals to people but I'm freaked out by the reaction to this. https://twitter.com/search?q=gervais%20genius%20masterpiece
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 07:27:19 PM
I think he encourages this cultish behaviour because theres a chance he might retweet you to his 14.5M (!) followers
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 15, 2022, 07:32:22 PM
Lost my dog to gout, my girlfriend and unborn child died in a car crash and my whole family were lost in a house fire but After Life Series 3 has to be the saddest thing I've seen all year. Gervais has done it again!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 15, 2022, 07:35:53 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 06:46:57 PMYou had me going for a bit.

I tried to make it halfway believable but it took some doing
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neveragain on January 15, 2022, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: wrec on January 15, 2022, 07:24:15 PMThanks for that. Fascinated by the "sad salute". Kind of strange that there's not a backlash about it being flippant about suicide and mental health.

The ending doesn't imply he commits suicide, it's more that he just lives for a bit then dies like everyone else (hence Gervais' comments about the fair and life going on and etc etc). The salute confuses this but I really don't believe the character took his own life. His wife fading away then the dog then him just suggests the passing of time, as far as I see it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 15, 2022, 07:41:24 PM
Maybe he saw Detectorists and was trying to crib the ending time lapse bits.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 15, 2022, 07:42:02 PM
If only Fred West had of seen Ricky Gervais' After Life Series 3.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wrec on January 15, 2022, 07:51:55 PM
Quote from: neveragain on January 15, 2022, 07:39:11 PMThe ending doesn't imply he commits suicide, it's more that he just lives for a bit then dies like everyone else (hence Gervais' comments about the fair and life going on and etc etc). The salute confuses this but I really don't believe the character took his own life. His wife fading away then the dog then him just suggests the passing of time, as far as I see it.

That's also pretty much the ending of Still Game, but in that you have all the long running elderly characters disappearing in a poignant reminder that they'll all be gone in a few years, not just one messianic bully and his fucking dog.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Better Midlands on January 15, 2022, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 15, 2022, 06:52:43 PM- I genuinely laughed at the camp theatre agent and his Taxi Driver number. Another bit that really felt like it had been written by someone else or at least in collaboration with someone else.

T'was a good turn from the actor, it felt like he was channeling his inner Reece Shearsmith though.

Spoiler alert
Hi Reece
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Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 08:13:22 PM
I wonder if deep down there is a seething bitterness inside Gervais about the switch in his audience.

Im pretty sure, whilst he would boast about the DVD sales etc, that he used to take the old indie band 'We make it for us, if anyone else likes it then thats just a bonus' attitude towards things and he struck me as a comedy snob and quite anti-populist.

Even though he was sorely out of his depth you could tell he loved it when he was doing roundtable dissections about 'what is comedy?' with the likes of Seinfeld and Chris Rock and was knocking about with Louis CK and Larry David and Sarah Silverman. Critics mostly liked his works. It was Baftas and Golden Globes.

Post-Merchant it's been very different. He is now reviled by most of his old audience, critically tolerated at best and is reduced to pandering to Pet Twitter and the kind of people who vote for the NTA's and read TV Quick.

So now he has to cling to all the unverifable Netflix viewing numbers and all the nice tweets he gets as proof of how good his work is.

Not that there's anything wrong with being populist but I think Gervais probably hates the fact that whereas 13 years ago he was being wined and dined by Americas finest and was something of a critics darling he is now reduced to appealing to people who have despite being fierce advocats of living, laughing and loving taken 20-30 years or more to discover the concept of something being sad and happy at the same time.

From Seinfeld to Youtube banter merchants like Jaaackmaaate or whatever the fuck hes called is quite the decline. 

Basically he must know that all his old industry pals and probably two thirds of the cast of his own show think it's complete shite?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 07:21:37 PMIt doesn't help the quality when you know Netflix will pay you 10 million for your first draught. Why would he bother honing it when he gets paid the same even if he doesn't? Other than for professional integrity or pride in your work which he has clearly demonstrated he doesn't have.

He used to do an anecdote about trying to get on a football team as a kid and when he failed to do so he vowed to never try at anything again in his life. I always thought that was just a funny little anecdote but Derek, After Life and his stand up comedy means I can consider that story with a different, more straightforward perspective.


It's like in that video critique of S2 someone posted the guy points out that in the same interview Gervais tries to intellectualise the choice of such a bland, cosy, comfortable village as the setting because it proves that 'you can be unhappy anywhere' or some such shit.

But then a few minutes later he's cackling like a Hyena about the fact that it was shot as close to his house in Hampstead and his house in the country as possible because he's fucking lazy and it was easy. So zero effort, haha I didn't bother and just wanted an easy time of it.

It's obvious which is the genuine explanation.

He just takes the laziest route possible and then tries to come up with a fancy explanation for it afterwards. Like the fact he uses the same old boring cast playing such similar characters. It's not because he's a lazy cunt! Oh no! It's because he's built up a trusted team of people he knows he can work with during his time in the industry. Of course.

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 08:13:22 PMBasically he must know that all his old industry pals and probably two thirds of the cast of his own show think it's complete shite?

It's absolutely this. I think that's what his Golden Globe hosting gigs were about, too.

After The Office and Extras he tried to make a stab at America loads of times. Not just the round tables as you mentioned, but cameos in Ben Stiller movies and other such things.

The hosting gigs - for as much as he was "telling it like it is," we're as much about reclaiming what he had lost.

Which is why I'm enjoying seeing Merchant being so warmly embraced by Hollywood.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 08:43:35 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 08:26:20 PMIt's absolutely this. I think that's what his Golden Globe hosting gigs were about, too.

After The Office and Extras he tried to make a stab at America loads of times. Not just the round tables as you mentioned, but cameos in Ben Stiller movies and other such things.

The hosting gigs - for as much as he was "telling it like it is," we're as much about reclaiming what he had lost.

Which is why I'm enjoying seeing Merchant being so warmly embraced by Hollywood.

And there was no danger in what he was doing. Despite the excruciating 'I dont care, ill never work in this town again (until next year when they invite me back)' showboating it was pitifully safe. He didn't end up sitting at the table with De Niro etc like he probably thought he should be and knew his niche was as mildly contentious Court Jester who could still get on the chat show circuit and get a nice cheque from Netflix.

I've noticed a definite correlation between those who think his GG 'roasts' were searing examples of speaking truth to power and those who find Afterlife to be a work of tragi-comic genius. 

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 08:44:23 PM
Isn't that salute the Benny Hill salute?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 08:48:37 PM
I'm on episode six now, and it opens with Deatchcab for Cutie's I'll Follow You Into the Dark.

I lost it.

"OH FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING HACK!"

Or the use of Radiohead or Sufism Stevens or Cat Stevens. Great music picked by a hack with no taste beyond the obvious.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 08:48:37 PMI'm on episode six now, and it opens with Deatchcab for Cutie's I'll Follow You Into the Dark.

I lost it.

"OH FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING HACK!"

Or the use of Radiohead or Sufism Stevens or Cat Stevens. Great music picked by a hack with no taste beyond the obvious.

Now you mention it the soundtrack is the only aspect of the entire thing where they seem to have spent some money. Licensing 'Rocketman' for season 1 probably blew the entire budget.

Nothing will ever beat 'Fix You' in Derek for such a painfully obvious and trite choice of song. And so fucking lazy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ron Superior on January 15, 2022, 09:33:59 PM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 08:13:22 PMI wonder if deep down there is a seething bitterness inside Gervais about the switch in his audience.

I've often thought this too. Whenever he's RTing ridiculous praise from morons, I think about the bit in, I think, his first stand-up special where he recounts a fan shouting to him "BRENT!" and he goes off going "wow that's original, can we be friends" etc.

That's now what all his fans are. It's like a reverse Stewart Lee, accidentally shedding all the fans he wants and just keeping all the ones he thinks are beneath him.

It feeds in to the not bothering beyond first draft either. No point in even trying to get that critical acclaim back, and his fans will lap it up whatever.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: StewartLeehaslethimselfgo on January 15, 2022, 09:36:21 PM
I've just seen Afterlife series 3 and... nothing prepares you for this. I cheered, I shouted, I fist pumped the air, I cried, I stood and cheered, it's absolutely everything you hoped it was going to be
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 09:45:54 PM
I never finished The Outlaws, so after finishing After Life season three, I'm catching up where I left off from episode three.

It's not perfect, but Merchant's writing is very tight (especially in comparison to After Life). A lot of the storylines are genuinely compelling, if sometimes a little cliche riddled (not necessarily a bad thing; a well executed cliche can make for decent storytelling).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 09:51:37 PM
Quote from: Ron Superior on January 15, 2022, 09:33:59 PMhe recounts a fan shouting to him "BRENT!" and he goes off going "wow that's original, can we be friends" etc.

I think he does a bit about autograph hunters, something like "They're a mess, and I don't mean their hair, I mean their DNA". Now those same types are just on Twitter. The difference is a retweet from a superfan is arguably usable for marketing/hype purposes whereas someone standing outside a gig with a pad and pen is less so.

It's all very cynical from the boy Gervais.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: g0m on January 15, 2022, 09:53:50 PM
Quote from: olliebean on January 15, 2022, 06:57:57 PMSo many forum posts about something so insubstantial.

This is a good all purpose post for any thread on any forum anywhere
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 09:56:40 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 09:51:37 PMI think he does a bit about autograph hunters, something like "They're a mess, and I don't mean their hair, I mean their DNA". Now those same types are just on Twitter. The difference is a retweet from a superfan is arguably usable for marketing/hype purposes whereas someone standing outside a gig with a pad and pen is less so.

It's all very cynical from the boy Gervais.

Quote from: Ron Superior on January 15, 2022, 09:33:59 PMI've often thought this too. Whenever he's RTing ridiculous praise from morons, I think about the bit in, I think, his first stand-up special where he recounts a fan shouting to him "BRENT!" and he goes off going "wow that's original, can we be friends" etc.

That's now what all his fans are. It's like a reverse Stewart Lee, accidentally shedding all the fans he wants and just keeping all the ones he thinks are beneath him.

It feeds in to the not bothering beyond first draft either. No point in even trying to get that critical acclaim back, and his fans will lap it up whatever.

Don't forget his appearance at the Concert For Diana where he almost said "Shut the fuck up" in front of the live audience of a family show in response to them chanting "DANCE! DANCE! DANCE!"


It's like people shouting "OI! MONTY! DO YOUR FUNNY WALK!" at John Cleese, except Ricky literally had no other material.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 09:45:54 PMI never finished The Outlaws, so after finishing After Life season three, I'm catching up where I left off from episode three.

It's not perfect, but Merchant's writing is very tight (especially in comparison to After Life). A lot of the storylines are genuinely compelling, if sometimes a little cliche riddled (not necessarily a bad thing; a well executed cliche can make for decent storytelling).

Right? I cannot imagine Gervais having even the basic insight necessary to write the dynamic between Darren Boyd's right-wing Daily-Mail-reading businessman and Clare Perkins' furious, impassioned activist. He's so trapped in his own broad, stupid ideas about what the world is like, he wouldn't be able to even begin to approach that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 15, 2022, 10:08:11 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 09:57:24 PMRight? I cannot imagine Gervais having even the basic insight necessary to write the dynamic between Darren Boyd's right-wing Daily-Mail-reading businessman and Clare Perkins' furious, impassioned activist. He's so trapped in his own broad, stupid ideas about what the world is like, he wouldn't be able to even begin to approach that.

That was some very good writing. Also the dynamic between Merchant's clueless lawyer and Eleanor Tomlinson.

It's also obvious that the Tim and Dawn relationship came from Merchant. There's a really sweet will-they-won't-they romance between the lead two teens.

Again, no cliche left unturned, but the man knows how to use 'em.

I like how he's using the tropes of the western and applying it to the British comedy-drama.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 08:19:40 PMIt's like in that video critique of S2 someone posted the guy points out that in the same interview Gervais tries to intellectualise the choice of such a bland, cosy, comfortable village as the setting because it proves that 'you can be unhappy anywhere' or some such shit.

Does he actually? Jesus christ. If so I think that's a perfect example of what I mean. Everything he does is based in subverting his own inaccurate view on what he thinks other people think. He has no idea how the world works, but he's seen cosy villages on TV, so he thinks we all unquestioningly think that a cosy village is the happiest place you could possibly live. He thinks we're all going to go 'jesus christ, he lives there, and yet he's unhappy?! But HOW?!" As if there aren't countless books and TV shows and perspectives about how small town/village life can be isolating and miserable and insular. As if one of the best UK comedies of recent times (This Country) isn't all about that dead-end feeling of living in some closed-off rural community. He thinks that we all think of lovely small towns with village greens and a nice local bobby, and we're all to have our minds blown when a boring rich cunt turns up to his job at the local paper and goes 'god life is shit'.

It reminds me of a quote he said when the David Brent film came out. He said his reasoning for not getting any other Office castmembers back, and not returning to Wernham Hogg, was that it wouldn't be believable to see people still working in the same office fifteen years later. I thought, you really don't have a fucking clue about anything, do you?

He fundamentally doesn't understand any of the topics he covers, because he's spent decades having smoke blown up his arse in the celebrity world, and yet he approaches every single one as if he's shattering long-held truths. Same with Derek, the idea that the viewing public would be blown away to discover that Derek, a man who looks and acts odd, is capable of being kind!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: the science eel on January 15, 2022, 10:09:45 PM
Quote from: g0m on January 15, 2022, 09:53:50 PMThis is a good all purpose post for any thread on any forum anywhere

But this is as good an example as you'll find.

You're obsessed
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: McChesney Duntz on January 15, 2022, 10:17:43 PM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 08:13:22 PMI wonder if deep down there is a seething bitterness inside Gervais about the switch in his audience.

Im pretty sure, whilst he would boast about the DVD sales etc, that he used to take the old indie band 'We make it for us, if anyone else likes it then thats just a bonus' attitude towards things and he struck me as a comedy snob and quite anti-populist.

Even though he was sorely out of his depth you could tell he loved it when he was doing roundtable dissections about 'what is comedy?' with the likes of Seinfeld and Chris Rock and was knocking about with Louis CK and Larry David and Sarah Silverman. Critics mostly liked his works. It was Baftas and Golden Globes.

Post-Merchant it's been very different. He is now reviled by most of his old audience, critically tolerated at best and is reduced to pandering to Pet Twitter and the kind of people who vote for the NTA's and read TV Quick.

So now he has to cling to all the unverifable Netflix viewing numbers and all the nice tweets he gets as proof of how good his work is.

Not that there's anything wrong with being populist but I think Gervais probably hates the fact that whereas 13 years ago he was being wined and dined by Americas finest and was something of a critics darling he is now reduced to appealing to people who have despite being fierce advocats of living, laughing and loving taken 20-30 years or more to discover the concept of something being sad and happy at the same time.

From Seinfeld to Youtube banter merchants like Jaaackmaaate or whatever the fuck hes called is quite the decline. 

Basically he must know that all his old industry pals and probably two thirds of the cast of his own show think it's complete shite?

Oh man, it's the Bowie episode of Extras come true, isn't it? Embracing the equivalent of a night at the pub with Count Fuckula and his mates after all the cool people have rejected him. Albeit with an utterly obscene amount of money to cushion that particular blow.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 08:44:23 PMIsn't that salute the Benny Hill salute?
Benny Hill's salute is palm forward, which as far as I understand is English army

American military is diagonal, which is what he's doing

Navy is palm horizontal, traditionally because sailors hands were dirty from tugging at ropes (and wanking) and you didnt want to show them to an officer (dirty boy)

some squaddie can correct me if I am as usual, totally wrong
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on January 15, 2022, 10:35:24 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 10:27:32 PMsome squaddie can correct me
I BET they can you dirty old bollocks.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 10:39:35 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 15, 2022, 10:09:09 PMDoes he actually? Jesus christ. If so I think that's a perfect example of what I mean. Everything he does is based in subverting his own inaccurate view on what he thinks other people think. He has no idea how the world works, but he's seen cosy villages on TV, so he thinks we all unquestioningly think that a cosy village is the happiest place you could possibly live. He thinks we're all going to go 'jesus christ, he lives there, and yet he's unhappy?! But HOW?!" As if there aren't countless books and TV shows and perspectives about how small town/village life can be isolating and miserable and insular. As if one of the best UK comedies of recent times (This Country) isn't all about that dead-end feeling of living in some closed-off rural community. He thinks that we all think of lovely small towns with village greens and a nice local bobby, and we're all to have our minds blown when a boring rich cunt turns up to his job at the local paper and goes 'god life is shit'.

It reminds me of a quote he said when the David Brent film came out. He said his reasoning for not getting any other Office castmembers back, and not returning to Wernham Hogg, was that it wouldn't be believable to see people still working in the same office fifteen years later. I thought, you really don't have a fucking clue about anything, do you?

He fundamentally doesn't understand any of the topics he covers, because he's spent decades having smoke blown up his arse in the celebrity world, and yet he approaches every single one as if he's shattering long-held truths. Same with Derek, the idea that the viewing public would be blown away to discover that Derek, a man who looks and acts odd, is capable of being kind!!!!!!

It's incredible really, the way he repeats some fairly obvious and banal human truths that most people grasp before they reach adulthood:

Don't judge a book by its cover

It's usually a nice idea to be kind if you can

You can't escape yourself

And does it in such a way where he seems convinced he's some kind of modern day Copernicus/Aristotle sharing his revelatory thoughts with us mere peasants.

Sadly he feels empowered to do so because he has stumbled across a sycophantic audience of fucking idiots who genuinely do seem to find such trite and basic shit to be some kind of philosophy. It's why he's so popular with the Live the life you love, Love the life you live crowd.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 15, 2022, 10:41:08 PM
Quote from: kalowski on January 15, 2022, 10:35:24 PMI BET they can you dirty old bollocks.
fucks sake. petarded again
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 15, 2022, 10:47:35 PM
Has Gervais ever mentioned This Country at all? A show massively influenced by The Office, whose creators have acknowledged this and praised the show on numerous occasions, which is critically acclaimed and has won awards, and which (most crucially of all) is getting an American remake? He must have been curious and noticed it, surely?

The "You can be miserable anywhere" thing is such bollocks too. Everything from BoJack Horseman to Succession to The White Lotus has done that recently and done it better.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 16, 2022, 04:37:14 AM
QuoteSo the other day i was on a train coming back from my hometown, and, I was on the train and this girl walks on, good looking girl. And I thought "aye up", largely empty carriage, I'm thinking my lucks in. You know, cos I take every opportunity, that's the thing about me, you know I don't choose.

Good looking girl, she sat down, she was sat down right near me, I thought brilliant, and there's this guy, a guy comes up right behind her right. And I think, it's probably her dad or something, sits down next to her. And I listen in on the conversation obviously because I'm pretending to read, it was a very clever, I read the same page for hours, I was listening but pretending to read.

And, I realised that it's not her dad or anything, it's Ricky Gervais. And I'm thinking, brilliant, if she's the kind of girl who's just gonna start talking to someone, you know, on a platform, on a train, brilliant, I'm gonna be in here. Cos he was only going one stop, so I'm thinking, what's the worst that can happen? He'll nick off, you know, I'll get chatting to her, you know and who knows, join the club, the ... foot high club.

And, so I'm excited, you know I'm listening in. And, they're talking and it turns out that she's a kind of graduate, just finished university, or she's just coming to her finals or something. And they're chatting away you know and, I think she was gonna study Cinematography or something like that, and she was thinking about doing her project on Ricky's most recent sitcom, 'After Life'.

So, she was asking him you know, by way of conversation, she was asking him what he knew about 'After Life' you know. And he was fumbling for some, his vague knowledge of it that he had in his life.

But I'm just sat there thinking "yeah come on love, in any given 'After Life' episode, the protagonist will continue to use his dead wife to justify his irresponsible and nihilistic behaviour and after a brief period of recycled material, philosophical soundbites and five to ten gratuitous uses of the word 'cunt', emerge the same character that he was in the start of the episode". If that is not gonna get a woman sweaty down below, then nothing is.

So at that point i knew i was just biding my time. I thought I'm just going to go in for the kill any minute. So anyway, it comes to Ricky's stop right, he gets out. I'm thinking this is a piece of cake. And he gets off and off he goes, he walks off. And I'm thinking brilliant, and I thought I'll wait, you know I'll wait until the train's pulled away, I'm not going to leap in straight away.

And, he comes back on the carriage. I'm thinking hang on a minute. He goes "Listen, do you mind if a give you my twitter address?". "If you want to ask me more stuff on 'After Life', tweet me". I'm thinking "come on you loser get off now, save your face. Please. Before it gets too embarassing". She ACCEPTS the twitter address because she obviously doesn't want to hurt his feelings or whatever, I'm thinking fair enough, she's a good woman, I'm liking her, I'm thinking that's my kind of girl. So anyway, he gets off.

I'm sat there and the train pulls away, I'm thinking, I'll wait a few minutes, you know just give her some time. Her phone rings. It's her friend on the phone, and, she starts talking. And I was listening in, and she was going, "Yeah just met Ricky Gervais on the train". I'm thinking, "Yeah that's true enough." She goes, "Yeah he was a good looking guy". I thought, "You're havin' a laugh, love." To be honest, because I was looking at him, and she said to her friend, "He looks a bit like football player David Beckham". I thought, "Well, you should be so lucky, frankly", cos I saw him. He had awful facial hair if that's what makes him look like David Beckham, terrible little beard, it was laughable. And then she goes, "Yeah I met him we got chatting about 'After Life'" and she was going, "It's not often that you watch something you know, generally in life that's you know, kind of thoughtful, and intelligent, and funny". And I thought to myself, "I'm not even going to waste my time with you, love."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 16, 2022, 08:03:36 AM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 09:22:29 PMNothing will ever beat 'Fix You' in Derek for such a painfully obvious and trite choice of song. And so fucking lazy.

I can't find it now, but there used to be a video floating around of behind the scenes stuff for extras, with him and Steve in a hotel room trying to book Tom Cruise.
They're not getting anywhere with the phone calls they're making, and they start to joke about how it's like watching a documentary about a sad, celebrity obsessed fantasist. Gervais pulls his Derek face, and then makes a joke about how there'd be footage of him walking to the shops while Coldplay is heard in the background.

I mean, we all know the origin of Derek was him mocking disabled people, but even the cliches he uses seriously now were originally jokes too
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 16, 2022, 08:11:45 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 16, 2022, 08:03:36 AMI can't find it now, but there used to be a video floating around of behind the scenes stuff for extras, with him and Steve in a hotel room trying to book Tom Cruise.
They're not getting anywhere with the phone calls they're making, and they start to joke about how it's like watching a documentary about a sad, celebrity obsessed fantasist. Gervais pulls his Derek face, and then makes a joke about how there'd be footage of him walking to the shops while Coldplay is heard in the background.

I mean, we all know the origin of Derek was him mocking disabled people, but even the cliches he uses seriously now were originally jokes too

https://youtu.be/jHdTve2PpeI
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 16, 2022, 08:30:30 AM
5 pages in 48 hours for a whole new season of Afterlife. Derke days presumed long gone 
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 16, 2022, 08:35:10 AM
Can we do three pages trying to work out what the fuck the tennis episode was about?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on January 16, 2022, 08:46:50 AM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 16, 2022, 08:11:45 AMhttps://youtu.be/jHdTve2PpeI

For your own sakes, skip to 9min.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 16, 2022, 08:59:53 AM
I'm going to leave this here, in case anyone wants to take one for the team (fucked if I'm going to listen to it myself): https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0013m7v

QuoteRicky Gervais shares with us the music he loves, what these songs mean to him and why he included his favourite songs within his show, After Life. Ricky, a much loved and hugely successful writer, actor, comedian, stand up & animal rights campaigner chooses wonderful music from as far back as his first LP all the way through the music he listens to now, which includes David Bowie, Jackson Browne, Radiohead, Elton John & Nick Cave. An hour of beautiful music and companionship with Ricky.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 16, 2022, 03:26:37 PM
Apparently Ricky stopping this after 18 episodes lest the quality be watered down if he made any more lol. I love the sycophantic DJ. I think this is the best - Yes Ricky you are the best as is this.

"If you water it down you'll probably get it wrong" (Fuck me, imagine the watered down version of this. Also implicit in this statement is that he must have got it right)

"I think this is about the best ending it could have had, uh, everyone will be the judge of that" - (Also you judged Ricky, you just did it there, you judged it as the best. Ricky once again enforces the idea this is the best ending, no ending could be better)

"I'll probably have to explain it to a few people" - (Too right Ricky, your mouth breather audience for one)

"It's hard to make mediocre telly" - (He admitted it!! Could have gone the whole hog and said shite telly but I'll take mediocre. Not really, what Ricky is saying here is After Life is amazing telly, but even if it wasn't, even if it was mediocre, that still takes a lot of time and effort)


Cheers Rick. He's a psychoanalyst's dream. So much to unpack.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 16, 2022, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: olliebean on January 16, 2022, 08:59:53 AMI'm going to leave this here, in case anyone wants to take one for the team (fucked if I'm going to listen to it myself): https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0013m7v


It's all so populist as well, good taste but nothing excitingly unfamiliar or obscure or imaginative, or even just funny. Not like Charlie Brooker picking some video game music and Denim's The New Potatoes on Desert Island Discs. No songs which are guilty pleasures, or plain terrible but which bring back good memories. It all seems so impersonal.

I saw a copy of the Breaking Bad soundtrack vinyl boxset on sale for £110 the other week. Wasn't tempted but I'm sure it's a good listen with some interesting selections. I wouldn't be surprised if Gervais puts out an After Life compilation, full of stuff everyone buying it already owns, although that won't put them off.

(would a CaB Desert Island Discs/My Life In A Mixtape thread be a good idea or just a bit narcissistic?)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 16, 2022, 04:32:34 PM
Bravo @RickyGervais and gang. All great things come to an end - #Afterlife3 made me #LOL and weep, again, a glorious end to this charming life and death opus taking awkward comic tragedy of #TheOffice and #Extras to a whole new level. Don't miss it now on @netflix.

Just finished the last episode of #AfterLife3 and without doubt the best, saddest and most inspirational 30 mins of TV  I've watched. The scenes with the kids with cancer 😢. "Kindness, making other people feel good. That's the real superpower". Thankyou @RickyGervais Genius.

Let's all share our #uglycry faces of #AfterLife @AfterLife_Fans @RickyGervais #AfterLife3 #UglyCryFacesOfAfterLife https://t.co/snU2h8qtP6

(Some of them are as well and Jesus fucking Christ...people are odd)

Just finished #AfterLife3 and feeling a ton of emotions: sadness, frustration, compassion, hopefulness and joy. I'm basically experiencing the perplexities of life itself - and this 3rd season has made me feel so very grateful that I'm alive to do so. Thank you, @RickyGervais 🙏 https://t.co/Jv587oe2QV

#AfterLife3 is perfect! @RickyGervais has signed off his masterpiece with a stunning final chapter that embraces the future and walks the bumpy road of healing & living with grief. A celebration of love, being human, cape-less heroes & the healing superpower of doing good things

"I hope that was his c@ck u stupid c&nt" - @RickyGervais has this insane ability to make you laugh & cry at the exact same moment. It's artistry & cruelty  thru comedy & tragedy. I'm here for #AfterLife3 but it's not going to be pretty. Give him all the Emmy's while I #uglycry

Made the mistake of looking at Gervais' Twitter. I swear some of these people have to be taking the piss.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 16, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
Anyone using #LOL has to be taking the piss
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lauraxsynthesis on January 16, 2022, 05:25:04 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 15, 2022, 12:16:13 AMRicky?

Hah! Busted!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: shlug on January 16, 2022, 05:55:36 PM
Did anyone else catch that scene in episode 5 with the camp agent character suggesting the actor lad acts as someone mentally retarded for a role and is derided for suggesting something so offensive?

Is this Ricky retconning Derke?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 16, 2022, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 15, 2022, 10:39:35 PMhe seems convinced he's some kind of modern day Copernicus/Aristotle

Like Copper-Knickers, I'm sure he thinks the earth revolves around the Sun - only he places the latter as shining from his own rear-end.  It wouldn't surprise me, either, to know that like Aristotle (Aristotle), he's a bugger with a bottle.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 16, 2022, 06:12:28 PM
I haven't cried this hard since I was stabbed in the face with a frozen onion. Richie the Vase has done it again.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: undeliberated on January 16, 2022, 07:08:12 PM
Quote from: phes on January 16, 2022, 08:30:30 AM5 pages in 48 hours for a whole new season of Afterlife. Derke days presumed long gone 

Forget it phes: it's Glinnertown.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 16, 2022, 07:52:27 PM
Is this the final series then? Does he die and manage to prank Kerry Godliman in heaven NOT HEAVEN?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 16, 2022, 07:54:18 PM
The analogy of life being like a fairground ride was shit - you don't have to wait for one person to die in order for another to be born. I imagine if he had taken any advice on the script they would have said: "they'll lap up this trite and unoriginal bit about life being like a ride but this next bit is shit and doesn't make sense as there isn't a finite number of places on earth like there are seats on a ride".

Reading the eager tweet (?) about having to explain the ending to people: I can only think that's why he has Tony Way's look quizzically at his camera as Gervais waddles across the field, slowly fading out. There are two readings - either no one lives forever, or Tony is going home to smash his dog's head in with a hammer before not taking enough pills before either hanging himself or not taking enough pills and then hanging himself when he returns from hospital.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 16, 2022, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 16, 2022, 07:54:18 PMThe analogy of life being like a fairground ride was shit

The only other person I've heard it from is Ronan Keating in Life is a Rollercoaster - so enough said!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 16, 2022, 09:00:53 PM
I have a feeling he might have adapted Bill Hicks' bit. But then I remember that Gervais is very weird in not seeming to have any influences (that he is conscious of) so yea, Rollercoaster was probably just on the radio when he got to that bit in the first/final draft.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 16, 2022, 09:10:10 PM
Life is a Rollercoast, baby; just got to ride it!

- The gospel of saint Ricky to the romans morons.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 16, 2022, 10:01:29 PM
Gregg Alexander from The New Radicals wrote that song, credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chip on January 16, 2022, 10:21:02 PM
One of the episodes finished and I was surprised when it took me back to the main Netflix screen. Nothing of consequence has happened in these episodes.

Its lack of depth and quality is astonishing. Just obnoxious. Stultifyingly bad. Would watch again.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 16, 2022, 10:46:27 PM
I had something similar. Was watching the episode and it was going on a while and I thought it was a brave choice from Gervais to have the dog eat him, but then I realised it had switched over to Gerald's Game.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 17, 2022, 01:36:51 AM
would be funny if he did a crossover where Derek and Tony met in split-screen and understood they are Kind and Cunt, and they touch their fingers together and merge like the urRu and Skeksis at the end of The Dark (Derk?) Crystal and become Jesus.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 17, 2022, 10:11:04 AM
What if all Gervais characters come to life like League of Gentlemen Apocalypse?

Would be great having David Brent show Derek the dance that he does.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 17, 2022, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: JamesTC on January 17, 2022, 10:11:04 AMWhat if all Gervais characters come to life like League of Gentlemen Apocalypse?

Would be great having David Brent show Derek the dance that he does.

I find it jarring on the couple of occasions when Brent showed up on the US Office.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on January 17, 2022, 10:19:30 AM
I forced myself to sit through the season 1 episode where Tony tries smoking smack because accounts of the "Rocketman" sequence sounded funny.

One thing that struck me was how often Tony seems to care about what other people think, even though the notion of his not caring anymore is a central conceit of the show. He makes a right fuss over the junkie showing up at his house in front of his bro-in-law, more than I would have and I don't have the "superpower" of constant suicidal ideation.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Beep Cleep Chimney on January 17, 2022, 10:28:54 AM
After Life "Hope Is Everything" benches .
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJS5rXBXsAQiPSj?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://www.thecalmzone.net/afterlife/ (https://www.thecalmzone.net/afterlife/)

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 17, 2022, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: Ricky Gervais"After Life let people talk about grief, and it was so good to start the conversation."

I mean.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Bumlord on January 17, 2022, 11:36:43 AM
You can't really think this, Mr Gervais.

(https://i.imgur.com/YnFUQJGl.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 17, 2022, 11:37:07 AM
For someone who comes across as so asexual, he seems very obsessed with sex and how distasteful it is. There isn't any slut shaming as such, the attitude just seems like it's from the mind of a not very confident 14 year old boy (if my recollection of being a 14 year old boy is accurate - and it is). The whole "prozzie" sneering jarred. I am glad that Roisin Conaty didn't stay on in that role. I suppose she would have been an incumbrance when all you need to say is "prozzie" and mime some thrusting for the jokes to work.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 17, 2022, 11:37:35 AM
Yeah nobody was ever allowed to talk about grief before this show emerged stinking from Gervais' anus. I remember going to bereavement counselling and all the woman said to me was "Please stop talking about your grief". Thank goodness things are now changing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 17, 2022, 11:52:28 AM
Quote from: paruses on January 17, 2022, 11:37:07 AMFor someone who comes across as so asexual, he seems very obsessed with sex and how distasteful it is. There isn't any slut shaming as such, the attitude just seems like it's from the mind of a not very confident 14 year old boy (if my recollection of being a 14 year old boy is accurate - and it is). The whole "prozzie" sneering jarred. I am glad that Roisin Conaty didn't stay on in that role. I suppose she would have been an incumbrance when all you need to say is "prozzie" and mime some thrusting for the jokes to work.

I noticed that too when Tony interviews the swingers in season 3. They seemed like a nice couple, but like all the interview bits, there was a sense of sneering. I was sitting there thinking, "what's the problem? They seem like a lovely couple."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 12:09:13 PM
I had similar feelings about the breast milk rice pudding woman in series 1, a bit of a sense of "Urghhh, pregnancy and childbirth and women's bodies are a bit disgusting aren't they? Look at this disgusting freak, why is she proud when she should be ashamed of her disgusting secretions and vaginal yeast?". She seemed pretty harmless and nice and polite and it wasn't like she was forcing anyone to eat her wares (and Tony Way's character even seemed to enjoy them).

It just reminded me of that whole militant childfree thing and how so much of that seems to be misogynistic disgust at mothers and pregnant women, or 14-year-old Redditors ranting about how gross women's bodies are. Obviously we all know Gervais is childfree by choice but it seemed so adolescent, he actually gags at several points and looks like he might pass out:


How would someone this sneery and misanthropic ever be considered for a job as a human interest journalist? Why would they even apply for such a job? Again, it's just lazy writing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Bumlord on January 17, 2022, 12:18:29 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 12:09:13 PMI had similar feelings about the breast milk rice pudding woman in series 1, a bit of a sense of "Urghhh, pregnancy and childbirth and women's bodies are a bit disgusting aren't they? Look at this disgusting freak, why is she proud when she should be ashamed of her disgusting secretions and vaginal yeast?". She seemed pretty harmless and nice and polite and it wasn't like she was forcing anyone to eat her wares (and Tony Way's character even seemed to enjoy them).


He's been stewing on that one for years. Or is just lazy.

https://youtu.be/GVobFX-A1KU (https://youtu.be/GVobFX-A1KU)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 12:20:43 PM
Quote from: The Bumlord on January 17, 2022, 12:18:29 PMHe's been stewing on that one for years. Or is just lazy.

https://youtu.be/GVobFX-A1KU (https://youtu.be/GVobFX-A1KU)

There's a big difference between bringing someone a gift of breast milk rice pudding with a bit of social pressure to eat it (fair enough, that is a bit arrogant) and someone making them on request for people who want to eat them.

Also I'm not sure bread made with C. albicans would even rise. Again, for someone who's supposed to be well into science Gervais is surprisingly uncurious and can't be bothered to do any actual research.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 17, 2022, 12:21:28 PM
Removed as already mentioned above.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 12:30:59 PM
Has he ordered his fans to dogpile onto Hugo Rifkind for his negative review of season 3 in The Times, the way he did with Camilla Long and her negative review of season 1 in The Times?

https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/1106850237258350594 (check out those 12 whole replies, none of them abusive)

https://twitter.com/camillalong/status/1107204066877284352?lang=en

I remember a few people accusing her of being like the rice pudding breastmilk woman and probably just an offended snowflake. Definitely not misogynistic, no.

Also I remember this, ranting about an unnamed female journalist making him look bad:

https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1107218520906088448

...while he was eerily silent on that Guardian piece by Simon Hattenstone.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 17, 2022, 12:34:20 PM
The breast milk rice pudding is a Gervaisian classic that goes back about 20 years. I remember him mentioning it on room 101 and the xfm radio show. Can't believe he's still recycling that one.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mjwilson on January 17, 2022, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 12:30:59 PMHas he ordered his fans to dogpile onto Hugo Rifkind for his negative review of season 3 in The Times

Honestly I don't think he would need to.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 17, 2022, 12:53:02 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 17, 2022, 12:34:20 PMThe breast milk rice pudding is a Gervaisian classic that goes back about 20 years. I remember him mentioning it on room 101 and the xfm radio show. Can't believe he's still recycling that one.

Yea - even at the time when I was excited Gervais was on a programme I thought that was unbelievable shit.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 17, 2022, 12:53:34 PM
A reply to that Camilla Long tweet:

QuoteJust cancelled my subscription to the Sunday times. Shocking journalism. Feel free to slag off someone you don't like, even tho you are wrong I may add but don't disenfranchise and alienate his fans and tour readers. You know, the ones who pay your wage.

Can you imagine being that precious about something you like?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 17, 2022, 12:53:45 PM
Quote from: Beep Cleep Chimney on January 17, 2022, 10:28:54 AMAfter Life "Hope Is Everything" benches .
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJS5rXBXsAQiPSj?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://www.thecalmzone.net/afterlife/ (https://www.thecalmzone.net/afterlife/)


i hope it was his cock you cunt
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 17, 2022, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 12:09:13 PMI had similar feelings about the breast milk rice pudding woman in series 1, a bit of a sense of "Urghhh, pregnancy and childbirth and women's bodies are a bit disgusting aren't they? Look at this disgusting freak, why is she proud when she should be ashamed of her disgusting secretions and vaginal yeast?"

Gervais finds humans and human bodies in general to be disgusting and annoying. He rants and screams about how he hates seeing and hearing people eat, people who are rude, people making annoying noises, fat people, and lazy people.
At times he acknowledges he is some of these things too, or even brags about it, but he never seems to connect the two and see the hypocrisy.

Agree with the other posters who said Gervais seems kind of sexless or asexual. I'm not saying he is, but he really comes  across that way to me. I recall him even saying in an interview him and Jane don't really do romantic things or celebrate things other couples might. I don't really know what point I'm making here - nothing wrong with it if he is or isn't asexual - but its interesting other people, not just me, get that vibe.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 17, 2022, 12:57:30 PM
Gonna pop to the mental health bench later to shout at children that they're tubby little cunts and that if I was a paedo I wouldn't even fuck them.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Better Midlands on January 17, 2022, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 17, 2022, 12:56:38 PMAgree with the other posters who said Gervais seems kind of sexless or asexual.

Ricky GervACE.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 17, 2022, 01:02:55 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 17, 2022, 12:57:30 PMGonna pop to the mental health bench later to shout at children that they're tubby little cunts and that if I was a paedo I wouldn't even fuck them.

And everybody walking past will be thinking "BritishHobo is such a kind man. He is so kind with his kindness".
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 17, 2022, 01:04:16 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 17, 2022, 12:53:02 PMYea - even at the time when I was excited Gervais was on a programme I thought that was unbelievable shit.

I'm trying to work out if I would be annoyed about something like that so long after it happened, but then also there's the fact that this didn't even happen to Gervais, it was a friend of his that got offered the rice pudding. He's still annoyed on someone else's behalf that this friend of his got offered a breast milk rice pudding about 20 years ago.

Fascinating man.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 17, 2022, 01:08:39 PM
Sir Ricky Gervais
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 17, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
(https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.499518885.1931/flat,750x1000,075,f.u1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 01:14:45 PM
Quote from: phes on January 17, 2022, 01:08:39 PMSir Ricky Gervais

Honoured by the Queen for services to Kindness
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 01:22:07 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 17, 2022, 12:56:38 PMGervais finds humans and human bodies in general to be disgusting and annoying. He rants and screams about how he hates seeing and hearing people eat, people who are rude, people making annoying noises, fat people, and lazy people.
At times he acknowledges he is some of these things too, or even brags about it, but he never seems to connect the two and see the hypocrisy.

Again, it's weird that someone supposedly fascinated by science and nature is so grossed out by bodily functions. Admittedly I am writing this as a morbid nerd who loves pathology museums and works with human tissue for a living, but to be that grossed out by something as mundane as breast feeding? Does he freak out every time he needs to go for a piss? Does the sound of his own eating as it reverberates through his head drive him up the wall? Personally I hate sniffing so I'm with him on that one but the rest seems like such ridiculously uptight and curmudgeonly behaviour.

Bit bemused by the whole transgender thing too isn't he? I wonder if he's a bit like Donald Trump and just feels a bit of fear and distaste over all things bodily and medical.

QuoteAgree with the other posters who said Gervais seems kind of sexless or asexual. I'm not saying he is, but he really comes  across that way to me. I recall him even saying in an interview him and Jane don't really do romantic things or celebrate things other couples might. I don't really know what point I'm making here - nothing wrong with it if he is or isn't asexual - but its interesting other people, not just me, get that vibe.

I'm not sure I see that myself but I can definitely see why he doesn't want kids now. He'd be disgusted by the whole process of pregnancy and childbirth and breastfeeding, and he'd probably be sick if he tried to change a nappy.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on January 17, 2022, 01:35:33 PM
What if we kissed on the hope is everything bench 😳🙈
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 01:38:21 PM
Quote from: The Mollusk on January 17, 2022, 01:35:33 PMWhat if we kissed on the hope is everything bench 😳🙈

Ewww gross
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 17, 2022, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 17, 2022, 01:22:07 PMfascinated by science and nature

sticking things up his dogs bum

 
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: poodlefaker on January 17, 2022, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 17, 2022, 01:04:16 PMI'm trying to work out if I would be annoyed about something like that so long after it happened, but then also there's the fact that this didn't even happen to Gervais, it was a friend of his that got offered the rice pudding. He's still annoyed on someone else's behalf that this friend of his got offered a breast milk rice pudding about 20 years ago.

Fascinating man.

More likely all made up anyway. He probably read about it somewhere.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on January 17, 2022, 02:09:57 PM
After Life benches and Captain Tom benches fighting up and down the country.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 17, 2022, 02:52:06 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 17, 2022, 01:04:16 PMI'm trying to work out if I would be annoyed about something like that so long after it happened, but then also there's the fact that this didn't even happen to Gervais, it was a friend of his that got offered the rice pudding. He's still annoyed on someone else's behalf that this friend of his got offered a breast milk rice pudding about 20 years ago.

Fascinating man.

I don't think he's annoyed necessarily, just devoid of other ideas.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bad Ambassador on January 17, 2022, 03:06:05 PM
Quote from: phes on January 17, 2022, 01:41:06 PMsticking things up his dogs bum

At least Eric Gill made some nice sculptures.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 17, 2022, 05:00:56 PM
Now he's managed to end the taboo about discussing grief I hope his next show will finally end the stigma of people, especially men, talking about their mental health. If anyone can do it Ricky can.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 17, 2022, 09:04:19 PM
Next show will be about a kind dwarf working in a care home who won't stop talking about his dead wife.

Ricky will play the dwarf, he will achieve this by kneeling down with shoes on his knees.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 17, 2022, 09:08:04 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 17, 2022, 09:04:19 PMNext show will be about a kind dwarf working in a care home who won't stop talking about his dead wife.

Big comedy setpiece - he sits in a pie and/or falls in a pond.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 17, 2022, 09:23:32 PM
Shorter Life
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: peanutbutter on January 17, 2022, 10:04:10 PM
40 on Metacritic so far, Derek got 64
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chip on January 17, 2022, 10:09:48 PM
He's used Wigan as a comedy punchline to two shitey jokes in this series now. Another lazy 'funny' go-to
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Beep Cleep Chimney on January 17, 2022, 10:36:13 PM
Was listening to a TV review podcast earlier and Gervais was a guest on there (with Tony Way) talking to his friend/sycophant Boyd Hilton about this latest series.

The interview goes on for about half an hour, but I'd urge you to listen to it as it's really something.

Hilton has his tongue firmly up Gervais' arse throughout, telling him how hilarious/moving the show is and how every aspect of the show is fantastic, and the Rickster explains his creative process, in particular the filming of the iconic scene where he blows raspberries onto Tony Way's character's belly.

Also reveals that one of his favourite lines is when the character of Ratty (of Ratty and The Nonce) says "What have you come as? Santa's little cunt?"

Spotify link here.  Interview starts at 29m30s.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Qh08X1rrmUzxINGTDgi1y?si=ef83b9c8f913479a (https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Qh08X1rrmUzxINGTDgi1y?si=ef83b9c8f913479a)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on January 17, 2022, 11:42:59 PM
On the topic of cringeworthy interviews, here's a nice clip I saw earlier of the Rickster changing the subject when called out on the hypocrisy inherent in his comedy sticking it to the 1%:

ITV News | Ricky Gervais reacts to Downing Street's party scandal as he talks Afterlife final series (https://youtu.be/0lniJPldk8M?t=61)

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 18, 2022, 01:10:14 AM
"I try and not lecture people."

That's all he does, all the time. Fair play to Nina Nannar for attempting to confront his hypocrisy, especially in  the middle of an otherwise cosy puff piece, but Gervais is incapable of owning up to his contradictions. That would require too much intellectual effort. He can never be wrong about anything.

This is a man who once co-created a character, David Brent, who was a blatant manifestation of his own insecurities, foibles and failings. But that was a very long time ago, when he was still somewhat capable of honest self-analysis.

Mind you, even at the time, he bristled whenever interviewers asked him if Brent was a semi-autobiographical creation. The very idea annoyed him. He should've been proud of the fact that he'd looked inwards to write and perform a three-dimensional character. Because that's what great artists do, isn't it Ricky? The sort of great artist you see yourself as?

He's such a strange man.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DJ Bob Hoskins on January 18, 2022, 02:14:42 AM
Quote from: Ricky Gervais"I try and not lecture people."

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/80/86/cf808676aee0924c5f7a23602c7ec7aa.gif)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 18, 2022, 02:30:25 AM
Also, it's 'to' not 'and'. But even that sounds clumsy. A more eloquent way of phrasing his disingenuous point would be: "I don't try to lecture people."

Hire a script-editor, Ricky.


Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on January 18, 2022, 07:37:18 AM
I don't try to lecture people, it just falls out of me involuntarily since I have literally no other way of communicating my thoughts.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 18, 2022, 10:12:10 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on January 16, 2022, 08:25:54 PMThe only other person I've heard it from is Ronan Keating in Life is a Rollercoaster - so enough said!

Actually, I remember in the 70s a singer called Barry Biggs did a reggae-type song called 'Life is a Three-Ring Circus,' which is basically the same sentiment.  In that analogy, Gervais is like PT Barnum, unashamedly attracting viewers with freakshows - as is anyone who interviews Gervais for that matter.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Captain Z on January 18, 2022, 10:33:45 AM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 18, 2022, 02:30:25 AMAlso, it's 'to' not 'and'. But even that sounds clumsy. A more eloquent way of phrasing his disingenuous point would be: "I don't try to lecture people."

Hire a script-editor, Ricky.

Lionel Hutz gets out his pen:

"I don't try, and lecture people"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: rue the polywhirl on January 18, 2022, 07:06:56 PM
Got to be honest, am enjoying current series. Good comfort viewing. Comfort in satisfying formulaic rubbishness I guess but not quite to the point of hate-viewing  Up to episode 4 atm. Best bet for a Diane Morgan fix because Mandy manages to be somehow even worse. Tim Key also very good in his little spot.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chip on January 18, 2022, 07:24:23 PM
I will admit that by the end their expletive-filled rampage through the fete, but not the finale fete I think(? I genuinely can't recall), I did crack a smile at the antics of fan favourites Ratty and The Nonce.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wrec on January 19, 2022, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 18, 2022, 01:10:14 AMMind you, even at the time, he bristled whenever interviewers asked him if Brent was a semi-autobiographical creation. The very idea annoyed him. He should've been proud of the fact that he'd looked inwards to write and perform a three-dimensional character.

I remember Steve Coogan being irritated that people thought he was oblivious to his occasional similarities to Partridge. And there's a lot less distance between Gervais and Brent.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bronzy on January 19, 2022, 12:50:55 AM
I don't like lecturing people, oh no

I love it
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 19, 2022, 12:56:05 AM
The key difference with Brent and Gervais is that Brent was desperate for people to like him, whereas Gervais's opinion of himself is so high I think he just assumes they do.

Quote from: chip on January 18, 2022, 07:24:23 PMI will admit that by the end their expletive-filled rampage through the fete, but not the finale fete I think(? I genuinely can't recall), I did crack a smile at the antics of fan favourites Ratty and The Nonce.

Everything gervais does now is just a worse version of his old material. Ratty and the nonce is just like Oggy and Jimmy the Perv mixed with a bit of finchy. But those characters all seemed pretty realistic.

I will admit as much as gervais annoys me, I do think he, as Limmy would put it, "Has the funnybone" and is capable of being amusing. It's just harder to ignore the narcissism and bullying the more you get to know his work.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on January 19, 2022, 01:08:37 AM
I've not watched this and have no intention to but from what I've read and seen it seems like an emotional training aid for psychopaths.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 19, 2022, 01:16:01 AM
Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on January 19, 2022, 01:08:37 AMI've not watched this and have no intention to but from what I've read and seen it seems like an emotional training aid for psychopaths.

Don't give him ideas!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Spongo McChongo on January 19, 2022, 07:15:31 AM
Depressing boring shite.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chip on January 19, 2022, 08:37:26 AM
I think most people's perception of Gervais and his comedy was cemented back in the early 00s, and hasn't been able to evolve into anything else since. The Chubby Funster has his tropes, such as the laugh, doing that thing where he starts sentences but doesn't finish them ("that's.... "), or just using words like 'mental' or whatever. Like that laugh may be grating, but hearing it instantly takes me back to a simpler comedy landscape, which he was undoubtedly one of the fat little lords of.

So it's ultimately even more insane that this latest effort (not to mention Derek before it) doesn't even feature any of those, and they still lap it up. They're not mainlining any pure Gervais. The One Trick Pony isn't even doing his Trick!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phosphoresce on January 19, 2022, 12:27:53 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 18, 2022, 01:10:14 AMMind you, even at the time, he bristled whenever interviewers asked him if Brent was a semi-autobiographical creation. The very idea annoyed him. He should've been proud of the fact that he'd looked inwards to write and perform a three-dimensional character. Because that's what great artists do, isn't it Ricky? The sort of great artist you see yourself as?
He's such a strange man

Yes, compare Steve Coogan with Alan. In interviews Coogan often says the character is indeed a reflection and artistic exaggeration of some of his most embarrassing traits. Whereas with Brent, Gervais is playing this "loser" he looks down on and sees as an object of pity (especially in the horrible Brent film).
 
As others have said, the After Life character being a human interest writer is so weird. Instead of the show finding humour and humanity in people that might be dismissed as oddballs, it's a chance for Gervais/Tony to sneer. It's a strange attitude for a writer to have to his own characters.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 19, 2022, 04:44:24 PM
I just accidentally caught a clip from Derek (the one where Pilkington shouts at a woman for wanting her dead mum's possessions), and at the end the camera pans to Gervais clenching and unclenching his jaw. It blew me away all over again, maybe even moreso given the distance from it now. How on EARTH did he get away with that performance?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 19, 2022, 05:33:36 PM
Quote from: Spongo McChongo on January 19, 2022, 07:15:31 AMDepressing boring shite.

I watched the whole thing in one go the other night and that's my opinion too. It's not consistently terrible, just very average and boring with the odd "I hope it was his cock you cunt" sprinkled here and there to snap you out of your stupor at how bad it is. Dull sets and costume. Average dialogue. Not that many jokes and threadbare characters. The odd bit of paper thin philosophy and by god is it repetitive. Still on the laptop with the dead wife after three series!! Come on Rick. Like Karl describing an awards ceremony "Just the same thing over and over".

He used the same shot set ups over and over again. The same establishing shots. The same handful of sets/locations. He did seem to try and address a couple of issues, one being the static camera work, there seemed to be some boom work going on with the camera sweeping up and to the side. Another was the one dimensional support characters, Ricky amped that up a bit to 1.5 sided characters. An improvement but not much of one.

In the XFM days Gervais had a three word catchprase that would bookend a segment and signal he had heard enough rubbish for the moment, "Play a record". He's retooled that slightly for this series when he has heard enough from the kooky residents of Tambury and wants to leave, "Take a picture".

I thought is was a bit much that he went to the lengths of disappearing off the face of the earth just to avoid having to visit that cancer kid every day. That was a bit of a poor show Rickster.

Painfully average 3.5/10 for me Clive.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 19, 2022, 05:59:44 PM
Talking of repeating material, his teary "Definitely." when cancer kid asked if he believed in heaven was just a repeat of the whole thing in The Invention of Lying where he lies to his dying mum to comfort her by telling her there's a heaven.

The trailer sort of made it seem that Notorious Atheist Ricky Gervais might be doing something a little more nuanced regarding religion (him slagging off Cancer Wife's beliefs, and then blubbering about it after she's gone), but it just ended up being reheated material from over a decade ago.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 19, 2022, 06:13:56 PM
Quote from: chip on January 19, 2022, 08:37:26 AMThe Chubby Funster has his tropes, such as the laugh, doing that thing where he starts sentences but doesn't finish them ("that's.... "), or just using words like 'mental' or whatever. Like that laugh may be grating, but hearing it instantly takes me back to a simpler comedy landscape, which he was undoubtedly one of the fat little lords of.

So it's ultimately even more insane that this latest effort (not to mention Derek before it) doesn't even feature any of those, and they still lap it up. They're not mainlining any pure Gervais. The One Trick Pony isn't even doing his Trick!

Good observation, and now you mention it he isn't even doing The Chubby Funster trope anymore. Now he's The Man In Better Shape who gets to make other people his chubby funsters.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 19, 2022, 11:41:13 PM
So is he laughing at everyone phoning in rehashed tripe, or is this an earnest effort on his part to deliver a masterpiece? Is he clever enough to get tv made, but not talented enough to make something truly great?

I've never seen him act as well as Merchant did in Four Lives either. Far less dimensional in his abilities.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 20, 2022, 08:28:10 AM
I think Derek is the only thing in which I've seen him not essentially playing himself.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on January 20, 2022, 08:39:39 AM
Quote from: olliebean on January 20, 2022, 08:28:10 AMI think Derek is the only thing in which I've seen him not essentially playing himself.

Even then, he lapses into himself on occasion.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 20, 2022, 09:58:49 AM
Quote from: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on January 20, 2022, 08:39:39 AMEven then, he lapses into himself on occasion.

It also strangely goes the other way too. I've only watched the first episode of this new After Life (it was shite) but I noticed Gervais lapses into that weird breathless staccato Derek voice a few times.

In particular, that terrible opening bit about Batman and Spiderman was delivered exactly like a Derek nursing home speech. All it was missing was a jutting jaw and fringe swipe at the end.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: petril on January 20, 2022, 10:36:42 AM
is it that he's aware of it? or does he genuinely believe he's doing something good?

probably thinks he's entertaining absolutely everyone third
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 11:32:45 AM
I kept thinking that someone would smack or punch Tony in season 3. And I thought that was going to part of the arc. Because all the people he insulted or called a cunt in seasons 1 and 2 were strawmen boogiemen, there was the shield that, "Yes, Tony's horrible, but THEY'RE WORSE. So they deserve it!"

None of the people Tony insulted in season 3 deserved it, least of all his brother-in-law. I kept waiting for the moment when the brother-in-law would punch Tony in the face, especially during the squash scenes.

Logically this works for both of their arcs. The brother-in-law constantly talks about how looked down upon he is and needs to stand up for himself and Tony realises his "superpower" is false.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neveragain on January 20, 2022, 11:44:18 AM
No... That would be interesting.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neveragain on January 20, 2022, 11:46:47 AM
I feel really sorry for Tom Basden. Gives a great performance with such a nothingy character.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 11:51:28 AM
Quote from: neveragain on January 20, 2022, 11:46:47 AMI feel really sorry for Tom Basden. Gives a great performance with such a nothingy character.

He really is very good, and was really good in Plebs. If they remake Hitch-Hiker's Guide, he'd make a good Arthur Dent.

A good comparison to After Life would be Loudermilk, where the lead character has a similar, "fuck it all, I tell it like it is, me," attitude. The difference is, Loudermilk gets called out on his shit ALL THE TIME and it fucks up every good relationship he has going.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 20, 2022, 11:51:38 AM
If you threw a brick or a very lightweight potted cactus through the rear window of a Range Rover* - would you expect that owner to ring where you work and get your boss to sort it out? Or would you expect a visit from the police and a few hours spent in the custody suite before being bailed to appear?

The research and believability really is on the level of the self published author he mocks. Given his status and the way this has been cobbled together for 3 series it's self publishing by any other name. 


* I'm overlooking Tony's dad-bod lapsed athlete status, aren't I?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 20, 2022, 11:58:56 AM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 11:51:28 AMHe really is very good, and was really good in Plebs. If they remake Hitch-Hiker's Guide, he'd make a good Arthur Dent.

A good comparison to After Life would be Loudermilk, where the lead character has a similar, "fuck it all, I tell it like it is, me," attitude. The difference is, Loudermilk gets called out on his shit ALL THE TIME and it fucks up every good relationship he has going.

I thought Tom Basden did really well with the material. I found him funny. Have been listening to the Tim Key's Late Night Poetry thing off Fourble and it's a similar performance - low key, put upon, exasperated, and very funny for it.

I really liked Loudermilk. Have only seen the first series when it popped up on Prime but that's a great comparison. Different premise but that's how you do a No Fuck's Given character - you show that it might seem to work for you and get you through the day, but it's just destructive anger and it affects and influences the real people around you.  I seem to remember he also rightly gets punched a few times.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 20, 2022, 12:39:51 PM
Yeah that's just it. While it doesn't help that the execution is often lazy and unfunny, the real problem with After Life is that the entire premise is built on such rotten foundations. None of the supporting character dynamics work because the absurd fantasy character of moody-loner-with-(supposed)-heart-of-gold Tony being in almost every scene makes them hollow.

I dimly remember a bit from the first series where Basden is chatting with Tony Way or Diane Morgan in his office, and suddenly thinking "oh this would work." It might not be an amazing show, but a newspaper-based sitcom with those characters and actors would be watchable and enjoyable.

And then it cuts to Gervais clobbering a chav with a tin of dog food or coaxing a junkie to kill himself or verbally abusing a child or being an arsehole to Ashley Jensen for the fourteenth time, all with zero consequences and endorsement from everyone around him. And not in a comedy way either, in a sulking teenager thinking he's Dirty Harry way and dishing out "justice" way. Gervais is such an odd duck.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 20, 2022, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 20, 2022, 11:51:38 AMIf you threw a brick or a very lightweight potted cactus through the rear window of a Range Rover* - would you expect that owner to ring where you work and get your boss to sort it out? Or would you expect a visit from the police and a few hours spent in the custody suite before being bailed to appear?

I said it before, but if the thrower was a short overweight man in his 60s I expect the driver wouldn't bother with police and may exit the vehicle and resolve matters themselves.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 20, 2022, 01:17:30 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 19, 2022, 05:59:44 PMTalking of repeating material, his teary "Definitely." when cancer kid asked if he believed in heaven was just a repeat of the whole thing in The Invention of Lying where he lies to his dying mum to comfort her by telling her there's a heaven.

Did he actually write The Invention Of Lying or have any input into the script? I thought it was someone else but the premise does sound very Gervaisian.

Tried watching it once, lasted ten minutes before it pissed me off too much to continue.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 20, 2022, 01:27:24 PM
Quote from: olliebean on January 20, 2022, 08:28:10 AMI think Derek is the only thing in which I've seen him not essentially playing himself.

Only being able to play versions of one's self isn't necessarily a bad thing- it never did Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David any harm. I used to wonder if Gervais may have been able to do a Curb/Lead Balloon/Grandma's House-type show playing an exaggerated version of himself just after the original run of The Office, but reading this thread, and the comments about how he didn't like being compared to Brent even then, I now wonder if he would ever have been capable of such a thing even before his success went to his head. Tony is a version of himself who, unlike the semi-fictionalised Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld, never loses, never gets made a fool of, and always has the last laugh.

To make yet another Coogan comparison, both he and Rob Brydon were still able to laugh at themselves in The Trip. Imagine something like that show with Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington touring branches of Nando's or something... I'd like to think it would have been great but it would probably never have worked back in the day.

Having a limited range as an actor isn't necessarily a bad thing for a comic either. While the comedians who have proved to be good dramatic actors are too numerous to count, to the point where a comedian being good at drama is almost expected, there are a fair few who can perform comedy but can't act for toffee, and as they include Bob Mortimer and Peter Cook that's not a shameful club to be in. Doing what you're good at is a good idea whatever line of work you're in. What should Ricky be doing though? I can't imagine where he could go from here and be happy. He could be great if he had a co-writer to reign him in but I doubt he'd want to go back to that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on January 20, 2022, 01:33:01 PM
could always do another series of Ricky Gervais Meets, provided the guests were positively vetted and guaranteed to kiss his arse for an hour.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 20, 2022, 01:59:32 PM
Quote from: Rich Uncle Skeleton on January 20, 2022, 01:33:01 PMcould always do another series of Ricky Gervais Meets, provided the guests were positively vetted and guaranteed to kiss his arse for an hour.

And Garry Shandling is dead now so no chance of Rick being shown up again.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 20, 2022, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 20, 2022, 01:27:24 PMOnly being able to play versions of one's self isn't necessarily a bad thing- it never did Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David any harm. I used to wonder if Gervais may have been able to do a Curb/Lead Balloon/Grandma's House-type show playing an exaggerated version of himself just after the original run of The Office

Just had an idea for a Seinfeld clone called "Gervais". Starring Ricky Gervais as "Ricky", Ashley Jensen as an Elaine type character and Stephen Merchant as a Kramer type character. The show plays exactly the same as Seinfeld but with different characters. Written by Graham Linehan.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 20, 2022, 04:24:01 PM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 20, 2022, 03:19:07 PMJust had an idea for a Seinfeld clone called "Gervais". Starring Ricky Gervais as "Ricky", Ashley Jensen as an Elaine type character and Stephen Merchant as a Kramer type character. The show plays exactly the same as Seinfeld but with different characters. Written by Graham Linehan.

...of course, if Ricky had any self-awareness he'd be Costanza.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 20, 2022, 04:33:47 PM
I always found it very telling when they did Life's Too Short that there was absolutely no sense of fun about Gervais' portrayal of himself, no self-deprecation or anything. Quite the opposite, it was full of quite cringeworthy moments where the script just blew smoke up his arse, with no punchline. Clips of Gervais killing it at an awards gigs, or bits where he humourlessly showed off his awards, or other characters wondering aloud how he was so good at getting away with such dangerous, cutting-edge comedy. Every other celebrity played themselves as silly, or stupid, or rude, but he was the winner in every scene he was in. Very demonstrative.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 04:37:21 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 20, 2022, 04:33:47 PMI always found it very telling when they did Life's Too Short that there was absolutely no sense of fun about Gervais' portrayal of himself, no self-deprecation or anything. Quite the opposite, it was full of quite cringeworthy moments where the script just blew smoke up his arse, with no punchline. Clips of Gervais killing it at an awards gigs, or bits where he humourlessly showed off his awards, or other characters wondering aloud how he was so good at getting away with such dangerous, cutting-edge comedy. Every other celebrity played themselves as silly, or stupid, or rude, but he was the winner in every scene he was in. Very demonstrative.

I think it was at this point that Merchant quietly thought, "How do I shake this man off me?"

Much like Greg Sestero showing up to awards ceremonies with Tommy Wiseau, forcing a smile, thinking, "I wrote this book to get rid of this loser. How am I still attached to him? How did the adaptation become all about him... AGAIN!?"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on January 20, 2022, 05:03:49 PM
comparing After Life to Tommy Wiseau has always been the most accurate way of describing it, I thought.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on January 20, 2022, 05:56:11 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 11:32:45 AMI kept thinking that someone would smack or punch Tony in season 3. And I thought that was going to part of the arc. Because all the people he insulted or called a cunt in seasons 1 and 2 were strawmen boogiemen, there was the shield that, "Yes, Tony's horrible, but THEY'RE WORSE. So they deserve it!"

None of the people Tony insulted in season 3 deserved it, least of all his brother-in-law. I kept waiting for the moment when the brother-in-law would punch Tony in the face, especially during the squash scenes.

Logically this works for both of their arcs. The brother-in-law constantly talks about how looked down upon he is and needs to stand up for himself and Tony realises his "superpower" is false.
I thought this whilst watching a single episode of series 1, so I'd probably put my fist through the screen if I tried to make it through the whole run.

Does Tony Way's character ever point out that Gervais's character is lobbing stones around an extremely fragile glass house with all his fat-shaming? That stuff really annoyed me too. So glad this guy's wife died.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 20, 2022, 06:13:08 PM
In a moment of weakness I ended up watching the whole bloody thing.

Actually more interesting than S2 in the sense that it was so fucking bizarre.

He seems to have abandoned any rules of story telling to the point where it almost felt experimental. In a really shit way.

Easily the worst thing he has ever done. Hard to single out the most awful bits as it was just one long awful bit. Watching performers as good as Tim Key and Diane Morgan trying and almost succeeding in spite of Gervais' piss poor dialogue and paper thin characters was particularly sad.

What annoyed me most was the soundtrack. That's where the budget went. So many good songs wasted soundtracking material that doesn't deserve it.

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 20, 2022, 06:16:27 PM
I keep remembering bits that were so lazy and bad they had me howling with laughter.

The scene where Ashley Jensen's Nurse just bumps into an old flame for instance. How the fuck did that even make the first draft let alone end up being performed by actual people and then filmed and put on screen?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 20, 2022, 06:57:31 PM
Quote from: TheQueensboroBridge on January 20, 2022, 06:16:27 PMI keep remembering bits that were so lazy and bad they had me howling with laughter.

The scene where Ashley Jensen's Nurse just bumps into an old flame for instance. How the fuck did that even make the first draft let alone end up being performed by actual people and then filmed and put on screen?

His treatment of the nurse one is just terrible - just remembered how she was one rung worse than Beverley Allitt because she didn't find the lemon with eyes drawn on one of the funniest things ever. No matter that we see in yet more recorded footage that it was a big in-joke about things with faces on. But then at the end Kind Tony does release  her so the old flame can have a go on her. The nods of acceptance where Alpha Tony gives his blessing to Beta Flame is very funny. No matter that their entire relationship seemed to consist of him saying he was going for a round-shouldered waddle to the pub if she wanted to come along.

When his dead wife was alive he must have gone round like Lee Evans in that film where he records his every moment with a bodycam to insure against being falsely accused of a crime again.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 20, 2022, 06:57:31 PMWhen his dead wife was alive he must have gone round like Lee Evans in that film where he records his every moment with a bodycam to insure against being falsely accused of a crime again.

Award for the most obscure but well observed reference goes to you.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phosphoresce on January 20, 2022, 08:27:35 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 20, 2022, 01:27:24 PMTo make yet another Coogan comparison, both he and Rob Brydon were still able to laugh at themselves in The Trip. Imagine something like that show with Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington touring branches of Nando's or something... I'd like to think it would have been great but it would probably never have worked back in the day.

I think the Gervais version of that is in Life's Too Short: him and Merchant in their swish office like comedy Godfathers, giving sage advice to the great and good.

I imagine Gervais might be better suited to something like the Coogan situation with his current Alan writers. Coogan's role is largely performance, and one third writing (or something). There is an idea there in After Life – a narrative comedy about grief and depression. But it's unfortunately filtered through Gervais' fractured mind. Having co-writers, script editors etc. there to check his narcissism and self-indulgence might have salvaged it. Though yeah, begging the question there.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 20, 2022, 08:46:09 PM
My favourite thing about afterlife is that Ricky must be seething that he's having to make a TV show, in England.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 20, 2022, 08:47:12 PM
He hasn't given a shred of thought to themes like grief and depression. It just another case of him shoehorning having the last word (remember him saying/quipping that depression and bipolar was just a fashionable celebrity malady https://vimeo.com/103438537 ) into the only thing he knows: being a cunt
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Spongo McChongo on January 20, 2022, 08:56:28 PM
He was brilliant in that
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on January 20, 2022, 08:59:09 PM
Does the dead wife ever say anything like 'after I'm dead, I don't want you to be alone forever. You've got a lot of life ahead of you, one day find someone else, fall in love again, it's ok'

If not, what a selfish dead wife she is. I feel many people in that situation would say that, but it would knacker the show, so she doesn't.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 20, 2022, 09:00:09 PM
She isn't dead, she's living a better life in harlow

For the big man with massive balls who says what he likes and to hell with those wokes he sure has dedicated a lot of his career to transforming himself into an irreproachable gestalt entity. So far he's a widowed, depressed, dog-loving, magical disabled person
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on January 20, 2022, 09:18:00 PM
Quote from: phes on January 20, 2022, 09:00:09 PMShe isn't dead, she's living a better life in harlow

maybe that's season 4. Tony finds out dead wife's alive and well, 6 episodes of him following her round with a video camera calling her a cunt while everyone else says how wonderful he is.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 20, 2022, 09:41:14 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 07:01:49 PMAward for the most obscure but well observed reference goes to you.

Thanks. I wish I had more to be proud of but this is likely to be a high point of my month.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TheQueensboroBridge on January 20, 2022, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 20, 2022, 06:57:31 PMHis treatment of the nurse one is just terrible - just remembered how she was one rung worse than Beverley Allitt because she didn't find the lemon with eyes drawn on one of the funniest things ever. No matter that we see in yet more recorded footage that it was a big in-joke about things with faces on. But then at the end Kind Tony does release  her so the old flame can have a go on her. The nods of acceptance where Alpha Tony gives his blessing to Beta Flame is very funny. No matter that their entire relationship seemed to consist of him saying he was going for a round-shouldered waddle to the pub if she wanted to come along.

When his dead wife was alive he must have gone round like Lee Evans in that film where he records his every moment with a bodycam to insure against being falsely accused of a crime again.

I think someone up thread already said it but what really stood out was that at least in the previous two series as far as I remember Tony was a complete dick but to obviously horrible or annoying people.

In this series it was incredible how badly he treats the Nurse, the brother in law, Diane Morgan, the pub landlord, even the land rover driver who really didn't deserve having his car windscreen smashed through for being slightly over eager at a  pedestrian crossing.

It baffles the mind that Gervais could possibly see this awful, awful man as any kind of anti-hero. He's just a prick.

Also, how come Tony is just given carte blanche to wonder in and out of a Nursing Home whenever he wants and not only that but go and sit down in a residents room and no one thinks it's a bit odd? I understand you have to have artistic licence but it's especially jarring when it's so obviously not a sitcom but a 'comedy drama'. That's why his fortuitous encounters with Bench Woman stand out so badly. If it was a proper sitcom you'd just ignore it, like the way the Friends always got the big massive couch in the middle of a busy coffee shop in New York. Afterlife presents itself as grounded in reality but is utterly ludicrous.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: shlug on January 20, 2022, 10:06:25 PM
How heavy is the average cactus? Is it enough to smash a 4x4's rear window with it pulling away from the projectile cactus? Are we to believe Tony is some sort of Herculean demigod with the strength to hurl a cactus with such tremendous velocity and pinpoint accuracy? Boy I hope someone got fired for that blunder.

Jokes aside, at least the physics of Cactusgate are more believable than any of the supporting characters.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: rue the polywhirl on January 20, 2022, 10:12:13 PM
Having watched all 6 episodes and having read some of Ricky Gervais's own interviews I'm happy to declare and he is happy to declare this series After Thought. It circles the drain in so, so many repetitive circles. Doesn't add anything whatever new. It has some laughs but always goes for the easiest, most hollow laughs. Every character apart from Tony has devolved and is a worse, more pathetic version of themselves compared to the last series. Characterisation for characters new and old defaults to cardboard cut-out instantaneous and to new cardboard depths. It's so radically dishonest as well. Does Shrek character bill simply take every bit of Ricky Gervais abuse on the chin without not a whisper of complaint? Does Tony not have a single bad memory of his dead wife? I found episode 6 where Tony has his epiphany and gives a cheque to his brother in law to be worst 2 minutes of emoting. The former is not even trying, not even slightly believing what he's saying and the latter just holds a fixed position of confused, static grief, definitely from poor direction. And the last few seconds just wishes it was Blackadder 4. Great soundtracks. Absolutely sick of the sight of Kerry Godliman. Almost thought towards the end there was a potential match up of Dianne Morgan and Gervais.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on January 20, 2022, 10:22:56 PM
You know how people use Stevie Wonder and Rod Stewart as examples of artists whose later work is a pale imitation of their great early work? Gervais is now the archetype.
After Life = I Just Called to Say I Love You or The Motown Record.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on January 20, 2022, 10:48:22 PM
And the last few seconds are a shameless rip off of the very last episode of " Still Game" more than wishing to be the last bit of Blackadder 4, I would have thought.

I've only seen the trailer for this series, but I know damn well what a load of shit it is.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neveragain on January 20, 2022, 10:57:00 PM
One thing to be taken from After Life is (via CaB) it's got me watching Still Game. What a lovely warm show.

I also agree with phes that there's nothing in the show about the psychology of grief and depression. I look at Bojack Horseman and think God, what a brilliant insightful show and will myself slide into a depression if it's not remembered as such while this load of tosh is lauded to the skies.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 11:02:32 PM
I also feel there's a touch of The Detectorists being pinched here. The overall gentleness of the village setting mixed with a climax where everyone's friends. Seems very Detectorists.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neveragain on January 20, 2022, 11:17:17 PM
Another series with much greater nuance and intelligence.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 20, 2022, 11:57:50 PM
I read an interview excerpt with him and the Chubby Funster is denying that the James Corden character was based on James Corden.
I don't believe you, Rick. Play a record.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 21, 2022, 12:26:42 AM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 20, 2022, 11:02:32 PMI also feel there's a touch of The Detectorists being pinched here. The overall gentleness of the village setting mixed with a climax where everyone's friends. Seems very Detectorists.
you're right, he's trying to riff off that. except Detectorists is good. and filmed in Essex, while most of this is in Herts
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: samadriel on January 21, 2022, 12:48:22 AM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 13, 2022, 10:05:49 PMSort of like this...


What a bizarre place for a TV.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Captain Z on January 21, 2022, 12:50:25 AM
Hi Ricky, took my grandmother to sit on one of your After Life benches, but the couple already sitting there didn't move. Thought of you, and put a brick through their car window. #Bemorekind
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: up_the_hampipe on January 21, 2022, 12:58:06 AM
Wow, I didn't know Ash Atalla had come out against the jokes Gervais used to make about him. Gervais' response is very telling, immediately on the defensive: "Well, he didn't tell me!"

The impression I got from those British Comedy Awards speeches was that there must have been an established rapport between them. But the fact that he'd just make all these disabled jokes to one of his employees and Atalla decided to just go along with it. What a shitbag. He was such a loudmouth 40-year-old school bully and everyone encouraged it. Let's not forget poor Nigel the editor.

For such an atheist, this whole kindness schtick comes across like he's trying to bargain his way into heaven after a life of rotten behaviour.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Faineant on January 21, 2022, 02:17:53 AM
God almighty, I just popped season 3 on for an hour. This show has gone from shit to fucking shit. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on January 21, 2022, 09:06:57 AM
Reading this thread makes me feel jealous. I wish I had enough free time to watch half the stuff I think I'd enjoy, let alone enough time to watch something I know I'll hate.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mrspangles on January 21, 2022, 11:49:27 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 20, 2022, 11:57:50 PMI read an interview excerpt with him and the Chubby Funster is denying that the James Corden character was based on James Corden.
I don't believe you, Rick. Play a record.

When you have the third writer of The Wrong Mans playing your brother-in-law and you're literally filming these scenes in a town Corden lived in, about 5 miles from his family home? Hmm
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mrspangles on January 21, 2022, 11:53:16 AM
How much of this show is actually written? seems like David Earl/Brian Gittens, Tim Key, Diane Morgan et al are just asked to do a bit of what they do
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 21, 2022, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: mrspangles on January 21, 2022, 11:53:16 AMHow much of this show is actually written? seems like David Earl/Brian Gittens, Tim Key, Diane Morgan et al are just asked to do a bit of what they do

I don't know David Earl's stuff (which I need to remedy) but I think I said above that Tim Key's bit certainly felt like it was written by someone else - although it might just have been his delivery. Having said that I can't imagine the Chubby Funster allowing anyone else to use his pen.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 21, 2022, 01:07:50 PM
Then again, he's incredibly lazy. I find it hard to believe it wasn't Smerch doing all the typing in the Office days.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 21, 2022, 02:26:18 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 21, 2022, 01:07:50 PMThen again, he's incredibly lazy. I find it hard to believe it wasn't Smerch doing all the typing in the Office days.


Sums it up
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jack Shaftoe on January 21, 2022, 02:29:46 PM
One of those shitty benches is coming to my home town. LIVID.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mrspangles on January 21, 2022, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: paruses on January 21, 2022, 12:29:50 PMI don't know David Earl's stuff (which I need to remedy) but I think I said above that Tim Key's bit certainly felt like it was written by someone else - although it might just have been his delivery. Having said that I can't imagine the Chubby Funster allowing anyone else to use his pen.

Not his bits, certainly - but as shown, I can't imagine he gives the slightest fuck about what other people have to say, nor the inclination to write it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 21, 2022, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: Jack Shaftoe on January 21, 2022, 02:29:46 PMOne of those shitty benches is coming to my home town. LIVID.

Are the benches real? Assumed they were a piss-take.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 21, 2022, 02:48:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-60057551.amp

Please someone scrawl "i hope it was his cock you cunt" on them
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 21, 2022, 02:59:51 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 21, 2022, 01:07:50 PMThen again, he's incredibly lazy. I find it hard to believe it wasn't Smerch doing all the typing in the Office days.

Merchant clearly wrote a lot of the structural stuff. The will they won't they between Tim and Dawn, the merger, Brent being made redundant. I can't prove that 100%, but watching their work apart, Merchant's stuff is very structural (sometimes too much) and Gervais' work is very loose and sprawling.

I'm not trying to dismiss Gervais' work on The Office, but I wouldn't be surprised if many of the best gags were Gervais' but the structural plotting was Merch's.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 21, 2022, 03:21:18 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on January 21, 2022, 02:48:59 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-60057551.amp

Please someone scrawl "i hope it was his cock you cunt" on them

Am I missing something? Almost 100% sure benches came in when I was growing up in the 70s. I remember there was an instructional programme presented by Michael Aspel on how to use them.

The sickening thing about this is it's a good thing to be happening (even though they'll just get used as places for teenage girls to get fingered) but this travesty of a programme will be lauded for it.

Actually, this would be a good example to go in the tax write-off thread.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chip on January 21, 2022, 03:53:43 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 21, 2022, 02:59:51 PMI'm not trying to dismiss Gervais' work on The Office, but I wouldn't be surprised if many of the best gags were Gervais' but the structural plotting was Merch's.

Interesting and very valid theory, but what were the big gag setpieces in After Life? I ground through both previous series recently before this third one and I still can't bring anything to mind except Hope It Was His C*ck You C*nt.

Not disagreeing with your point either, to me it's just part of the big Gervaisian decline in every element of creating a comedy show.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chveik on January 21, 2022, 04:04:05 PM
congratulations to ricky gervais for inventing the bench
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: sevendaughters on January 21, 2022, 05:22:21 PM
one point against Merchant's genius in tandem with Gervais is that Life's Too Short was abysmal. Had he given up trying to stop Gervais' worst impulses?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: bgmnts on January 21, 2022, 05:24:02 PM
Yeah must have. Gervais was just like lol let's make a show about a funny dwarf and Merchant probably had to pay off a house or something.

The Liam Neeson bit is one of the funniest things they've done though, oddly.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 21, 2022, 05:26:58 PM
Quote from: chveik on January 21, 2022, 04:04:05 PMcongratulations to ricky gervais for inventing the bench

IN A WORLD WHERE EVERYONE CAN ONLY STAND UP...

...THIS GUY CAN SIT DOWN

THE INVENTION OF THE BENCH
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 21, 2022, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: sevendaughters on January 21, 2022, 05:22:21 PMone point against Merchant's genius in tandem with Gervais is that Life's Too Short was abysmal. Had he given up trying to stop Gervais' worst impulses?

It could be two things:

1. Merchant was fed up and let Gervais steam roll him.

2. I'm attributing too much to Merchant early on and his recent quality work (Outlaws, Fighting With My Family - I know they have their detractors but I think both are broadly well reviewed) shows more of a late blooming talent, like George Harrison's later Beatles songwriting).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: sevendaughters on January 21, 2022, 05:42:29 PM
I'm on the fence. I sort of feel like Merchant had a sulk to his agent that he needed some credible work now and got the grindr killer job. Bit cynical?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on January 21, 2022, 05:45:28 PM
For all the people making snide comments about Ricky inventing the bench, these benches are for talking and sharing, he's not saying he's invented the bench. It's like when you buy one of those notebooks with "My Dream Journal" on the cover, it's specifically for dreams.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on January 21, 2022, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: sevendaughters on January 21, 2022, 05:42:29 PMI'm on the fence. I sort of feel like Merchant had a sulk to his agent that he needed some credible work now and got the grindr killer job. Bit cynical?

He was already doing very well in his career, so I don't think that unexpected move into drama was a cynical gambit. He probably just wanted to try something different. And he succeeded.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 21, 2022, 05:53:29 PM
Hot take: Merchant may not be much cop either, and the office was built around small moments where a (largely unknown) Ricky gervais just played Ricky gervais. Credit where it's due - a great character and perfect for the Office which is still a great bit of work. It's revisionist to say one contributed more than the other.

Their problem is you can't keep transplanting that successful character to other sitcoms and expect the same result, though they tried with diminishing marginal returns (Extras, LTS, etc).

Once Merch left, gervais tried his hand at developing new characters (or reheating half-concepts) and parping out Derek, before trying to do Brent again with that film, then this latest bilge where he doesn't really play a character at all.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on January 21, 2022, 05:54:13 PM
He also did quite a solid dramatic performance in Login, which also scratches off a superhero movie off the list.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 21, 2022, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on January 21, 2022, 05:45:28 PMFor all the people making snide comments about Ricky inventing the bench, these benches are for talking and sharing, he's not saying he's invented the bench. It's like when you buy one of those notebooks with "My Dream Journal" on the cover, it's specifically for dreams.

Rick is merely facilitating dreams, and the PR plug for his latest dreck is an unintended consequence.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 21, 2022, 05:57:45 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on January 21, 2022, 05:45:28 PMFor all the people making snide comments about Ricky inventing the bench, these benches are for talking and sharing, he's not saying he's invented the bench. It's like when you buy one of those notebooks with "My Dream Journal" on the cover, it's specifically for dreams.

Yea that's why I said it's a good thing. I hope they are really successful. The problem is Gervais will think that he invented the bench. And talking. Maybe even sitting.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: peanutbutter on January 21, 2022, 05:58:10 PM
RE: Life's Too Short, I'd say a combo of Merchant still having some insecurities about his ability to break off and assessing that it was more beneficial for him to do one more show with Gervais/BBC/HBO together and build up some stronger contacts in the process.

As a career move it was probably the right one to do if it's what led to his (fairly meh) first solo project being on HBO. Like, he's a decent performer and is fairly competent but I think it'd be a stretch to say he's much more than that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 21, 2022, 06:01:06 PM
I reckon The Waddle will come back too based on After Life 3. Shame that Vito from The Sopranos will be forgotten.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: JamesTC on January 21, 2022, 06:08:33 PM
Quote from: QDRPHNC on January 21, 2022, 05:45:28 PMFor all the people making snide comments about Ricky inventing the bench, these benches are for talking and sharing, he's not saying he's invented the bench. It's like when you buy one of those notebooks with "My Dream Journal" on the cover, it's specifically for dreams.

Ahh, it's just a bit of silliness.

There is weird blindness by TV critics to anything other than the very thing right in front of them. The Guardian once referred to Star Trek Discovery as the first Star Trek show to deal with religion, which is the most moronic thing I've ever read in a critical analysis.

The benches in isolation might be a nice idea but wreak of cynicism as a marketing exercise. Mix that with the fact that the central message of the show is so muddied and overly simplistic. Maybe After Life may do some good for mental health through just raising awareness. But After Life raising awareness of mental health just feels like Hulk Hogan raising awareness of Black Lives Matter.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 21, 2022, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: dead-ced-dead on January 21, 2022, 05:41:26 PMIt could be two things:

1. Merchant was fed up and let Gervais steam roll him.

2. I'm attributing too much to Merchant early on and his recent quality work (Outlaws, Fighting With My Family - I know they have their detractors but I think both are broadly well reviewed) shows more of a late blooming talent, like George Harrison's later Beatles songwriting).

I remember just before life's too short came out and Gervais was promoting the hell out of it (and already responding to what he imagined the criticism of it would be, turned out that the percieved 'cruel dwarf comedy' was the least of the shows problems), there wasn't much promotion from merchant and the one occasion I remember that he did bring it up in an interview it sounded like a statement of facts where he said something like "I am working on a new comedy series with Ricky Gervais and Warwick Davis".
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chveik on January 21, 2022, 07:34:45 PM
Quote from: Ferris on January 21, 2022, 05:53:29 PMHot take: Merchant may not be much cop either

yeah i haven't watched his recent stuff but hello ladies really sucked
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on January 21, 2022, 07:40:40 PM
It's funny, I was walking through my local park the other day wishing there was a place to sit and contemplate life, but there wasn't. There were wooden seats that would fit three or four people (two Ricky Gervaises) but there were no benches. Nowhere to think.
Thanks to Ricky there might be now.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 21, 2022, 07:48:20 PM
I definitely don't think Steve was the secret genius behind the office. I just think he would've been doing all the typing!
like others have said, I reckon he just helped bring conventional structure and form to Ricky's ideas (while contributing some of his own of course) and probably reigned in the Chubmeister General's worst impulses.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 21, 2022, 08:12:43 PM
I've just read the first episode of Derek was ten years ago this April.  It didn't seem that long.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: LynnBenfield69 on January 21, 2022, 08:59:34 PM
Seems pretty clear that Ricky is just a normal, fairly untalented or driven person. He never seriously tried his hand at writing until forty and has little interest in studying the form, or indeed reading anything at all. Unlike Merchant.

The only thing that Merchant didn't have when they met is forty years of stored up anecdotes and funny bits. It's telling that Ricky's standups are usually centered around stories he's either picked up through family members / friends of friends or are just common urban myths. He is like the pub bore who's run out of stories to repeat so he just says cunt a lot to get laughs.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Faineant on January 21, 2022, 09:14:22 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on January 21, 2022, 08:12:43 PMI've just read the first episode of Derek was ten years ago this April.  It didn't seem that long.

It only seems that long while watching it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 22, 2022, 01:39:31 AM
I watched a compilation of "After Life's Most Heartbreaking Moments", and I'm still staggered by how on earth it gets away with all the side characters constantly praising Tony. Just scene after scene of people saying "Tony, you're so good, you're so funny, you're so kind".

Sometimes I slip into the trap of thinking our criticism is a theatrical parody, and then I go and watch some clips and remember it's impossible to out-parody the man.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on January 22, 2022, 02:04:12 AM
I just can't get over how his fan base is now David Earl's character and co in the pub in Extras. He's become everything he sneered at on XFM and in his shows.

I do wish someone famous or credible would come out and just say After Life is shit, but it's not worth the headache is it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 22, 2022, 02:11:45 AM
Tim Heidecker and Limmy have both talked about Derek being shite iirc
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Post by: Ferris on January 22, 2022, 02:47:55 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 22, 2022, 02:11:45 AMTim Heidecker and Limmy have both talked about Derek being shite iirc

Derek is so much more interesting(ly awful) than just shit. It's the work of a twisted mind. You could write a thesis on it.
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Post by: checkoutgirl on January 22, 2022, 03:16:28 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 22, 2022, 02:11:45 AMTim Heidecker and Limmy have both talked about Derek being shite iirc

Frankie Boyle too. Something like...

"How can Ricky Gervais say there isn't a god when he got a second series of Derek commissioned?"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on January 22, 2022, 08:47:32 AM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 22, 2022, 03:16:28 AMFrankie Boyle too. Something like...

"How can Ricky Gervais say there isn't a god when he got a second series of Derek commissioned?"
It was more like "I don't need Ricky Gervais to tell me there's no god, I knew that when Derek got recommissioned"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Better Midlands on January 22, 2022, 09:12:58 AM
Quote from: Frankie Boyle on Grounded with Louis Theroux podcastIf you're a stand-up watching him, you feel like, "oh, that's someone doing a version of what we do."

But really, it's that I saw him doing his routine about trans people and I thought it was very lazy.

I would like him to have the same respect for trans people as he seems to have for animals. I don't think that's a lot to ask.

I mean, look, we know Ricky Gervais, he's a brilliant actor, he's a brilliant writer, he's not a f***ing stand-up comedian!

Just 'cause Ricky Gervais self-identifies as a stand-up comedian, am I supposed to say that he is one? It's f***ing political correctness gone mad!


Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 22, 2022, 10:00:38 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on January 22, 2022, 09:12:58 AMI would like him to have the same respect for trans people as he seems to have for animals. I don't think that's a lot to ask.
Interesting coming from Boyle. He's worse than Gervais for making edgelord jokes and then intellectualising them later to justify it and hide the real reason he finds them funny. To then preach and condemn others for it shows he might have even less self awareness than Ricky. Even if he is right on this.

I have no problem with Boyle making the jokes he makes, or even Rick really, it's just exasperating to hear them try and pretend their edgy humour is somehow noble and making a social point, when it broadly isn't.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 22, 2022, 10:16:48 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 22, 2022, 10:00:38 AMInteresting coming from Boyle. He's worse than Gervais for making edgelord jokes and then intellectualising them later to justify it and hide the real reason he finds them funny. To then preach and condemn others for it shows he might have even less self awareness than Ricky. Even if he is right on this.

I have no problem with Boyle making the jokes he makes, or even Rick really, it's just exasperating to hear them try and pretend their edgy humour is somehow noble and making a social point, when it broadly isn't.


And Tramadol Nights is possibly worse than anything Gervais has ever done.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dannyfc on January 22, 2022, 01:47:25 PM
Haven't really watched much of Gervais' work beyond the first couple episodes of Life's Too Short, just the odd clips here and there of Derek and After Life are enough for me to have no interest in doing so.

That said in regards to The Office, there's enough in his performance of Brent to indicate he was the driving creative force behind it. I don't buy that it was all Merchant's work and he's just profited on being the leading man for it.  How he delivered his lines, the knowing glances, comedic timing, you can't just bluff that from someone elses writing. 

Which makes it all the more baffling how someone that created something so good and innovative ends up making the most hackiest comedy going. It's not even if he's just phoning in cameos for a payday, legitimately seems like this his proudest work.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 22, 2022, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on January 22, 2022, 10:16:48 AMAnd Tramadol Nights is possibly worse than anything Gervais has ever done.

That Knight Rider sketch, christ. Tramadol Nights would be a great contender for a watch along.

Any time Frankie Boyle pontificates about other comedians people usually see him standing in a very fragile glass house and have done for years. Making very mean, nasty, and frankly baffling jokes about Harvey Price and Rebecca Adlington took away Boyle's moral high ground and credibility for judging others years ago.

I hate to be the comedy police and believe comedians can say pretty much whatever they want, but I draw the line at completely innocent, real life individuals getting the piss ripped out of them for no fault of their own, even worse if it's a kid.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 22, 2022, 05:41:14 PM
Quote from: Mobius on January 22, 2022, 02:04:12 AMI do wish someone famous or credible would come out and just say After Life is shit,

Brendan O'Carroll said it was "amazing (https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/29/mrs-browns-boys-star-praises-fantastic-ricky-gervais-win-life-national-television-awards-12143319/)", which probably equates to that.

Seriously, I remember a lot of After Life apologists replying to any negative Twitter criticism with words to the effect of "Oh I suppose Mrs Brown's Boys is more your thing?" which makes this even funnier. And tbf even Mrs Brown's Boys is more structured and carefully-plotted than After Life.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 22, 2022, 06:27:26 PM
The last episode of this all but paints him as an actual angel, with good things happening to people just because he happens to be in the near vicinity emanating his newly discovered positive vibes, and then walking off into the distance like The Littlest Hobo.

(Earlier draft of this post said "Like Michael Landon in Highway to Heaven," which would have fitted the angel theme better, but after looking at the ends of a few episodes on YouTube, it seems he didn't actually do that. I think I'd got him mixed up with Bruce Banner.)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phosphoresce on January 22, 2022, 06:46:49 PM
The benches should all be inscribed with some Gervais wisdom – "kindness is magic" "being nice is a superpower that's real". We can take some time to sit, contemplate and learn to be kind.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on January 22, 2022, 06:52:23 PM
I guess that would be "Hope is everything."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 22, 2022, 08:01:11 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 22, 2022, 05:41:14 PMeven Mrs Brown's Boys is more structured and carefully-plotted than After Life.

I don't think so. I watched an episode of Brown's the other day and it doesn't even have a plot. They're about equal I'd say, except Gervais hires people who were actors before they were on After Life, not just his AmDram friends and family that he can manipulate at will and pay whatever he wants.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on January 22, 2022, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: olliebean on January 22, 2022, 06:27:26 PMthen walking off into the distance like The Littlest Hobo

Or The Quantum Leap, where will Ricky appear next and what will he do to sort out that person's life?

I like the idea of Ricky actually killing himself at the first attempt and the 3 series are his last hallucinations, Jacob's Ladder style. He couldn't pass over to the other side until he'd made his peace. Didn't he mention Groundhog Day at some point? Hmmm.

I don't know why I'm speculating as I'm sure Ricky has explained the whole thing in great detail in multiple interviews and tweets. He's the one person you don't want to do that though, as anyone else's interpretation would almost certainly be better than what Rickboys intended.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Better Midlands on January 22, 2022, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 22, 2022, 08:09:22 PMOr The Quantum Leap, where will Ricky appear next and what will he do to sort out that person's life?

(https://i.imgur.com/UZg8zV1.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on January 22, 2022, 11:46:24 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on January 22, 2022, 04:05:02 PMThat Knight Rider sketch, christ. Tramadol Nights would be a great contender for a watch along.

Any time Frankie Boyle pontificates about other comedians people usually see him standing in a very fragile glass house and have done for years. Making very mean, nasty, and frankly baffling jokes about Harvey Price and Rebecca Adlington took away Boyle's moral high ground and credibility for judging others years ago.

I hate to be the comedy police and believe comedians can say pretty much whatever they want, but I draw the line at completely innocent, real life individuals getting the piss ripped out of them for no fault of their own, even worse if it's a kid.
That Knight Rider sketch would have been overlong, thin gruel even it had been aired a thousand years ago when Knight Rider was actually on TV. And this was from the guy who had previously slagged of Have I Got News For You for making hacky fat jokes about Eric Pickles (and then hosted the show some years after calling it a blight on the British satire landscape).

That said, I still like him better than Gervais, and better late than never if he's discovered comedic discretion, although it would be nice if he copped to his double standards.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Faineant on January 23, 2022, 01:24:41 AM
This is nitpicky, but even the color grading is over the top, and they even applied it to the home video clips. Why the duck are there so many home video clips, anyway? It's like they lived in the big brother house.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: TommyTurnips on January 23, 2022, 03:24:33 AM
It might have been better and more believable if the video clips were made to look like memories of cancer wife. Like maybe for example he picks up a comb and looks at it and it triggers a memory of her combing her hair all nice because they were going out together that evening. Something like that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 23, 2022, 04:53:38 AM
Quote from: TommyTurnips on January 23, 2022, 03:24:33 AMIt might have been better and more believable if the video clips were made to look like memories of cancer wife. Like maybe for example he picks up a comb and looks at it and it triggers a memory of her combing her hair all nice because they were going out together that evening. Something like that.

It's like Dean Lerner's directorial ethos in the (in-fiction) Darkplace making-of special. Someone asks him about drinks for characters and he's enraged "no don't fucking bother just get get them ready". Cut to in-show scene, two characters ask for drinks and the barman pulls them, pre-poured, from under the counter.

The lazy shortcut is intentional and who cares about the reduced quality of the output, just fucking do it and move on, per Dean's direction. It would take effort to do more, and nobody involved cares enough, fuck it, whatever.

It's a similar vibe. "Should we maybe introduce a new method of remembering Cancer Wife, Rick?" No don't fuck around wasting time with that, just use the laptop, that's still alright, who cares it'll be fine, let's get this finished.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on January 23, 2022, 05:13:12 AM
Talking of low-effort stink bombs, can anyone who watched the whole thing confirm there was an appearance of the execrable song he recorded?

Edit: ah, it only made the final cut in "instrumental form", but some digging reveals a co-writing credit for the drummer from Razorlight, and apparently the Rickster went as far as shooting a video for the full version (https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2021/12/02/49753/ricky_gervais_plans_to_revive_his_music_ambitions) which would be worth a watch, but the whole thing seems to have been buried. Someone must have had a word.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mr. logic on January 23, 2022, 06:23:36 AM
It's notable that the type of low effort gay banter that got Brent eye rolls is laughed at by the other characters in this. When you consider that it's really quite shocking.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 23, 2022, 07:00:55 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on January 22, 2022, 11:46:24 PMThat Knight Rider sketch would have been overlong, thin gruel even it had been aired a thousand years ago when Knight Rider was actually on TV.

Reminds me of French and Saunders sending up Abba's Knowing Me Knowing You video, years and years after they'd stopped having hits.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 23, 2022, 09:14:37 AM
Quote from: Ferris on January 23, 2022, 05:13:12 AMTalking of low-effort stink bombs, can anyone who watched the whole thing confirm there was an appearance of the execrable song he recorded?

Edit: ah, it only made the final cut in "instrumental form", but some digging reveals a co-writing credit for the drummer from Razorlight, and apparently the Rickster went as far as shooting a video for the full version (https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2021/12/02/49753/ricky_gervais_plans_to_revive_his_music_ambitions) which would be worth a watch, but the whole thing seems to have been buried. Someone must have had a word.

thanks for that link, how did this slip by me the first time around?
Quote from: TheChubbyFunster"'I can put out ironic songs as David Brent but I haven't written a serious song in 40 years, so I'm thinking, "What if it's crap?" — but it's not, it's really good.'"

I worried it was crap, but nah, it's actually REALLY good. amazing
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sexton Brackets Drugbust on January 23, 2022, 10:34:52 AM
The telling thing for me is that, while there's usually a veneer of irony to the scenes - we're supposed to be laughing at them - Gervais is definitely most comfortable writing aggressively unpleasant, boorish characters; reiterations of Finchy, essentially.

His more 'laddish' characters seem to be the ones that yield the biggest reactions from the audience and get the most explosive outtake reels.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 25, 2022, 10:51:14 PM
I saw a clip on YouTube of the series 3 outtakes and even they were quite poor. The other two seasons at least had _some_ funny bits in the outtakes. I think I've only ever seen the outtakes and not a single episode.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 26, 2022, 02:56:42 AM
He should go fully down the Mrs. Brown's Boys route and just leave the outtakes in now. It would make for a funnier show.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: druss on January 26, 2022, 09:50:11 AM
This is genius.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: mrspangles on January 26, 2022, 02:46:24 PM
I don't know where else to even ask this, but... The hospice kids. Where the fuck did that come from?! Are these kids who are genuinely ill or did he cast children and shave their heads? And am I the wrong one for even thinking it? This had less of a god complex than Mr Burns being 'truly the king of kings' for giving slave John Wayne a glug of water.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 26, 2022, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: mrspangles on January 26, 2022, 02:46:24 PMI don't know where else to even ask this, but... The hospice kids. Where the fuck did that come from?! Are these kids who are genuinely ill or did he cast children and shave their heads? And am I the wrong one for even thinking it? This had less of a god complex than Mr Burns being 'truly the king of kings' for giving slave John Wayne a glug of water.

Hospice kids (or kids in a cancer ward) goes right back to the XFM days. I recall the joke being the tubby funster did a Christmas thing there two years running and remembered one kid from the last time and said something like he was putting it on or whatever. Recycling 'material' from 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on January 26, 2022, 03:29:18 PM
At least main one is a child actor whos had one other role

Telegraph article
https://archive.fo/CgwAR

Bald wigs I guess. Not too difficult. Easier than getting a terminally-ill child to suddenly become an actor to please the ego of Ricky Gervais
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on January 26, 2022, 05:15:33 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on January 21, 2022, 05:24:02 PMMerchant probably had to pay off a house or something.


Why? Had he got it pregnant?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on January 26, 2022, 05:22:12 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 22, 2022, 10:00:38 AMInteresting coming from Boyle. He's worse than Gervais for making edgelord jokes and then intellectualising them later to justify it and hide the real reason he finds them funny. To then preach and condemn others for it shows he might have even less self awareness than Ricky. Even if he is right on this.

I have no problem with Boyle making the jokes he makes, or even Rick really, it's just exasperating to hear them try and pretend their edgy humour is somehow noble and making a social point, when it broadly isn't.


Couldn't agree more. I find FB funny but he's shockingly hypocritical about what constitutes comedy and what doesn't. And yes Tramadol Nights was awful. As is one of his books - can't remember its name but it was that same sort of sinister surrealism. Which sounds good but is actually just very very tedious.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 26, 2022, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Menu on January 26, 2022, 05:22:12 PMAs is one of his books - can't remember its name but it was that same sort of sinister surrealism. Which sounds good but is actually just very very tedious.

Scotland's Jesus? I got that as a two-for-one Kindle deal with My Shit Life So Far. Enjoyed MSLSF, found SJ unreadable. Like one of those ranty Jeremy Clarkson-esque toilet books destined to end up as lazy Fathers' Day gifts.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on January 26, 2022, 07:12:09 PM
Hey, Blue Jam! No it was called "Work! Consume! Die!", and it was dreadful. Yeah MSLSF was quite good. The only problem was I got the audiobook and, for whatever reason, he doesn't do the narration himself. Instead it's some weedy-voiced actor instead, and you really lose a lot without FB's delivery.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: chip on January 26, 2022, 11:51:37 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on January 26, 2022, 06:45:37 PMMy Shit Life So Far

I haven't read it but it's possibly my favourite autobiography name ever. Tickles me whenever I see it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on January 26, 2022, 11:54:45 PM
I tell you what, My Shit Life So Far made for bloody good holiday reading. Reading about bleak Glasgow housing estates while sitting on a sunny beach in Lisbon made the experience all the more enjoyable.

It genuinely is a good title as well.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Indomitable Spirit on January 27, 2022, 12:50:14 AM
https://twitter.com/NetflixUK/status/1486381281063714819

(https://i.imgur.com/QN8yPev.png)

naaah, cunt's taking the piss surely?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on January 27, 2022, 09:18:25 AM
Was just thinking of the scene with tubby Ricky Gervais on the punchbag. Really made laugh remembering his strong arms and podgy belly in that singlet. Love how it's the intro to him being a lapsed athlete.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 27, 2022, 10:15:23 AM
Quote from: paruses on January 27, 2022, 09:18:25 AMWas just thinking of the scene with tubby Ricky Gervais on the punchbag. Really made laugh remembering his strong arms and podgy belly in that singlet. Love how it's the intro to him being a lapsed athlete.

That was so fucking weird. I didn't get far beyond that moment but it was such a surreal scene to put right at the start of an episode (must have been ep 2), I genuinely didn't realise what was happening at first.

And in contrast to him farting on her head or pissing in her Cornflakes or whatever pranks the Rickster was pulling on the reg, Godliman's way to "get back at him" is to sneak up on him when's being a furiously muscly and strong boy in a sleeveless top and filming his hench bod while it's in full-on Streets of Rage mode.

"Oh you startled me while I was being such a strong boy! You're not filming that, are you? Oh nooo. You got me good and proper. At least it's not going out on Netflix or summat!"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on January 27, 2022, 10:17:36 AM
I'm so glad I did first and last episodes only, and so missed all this mad shit with Tony being amazing at sports. It sounds like absolute wank.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on January 27, 2022, 10:23:49 AM
Jesus christ it's like that bit in The Office when he's 'backstage' after his motivational speaker gig and he draws his stomach in and puffs his chest out when that woman comes in.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on January 27, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
does anyone have any predictions for his next project?
I'm trying to think of which of his obsessions he hasn't already tackled

celebrities = extras
ironic bigotry = everything
people who are different to him = derek and life's too short
kindness = derek and afterlife
working class people are angels = derek and afterlife
atheism = the invention of lying
music = life on the road
philosophy and science = that sam harris podcast

i think he's just about covered all of it now. Maybe he'll waddle off into the sunset, like Tony, carrying a bindle full of all his awards, and this will be our last major Gervais work


Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Spongo McChongo on January 27, 2022, 11:25:56 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 27, 2022, 10:34:55 AMdoes anyone have any predictions for his next project?
I'm trying to think of which of his obsessions he hasn't already tackled

celebrities = extras
ironic bigotry = everything
people who are different to him = derek and life's too short
kindness = derek and afterlife
working class people are angels = derek and afterlife
atheism = the invention of lying
music = life on the road
philosophy and science = that sam harris podcast

i think he's just about covered all of it now. Maybe he'll waddle off into the sunset, like Tony, carrying a bindle full of all his awards, and this will be our last major Gervais work




Porn
2 lesbians,sisters probably, hes just watching
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: poodlefaker on January 27, 2022, 12:02:32 PM
Could totally see him trying a lazy third-rate CYE-type thing drawing on his own life.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: rude soil on January 27, 2022, 12:28:34 PM
Tim Key, on Off Menu, said that they really push the outtakes on After Life so you'd be an idiot not to laugh along. It was part of a joke about something else but it does make me imagine a working environment where you have to laugh along every time you hear this cackle because you know it's going on the compilation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2vElLG0rc0&t=351
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Stone Cold Steve Austin on January 27, 2022, 12:37:36 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 27, 2022, 10:34:55 AMdoes anyone have any predictions for his next project?
I'm trying to think of which of his obsessions he hasn't already tackled

celebrities = extras
ironic bigotry = everything
people who are different to him = derek and life's too short
kindness = derek and afterlife
working class people are angels = derek and afterlife
atheism = the invention of lying
music = life on the road
philosophy and science = that sam harris podcast

i think he's just about covered all of it now. Maybe he'll waddle off into the sunset, like Tony, carrying a bindle full of all his awards, and this will be our last major Gervais work




I can see him fully pivoting to one of those ITV Martin Clunes or Paul O'Grady style shows about how much he loves dogs next
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on January 27, 2022, 12:49:24 PM
Quote from: poodlefaker on January 27, 2022, 12:02:32 PMCould totally see him trying a lazy third-rate CYE-type thing drawing on his own life.

I reckon this'll be it. He has such a limited perspective that anything not cribbed directly from his own life ends up being a demented trip into a fantasy land version of reality (hiya Derek mate).

It's not even necessarily a bad thing that he can only draw from his real life experiences. It's just that he's increasingly lazy with it and doesn't want to do any research, so it all feels flimsy and boring as fuck.

"What would it be like for me, Ricky Gervais, if - *looks around room* - my wife died? I'd be sad probably. I mean she wouldn't exist anymore so she can just be a 2-dimensional cyber angel, that works. And when I say I'd be sad, I wouldn't be all pathetic, like a junkie who deserves to die. I'd be an edgy misanthrope who triumphs over everyone around me because I just don't give a shit, yeah? And I'd have a dog. Fuck this is good stuff."
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Post by: Ferris on January 27, 2022, 01:20:20 PM
Quote from: rude soil on January 27, 2022, 12:28:34 PMTim Key, on Off Menu, said that they really push the outtakes on After Life so you'd be an idiot not to laugh along. It was part of a joke about something else but it does make me imagine a working environment where you have to laugh along every time you hear this cackle because you know it's going on the compilation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2vElLG0rc0&t=351

desolation
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Post by: Hat FM on January 27, 2022, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: poodlefaker on January 27, 2022, 12:02:32 PMCould totally see him trying a lazy third-rate CYE-type thing drawing on his own life.

him just sitting on twitter looking smug every day with his awards behind him.
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Post by: sevendaughters on January 27, 2022, 01:46:04 PM
there'll definitely be an endless parade of Netflix Specials designed to make people press their twitter and go OOK OOK OOOK
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on January 27, 2022, 03:22:47 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on January 27, 2022, 10:34:55 AMdoes anyone have any predictions for his next project?

Sitcom where he does the inner voice of a dog, goes on walks and meets other dogs, sniffs their arses LOLLLLL, calls out other dogs for being 'fat cunts'. There's another dog he meets who's always humping human's legs or chairs, with a suitably lewd voiceover by David Earl. Ricky-dog loves his owner (a vicar!) but can't understand why he seems to think fairy storeys about an old human who lives in the sky are actually real! Each episode he does something that proves dogs are kinder than humans (he doesn't actually do anything to prove this, he just goes into the garden where a wise old lady tortoise tells him how kind he is). Every episode plays out exactly the same way until the final five minutes of the series where he prevents his owner from commiting suicide and persuades him that God isn't real.
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Post by: Peabo Bryson Is Not Dead on January 27, 2022, 04:13:07 PM
I've given this a lot of thought, much more than it deserves but, Ricky Gervais is ok.

Not great, not a genius, but ok. He's found a path, a formula, and he's milking it for all it's worth. Kudos for that. I'd be happy if I had similar accolades and riches.

It doesn't change my mind that 'After Life' is sub-generic pish, so lazy it was probably written on his phone, and edited by no-one. What I appreciate now though is how lazy the rest of the media, publishers and platforms are in propping up his lack of energy or desire to grow. He's been in "the industry" for over 25 years. He was attached to names for about 10 years before that through his social circles. He is proven shorthand for giving people an opportunity, so much so that more exciting, new, and different talent isn't given that opportunity anymore (they merely have to appear in his dross and hope they get some crumbs from the industry circle-jerk response). His and Merchant's sitcom changed comedy commissioning on both sides of the Atlantic, by luck rather than design. Even Gervais took this as a central conceit of Extras and railed against it. Now Netflix just take anything of his based on his name rather than the quality of the limited work delivered (see also Chappelle).

To criticize Gervais in this forum can be seen as bitterness; from bedroom critics, wannabes and current writers and performers who don't receive the transatlantic, and then full-blown international success Ricky gets. However, he has done something right to still be in the zeitgeist. But Gervais used to repeat ad nauseam that being popular or being rich doesn't mean you're good. I think we're on to 30+ pages on this torrid, turgid topic because we're all disappointed in Ricky Gervais. He hasn't grown as a voice, he refuses to. He fleshes out caricatures he noted down in the 80s and uses decent performers to act them out, under his direction, because of the success subsequently seen by his previously used (brilliant) actors. It doesn't explain why Bowie gave him the time of day but it's the highpoint in Ricky's career, everything else has been downhill since. I'd kill to have half the success of his off days.

If any of us delivered such work as After Life, un-edited and so lacking in structure, we'd be laughed out of offices in London, New York and Burbank. And even Sydney, and they take any old shit. After Life is a serious threat to creative comedy and will blunt commissioning again for a generation. The harder you try, the lesser the reward. It's all so exhausting.
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Post by: AllisonSays on January 27, 2022, 06:05:24 PM
Quote from: frajer on January 27, 2022, 10:15:23 AMThat was so fucking weird. I didn't get far beyond that moment but it was such a surreal scene to put right at the start of an episode (must have been ep 2), I genuinely didn't realise what was happening at first.

And in contrast to him farting on her head or pissing in her Cornflakes or whatever pranks the Rickster was pulling on the reg, Godliman's way to "get back at him" is to sneak up on him when's being a furiously muscly and strong boy in a sleeveless top and filming his hench bod while it's in full-on Streets of Rage mode.

"Oh you startled me while I was being such a strong boy! You're not filming that, are you? Oh nooo. You got me good and proper. At least it's not going out on Netflix or summat!"

There's a really funny Bob Mortimer anecdote about an unfilmed celebrity boxing show starring Ricky Gervais, on the RHLSTP.
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Post by: paruses on January 27, 2022, 06:17:28 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on January 27, 2022, 06:05:24 PMThere's a really funny Bob Mortimer anecdote about an unfilmed celebrity boxing show starring Ricky Gervais, on the RHLSTP.

I was just thinking exactly the same thing. I remembered seeing Grant Bovey vs Ricky Gervais and it was back when it was exciting to see Gervais on something. Even then I remember thinking Bovey should have won but Gervais won on popularity (which they called points in the match). Might be an unfair call but seem to think my friend corroborated it at the time. Bit of foreshadowing, if you ask me for his subsequent career.

The Bob Mortimer story is great, though. Bob's horror at what was coming at him is very funny.
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Post by: Rob1969in on January 27, 2022, 06:38:31 PM
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Post by: H-O-W-L on January 27, 2022, 06:59:05 PM
That whole boxing thing was planned to be part of a series but the boxing industry (rightfully) pointed out how fucked up it was for amateurs to be pitted against each other like that (and especially men in their 40s with no sports experience) and the BBC shitcanned it.
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Post by: AllisonSays on January 27, 2022, 07:26:57 PM
Quote from: Rob1969in on January 27, 2022, 06:38:31 PM

Jesus christ, Gervais should've sacked off comedy and channeled his neuroses into boxing, he's not bad!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on January 27, 2022, 09:25:03 PM
Quote from: AllisonSays on January 27, 2022, 07:26:57 PMJesus christ, Gervais should've sacked off comedy and channeled his neuroses into boxing, he's not bad!

Bob wasn't the right opponent, it was a daft paring. However Ricky does show aptitude for it for sure. And massive props to Bob, that takes proper guts.
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Post by: Mobius on January 27, 2022, 09:29:52 PM
I thought he wrestled Anthea Turner's husband Grant Bovey, didn't realise he'd done two matches.

It was great on the XFM show when Ricky was doing that fight, didn't mind taking the piss out of himself. As Steve said he clearly fancied himself as a bit hard, but Ricky was enjoying how ridiculous the whole thing was.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-60071367

phwoar look how muscly he is in that bottom pic.
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Post by: shiftwork2 on January 28, 2022, 12:48:20 PM
I haven't subjected myself to this.  However I have over the past month watched some new solid telly starring (and with lots of creative input from) Martin Freeman, Mackenzie Crook and Stephen Merchant.

He has to know he's fucked it.
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Post by: idunnosomename on January 28, 2022, 02:22:58 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/89a9a43636c3ee9ef265727e6261073b/d717cdb4d633c342-08/s1280x1920/c67415616b9920e69670390be24db30e37a020dd.jpg)
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Post by: ImmaculateClump on January 28, 2022, 02:43:51 PM
Bench Wench (on Gervais' angelic bullying): "You prod them ... to make them think"

Big laugh, especially since it came right after the scene where he was sat next to a hospital bed, winding up a heart attack victim for 5 minutes.
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Post by: BritishHobo on January 28, 2022, 02:52:07 PM
That's so shit. Even if you're a fan of the kind of tedious cunt who loves pranks and banter, nobody in the world would ever gush that those things are motivated by some pure-hearted desire to improve your friend's lives. He's a fucking maniac.
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Post by: frajer on January 28, 2022, 03:01:25 PM
"Kindness through cuntiness" now seems to be Gervais's sole stock in trade.

In which case, fuck off and put some effort into your work Rick, you boring egotistical cunt.
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Post by: phes on January 28, 2022, 03:05:50 PM
This all sounds exactly like what you'd expect from a cruel and vain narcissist of limited ability and intelligence, who has never read anything or paid attention to anyone else
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Post by: Beep Cleep Chimney on January 28, 2022, 03:46:18 PM
Lovely stuff.
https://twitter.com/alexcnash/status/1109096504629907457? (https://twitter.com/alexcnash/status/1109096504629907457?)
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Post by: checkoutgirl on January 28, 2022, 07:15:05 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on January 28, 2022, 02:52:07 PMThat's so shit. Even if you're a fan of the kind of tedious cunt who loves pranks and banter, nobody in the world would ever gush that those things are motivated by some pure-hearted desire to improve your friend's lives. He's a fucking maniac.

It's just bad writing. It's used for one purpose at the start and then rebranded by another character to fit the message later. Is it because he's grieving and doesn't give a fuck or is he prodding to make them think?

Also what was he trying to make the Range Rover driver and schoolboy think other than "I'm scared".
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mr Faineant on January 29, 2022, 02:12:37 AM
This thing made me wonder if mawkish pablum is the worst kind of pablum. It fucking feels like it.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on January 29, 2022, 02:19:49 AM
I'm no expert on pablum, but if there's a worse kind of pablum than mawkish pablum I've never come across it.

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Post by: McChesney Duntz on January 29, 2022, 02:42:26 AM
Crunchy pablum is pretty bad, in my experience.
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 29, 2022, 08:03:40 AM
Isn't it 'pabulum' not 'pablum'?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on January 29, 2022, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: Beep Cleep Chimney on January 28, 2022, 03:46:18 PMLovely stuff.
https://twitter.com/alexcnash/status/1109096504629907457? (https://twitter.com/alexcnash/status/1109096504629907457?)

Would enjoy watching many more of these. There's a trillion pages of material here to mine if he needed his memory jogging
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on January 29, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
It could all be avoided by inventing a time machine then going back to the early '80s and bulk-buying the singles of his ill-fated New Romantic project.  Pop star Rick wouldn't have bothered with comedy.
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on January 29, 2022, 12:01:32 PM
but that raises the question of what Pop Elder Statesman Ricky would've been like sending himself up guesting in 00's sitcoms?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Kenkun on February 06, 2022, 05:41:33 PM
Limmy reviews After Life... a massively cathartic watch:

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Post by: TommyTurnips on February 06, 2022, 11:59:34 PM
Good to see someone else outside this forum seeing the show for what it is. Makes a nice change from all the youtube comments that I've seen from wet behind the ears Ricky Gervais fans saying "OMG IT'S BRILLIANT I CRIED AND CRIED AND CRIED".
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Post by: phes on February 07, 2022, 12:07:25 AM
I try to never get into this at work as it never ends well. I have no desire to subtract pleasure from their enjoyment of this turbid arse leak. And it's hard to explain how I've arrived at where I am with Ricky Gervais. All I can do is ask them if they've ever hate watched a show and then - when they say of course - admit that I've hate-watched Gervais' entire post The Office career 
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Post by: olliebean on February 07, 2022, 08:36:53 AM
What shows do people who love After Life hate watch? Is it shows that would appeal to someone who doesn't like After Life, or is it shows that are even worse?
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Post by: AsparagusTrevor on February 07, 2022, 09:27:23 AM
Quote from: olliebean on February 07, 2022, 08:36:53 AMWhat shows do people who love After Life hate watch? Is it shows that would appeal to someone who doesn't like After Life, or is it shows that are even worse?

I'd like to think there aren't many people outside this forum who hate-watch things. Because it's fucking weird.
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Post by: phes on February 07, 2022, 09:34:12 AM
Quote from: olliebean on February 07, 2022, 08:36:53 AMWhat shows do people who love After Life hate watch? Is it shows that would appeal to someone who doesn't like After Life, or is it shows that are even worse?

Many friends/colleagues who like After Life like much same things I like, or that this forum likes. Almost everyone likes After Life.

I have friends who love 'so bad they're good' films and genuinely think After Life is genius. I can't explain it
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Post by: phes on February 07, 2022, 09:54:51 AM
Quote from: AsparagusTrevor on February 07, 2022, 09:27:23 AMI'd like to think there aren't many people outside this forum who hate-watch things. Because it's fucking weird.

A lot of tv draws hate-watching. The only difference is wether that's by design or not. All cab has done is chosen its own villain
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Post by: Ant Farm Keyboard on February 07, 2022, 01:41:24 PM
There's a lot of hate-watching for the current Sex & the City sequel.
I'm basically hate-watching American Horror Story and a couple of other shows. That said, I've stopped with Gervais after the first episode of Life's Too Short that somebody showed me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 07, 2022, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: phes on February 07, 2022, 09:34:12 AMMany friends/colleagues who like After Life like much same things I like, or that this forum likes. Almost everyone likes After Life.

I have friends who love 'so bad they're good' films and genuinely think After Life is genius. I can't explain it
Ha, you've reminded me a comment I read either on here or Pilkipedia from when the first series of Derek finished. It talked about how baffling they found it that Derek hadn't been utterly panned, let alone garner mostly positive reviews. They concluded "Derek is actually a good show and I've gone insane. That's the only logical explanation."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on February 07, 2022, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: olliebean on February 07, 2022, 08:36:53 AMWhat do people who love After Life hate watch?

Their spouse.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wrec on February 07, 2022, 03:58:55 PM
Quote from: phes on February 07, 2022, 09:34:12 AMMany friends/colleagues who like After Life like much same things I like, or that this forum likes. Almost everyone likes After Life.

I have friends who love 'so bad they're good' films and genuinely think After Life is genius. I can't explain it

I have wondered if it represents a paradigm shift, similar to how the non sequiturs of Family Guy are a sticking point for a lot of comedy fans. Maybe a predilection for a modicum of dramatic consistency, avoidance of cliche, believability etc is nothing but a handicap that prevents the enjoyment of this innovative new style of tragicomedy, which combines extreme sentimentalism and violent cynicism in a way that satisfies others instinctively and on multiple levels. If you aren't simultaneously howling with laughter and keening cathartically with grief as Tony assaults a barman with his father's cremated genitals you're a stupid ugly fat coward who's stuck in the past and therefore don't understand kindness.
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Post by: kalowski on February 07, 2022, 10:21:38 PM
Quote from: Kenkun on February 06, 2022, 05:41:33 PMLimmy reviews After Life... a massively cathartic watch:


This is fucking amazing.
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Post by: bgmnts on February 07, 2022, 10:22:14 PM
King Limmy.
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Post by: idunnosomename on February 07, 2022, 10:34:47 PM
It's definitely conceived like a Hallmark movie to hit certain points for idiot consumers. sorry if that's punching down, but it is. it's really manipulative

and when Limmy finally gets the swimming clip (lol the fucking idiot who wastes his time), interesting to see it again. I could do that in Blender over raw footage in an afternoon, and i can barely use Blender (although I suspect it was done in After Effects). I reckon it's a still of her face keyframed over a model's body in 3D space, and it pivots at the end, and they put a blink in mid-shot. you can see the model's hair behind. it's fucking shockingly bad.
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on February 08, 2022, 12:53:02 AM
still one of the worst things I've ever seen, made all the funnier by Limmy shouting "Look at that!!" over it
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2022, 01:16:05 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on February 07, 2022, 10:34:47 PMand when Limmy finally gets the swimming clip (lol the fucking idiot who wastes his time)

"I'm not just looking for anybody in water."

Some people are just plain weird, aren't they?
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Post by: evilcommiedictator on February 08, 2022, 03:25:22 AM
AfterLife people watch The Big Bang Theory, and love how smart it makes them feel
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Post by: MrsWarboysLover on February 08, 2022, 06:22:54 AM
I'm just blown away that Limmy actually buys what Gervais said about the footage being real.
I can't wrap my head around it fooling anyone, tbh, but Limmy actually knows a lot about editing and videos and has insane focus on little details.
It's like showing someone the Vic and Bob "Faith" sketch, telling them that's really George Michael, and then they just believe it. You'd be worried for their sanity
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 08, 2022, 08:07:05 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on February 07, 2022, 10:34:47 PMIt's definitely conceived like a Hallmark movie to hit certain points for idiot consumers. sorry if that's punching down, but it is. it's really manipulative

and when Limmy finally gets the swimming clip (lol the fucking idiot who wastes his time), interesting to see it again. I could do that in Blender over raw footage in an afternoon, and i can barely use Blender (although I suspect it was done in After Effects). I reckon it's a still of her face keyframed over a model's body in 3D space, and it pivots at the end, and they put a blink in mid-shot. you can see the model's hair behind. it's fucking shockingly bad.
My own theory is that it was rushed and Kerry Godlimen probably kept pulling stupid faces cos she hadn't acclimated to the water and has no acting discipline. That being the case, I'd love to see how bad the footage looked before they "fixed" it
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2022, 08:39:47 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on February 08, 2022, 06:22:54 AMI'm just blown away that Limmy actually buys what Gervais said about the footage being real.
I can't wrap my head around it fooling anyone, tbh, but Limmy actually knows a lot about editing and videos and has insane focus on little details.
It's like showing someone the Vic and Bob "Faith" sketch, telling them that's really George Michael, and then they just believe it. You'd be worried for their sanity

At what point does Limmy suggest he believes the footage is real? His whole point is that it's an embarrassing fake. He openly mocks Gervais' disingenuous explanation. I'm baffled, you appear to have totally misunderstood the clip you've just watched.
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Post by: DrGreggles on February 08, 2022, 10:22:38 AM
His comparison with the Bodysnatchers dog is spot on.
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Post by: Jackson K Pollock on February 08, 2022, 10:54:51 AM
Facebook has recently started showing me Ricky Gervais' posts on Facebook for some reason (they've obviously been tracking my CaB activity and severely misinterpreting it) and it is insane how many people buy into the hype over this show.

Literally every single "Thanks so much for watching, folks - viewing figures are through the roof, Netflix are delighted, you guys are the best" post has 100k+ likes, with 100% fawning comments underneath (themselves often with over 1,000 likes) saying "you're the best, Ricky, I didn't know it was possible to watch TV and feel an emotion at the same time - you truly are a genius" and "I've never seen someone portray sadness/kindness/grief so realistically - you are a wonderful actor".

I mean how can this many people be this wrong about something?

It was genuinely cathartic to see Limmy's similar confusion, and at least take some comfort that we're not alone here on CaB.
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Post by: neveragain on February 08, 2022, 11:46:44 AM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2022, 08:39:47 AMAt what point does Limmy suggest he believes the footage is real? His whole point is that it's an embarrassing fake. He openly mocks Gervais' disingenuous explanation. I'm baffled, you appear to have totally misunderstood the clip you've just watched.

Yeah, Limmy is being disingenuous every time he mentions the light and the phone. Almost everything Limmy says has a sarcastic edge to it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on February 08, 2022, 11:58:38 AM
Quote from: Jackson K Pollock on February 08, 2022, 10:54:51 AM"you're the best, Ricky, I didn't know it was possible to watch TV and feel an emotion at the same time - you truly are a genius" and "I've never seen someone portray sadness/kindness/grief so realistically - you are a wonderful actor".

I mean how can this many people be this wrong about something?

He's put a lot of time and effort into making sure people go away thinking what he's told them to think. And fair play to him, it's worked really well. Not going to argue with people who enjoy the show and think he's a genius, though usually I find that we cannot reconcile what  happened in the show itself
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Post by: chip on February 08, 2022, 12:51:29 PM
I can't remember which of the several Gervais threads this was brought up in, but there's a line that I'm sure is either in this series or near the end of the second one which seems to state outright his character's (and possibly his own) uncomfortable sexlessness: where he's talking to Ashley Jensen, who he's been seeing(?) for a while, but she's getting bored and wants to move on, and he pleads his case to her by saying something (badly paraphrased) like:

"But why can't it just be that? You and me, sitting around, having a drink, watching TV, having a laugh - forever?"

I didn't dream that did I? Does he really signpost this nightmare scenario so blatantly? Please also just do SOMETHING that makes it out like you're actually physically attracted to this person, you bloomin weirdo.
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Post by: chip on February 08, 2022, 12:54:53 PM
It's honestly like wading through treacle trying to discern actual memories from this show. Utterly soporific
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: scarecrow on February 08, 2022, 04:11:51 PM
Quote from: phes on February 08, 2022, 11:58:38 AMHe's put a lot of time and effort into making sure people go away thinking what he's told them to think. And fair play to him, it's worked really well. Not going to argue with people who enjoy the show and think he's a genius, though usually I find that we cannot reconcile what  happened in the show itself
He has form for doing this as far back as Extras. I remember there being loads of interviews in which he asserted that the dynamic between him and the probably-actually-a-bit-racist golliwog owner was reminiscent of Laurel and Hardy. Cue several fawning reviews making this comparison. Bizarre that he got away with it. Not long after, he managed to convince certain quarters that some dogshit movie was up there with the Apartment...
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Post by: checkoutgirl on February 08, 2022, 04:31:13 PM
Quote from: Jackson K Pollock on February 08, 2022, 10:54:51 AMit is insane how many people buy into the hype over this show.

Somebody posted a comment along the lines of "I watched After Life and thought it was absolute rubbish and then saw all the people saying how brilliant it was and couldn't reconcile the two. So I finally came to the conclusion that After Life is in reality a funny, touching and really well made show and I've gone insane".
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Post by: checkoutgirl on February 08, 2022, 04:40:04 PM
Quote from: scarecrow on February 08, 2022, 04:11:51 PMwas reminiscent of Laurel and Hardy

He's been going on about Laurel and Hardy since The Office. That looking at the camera thing he and Tim did in The Office when they can't believe the idiocy taking place, pure Oliver Hardy aghast at Stan's blundering stupidity. It also subtly associates Gervais with the genius of Laurel and Hardy. He's always at this shit. Pontificating about his "craft" on Talking Funny. It's beyond belief.

He's constantly shaping the narrative in hundreds of interviews. This thing influenced me (insert 2 or 3 genius comedians), this is what the thing means. No, Derek isn't disabled because I said so. No you don't get to interpret Derek as the viewer and consumer, Derek is not disabled because I said so. Incidentally Derek was influenced by Goddard and the ancient art of the clown in early 20th century South America....blah blah blah...
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on February 08, 2022, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on February 08, 2022, 08:39:47 AMAt what point does Limmy suggest he believes the footage is real? His whole point is that it's an embarrassing fake. He openly mocks Gervais' disingenuous explanation. I'm baffled, you appear to have totally misunderstood the clip you've just watched.

https://youtu.be/DIy-8QbZMIU?t=505

at this point.

and several times afterwards.

i'm a big limmy fan so I feel like I can tell when he's being sincere or not, and I don't sense at all that he's being insincere here. I might be wrong though, and tbh, I hope I am.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 08, 2022, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on February 08, 2022, 04:40:04 PMHe's been going on about Laurel and Hardy since The Office. That looking at the camera thing he and Tim did in The Office when they can't believe the idiocy taking place, pure Oliver Hardy aghast at Stan's blundering stupidity. It also subtly associates Gervais with the genius of Laurel and Hardy. He's always at this shit.

I take it you saw this doing the rounds some years back?


Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 08, 2022, 06:17:58 PM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on February 08, 2022, 05:56:18 PMhttps://youtu.be/DIy-8QbZMIU?t=505

at this point.

and several times afterwards.

i'm a big limmy fan so I feel like I can tell when he's being sincere or not, and I don't sense at all that he's being insincere here. I might be wrong though, and tbh, I hope I am.
I got the impression Limmy is genuinely interested to try and analyse how a shot could end up looking like that without some sort of superimposition, but that he's 99% sure they just don't want to cop to incompetent monkey business. He's also maybe a bit hesitant to call Gervais and co. liars outright.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Mollusk on February 08, 2022, 06:45:39 PM
Couldn't be arsed with that Limmy review. Fair play to him he's obviously making bank off the streaming and whatever but how people can sit and watch someone vaguely talk about something for that length of time instead of it being condensed into an actual properly structured review is beyond me. His presenting (or whatever you call it) style is totally catered to that market now as well, overemphasising on the word SHITE over and over. Mate just get to the point.

Anyway.

Regarding the stuff mentioned above about people/journos lapping up anything Gervais says: I'm beginning to theorise he has genuinely warped the minds of people with the indiscernible line between the fictitious egotistical twat of David Brent and the real life egotistical twat of Ricky Gervais. People love to cringe at Brent but ahh he's only human we feel sorry for him sometimes. Same people then somehow see through the unmitigated waves of cringe of his subsequent output and only see the human being with good intentions at its core. Then he eventually reaches a point where he can sit on his high rock and go "God, yeah? Don't care, if I want to see a miracle I go out and look at a tree" and everyone goes FUCKING HELL MAN, HOW HAS NO ONE ELSE EVER SAID THIS STUFF BEFORE. Ironically it's a bit religious/cult leaderish.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on February 08, 2022, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on February 08, 2022, 08:07:05 AMMy own theory is that it was rushed and Kerry Godlimen probably kept pulling stupid faces cos she hadn't acclimated to the water and has no acting discipline. That being the case, I'd love to see how bad the footage looked before they "fixed" it

Bit harsh

Lob you in a lake, see how composed you are
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: g0m on February 09, 2022, 02:00:47 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on February 08, 2022, 06:17:58 PMI got the impression Limmy is genuinely interested to try and analyse how a shot could end up looking like that without some sort of superimposition, but that he's 99% sure they just don't want to cop to incompetent monkey business. He's also maybe a bit hesitant to call Gervais and co. liars outright.

didn't they show behind the scenes footage of that shot from a different angle? i'm pretty sure it turned out it was real
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on February 09, 2022, 02:39:31 AM
... it's not real.
I don't care what Gervais or his team says. It concerns me that anyone could think it's real.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on February 09, 2022, 07:42:44 AM
There was a long-distance photo that appeared to show Gervais and a sound man (I think) stood on a dock looking down at Kerry Godliman in a pond.

I absolutely do not believe the shot is just what Gervais managed to record on his iPhone. I can't say with 100% certainty what's actually going on, but I would bet all I own (which Gervais would be glad to point out is nothing compared to him) that it's not an organic shot of Kerry Godliman swimming in a pond.

The theory that she was actually pulling strange faces or unable to hold a convincing smile or whatever whilst swimming in the cold water makes sense and would explain why they altered it (poorly).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on February 09, 2022, 07:48:51 AM
She's a fine fine actor if she can swim through a cold lake without once changing her expression in any way, or breathing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: bushwick on February 09, 2022, 08:06:11 AM
Dunno if anybody has already made this comparison but it just struck me - Ricky's career reminds me of Kaiser Chiefs, ie ending up making money off/catering for the same members of the public who you once mocked/were bullied by, ie "mongs" or the rough townie lads that inspired I Predict A Riot.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Old Nehamkin on February 09, 2022, 08:17:44 AM
Quote from: The Mollusk on February 08, 2022, 06:45:39 PMCouldn't be arsed with that Limmy review. Fair play to him he's obviously making bank off the streaming and whatever but how people can sit and watch someone vaguely talk about something for that length of time instead of it being condensed into an actual properly structured review is beyond me. His presenting (or whatever you call it) style is totally catered to that market now as well, overemphasising on the word SHITE over and over. Mate just get to the point.

I dunno, to me he's talking in more or less the same style as he did on the streams he was doing on justin tv 10+ years ago. He's always been pretty rambly and meandering when he gets on a webcam, long before he was making any money off it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 08:41:36 AM
Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on February 08, 2022, 08:26:04 PMBit harsh

Lob you in a lake, see how composed you are
Eh? She your mate or something? And no, I absolutely wouldn't be composed, but by no coincidence I'm not an actor.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on February 09, 2022, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 08:41:36 AMEh? She your mate or something? And no, I absolutely wouldn't be composed, but by no coincidence I'm not an actor.

Sorry mate, don't know what came over me
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: wrec on February 09, 2022, 08:56:13 AM
Quote from: jobotic on February 09, 2022, 07:48:51 AMShe's a fine fine actor if she can swim through a cold lake without once changing her expression in any way, or breathing.

I don't think doing that shot for real would be physically possible, especially at the end when her head chillingly rotates on a two dimensional axis to maintain eye contact with him for some reason. I think that might be the key to the shot - Gervais wanted that bizarre extended devotional stare. Reminds me of Justin Lee Collins' insistence that his girlfriend slept facing him. Tony After (as I assume the character is called) made his terminally ill wife SWIM facing him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on February 09, 2022, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on February 09, 2022, 07:42:44 AMThere was a long-distance photo that appeared to show Gervais and a sound man (I think) stood on a dock looking down at Kerry Godliman in a pond.

I absolutely do not believe the shot is just what Gervais managed to record on his iPhone. I can't say with 100% certainty what's actually going on, but I would bet all I own (which Gervais would be glad to point out is nothing compared to him) that it's not an organic shot of Kerry Godliman swimming in a pond.

The theory that she was actually pulling strange faces or unable to hold a convincing smile or whatever whilst swimming in the cold water makes sense and would explain why they altered it (poorly).

That's it. the only question is whether gervais knows and he's lying, or whether he wasn't involved in the retouching and is just so stupid that he can't tell.
I would guess the former.

I feel like I'm in a bizzaro universe sometimes. Where Gervais makes Derek, and somehow people accept it and he doesn't have his reputation entirely ruined.

Or Gervais pulls a stunt like this, then people go "hmm nah maybe it's real."
He should become a laughing stock for telling people that this is real and expecting them to believe it, but somehow he gets away unscathed.

It's mental to use his favourite phrase


EDIT: to anyone somehow in doubt look at how the shadow and highlights in her hair stay frozen no matter where she is in the lake, or which direction her head 2 dimensionally swivels!
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on February 09, 2022, 08:53:47 AMSorry mate, don't know what came over me
For the record, I do like Godliman most of the time, and "no acting discipline" was an overstatement. I was just surprised to see her being defended so robustly, especially after all the shrapnel she got hit with in the Derek threads.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on February 09, 2022, 09:24:00 AM
Quote from: wrec on February 09, 2022, 08:56:13 AMTony After (as I assume the character is called) made his terminally ill wife SWIM facing him.

His character is called Tony Griefkind
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 09:24:09 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on February 09, 2022, 08:56:29 AMThat's it. the only question is whether gervais knows and he's lying, or whether he wasn't involved in the retouching and is just so stupid that he can't tell.
I would guess the former.

I feel like I'm in a bizzaro universe sometimes. Where Gervais makes Derek, and somehow people accept it and he doesn't have his reputation entirely ruined.

Or Gervais pulls a stunt like this, then people go "hmm nah maybe it's real."
He should become a laughing stock for telling people that this is real and expecting them to believe it, but somehow he gets away unscathed.

It's mental to use his favourite phrase


EDIT: to anyone somehow in doubt look at how the shadow and highlights in her hair stay frozen no matter where she is in the lake, or which direction her head 2 dimensionally swivels!

This is why people are having trouble deciding which explanation gets sliced by Occam's razor. I look at that shot and both my non-expert head and heart tell me they've mucked around with it. But that they'd settle for such a shoddy job and be at pains to deny it is just so bloody strange. Like I said above, I really want to see the raw footage, because honestly what could be worse than that?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on February 09, 2022, 09:25:07 AM
My money is on it's altered footage. It's clearly a "that'll do" rush-job that people picked up on because it's a horrendous march down Uncanny Valley.

But Gervais cannot cop to it because as writer/actor/director/imagineer he would have to admit he had failed in some way, which is something he is incapable of doing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on February 09, 2022, 09:26:58 AM
Quote from: MrsWarboysLover on February 09, 2022, 08:56:29 AMEDIT: to anyone somehow in doubt look at how the shadow and highlights in her hair stay frozen no matter where she is in the lake, or which direction her head 2 dimensionally swivels!

Time to get the lads from Corridor Digital on it from their series SFX Artists React. It's the kind of oddity they like.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on February 09, 2022, 10:00:03 AM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 09:12:33 AMFor the record, I do like Godliman most of the time, and "no acting discipline" was an overstatement. I was just surprised to see her being defended so robustly, especially after all the shrapnel she got hit with in the Derek threads.

Yea sorry I was acting flippantly you a clearly flippant post, unnecessary.

 same, godliman is ace, shame to see her and gittins and key slumming it
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lipsink on February 09, 2022, 10:07:14 AM
My favourite bit of the Limmy video is:

"Little back light there"
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Brundle-Fly on February 09, 2022, 10:22:30 AM
Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on February 09, 2022, 10:00:03 AMYea sorry I was acting flippantly you a clearly flippant post, unnecessary.

 same, godliman is ace, shame to see her and gittins and key slumming it

Slumming it? Working with Gervais on Derek and After Life would have their agents grinning from ear to ear.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DrGreggles on February 09, 2022, 10:25:15 AM
Quote from: g0m on February 09, 2022, 02:00:47 AMdidn't they show behind the scenes footage of that shot from a different angle? i'm pretty sure it turned out it was real

It's clearly not real.
Just because there was a photo of them filming something, it doesn't mean they didn't fuck around with it later.
Maybe the footage was shit or you couldn't see her face or something, so they 'fixed' it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on February 09, 2022, 10:40:52 AM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on February 09, 2022, 10:22:30 AMSlumming it? Working with Gervais on Derek and After Life would have their agents grinning from ear to ear.

Yea I guess I'm being a bit of a snob here

I certainly wouldn't turn down working on any tv show, not even a rubs one
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on February 09, 2022, 11:41:57 AM
Quote from: frajer on February 09, 2022, 09:25:07 AMMy money is on it's altered footage. It's clearly a "that'll do" rush-job that people picked up on because it's a horrendous march down Uncanny Valley.

But Gervais cannot cop to it because as writer/actor/director/imagineer he would have to admit he had failed in some way, which is something he is incapable of doing.

Yeah it's this.

Assuming it's a stunt double they put Godliman's face on in post and hoped no one would notice because it's astonishing the things people don't notice when they're not looking for it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on February 09, 2022, 11:49:25 AM
For the record, I also doubt it was taken on his phone and that very convenient photo of him doing it at the time.

The zoom distance on anything further than 5ft away is terrible using a phone camera. Separately, it doesn't particularly look like phone footage (it's not a VHS effect or grainy or whatever) so that would suggest he's just filming bits of a show for Netflix on his phone because it's what he had and it's a big budget production not Robot Chicken.

It was a set-up camera shot with a body double (maybe set up and approved by a unit chief rather than the Rickmaster General if we're being generous) and the hasty editing was done because it's more hassle to go out and film it again and no one will notice.

Alternative (equally plausible), gervais decided he wanted that shot after filming ended so they went back and got that footage, but had to use a stand-in for Godliman - this is less likely because it suggests that level of slapdash production was baked into the shot, though I wouldn't put it past him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Chollis on February 09, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/rMCAQyz.png)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on February 09, 2022, 12:18:48 PM
That's not trick film.  She's just a microcephalic who covered her face while getting an all-over tan.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Better Midlands on February 09, 2022, 12:41:16 PM
Quote from: Ferris on February 09, 2022, 11:49:25 AMAlternative (equally plausible), gervais decided he wanted that shot after filming ended so they went back and got that footage, but had to use a stand-in for Godliman - this is less likely because it suggests that level of slapdash production was baked into the shot, though I wouldn't put it past him.

I'm sure I read that the shot was done at the end/after completion of filming when it was first questioned.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on February 09, 2022, 01:26:13 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on February 09, 2022, 12:41:16 PMI'm sure I read that the shot was done at the end/after completion of filming when it was first questioned.

So the official narrative is they wanted that footage after they'd finished the main shoot, so they went to the trouble of scheduling an extra day's filming, got Kerry Godliman to come and swim in a lake for 5 seconds, then the Rickster filmed it on his phone? And saw that footage and said "yep perfect no need for an additional take or to move slightly to the right when shooting it."

Or

They wanted the extra footage, so sent a two person crew and a stunt double to get the shots and agreed they'd fix it in post because who cares no one will notice (until someone did).

Scenario 2 quite a bit more convincing.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Ferris on February 09, 2022, 01:26:13 PMSo the official narrative is they wanted that footage after they'd finished the main shoot, so they went to the trouble of scheduling an extra day's filming, got Kerry Godliman to come and swim in a lake for 5 seconds, then the Rickster filmed it on his phone? And saw that footage and said "yep perfect no need for an additional take or to move slightly to the right when shooting it."
Putting aside how implausible it is to get those visuals without tampering with the footage, I have absolutely no problem believing Gervais would do this
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on February 09, 2022, 01:34:47 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 01:32:19 PMPutting aside how implausible it is to get those visuals without tampering with the footage, I have absolutely no problem believing Gervais would do this

...fair point.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: QDRPHNC on February 09, 2022, 02:20:09 PM
If it is Kerry Godliman, she's wearing a cardboard cut-out mask of her own face attached to the top of her head with an elastic band.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: lb99 on February 09, 2022, 02:25:56 PM
My theory is that they've bumped up the brightness on her face in the grade and it now stands out too much against her skin in the murky water. In most shots (even properly shot professional ones) the colourist will subtly increase the brightness on actors' faces to draw the viewers eye to them. I think because the footage was poor quality in the first place, and she's swimming in murky water, the colourist has boosted the brightness on the face but did it a little too much so it feels disconnected from the scene around her.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Bunty Levert on February 09, 2022, 02:53:36 PM
The unnatural "maintaining eye contact while forcing a constant smile and swimming towards the best, most nicest and well-written man in the entire universe" expression alone pushes it into the uncanny valley.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 09, 2022, 03:02:19 PM
Quote from: lb99 on February 09, 2022, 02:25:56 PMMy theory is that they've bumped up the brightness on her face in the grade and it now stands out too much against her skin in the murky water. In most shots (even properly shot professional ones) the colourist will subtly increase the brightness on actors' faces to draw the viewers eye to them. I think because the footage was poor quality in the first place, and she's swimming in murky water, the colourist has boosted the brightness on the face but did it a little too much so it feels disconnected from the scene around her.

Fair enough but it also looks like there's dark (or wet and underexposed) hair poking out behind her blond hair on one side, like a bad crop.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 09, 2022, 03:07:05 PM
'interestingly' I was rewatching the clip with Neil Fitzmaurice getting sacked in the original office the other day and noticed someone in the comments had mentioned at a certain point they'd held a shot with Gervais by subtly playing it forwards then backwards. Probably to clip off Gervais corpsing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAnIOCIBFR4&t=94s
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 03:15:22 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on February 09, 2022, 03:02:19 PMFair enough but it also looks like there's dark (or wet and underexposed) hair poking out behind her blond hair on one side, like a bad crop.
I assumed that was from amping up the contrast (whether it's a pasted-on image or not). Notice the shadows on the blond section look like little streams of treacle running through her hair.

Something I've not seen anyone comment on is that "she" blinks a couple of times and it looks just like when you see a demonstration of one of those hyper-realistic robots/androids/whatever. Uncanny Valley indeed.

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ferris on February 09, 2022, 03:16:59 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on February 09, 2022, 03:07:05 PM'interestingly' I was rewatching the clip with Neil Fitzmaurice getting sacked in the original office the other day and noticed someone in the comments had mentioned at a certain point they'd held a shot with Gervais by subtly playing it forwards then backwards. Probably to clip off Gervais corpsing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAnIOCIBFR4&t=94s

That's really good! I'd never noticed before.

I imagine every show is full of little patches and tweaks like this. Like I say - Joe public isn't looking for these things when watching along so you can probably get away with quite a lot. The dodgy shot in After Life was probably a step too far.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on February 09, 2022, 03:36:49 PM
whenever I rewatch that clip looking for "clues" i think fine it does look like it could have been shot on a phone, but that definitely doesn't explain that fucking jpeg face hovering across the water.

Quote from: Bunty Levert on February 09, 2022, 02:53:36 PMThe unnatural "maintaining eye contact while forcing a constant smile and swimming towards the best, most nicest and well-written man in the entire universe" expression alone pushes it into the uncanny valley.

this is the thing. even with the money being thrown at the show they let this hilarious shot stay in to keep with this Gervaisian fantasy world.

It obviously wasn't enough for Gervais to just show dead wife swimming, perhaps looking up with a brief smile. (or anxious glance to make sure the nicest, most hilarious man on earth isn't about to piss on her/hurl an unopened can of carling at her head while cackling)

No, for us to really understand how wonderful Ricky Tony is, she has to have a smile fixed on her the entire time she passes and twists her neck. Staring up with the simple, unconditional adoration of a dog. That's definitely how normal people interact with their partners.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Blue Jam on February 09, 2022, 04:21:26 PM
Her hair is dry and her make-up is perfect. That's enough for me.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on February 09, 2022, 04:21:26 PMHer hair is dry and her make-up is perfect. That's enough for me.
I go wild swimming a fair bit and when the water's really cold, I instinctively keep everything from my chin up above the surface like my head's wired to a rail. So the dry hair and made-up face is the least of it imo.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Beep Cleep Chimney on February 09, 2022, 04:55:33 PM
Quote from: Chollis on February 09, 2022, 12:04:59 PM(https://i.imgur.com/rMCAQyz.png)
For Christ's sake, you can clearly see the "real" swimmer's black hair (or black swimming cap) sticking out under the Godlimask. 
That ain't a shadow.
(https://i.ibb.co/pJX10KF/afterlife.png)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on February 09, 2022, 04:56:56 PM
That was the best bit in three series of After Life
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rolf Lundgren on February 09, 2022, 04:57:10 PM
They could have just cut out the flashback and nothing would have been lost. Tony standing looking depressed by the water and we would have got that he was thinking about his dead wife because he spends every five minutes telling us about his dead wife.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on February 09, 2022, 05:10:43 PM
did someone do a Mulholland Drive diner edit with the face? feel like surely that's something I missed in an old thread
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: Beep Cleep Chimney on February 09, 2022, 04:55:33 PMFor Christ's sake, you can clearly see the "real" swimmer's black hair (or black swimming cap) sticking out under the Godlimask. 
That ain't a shadow.
(https://i.ibb.co/pJX10KF/afterlife.png)
Quote from: Beep Cleep Chimney on February 09, 2022, 04:55:33 PMFor Christ's sake, you can clearly see the "real" swimmer's black hair (or black swimming cap) sticking out under the Godlimask. 
That ain't a shadow.
(https://i.ibb.co/pJX10KF/afterlife.png)
Like I said above, you could get that effect just by upping the contrast. Like I also said above, notice the less-lit parts of the blonde section have been turned into pitch black worms.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: DrGreggles on February 09, 2022, 05:31:24 PM
Her face is too far to the right of her head.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on February 09, 2022, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 05:17:15 PMLike I said above, you could get that effect just by upping the contrast. Like I also said above, notice the less-lit parts of the blonde section have been turned into pitch black worms.

If the colourist spent the time to create a tracking mask over her head to increase the brightness, there is no way they would've left it as uneven as that. It also wouldn't explain the other weird things about it: the lack of any facial movement, the 2D pivot it does towards the end, the blinking seeming manipulated.

It's not even a blue dress/gold dress sort of thing - we all agree it looks weird and unnatural. I think it would be a real challenge to make organic footage of a human look so strange even if you were trying to.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AVSoPCrkJxo/XECTHwQaHpI/AAAAAAAAvMI/rce9M7KBaVcjqklKv_eztlGUQjFb43jPQCLcBGAs/s1600/WOT%2BHeader.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on February 09, 2022, 06:01:22 PMIf the colourist spent the time to create a tracking mask over her head to increase the brightness, there is no way they would've left it as uneven as that. It also wouldn't explain the other weird things about it: the lack of any facial movement, the 2D pivot it does towards the end, the blinking seeming manipulated.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AVSoPCrkJxo/XECTHwQaHpI/AAAAAAAAvMI/rce9M7KBaVcjqklKv_eztlGUQjFb43jPQCLcBGAs/s1600/WOT%2BHeader.jpg)
Just to be clear, I wasn't wittering on about contrast to support the idea that what we are seeing isn't a superimposition of some sort, just that I think it's the explanation for why it looks like there's someone else's hair sticking out from behind the "mask".

On the "if X spent the time to do Y then why not also do Z?" point, couldn't you say that about just about any aspect of the shot's production (bearing in mind I might have misunderstood you here)?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Noodle Lizard on February 09, 2022, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: Jumblegraws on February 09, 2022, 06:51:00 PMOn the "if X spent the time to do Y then why not also do Z?" point, couldn't you say that about just about any aspect of the shot's production (bearing in mind I might have misunderstood you here)?

No, that's exactly it. Which is why I suspect it might have been a complete superimposition without the material to work with. Face replacement can be done well (I think it's quite common now, especially with stunts), but it would need to be properly planned for, with dedicated "face footage" for just that shot.

My final guess is that they did get the shot with Kerry in the lake, then in the edit Gervais (or whoever) didn't like the way it looked (perhaps it cut from him gazing ponderously with the MOTR indie music and then cut to a clearly uncomfortable Kerry struggling to keep her teeth from chattering as she swam), and to manipulate a still image over it was an ill-informed fix suggestion from either Gervais or a producer that they didn't back down from even when it ended up looking (predictably) shit. Happens more often than you'd think, but this is a particularly noticeable/laughable example.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on February 09, 2022, 08:09:31 PM
The fat arms may be caused by the light refracting but to me they don't look like the arms of Kerry Godliman
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 09, 2022, 08:15:21 PM
I'll be honest I'm not confident I could identify Kerry Godliman's arms in a line-up.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Captain Z on February 09, 2022, 08:19:41 PM
Bit of a tangent, but Ricky Gervais was an unselected answer on Pointless yesterday. The final lady of the round said "I can picture his face but I'm not a big fan of him, so I can't remember his name", which made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on February 09, 2022, 08:24:14 PM
wouldn't want to be her logging on to twitter last night.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neardark on February 09, 2022, 09:13:31 PM
It's obvious that the face is from a different source to the rest of the shot - even in that low-res Limmy screenshot posted on the previous page you can see the sharpness of it compared to the water.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kngen on February 09, 2022, 10:57:12 PM
has anyone run it through those DeepFake detection programs?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: MrsWarboysLover on February 10, 2022, 05:47:18 AM
Quote from: kngen on February 09, 2022, 10:57:12 PMhas anyone run it through those DeepFake detection programs?

ffs i cannot comprehend why people would entertain it being real for even a split second. you can see from the still images its a fake, let alone the video.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on February 10, 2022, 09:56:10 AM
i can even imagine Kerry Godliman telling Gervais to fuck off when he asked her to swim in that lake. the scene is just a gift to this thread.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 10, 2022, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: kngen on February 09, 2022, 10:57:12 PMhas anyone run it through those DeepFake detection programs?

I reckon it might actually pass one of those since the artefacts it's probably looking for are specfic to the deepfake algorithms (which are way more convincing than this cut and paste job).
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on February 10, 2022, 11:46:58 AM
This is a ShallowFake. Where instead of building a dynamic simulation of an individuals face by feeding thousands of images into AI algorithms, you have a single picture of a face and make it blink once
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on February 10, 2022, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on February 10, 2022, 11:46:58 AMThis is a ShallowFake.

Think we've found Gervais' new project.

Tom Shallow doesn't know why other people do things differently to him, and isn't afraid to say so!! They're such fakes. Well I say he doesn't know, but he does know, because he's really brainy. And strong. Used to be a boxer probably. Still could be if he wanted.

After six episodes of encountering various fakes, Tom realises that he was right all along and has the last laugh. The end. Oh and he has a dog, that bit's crucial. Plus did I mention he was muscly as well as smart?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on February 10, 2022, 02:07:04 PM
I think even though he is a very strong man and so good at boxing he should also be good at all other sports. His catchphrase could be "play some sports" to signal the end of a thing before another thing starts in the programme.


Edit - can be introduced at any point over 18 episodes and unconnected to anything that has happened so far. Don't worry about thinking it through up front.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: up_the_hampipe on February 10, 2022, 02:45:37 PM
After Life is so dense with gags you might miss some, but don't worry Ricky will point them out for you https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1491482947307847682?s=21

Might be the most half-arsed background gag I've ever seen. They didn't even write the article.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on February 10, 2022, 05:41:01 PM
Quote from: up_the_hampipe on February 10, 2022, 02:45:37 PMAfter Life is so dense with gags you might miss some, but don't worry Ricky will point them out for you https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1491482947307847682?s=21

Might be the most half-arsed background gag I've ever seen. They didn't even write the article.
What is the gag?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on February 10, 2022, 06:03:50 PM
Quote from: frajer on February 10, 2022, 01:35:15 PMhe was muscly

Why?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on February 10, 2022, 06:41:31 PM
Quote from: kalowski on February 10, 2022, 05:41:01 PMWhat is the gag?

Gervais crowing about "attention to detail" while posting a picture of a prop newspaper with Lorem Ipsum text.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Dr Rock on February 10, 2022, 06:44:06 PM
My bet on his next series, base on his laziness, will necessitate filming in Hampstead where he lives. What shops are in Hampstead? Art Galleries. Bookshops. Charity Shops. I guarantee his next shitty series will be set in one of those locations.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on February 10, 2022, 06:45:40 PM
Quote from: olliebean on February 10, 2022, 06:41:31 PMGervais crowing about "attention to detail" while posting a picture of a prop newspaper with Lorem Ipsum text.

haha yes...
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: paruses on February 10, 2022, 06:48:38 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on February 10, 2022, 06:03:50 PMWhy?

Don't you worry about why.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on February 10, 2022, 07:07:57 PM
Attention to detail? What is Ricky smoking? This is attention to detail, they wrote the full article.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/675087231a302ce41697aecf1d75035d/tumblr_p7tu9doCjZ1slch00o2_r1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on February 10, 2022, 07:09:49 PM
Just noticed Ricky blocked me on twitter. Shouldn't have posted that Limmy video I suppose. Bit sad he searches for his own name though...
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Video Game Fan 2000 on February 10, 2022, 08:42:27 PM
I can't imagine its doing great things to his ego to have to tweet shit like "some angels have four legs :heartemoji:" when we know he's a comedy auteur on the level of Shandling and David.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on February 10, 2022, 08:47:21 PM
Cannot believe how shit and nothing-y that headline is, relative to how proud he is of it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on February 10, 2022, 09:43:26 PM
People thought at the time that the swimming bit was him superimposing his dead wife's face on a random swimmer as he thought of her wistfully. Fucking cringey but at least it makes sense. Then Gervais says it's all natural. He could have got away with it.

Actually he has got away with it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on February 10, 2022, 10:23:30 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on February 10, 2022, 08:47:21 PMCannot believe how shit and nothing-y that headline is, relative to how proud he is of it.

Still doing the oldies havin sex lol
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: neardark on February 10, 2022, 11:53:54 PM
I wonder what his partner thinks of Afterlife considering she's a successful author. He should co-write with her.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on February 11, 2022, 08:50:50 AM
To be fair, he did put a laughing emoji after the "attention to detail" tweet, so it's possible he was being sarcastic and was actually saying "Look at how half-arsed we got away with making this prop from my show, lol."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on February 11, 2022, 10:47:53 AM
Quote from: neardark on February 10, 2022, 11:53:54 PMI wonder what his partner thinks of Afterlife considering she's a successful author. He should co-write with her.
probably just farts in her face instead
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: jobotic on February 11, 2022, 11:18:58 AM
..which makes her giggle and then gaze devotedly at him.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ImmaculateClump on February 11, 2022, 03:19:59 PM
Wow! It's in latin an' all. I bet Ricky just tossed that off during his fag break. I bet it's full of all intellectual jokes for the nerds that know how to pause netflix.
Cry laughing just thinking about it.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Hat FM on February 16, 2022, 01:56:14 PM
having only watched the first series of this i never realised the paper Gervais works for is free. so a free paper for a small village? how do all the people in that office get paid? the local newsagent advertising?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on February 16, 2022, 01:59:19 PM
Ricky Gervais doesnt understand how the real world works and that local newspapers basically dont exist anymore beyond online clickbait saturated with adverts owned mostly by one massive corporation.

Might as well interrogate the social economics of Trumpton really
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ron Superior on February 17, 2022, 08:20:20 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned in the thread already but I just remembered this this morning.

In one of the Office making of videos, Ricky gave a demonstration of an old character of his called Fat Queer. To summon the character of Fat Queer he put on Stephen's glasses, put on a sort of mincing face and said things like "ooh" and "you're very nice". Can't find any video of it though. Sure I didn't dream it.

Maybe that can be Ricky's next project. He's a gay man, but actually very nice. Everyone else is an idiot etc.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on February 17, 2022, 08:33:49 PM
On radio he had crappy joke characters Camp David (gay) and Ho Lee Fuk (Chinaman). He does all the characters.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on February 17, 2022, 08:47:14 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on February 17, 2022, 08:33:49 PMOn radio he had crappy joke characters Camp David (gay) and Ho Lee Fuk (Chinaman). He does all the characters.
Surely not. Had he not seen Partridge?
"Hello Camp David!"
"Well hello Alan."
"What did you have for breakfast this morning?"
"Oooo mince."
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on February 17, 2022, 08:48:48 PM
Ho Le Fuk got another airing in the David Brent film as well.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on February 17, 2022, 08:53:24 PM
Quote from: kalowski on February 17, 2022, 08:47:14 PMSurely not. Had he not seen Partridge?
"Hello Camp David!"
"Well hello Alan."
"What did you have for breakfast this morning?"
"Oooo mince."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlGqZzoEM0A
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: toetoe on February 17, 2022, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on February 17, 2022, 08:33:49 PMCamp David (gay)

A predatory gay, if i remember the descripton correctly
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on February 17, 2022, 09:24:13 PM
He also did a character called "Gavid Gray, the right bent queer" on the XFM show, I believe?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on February 17, 2022, 09:24:55 PM
Oh and a gay character called Graham on the podcasts, to make Karl feel uncomfortable.

Not to mention numerous "what would you do if a gay rapist with aids wanted to have sex with your corpse after your die" scenarios
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: OpenMikeKnight on February 17, 2022, 10:05:47 PM
Quote from: Ron Superior on February 17, 2022, 08:20:20 PMNot sure if it's been mentioned in the thread already but I just remembered this this morning.

In one of the Office making of videos, Ricky gave a demonstration of an old character of his called Fat Queer. To summon the character of Fat Queer he put on Stephen's glasses, put on a sort of mincing face and said things like "ooh" and "you're very nice". Can't find any video of it though. Sure I didn't dream it.

Maybe that can be Ricky's next project. He's a gay man, but actually very nice. Everyone else is an idiot etc.

It was the Extras DVD Extras:
https://youtu.be/2NtF8PmQbgw
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on February 17, 2022, 10:09:28 PM
Quote from: Mobius on February 17, 2022, 09:24:55 PM"what would you do if a gay rapist with aids wanted to have sex with your corpse after your die"

I'd say we gotta join BUPA.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Two Headed Sex Beast on February 17, 2022, 11:03:59 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on February 17, 2022, 08:48:48 PMHo Le Fuk got another airing in the David Brent film as well.

And when he meets Michael in the US Office
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on February 18, 2022, 11:39:38 AM
Quote from: Two Headed Sex Beast on February 17, 2022, 11:03:59 PMAnd when he meets Michael in the US Office

I remember that and enjoyed the initial bizarreness of seeing them together, but Gervais is all over the fucking shop.

Also his crowbarred-in use of "that's what she said" makes zero sense.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Schnapple on February 18, 2022, 04:07:35 PM
Quote from: OpenMikeKnight on February 17, 2022, 10:05:47 PMIt was the Extras DVD Extras:
https://youtu.be/2NtF8PmQbgw

I remember this bit clearly ('DOQ', to be more specific), and although I can't stand Gervais these days, I must admit that I still found it quite funny within the context of Steve calling out Ricky's 'range'.

"Extraordinary, it's like being in a room with Peter Sellers!"

I still enjoy seeing them at this stage, before the rot really set in. I recently listened to both their appearances on the Wernham Blogg podcast, and Steve was generous and thoughtful in a way that Ricky, who just steamrolled through with the anecdotes and self-celebration he's been peddling for years now, most definitely wasn't.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on February 18, 2022, 07:57:56 PM
Probably not the first to say this but there's no chance of me ever watching another Gervais thing again but I LOVE this fucking thread.


(actually I do quite like his Golden Globe presenting bits, but that's it. I didn't even like Extras. And the podcast is unlistenable now)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: checkoutgirl on February 18, 2022, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: Schnapple on February 18, 2022, 04:07:35 PMI must admit that I still found it quite funny within the context of Steve calling out Ricky's 'range'.

That self deprecation seems to be absent from his many interviews these days. I'm not sure if it's him, the interviewers being more deferential or the complete absence of Merchant to bring him down to Earth, or a combination of them. I watched him on that Geordie podcast and they were talking about how great After Life is with a completely straight face. I could stand about 10 minutes of that.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on February 18, 2022, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on February 18, 2022, 08:16:19 PMthat Geordie podcast

Sounds fucking terrible.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: poodlefaker on March 03, 2022, 09:40:25 PM
Just caught a bit of this for the first time ever. Two gags about prostitutes in five minutes. Man walks dog to sad music.
It's shit, innit?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: GolazoDan on March 04, 2022, 07:46:35 PM
I watched all of this a few weeks ago at the recommendation of a few family members who fall into the pro-After Life crowd. Every time I had to try and explain why I loved the old podcasts so much (like, all time favourites that I still like to revisit) but can't stand this version of Gervais.

Thank god for these threads, my opinions are going to echo many that have come before. My constant thought was: this wants to be emotional and genuine but it's pretending to be those things. It's pretending to have a soul. No amount of dog scenes or licensed tracks or great supporting performances can fix that.

That really stood out because I started watching Detectorists on iPlayer as my next series and that won me over so quickly. It's not a laugh a minute but I like spending time with those characters and it's very warm, just two blokes with a hobby that helps them get through their troubles. Within 3 episodes I was on board. Never really got on board after 3 seasons of After Life.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: dead-ced-dead on March 04, 2022, 07:49:17 PM
I can't help but think that Gervais pinched a lot of the surface elements from Detectorists.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on March 04, 2022, 09:31:19 PM
I doubt he's ever seen Detectorists. I don't get the impression that Ricky Gervais engages with anything apart from whatever pops into his head while churning something out to a deadline.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: BritishHobo on March 04, 2022, 09:48:23 PM
I feel like if After Life featured some detectorists, they would be pathetic, pitiable freaks, a couple of stereotypical weirdos that Tony would recoil from while forced to do an article about how one of them, Paedo Alan, dug up some false teeth which belong to an old man who dropped them because he saw a fat woman and was really shocked about how fat she was.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on March 04, 2022, 09:56:03 PM
Might as well show a dog a card trick.

A dog that then gets walked for 18 hours a day while its owner calls people cunts.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on March 04, 2022, 11:23:47 PM
would like to see him play the revolting character for once. Should be easy since he spends his day taking photos with his mouth open and spunkin' on dogs
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on March 05, 2022, 08:29:15 AM
In what sense is Tony in After Life not a revolting character?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: phes on March 05, 2022, 08:43:57 AM
Quote from: olliebean on March 05, 2022, 08:29:15 AMIn what sense is Tony in After Life not a revolting character?

Tony isn't intended to be the revolting character, he's just sad and misunderstood. Basically a hero
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ImmaculateClump on March 05, 2022, 02:23:18 PM
Haha, yeah, he's the everyman we're all supposed to relate to, I'm afraid.

If you think he's revolting, maybe you need your empathy chip recalibrated! Do I have to remind you that his wife died three years ago?!

Let's see how much of a revolting, self pitying, self absorbed brat you become when your wife dies, shall we? Let's see how long it is before you shake off swaggering around parks with your collar up, squinting at the distance, looking all cool and broody. Let's see how long it takes for you to stop bullying your work colleagues, downing bottles of wine and smoking big heroin biftas.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Cuellar on March 05, 2022, 02:58:43 PM
And killing the homeless
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: ImmaculateClump on March 05, 2022, 04:24:18 PM
Come on now. That was an act of pure kindness from one lost soul to another.
The junkie needed enough money to buy enough drugs to finally take the pain away forever.
Gentle Ricky doesn't pry or judge. He asks what a brother needs right now, and he helps them get it.
He understood his plight. The world can't be any worse with less pain in it.

Oh, hang on ... Do homeless junkies have relatives that might grieve them?
Oh, Ricky. What have you done!

(https://i.imgur.com/p7QuuHT.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on March 13, 2022, 10:32:00 AM
This popped up in the replies of Gervais' self congratulation about his "tubby little ginger cunt" scene

https://twitter.com/MCFCDANLEE/status/1502765521418297346

Deso
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on March 13, 2022, 01:40:40 PM
Take it from me, having a go at a ginger kid or indeed a fat one has fuck all to do with social etiquette or not caring about consequences. The only two groups of people it's - arguably. And I'd argue it - considered perfectly okay to say absolutely anything about without any consequences at all. I've never been overweight incidentally and it's only very recently that 'fat-shaming' has become a thing but you can still generally get away with insulting tubby people.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on March 13, 2022, 01:48:26 PM
Quote from: Jockice on March 13, 2022, 01:40:40 PMTake it from me, having a go at a ginger kid or indeed a fat one has fuck all to do with social etiquette or not caring about consequences. The only two groups of people it's - arguably. And I'd argue it - considered perfectly okay to say absolutely anything about without any consequences at all. I've never been overweight incidentally and it's only very recently that 'fat-shaming' has become a thing but you can still generally get away with insulting tubby people.

I can also recall skinny kid at school, including me, getting called 'snap.'
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Jockice on March 13, 2022, 01:54:30 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on March 13, 2022, 01:48:26 PMI can also recall skinny kid at school, including me, getting called 'snap.'

Fair enough. I was no heavyweight myself. And a friend of mine got called Skeletor cos he was so skinny. Although Skeletor himself isn't.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Menu on March 13, 2022, 03:54:09 PM
Fat-shaming Skeletor now is it?
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on March 13, 2022, 03:55:54 PM
Ricky is like skeletor in a black t shirt
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: earl_sleek on March 13, 2022, 07:12:05 PM
Skeletor is rather hench, especially for a skellington.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: olliebean on March 13, 2022, 08:13:11 PM
"Twiggy" here, though only by one person.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 13, 2022, 08:17:13 PM
ginger kid deserved it the cunt
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: kalowski on March 13, 2022, 08:55:54 PM
"The rib" for many years.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Vroomo on March 22, 2022, 08:55:14 AM
Limmy's After Life review got 5 stars from Stewart Lee in his latest newsletter.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Mobius on March 22, 2022, 10:53:46 PM
If anyone is interested, this bloke on youtube who has done good Peep Show and other comedy videos in the past has done a review of After Life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjbdSu9vV0

Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: The Ombudsman on March 23, 2022, 08:38:31 AM
Quote from: Mobius on March 22, 2022, 10:53:46 PMIf anyone is interested, this bloke on youtube who has done good Peep Show and other comedy videos in the past has done a review of After Life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjbdSu9vV0



That came up in the recommendations for me last night. Watched it, seemed to sum up everyone's feelings on this thread quite well I thought. The bit about him being so two-dimensional is so very true. I recently watched all the RG back catalogue and you could clip any of the bits into any other of his films and it wouldn't look out of place, with the exception of Brent.

There are other actors out there will limited capability but somehow can pull it off, perhaps as they are aware of their limitations or just do that one character really well. Thinking of Johna Hill for example. Don't think Ricky is one of them.

Still, very curious as to what the next highly acclaimed shit piece Gervais will regurgitate next.
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on March 23, 2022, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: Mobius on March 22, 2022, 10:53:46 PMIf anyone is interested, this bloke on youtube who has done good Peep Show and other comedy videos in the past has done a review of After Life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjbdSu9vV0



Excellent
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: frajer on March 29, 2022, 07:44:22 PM
Enjoyed this:

(https://i.imgur.com/Wxo6dcr.jpg)
Title: Re: Ricky Gervais's After Life series 3 [split topic]
Post by: idunnosomename on April 01, 2022, 06:18:42 PM
Thats just a funny joke really imo

edit nm i thought this was the April Fools thread. so yes. lol.