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The Queen's Gambit

Started by cacciaguida, October 25, 2020, 10:17:32 PM

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Hand Solo

Does the show have Yul Brynner in it?

The character is clearly based on Fischer, so I'm looking forward to later series where she joins a religious cult, goes into years in hiding and becomes rabidly anti-Semitic before moving to Iceland. Apparently Fischer was once arrested while walking around during the break in a chess match for fitting the description of a bank robber, but then he'd probably say it had been organised by the Soviets.

Fischer played so much chess he used to dream of chess moves. How boring would that be?

Mr_Simnock

Quote from: Nobody Soup on November 18, 2020, 12:34:48 AM
Lads, might be the time to ask if anyone plays on lichess. Pm me for my profile

I play on lichess, it's the nest free site around I reckon, the hourly bullet tournys are excellent

touchingcloth

Quote from: Hand Solo on November 18, 2020, 11:20:01 AM
Does the show have Yul Brynner in it?

The character is clearly based on Fischer, so I'm looking forward to later series where she joins a religious cult, goes into years in hiding and becomes rabidly anti-Semitic before moving to Iceland. Apparently Fischer was once arrested while walking around during the break in a chess match for fitting the description of a bank robber, but then he'd probably say it had been organised by the Soviets.

Fischer played so much chess he used to dream of chess moves. How boring would that be?

Ha, if Morphy was the pride and sorrow of the game then Fischer was just the sorrow.

They could totally make a second series based around the Fischer-Spassky games, as Fischer's life and the political climate of the period would dramatise very well.

Hand Solo

Quote from: touchingcloth on November 18, 2020, 01:33:34 PM
They could totally make a second series based around the Fischer-Spassky games, as Fischer's life and the political climate of the period would dramatise very well.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pawn_sacrifice

touchingcloth



touchingcloth


cacciaguida

Quote from: Hand Solo on November 18, 2020, 08:17:50 PM
Had a really strange dream last night:



Where is this from?

Doesn't match any games in my database


Neomod

Quote from: Hand Solo on November 18, 2020, 11:20:01 AM

The character is clearly based on Fischer, so I'm looking forward to later series where she joins a religious cult, goes into years in hiding and becomes rabidly anti-Semitic before moving to Iceland.

I just watched that Bobby Fisher Against the World last night. Jesus wept.

Has anyone seen Pawn Sacrifice? Any good?

Oh and apparently chess is now the new rock and roll because of this show.

I won't be picking it up again but I might get sloshed dancing around our mid century lounge to Shocking Blue.

Hand Solo

Quote from: Neomod on November 19, 2020, 12:08:20 PM
Has anyone seen Pawn Sacrifice? Any good?

I watched it when it came out and my memory is vague but from what I recall it's a fairly unimaginative by-the-numbers run through of Fischer's story, completely safe, like a Ron Howard movie. Watchable but no real angle or insight of you already know about Fischer.

Gilliam should direct a weird biopic on him off the back of this series called The Fischer King. I await my cheque, mate.

sevendaughters

Pawn Sacrifice is awful. Maguire is a really poor Fischer. Soviets bad must krush. Doesn't shy away from the idea that Fischer became a problem but is a bit Bohemian Rhapsody in its relationship with truth.

the science eel

Quote from: Neomod on November 19, 2020, 12:08:20 PM
I just watched that Bobby Fisher Against the World last night. Jesus wept.

Is that the HBO thing? I loved that.

Neomod

Quote from: the science eel on November 19, 2020, 03:58:40 PM
Is that the HBO thing? I loved that.

I enjoyed it too. I didn't know Fischer's back story and how lost he became.

the science eel

Is that the Zizkov TV tower in your avatar?

Neomod

Quote from: the science eel on November 19, 2020, 04:22:30 PM
Is that the Zizkov TV tower in your avatar?

Yep, a detail from one of my architectural art prints.

Hand Solo

Quote from: sevendaughters on November 19, 2020, 02:20:51 PM
Maguire is a really poor Fischer.

Oh yeah, the guy playing Fischer is nothing like him, he's not even blonde. I had no idea why he was cast but then I've never seen any Spiderman films so didn't know he was meant to be A BIG STAHRR! It certainly is a story that would make an absolutely gripping film if someone a bit more experimental/dangerous took the reigns. It is of course a meditation on a man who was made and ultimately destroyed by absolute obsession.

touchingcloth

Quote from: Hand Solo on November 19, 2020, 09:36:51 PM
Oh yeah, the guy playing Fischer is nothing like him, he's not even blonde. I had no idea why he was cast but then I've never seen any Spiderman films so didn't know he was meant to be A BIG STAHRR! It certainly is a story that would make an absolutely gripping film if someone a bit more experimental/dangerous took the reigns. It is of course a meditation on a man who was made and ultimately destroyed by absolute obsession.

Yeah, you really couldn't write his story. Child prodigy gets thrust into the limelight, becomes a proxy in a geopolitical war (or, you could say, a pawn), goes fucking mental.

Searching for Bobby Fischer is a fantastic film, so it would be good to see one of that calibre actually about him. Perhaps by the same team - Fred Waitzkin to write, Zaillian to direct.

Mr_Simnock

I've always thought that almost certainly Fischer was on the spectrum

Hand Solo

Quote from: Mr_Simnock on November 20, 2020, 01:23:18 PM
I've always thought that almost certainly Fischer was on the spectrum

On the spectrum? He was the prism which the spectrum shone through.

Or more prosaically, he must have gone everywhere by Sinclair C5.

Quote from: SteveDave on November 13, 2020, 10:29:33 AM


I thought this was David Spades best performance since Grown Ups 2

cacciaguida

Quote from: Special K on November 29, 2020, 08:48:00 PM
I thought this was David Spades best performance since Grown Ups 2

The Wrong Missy prequel?

paruses

It did get weird when the storyline brought the two of them together.

She reminds me of a white Michaela Coel. And I suppose he does by extension.

non capisco

Really made me laugh when the little kid from Love Actually with a bumfluff tache stuck on turned out to be an accomplished lover. He looked like Vincent Adultman from Bojack Horseman.


Lord Mandrake

Pawn porn, smooth, by the numbers. She's a fine actress. Looked a bit washed out, cinematography uninspiring. Well paced, deeper themes only superficially skimmed. Loads of chess sets in charity shops come spring.

Icehaven

It was OK, not quite as amazing as the hype suggests but I can see why it's drawn a crowd, it looks gorgeous, the lead is attractive and charismatic and it seems to have successfully struck a balance between making chess sexy (no mean feat) while still keeping the enthusiasts happy.

One probably stupid detail that nagged me though. When she's adopted the teacher makes her lie and say she's 13 when really she's 15. I don't think it's mentioned again, but wouldn't that mean she'd have gone into a class of kids two years younger than her if her adoptive parents really believed she was 13? Is it just assumed her real age is revealed at some point and it isn't covered? Her age is a plot point throughout because she's so young and it'd surely be a more prominent thing if she'd continued pretending she was two years younger than she really was.

touchingcloth

^ YES! I had totally forgotten that, but it annoyed me for a couple of episodes. Was she definitely 15? I remember the age of 13 being mentioned but then their being a lool between her and the head which suggested it was untrue, but I wasn't sure if the lie was made to make her older or younger, and I don't remember a point coming where her actual age was mentioned. It probably was before that scene, but in any case it was a mad thing to write in and then never address subsequently for all of the reasons you mention.

Icehaven

Quote from: touchingcloth on December 08, 2020, 06:22:24 PM
^ YES! I had totally forgotten that, but it annoyed me for a couple of episodes. Was she definitely 15? I remember the age of 13 being mentioned but then their being a lool between her and the head which suggested it was untrue, but I wasn't sure if the lie was made to make her older or younger, and I don't remember a point coming where her actual age was mentioned.

Yep she started saying 15 then the head gave her a look and she changed it to 13. I guess because the younger a child is the more appealing they are to adoptive parents.

touchingcloth

Ah, I didn't catch her definitely saying 15, in my memory it was something like:

"How old is she?"

*Camera cuts to Harmon, who looks like she's about to talk, but before she does, the head makes a face and...*

"...13."

El Unicornio, mang

That bit bothered me too, but I just let it slip is a screenwriting error along the same lines as the age discrepancy of the novelist in season 3 of Fargo.