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Title: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dirty Boy on March 16, 2017, 02:13:36 PM
Couldn't see a specific thread for this.

Saw him in Lancaster yesterday and thought it was superb, start to finish. Bits of it are obviously open to change (as he admitted re: uncertainty about brexit, Trump etc), but the whole thing felt complete as a two hour set albeit in an 'even more intricate CRW grab bag of stuff' type way. The Russell Howard bits caused me to shed actual tears, a first for me at a comedy show. The audience dividing trope was also well used considering he's been doing it for years and is funnier the more hateful and judgmental it is.

Anyone else been to see it recently? I'm a bit worried that the amount of time spent touring it may run it into the ground (plus i don't want to wait that long for a dvd release).
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Norton Canes on March 16, 2017, 02:20:25 PM
I was going to pop down last night and see of there'd been any ticket returns but in the end I was too tired. Did see Richard Herring at the same venue a few nights ago though, and he was great too. At one point a heckler chided him for not selling as many tickets as his one-time partner, and...

Hey! Why not let Richard himself take up the story? (http://www.richardherring.com/warmingup/11/3/2017/index.html)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on March 16, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
I'm off to see this in Edinburgh tomorrow. Last time I saw him was a Comedy Vehicle warm-up show at the Leicester Square theatre, so I'm equal parts excited/ trepidatious to see a "proper" show in a big theatre. Seats are terrible too, right up in the gods.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on March 16, 2017, 02:31:58 PM
The Russell Howard bits caused me to shed actual tears, a first for me at a comedy show.

What you havin' a go at Russell Howard for, mate?

It's a great show. I also liked the set littered with second-hand DVDs of various stand-up comedians.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: pigamus on March 16, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
I've got tickets for Symphony Hall in a few weeks. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on March 16, 2017, 03:20:13 PM
I'm seeing it next week in Cambridge.
Very looking forward to it indeed.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on March 16, 2017, 03:20:48 PM
Couldn't see a specific thread for this.

Saw him in Lancaster yesterday and thought it was superb, start to finish. Bits of it are obviously open to change (as he admitted re: uncertainty about brexit, Trump etc), but the whole thing felt complete as a two hour set albeit in an 'even more intricate CRW grab bag of stuff' type way. The Russell Howard bits caused me to shed actual tears, a first for me at a comedy show. The audience dividing trope was also well used considering he's been doing it for years and is funnier the more hateful and judgmental it is.

Anyone else been to see it recently? I'm a bit worried that the amount of time spent touring it may run it into the ground (plus i don't want to wait that long for a dvd release).

Long show? Or + support?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on March 16, 2017, 03:27:43 PM
What you havin' a go at Russell Howard for, mate?
Uhhh, mate?

I also thought it was a very good show, better than SLCV4 (which I liked a lot). Nice to see a proper show after going to a few of his Comedy Vehicle material shows, and I thought the ending was great. Um. Well done then Stew.

No support or encore for us but a good long show.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dirty Boy on March 16, 2017, 03:43:48 PM
Long show? Or + support?
Long show with an interval. Must have been at least two hours, but it flew by.

In case anyone's missed it, here's an extensive interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-9fgjZ4Kws) that's recently appeared.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 16, 2017, 04:20:44 PM

Hey! Why not let Richard himself take up the story? (http://www.richardherring.com/warmingup/11/3/2017/index.html)

Quote
Mrs Browns Boys sells more tickets than Stewart

Desolation
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sgt. Duckie on March 16, 2017, 05:43:08 PM
Saw this at the Brighton Dome last month. Was sitting right where his digs to the upper seats were and wished he'd give it a rest after a while. Was on top form though, the start to the second half was a clever touch but it sagged slightly with the [spoiler]bondage[/spoiler] anecdotes.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ringside on March 16, 2017, 07:53:55 PM

In case anyone's missed it, here's an extensive interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-9fgjZ4Kws) that's recently appeared.

- Beautiful. Thanks!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Crabwalk on March 16, 2017, 11:10:09 PM
I'm seeing it next week in Cambridge.
Very looking forward to it indeed.

Me too, especially having listened to the Comedian's Comedian interview today. Absolutely fascinating and sounds like the last big tour Stew will be doing for many years.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Panbaams on March 17, 2017, 10:03:09 AM
Saw this in November in Watford, one of the first shows of the tour, I believe. I got the impression then that the first half would change a fair bit as the tour went on (the Brexit vote had happened at this point, but not Trump) whereas the second half was down pat. That's not a criticism, by the way – this was an excellent show, anyone who's got a ticket for it is going to have a good night out.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Repeater on March 17, 2017, 11:50:39 AM
Trying to stay resolute in my belief that everything that Stew writes is tripe (aside from his book) and thus avoid clicking that link. Bored but innit?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Puce Moment on March 17, 2017, 02:52:39 PM
I saw this in London a few months ago and loved it. I would say that it feels somewhat dashed off - a collection of thoughts taped together rather than a very clear, constructed show around a central concept. But maybe that's because discussions of Trump & Brexit are so diffuse and present everywhere you go - it makes this feel quite chatty. However, I thought coalesced into a nice whole by the end of the show. It seemed less mannered and in the 'Stewart Lee' TM persona of recent years, but maybe that was because it was a work in progress.

On the night I went there was a massive laugh for a bit that he suggested had done no business in the past and he was considering dropping. I wish I could remember which bit it was, and I would love to know whether he was bullshitting. The reason I thought it might be genuine was because he looked over at Bridget Christie by the bar when he said it, but again, could be bollocks.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Barry Admin on March 17, 2017, 03:07:32 PM
What sort of stuff is he doing about President Pussy-Grabber?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Blinder Data on March 17, 2017, 03:55:00 PM
Saw this last night in Glasgow. IIRC he didn't talk that much about Trump apart from echoing what he said about Brexit at the start of the first half: mocking the reasons for voting for it and the improbable nature of its consequences.

I quite enjoyed it, even if it was in a horrible venue (SEC Armadillo). It's my third time seeing him and I don't think I'll see him again unless it's in a smaller, better venue. I think I'm finally growing a bit tired of his schtick too.

The [Spoiler]OAP bondage[/Spoiler] stuff fell pretty flat. It's always interesting to try to work out what's real and what isn't, especially the local references he made and the interactions with the audience. Some banter with audience members using their phones certainly felt impromptu. To be fair in this exchange the punter was actually quite witty, but like most hecklers/show disruptors they never know when to shut up.

I wasn't sure of the ending. It didn't seem to come together for me. Like Puce Moment says it's pretty chatty and loose. I enjoyed If You Prefer A Milder Comedian, Please Ask For One and Carpet Remnant World more, though I've not seen his WIP shows.

Still, seeing him effortlessly mock other comics' styles and jokes was pretty great. He is pretty great at the old stand-up lark.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Puce Moment on March 17, 2017, 04:49:55 PM
Do you remember any particular swipes? He made a comment about the pairing of Romney and Trump (and other people who work with but clearly hate Trump and vice-versa) and made a sly comment about Herring that seemed improvised but probably wasn't. It's hard not to enjoy the really bitchy stuff he does about comics, but I did notice that both he (and Bridget Christie's) digs at Corbyn elicited very little laughter from the London liberal elite that were at the show I went to.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on March 17, 2017, 04:53:22 PM
Do you remember any particular swipes? He made a comment about the pairing of Romney and Trump (and other people who work with but clearly hate Trump and vice-versa) and made a sly comment about Herring that seemed improvised but probably wasn't. It's hard not to enjoy the really bitchy stuff he does about comics, but I did notice that both he (and Bridget Christie's) digs at Corbyn elicited very little laughter from the London liberal elite that were at the show I went to.

It wasn't. He made the same dig when I saw him. I think others have mentioned it around here as well.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Puce Moment on March 17, 2017, 05:27:04 PM
It wasn't. He made the same dig when I saw him. I think others have mentioned it around here as well.

Thanks, he does a good job of making certain thoughts seem spontaneous which I guess is second nature to him at this point.

Something else I remember from watching this show. The two 'repetition' moments really killed me. The funniest I think I have ever seen, but I do think that this material works FAR FAR better live than it does on TV. There is something about the immediacy of it happening in front of you that makes it more preposterous, whereas on TV I think it feels very performed. In any case, those moments have really stuck with me and will make me giggle when walking, driving, cleaning my nuts in the shower.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Norton Canes on March 17, 2017, 09:34:30 PM
It wasn't. He made the same dig when I saw him. I think others have mentioned it around here as well

Go on..?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: JCR on March 17, 2017, 11:58:44 PM


The [Spoiler]OAP bondage[/Spoiler] stuff fell pretty flat. It's always interesting to try to work out what's real and what isn't, especially the local references he made and the interactions with the audience. Some banter with audience members using their phones certainly felt impromptu. To be fair in this exchange the punter was actually quite witty, but like most hecklers/show disruptors they never know when to shut up.

That I thought went on too long as well tonight in auld reekie, though it may have just been the position in the show for me as I think the third quarter of Carpet Remnant World dragged live too.

Think he was slightly hamstrung doing material that's on the surface about [spoiler]FKA Twigs[/spoiler] when it was clear instantly that 99% of the crowd tonight had no clue who she is.

Still, like every show of his I'm sure it'll benefit from being rewatched & I'm sure I'll enjoy watching it again when the dvd comes out.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ringside on March 18, 2017, 06:35:18 AM
I think he said there probably wouldn't be any more DVD releases of his live shows....I'm hoping this doesn't stretch to online digital versions maybe?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on March 18, 2017, 09:10:23 AM
Enjoyed his Embra show last night, but like others zoned during the S&M material. Also had no idea what the FKATweets referred to, and still don't. On the other hand near wet myself at the [spoiler]OH MATE[/spoiler] bit

I also found myself willing him to get on with it once he started the usual "those people over there didn't get that but these people did" routines. If I was a heckling sort I'd shout "yeah they did".

Do you think the odd digs at the previous night's Glasgow show were genuine or standard rival towns material?

Also who was he referring to with the "we don't have those cakes over here mate [spoiler]I don't go to New York and do 20 minutes on tablet[/spoiler]?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: HappyTree on March 18, 2017, 09:41:41 AM
Not following Lee or Herring particularly, I didn't know they had fallen out. Herring's comment about Moby Dick seemed quite pointed. What's the beef?

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dirty Boy on March 18, 2017, 09:54:17 AM
I think it possibly stems from Lee's last appearance on 'Herring's comedy interviews' or whatever it's called. Stew seemed a bit drunk and depressed (and fat) and although i didn't notice anything untoward on the video, folk who were there said there was a weird atmosphere after Stew slagged off Richard's management for about ten minutes (which was removed from the YT vid, apparently at Stews behest).

Probably exaggerated though innit?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: HappyTree on March 18, 2017, 10:40:21 AM
Ah ok, a stunt falling out with a small grain of resentment. Fairy nuff. I can see why, really, I mean Lee is one of the best stand-ups ever and Herring is not.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: MjjW on March 19, 2017, 12:53:00 AM
Which of you lot was I sitting beside up in F50s? Loved it having held off seeing him live for a few years. Agree first 2/3 stronger than [spoiler]S+M stuff[/spoiler] for me. Probably most enjoyed the mate section, his [spoiler]high pitched song summarising the show so far[/spoiler] or his disdainful treatment of the stage "decor"
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: RenegadeScrew on March 19, 2017, 12:35:17 PM
Saw this on Friday in Edinburgh too.

The repetition Russell Howard bit was unbelievable.  The bit about him supporting the market for his 2nd hand DVDs is still wonderful although not massively changed since August.

An absolute master on stage really.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: JCR on March 19, 2017, 03:01:08 PM
Guess this might come under foul gossip, but didn't Lee refuse to pay his share of the production costs that would have let go faster stripe issue TMWRNJ series 1 on dvd a few years back? Maybe that strained the relationship.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on March 19, 2017, 03:19:01 PM

Also who was he referring to with the "we don't have those cakes over here mate [Spoiler]I don't go to New York and do 20 minutes on tablet[/Spoiler]?


Maybe Louis CK...?  I think Lee might have been at one of the shows he did at the Fringe a few years back which featured a longish routine about Cinnabons.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on March 19, 2017, 03:34:40 PM
Guess this might come under foul gossip, but didn't Lee refuse to pay his share of the production costs that would have let go faster stripe issue TMWRNJ series 1 on dvd a few years back? Maybe that strained the relationship.

First I've heard of that.
I thought it was the BBC who massively increased the cost of buying the rights[nb]despite having no interest in releasing it themselves[/nb], making it pretty much impossible for Stew, Rich and GFS to not incur a large loss on releasing it. There was also talk of the Beeb wanting to have the final call over the final product[nb]as they did for FoF2, but oddly not FoF1[/nb], probably to remove any references to Jimmy Savile and all that...

I did actually get to briefly speak to both Stew and Rich about it after their respective gigs around the time that it got shelved.
Stew thought it would still be released eventually, Rich didn't.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Blinder Data on March 20, 2017, 02:51:17 PM
Do you think the odd digs at the previous night's Glasgow show were genuine or standard rival towns material?

I think someone tried to take a photo on their phone, Lee dived into the audience and got involved in a protracted discussion about it. It was quite amusing at first but it got a bit boring (and anyone who wasn't in the stalls wasn't sure sure what was going on). A couple of idiots shouted a couple of things too.

There's no sense of irony when he talks about ordering his own DVDs online or the financial difficulties of being a stand-up comedian, is there? I bet he's a tight get in real life.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on March 20, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
In that Comedian's Comedian podcast he's quite open about wanting this tour to pay off some debts, and in most interviews seems preoccupied with the difficulties of making stand-up pay. I bet the breakdown of percentages and who gets what he goes into during that buying-his-own-books routine are accurate and genuine.

Stuart Goldsmith gently ribs him for having some sort of 'success dysmorphia,' which I thought was quite insightful. For the first time I believed that when Lee accuses a section of the audience of not getting it, or claiming a routine 'usually gets a better response' he might actually mean it. 
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on March 20, 2017, 08:47:45 PM
Though quite amusing in Edinburgh when he referred to the people who get the jokes as the same ones who also come to see him in August at The Stand.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: hewantstolurkatad on March 21, 2017, 05:08:16 AM
but I did notice that both he (and Bridget Christie's) digs at Corbyn elicited very little laughter from the London liberal elite that were at the show I went to
What were these?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Mobius on March 21, 2017, 05:34:54 AM
I bet he's a tight get in real life.

According to numerous Richard Herring anecdotes in the Collings & Herring podcast, yeah he is.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: easytarget on March 21, 2017, 06:38:04 AM
Too late to add this in, Stew? http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-39326659
Quote from: hamster
"As for injuries; well put it this way, I don't think I can get a book out of it."

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"As for egg-juries; I don't wing I can egg a egg out egg egg!"
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: buntyman on March 21, 2017, 08:55:29 PM
I went to see both Stewart Lee and Bridget Christie in Glasgow last week within the space of a couple of days. Thought they were both very good but overall probably enjoyed Bridget Christie more. I think mainly because I hadn't seen her before so most of the material was new to me and I also liked the venue better.
Not sure if it's been discussed on here before but one thing that stood out from seeing them both so close together is their material that covers similar ground. I would have thought that they'd be careful of any crossover at all to avoid tiresome pedants like me calling them out on it on the internet. If I was Bridget Christie, I would ditch any Russell Brand pisstaking and not use the phrase 'metropolitan liberal elite' anymore. There were also some bits of her interaction with the audience and her teeing up of some references to look out for in the second half that bore the Lee hallmarks.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: MojoJojo on March 23, 2017, 08:02:28 PM
He's late.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: KennyMonster on March 23, 2017, 08:21:47 PM
He's late.

What? you've got him up the duff?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on March 23, 2017, 10:56:12 PM
Well, that was fucking great!
A master at work.

And the Herring 'dig' is a wonderful joke.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Crabwalk on March 23, 2017, 11:46:25 PM
I was expecting a chummy little 'dig' but, bloody hell i damn near shouted 'OOOOF' at that! An absolute reducer from Stew, that one. Loved him doubling down on the Howard hate. He could've been more bullish in response to Stewart Goldsmith's complaints I thought, so good to see him take aim onstage again.

Excellent gig overall, albeit a bit less impressive thematically and structurally than recent shows due to its looser, scattergun nature and the familiarity of some of his tropes.

I was 3 rows back bang in the centre and it was great to see him at work from such close quarters. Preferred the first half of the show and was really agitated during the FKA Twigs bit. I actually did shout 'she's a woman' at one point - it was driving me nuts that he kept getting the gender deliberately wrong and nobody was correcting him, which I thought he wanted to progress the bit. But (thankfully) he didn't hear me and it just sputtered on and then ended.

Was he being genuine when he said he was genuinely enjoying himself due to the unpredictable responses of the crowd or does he say that every night? Wait, of course he does. He is amazing at the seemingly off the cuff moments now isn't he?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dirty Boy on March 24, 2017, 05:59:27 AM
Did he say anything about Wednesdays events?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on March 24, 2017, 08:12:14 AM
Was he being genuine when he said he was genuinely enjoying himself due to the unpredictable responses of the crowd or does he say that every night? Wait, of course he does. He is amazing at the seemingly off the cuff moments now isn't he?

Corn Exchange audiences are pretty shit overall. But maybe that helps his 'mixed ability room' stuff to work, as it's generally true in Cambridge.
The couple sat in front of me left at the interval and they actually exchanged a glance when he mentioned people coming to see him thinking he was Lee Mack, so maybe he was right about that too.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Repeater on March 24, 2017, 09:38:27 AM
Why would you shout out in the middle of a comedy gig
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on March 24, 2017, 10:56:00 AM
Why would you shout out in the middle of a comedy gig

To get made a fool of by a pro?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on March 24, 2017, 11:50:26 AM
I was expecting a chummy little 'dig' but, bloody hell i damn near shouted 'OOOOF' at that! An absolute reducer from Stew, that one.

It's a cracking joke, but unless I misunderstood it - or it was worded differently at the gig I saw - it's a joke about the pair of them and how, as a double act, they more or less cancelled each other out. It's pretty self deprecating and I didn't really take it as him having a go.

His 'Imagine that!' after his joke about Michael Gove and Sarah Vine was also a great, subtle bit of self lampoonery that didn't earn much the night I saw him as I guess it relies on pretty obscure knowledge (http://www.chortle.co.uk/shows/edinburgh_fringe_2009/b/16944/bridget_christie%3A_my_daily_mail_hell).

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twed on March 24, 2017, 12:09:13 PM
Can somebody please write the actual words of the dig instead of referring to it as an entirely abstract concept
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on March 24, 2017, 12:13:59 PM
Can somebody please write the actual words of the dig instead of referring to it as an entirely abstract concept

Some tickets still available.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: selectivememory on March 24, 2017, 12:20:02 PM
Can somebody please write the actual words of the dig instead of referring to it as an entirely abstract concept

It was mentioned in the Herring podcast thread by this helpful poster, after much badgering:

Good, because I'd feel VERY uncomfortable typing it out for all to see.


edit: oh alright [Spoiler]He says something about meeting a woman trying to reconcile two fundamentally incompatible things, and he sympathised because he once did a double act with Richard Herring[/Spoiler]
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Crabwalk on March 24, 2017, 01:38:00 PM
That doesn't really convey it. They're being very cagey there and I don't blame them.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twed on March 24, 2017, 02:29:04 PM
Thaaaank you. Although I thought I was clear on it for a second and then Crabwalk posted that cryptic message. I feel like you're all joining some sort of secret society at these Lee gigs.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on March 24, 2017, 02:36:28 PM
That doesn't really convey it. They're being very cagey there and I don't blame them.

tbf it pretty much conveys it from last Friday.  Sounds like he went a bit further the night you went.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Crabwalk on March 24, 2017, 02:42:39 PM
Hmm. Maybe I leapt to the most vicious possible interpretation of the [Spoiler]musical genre[/Spoiler] analogy.

DrGreggles, what did you make of that line from last night?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on March 24, 2017, 03:02:01 PM
I don't see it as a dig - just an excellent joke.
Not sure how it could possibly work with any name other than Herring's.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Crabwalk on March 24, 2017, 04:48:26 PM
OK I'm going to spoiler this so don't read it if you've not seen the show yet. It'll ruin a good bit for zero reward.

[spoiler]So, the girl was a jazz/folk musician, two seemingly irreconcilable styles of music due to their respective properties, which Lee described. Jazz as freewheeling, unpredictable, searching, innovative. Folk as ancient, traditional, passed down, with no room for improvisation or metamorphosis. Can you spot the inference I immediately made from the punchline (which was delivered looking down, away from the audience, without a smirk or chuckle)?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Puce Moment on March 24, 2017, 05:32:06 PM
I remember that now. It's bollocks, obviously, but is a good lead-in to the gag.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: RenegadeScrew on March 25, 2017, 01:17:29 PM
His 'Imagine that!' after his joke about Michael Gove and Sarah Vine was also a great, subtle bit of self lampoonery that didn't earn much the night I saw him as I guess it relies on pretty obscure knowledge (http://www.chortle.co.uk/shows/edinburgh_fringe_2009/b/16944/bridget_christie%3A_my_daily_mail_hell).

Yeah, he's actually changed that joke in order to lampoon himself[nb]maybe some other stuff too[/nb].  The August incarnation of the joke was pretty perfect - but maybe a bit "1,2,3" for Lee's liking.  For example - I was able to tell it to my dad in August last year.

[spoiler]At University, David Cameron put his cock in a pig
In order to outdo him, Michael Gove put his cock in Sarah Vine
In order to outdo Gove, Teresa May put Boris Johnson in the position of Foreign Secretary[/spoiler]

Beautiful
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: pigamus on March 28, 2017, 11:01:44 PM
Just sin Stewart Lee!

[spoiler]He looked fat and depressed!

Nah he was great.[/spoiler]

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: TrenterPercenter on March 29, 2017, 12:22:00 AM
Pigamus we must have been in the same room together as just got back.

Back on form, i'd say, really good.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: bomb_dog on March 29, 2017, 11:37:47 PM
Just got back from Cheltenham. Morrissey has let etc. obvs.

Really enjoyed that. He ignored initial shouts about FKA twigs being a male rap singer from Gloucester and let it unwind on its own, and no-one else shouted about them being female.

Usual mixed ability room stuff but still funny. 'Mate' was great as was the bit about anyone under 40. Loved it.

There weere a few people near me looked very bored and looked quite disengaged from tje show, whilst others were roaring. A friend my brother brought along thought he was 'different' but really enjoyed it. Been a fan for so long it's easy to forget that although he sells venues out he's still an acquired taste.

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: pigamus on March 30, 2017, 03:02:36 PM
Yeah, that whole 'People coming to see me who don't know me and won't like me' stuff really is true, isn't it? You don't realise until you're in the audience and see it for yourself.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dr Rock on May 01, 2017, 09:17:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/search?filter=programmes&q=fist+of+fun (http://www.bbc.co.uk/search?filter=programmes&q=fist+of+fun)

BBC currently giving you another chance to hear Fist Of Fun, as recorded at various universities on tour. I hadn't heard these before.

Didn't know where else to put this.

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Mark Steels Stockbroker on May 01, 2017, 10:15:48 PM
He's like The Fall - some people think it's rubbish, whereas others actively hate it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sydward Lartle on May 01, 2017, 10:21:10 PM
He's like The Fall - some people think it's rubbish, whereas others actively hate it.

I think Stewart Lee's rubbish but don't actively hate him.

I quite like Slang King by the Fall and am Facebook friends with Brix Smith.

Where do I fit into this scheme?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Steptoes_Son on May 25, 2017, 10:15:42 PM
Saw this last night at Salford Lowry, thought it was excellent. He geniunely looked like he was enjoying himself, and that carried into the audience, I think. The 'mate' bit had me roaring, and his comparing GoT to having a Terry Pratchett book in one hand and a copy of hustler in the other. Agree with others that it seemed a little patchwork, with the most thematic stuff taking place in the second row, but the quality of the performance and material more than made up for it.

Also, all proceeds of his merchandise sales last night went to the Manchester Arena fund, which I thought was a nice touch.

Obviously not such a tight git! (even if he is 'banned' from Edinburgh Fopp)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: thatguyfromthatthing on May 30, 2017, 09:59:12 AM
I can't remember who said they didn't think there'd be a DVD somewhere at the beginning of this thread, but I'm pretty sure they recorded one of the very first WiP ones at the Soho Theatre to use as a dvd extra so I'm pretty sure there will be one eventually.
I saw the show about a week ago in Newcastle. I didn't think it was as good as when he came here at the very start of the tour, but it was a slightly bigger room so that might be it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ringside on May 31, 2017, 03:56:37 AM
I can't remember who said they didn't think there'd be a DVD somewhere at the beginning of this thread, but I'm pretty sure they recorded one of the very first WiP ones at the Soho Theatre to use as a dvd extra so I'm pretty sure there will be one eventually.
I saw the show about a week ago in Newcastle. I didn't think it was as good as when he came here at the very start of the tour, but it was a slightly bigger room so that might be it.


I think at some point recently (well, AFTER Carpet Remanent World's release at least), Stew himself said he probably wouldn't be doing any more stand up DVD's.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on May 31, 2017, 10:22:28 AM
A Bic For Her is on now on Netflix, so I'd be surprised if discussions haven't happened for Content Provider to have a similar fate.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: RenegadeScrew on June 01, 2017, 06:42:40 PM

I think at some point recently (well, AFTER Carpet Remanent World's release at least), Stew himself said he probably wouldn't be doing any more stand up DVD's.

Isn't that just another one of his running jokes where he says he's not going to bother because everyone just downloads his stuff anyway?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ringside on June 02, 2017, 04:53:12 AM
It seemed like he meant it, it was a candid chat, I THINK it was on a podcast I listened to.

I'm hoping to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on June 02, 2017, 06:24:58 AM
Going straight to a streaming site isn't the same as releasing it as a DVD anyway, so I'd be surprised if it wasn't made available somehow.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: JoeyBananaduck on June 02, 2017, 09:30:46 AM
Dump it on his website for a fiver? Seems to work for Louis CK.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twed on June 02, 2017, 05:03:48 PM
I wonder if that sort of thing works for an audience essentially limited to a single country. Louis CK is far more popular, and global too.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on June 02, 2017, 05:35:01 PM
Netflix it, baby. Join the herd.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Beagle 2 on June 06, 2017, 02:24:01 PM
Egg(like a bird's egg)-cellent surprise to get an email from Pliny yesterday.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Old Thrashbarg on June 20, 2017, 11:20:09 PM
[spoiler]Eamonn Holmes[/spoiler] being described as [spoiler]Murdoch's "dustbin condom truffle pig"[/spoiler] was a particular highlight.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Thomas on June 20, 2017, 11:25:10 PM
There weere a few people near me looked very bored and looked quite disengaged from tje show, whilst others were roaring. A friend my brother brought along thought he was 'different' but really enjoyed it. Been a fan for so long it's easy to forget that although he sells venues out he's still an acquired taste.

Last time I saw Stew, as he did his Rod Liddle bit, my best friend, seated to my left, was bent over in silent, painful laughter, and the stranger immediately to my right was stony-faced, staunchly unimpressed, muttering impatiently under his breath. 'For God's sake.' Made it even funnier.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Mark Steels Stockbroker on June 21, 2017, 06:23:26 AM
Last time I saw Stew, as he did his Rod Liddle bit, my best friend, seated to my left, was bent over in silent, painful laughter, and the stranger immediately to my right was stony-faced, staunchly unimpressed, muttering impatiently under his breath. 'For God's sake.' Made it even funnier.

I suppose what's crucial to enjoyment of that routine is whether you know or care about Rod Liddle.

There have been several times when I've been creased up with laughter at something on CaB, and Mrs Stockbroker looks at it and just mutters "yes dear". Because she doesn't know whoever it is who's died.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on June 23, 2017, 12:13:28 PM
I'm seeing this in September so it's ages off, going to be interesting how this changes as the tour progresses. He's doing it til next February!

Here's Stew In Conversation with John Robb

http://player.lush.com/tv/conversation-john-robb-and-stewart-lee
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on June 28, 2017, 07:11:39 PM
Two New Jack posts in a  row, you lucky fucks.

Anyway Stew has emailed moaning about Viagogo

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VIAGOGO CUNTS

The Freemarket Cunts at Viagogo are taking the piss out of me, you and any venue that receives any public subsidy by selling tickets for my Liverpool Philharmonic Sept 15th and Belfast Waterfront 28th Sept dates at up to three times face value.

It's easy enough to work out which seats these are and I will personally come down from the stage and throw out anyone who buys any tickets from these websites.

 can't wait to see him throw people out.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ringside on June 29, 2017, 03:31:09 AM
I was wondering about this. I've seen him mention personally throwing people out who may have purchased tickets from a dubious source. Has anyone seen this happen at a show?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: colacentral on June 29, 2017, 07:25:02 AM
Has anyone here seen him multiple times on this tour? I'm interested in any notable changes to the material. The election, and business with the DUP must surely be working its way in.

I think someone in this thread mentioned something about multiple shows being filmed for a potential DVD? I hope that's true. I loved the version I saw, I thought it was easily the strongest material of his career (my previous favourite was Milder Comedian), but it would be great to see how the show progresses with current events, and it would be a shame to only get one iteration. And I'd want full versions. Sounds expensive though, not sure Stew would be into that. Maybe there'll be bootlegs, but it wouldn't be the same.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mjwilson on June 29, 2017, 06:28:06 PM
I was wondering about this. I've seen him mention personally throwing people out who may have purchased tickets from a dubious source. Has anyone seen this happen at a show?

No, but I saw him absolutely take the piss out of a couple who had bought the front row, centre seats from some site which had snapped them up, then sold them for a 4x mark up.

They committed a greater sin by coming in late, so he'd already done a bit about how pleased he was that no-one had bought the seats, before they made their very obvious entrance.

(Also recently I saw him take someone's phone off them and stuck it down the back of his trousers for the rest of the show.)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: JamesTC on September 15, 2017, 05:51:49 PM

It's a great show. I also liked the set littered with second-hand DVDs of various stand-up comedians.

Right that explains it.

A few hours ago I saw a guy who looked just like Stewart Lee in CEX in Liverpool City Centre. I was standing right next to him but I didn't hear him speak so I couldn't know for certain if it was him. I thought it couldn't be him because he was either buying or selling a copious amount of shit stand-up DVDs (mostly Ricky Gervais and Russell Brand).

He must be single handedly clearing out the CEX stores of the country of shit stand-up DVDs that are reduced to 50p.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Steven on September 15, 2017, 11:24:18 PM
A few hours ago I saw a guy who looked just like Stewart Lee in CEX in Liverpool City Centre. I was standing right next to him but I didn't hear him speak so I couldn't know for certain if it was him. I thought it couldn't be him because he was either buying or selling a copious amount of shit stand-up DVDs (mostly Ricky Gervais and Russell Brand).

That's amusing, I tried to get tickets for either his upcoming Chester show or tonight's Liverpool show but they were both sold out, maybe due to these scav companies block buying and re-selling seats. But your encounter certainly makes me wonder as he had a show in Liverpool last night whether he sells all the set dressing of shite second hand stand-up DVDs after each performance, or hurriedly finds a vendor so he can provide it with even more local shite second hand stand-up DVD content?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: JamesTC on September 16, 2017, 12:11:37 AM
That's amusing, I tried to get tickets for either his upcoming Chester show or tonight's Liverpool show but they were both sold out, maybe due to these scav companies block buying and re-selling seats. But your encounter certainly makes me wonder as he had a show in Liverpool last night whether he sells all the set dressing of shite second hand stand-up DVDs after each performance, or hurriedly finds a vendor so he can provide it with even more local shite second hand stand-up DVD content?

He had a show on Thursday evening here as well so I assume he is just adding to the pile with every opportunity.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: colacentral on September 16, 2017, 03:36:54 PM
It was a few months ago when I saw it, but doesn't he stamp on a load of them at certain points? He's probably replacing the destroyed discs.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: JesuitWrangler on September 28, 2017, 03:07:47 PM
Seen him last night in Derry. I found that the S & M bit went on a bit too long for my taste. I actually usually like the repetitive elements in his work but it just wasn't one of the best. Also, I wish he would move on from his divide the audience/unworkable room schtick or do something different with it because it feels like the same old routine over and over again and it was funnier when he did it with apparent sadness in Carpet Remnant World.

In saying all that I'm being overly critical. He's the best standup I've seen live by a wide margin. As someone else has said, he's an absolute master on that stage. The way the start of the second half mirrors the first is just so clever and well done that I find his smarmy-ness in delivery well-earned and enjoyable more than anything else.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: robotam on September 29, 2017, 12:30:27 AM
Saw it tonight. A lot of the divided room stuff up top. I wonder if that might actually be for the benefit of new people. It, and the annoyance at people bringing friends, quickly (not that quickly) gets across the character's personality.

Once it got going it was fucking masterful. He is the best stand up comedian.
Title: Mate
Post by: Morrison Lard on October 07, 2017, 12:21:14 PM
He was excellent last night in Notts.

Got him to sign me book.
(https://i.imgur.com/S8cKDGe.jpg)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Shit Good Nose on October 09, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
Saw it last night.

As with his last few tours, the first half was MUCH stronger than the second.

And yeah, the divided audience stuff is just being repackaged and rewritten a bit too much now.


Is the trousers thing a part of the show, or was it a genuine accident?  He seemed to laugh in a genuine manner when it happened, but like all the other pseudo-"improv" stuff...
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on October 09, 2017, 02:42:20 PM
I don't recall a trousers thing!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Shit Good Nose on October 09, 2017, 02:59:40 PM
Ahhh - mentioned, and similarly questioned, and confirmed in this review of the same show - http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife/stewart-lee-review-content-provider-597266 (http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife/stewart-lee-review-content-provider-597266)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on October 09, 2017, 04:51:42 PM
Yeah, no trousers shenanigans in Belfast. Gig seemed to be going badly for him and he confirmed afterwards that it was exactly as frustrating as it appeared to be.

He laid blame at the feet of the Waterfront for not getting people in quick enough and for their extortionate merchandise tax.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on October 09, 2017, 06:28:49 PM
Yeah, no trousers shenanigans in Belfast. Gig seemed to be going badly for him and he confirmed afterwards that it was exactly as frustrating as it appeared to be.

He laid blame at the feet of the Waterfront for not getting people in quick enough and for their extortionate merchandise tax.

He's publicly said on several occasions that he felt he didn't click with the audience in Aberdeen on Carpet Remnant world and hasn't been back since despite doing places like Dundee. I enjoyed it though. He's up for the new one in March.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: kittens on October 09, 2017, 06:43:50 PM
going to this tonight. just saw him walking around. hope it's good
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Genevieve on October 09, 2017, 07:49:21 PM
I saw someone say he took his trousers down at another date in order to prove he'd lost weight, I think they said it happened in Liverpool. 
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Genevieve on October 09, 2017, 08:31:58 PM
Here we are, in this review: http://www.getintothis.co.uk/2017/09/stewart-lee-liverpool-philharmonic/
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Genevieve on October 09, 2017, 08:58:18 PM
And here's the little one who inspired it: https://twitter.com/wheresparko/with_replies  The sort of sport thug Stewart's hoping to shake off now he's off the box.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Mark Borrigan on October 18, 2017, 11:51:11 AM
Saw him in Lincoln last night and he was absolutely brilliant. First time I've seen him live too.

Though I made the mistake of going to see it with my Dad, who voted Leave in the EU referendum. I saw him shift uncomfortably in his seat during the first half when Stew said: [SPOILER] "It wasn't just racists who voted for Brexit. It was cunts as well." [/SPOILER] I think he enjoyed it aside from the Brexit stuff.

The trousers falling down bit has now become a deliberate part of his set. He referred to the night in Bristol where it happened accidentally and said he finds the set goes down better when his trousers fall down so he's started doing it on purpose.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: the science eel on October 18, 2017, 12:09:47 PM
I wanted to see him but it's only all these horrible places in the south - Cheltenham, Winchester, Reading, Dorking - and then 192 dates in London. What a cunt.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Crabwalk on October 18, 2017, 12:12:39 PM
Where are you waiting for him to play, fucking Shangri-La?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ham Bap on October 18, 2017, 12:31:30 PM
Ooh, is he finally coming to Shangri-La?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on October 18, 2017, 12:35:58 PM
Shangri-La Leisure Centre is a shit venue anyway.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Vodka Margarine on October 18, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
I’m seeing him in one of those horrible places in the south... how long has his set been?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on October 18, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
Should be two hours including intermission.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: itsfredtitmus on October 19, 2017, 12:16:14 AM
Did he do the "you fat bastard! you fat bastard! thing anywhere else?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on October 19, 2017, 04:12:06 PM
Not Belfast
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: itsfredtitmus on October 20, 2017, 06:37:36 PM
It wasn't just racists who voted for Brexit. It was cunts as well
Maybe it was funnier in person but that sounds a bit... Russell Howard
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Cursus on November 09, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
Right that explains it.

A few hours ago I saw a guy who looked just like Stewart Lee in CEX in Liverpool City Centre. I was standing right next to him but I didn't hear him speak so I couldn't know for certain if it was him. I thought it couldn't be him because he was either buying or selling a copious amount of shit stand-up DVDs (mostly Ricky Gervais and Russell Brand).

He must be single handedly clearing out the CEX stores of the country of shit stand-up DVDs that are reduced to 50p.

Stewart mentions the Liverpool CEX part way through this conversation with Iain Sinclair (https://www.lrb.co.uk/2017/11/08/iain-sinclair/iain-sinclair-and-stewart-lee) (anecdote starts around 48:42).
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: c on November 30, 2017, 07:28:31 PM
Saw this last night. I was worried that, this being such a long run of dates, he might lack enthusiasm, but he was a total pro. I don't think this was as sophisticated a set as Carpet Remnant World. It's less coherent structurally and, to be honest, I'd rather he go off on his odd and often thought-provoking tangents than do Brexit and Trump material, which was fine, but not that different from the kind of thing you might expect from milder comedians.

This thread has been frustratingly spoilery, but one benefit: the S&M stuff seemed fine to me, as I expected it to be agonising like his crisps bit. I'm pretty sure it was the thread that prepared me for it, as the two people I was with spontaneously identified it as being too long and not the best bit before we'd even got to the cloakroom. 

He's a genius, though. Anyone can experiment with a form and the (art) world is, of course, full of failed experiments. Genius is doing something new and making it work, I think, and he absolutely does that.

 
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Thursday on December 07, 2017, 09:32:58 AM
Saw this a LST show last night, it was good, but I guess he's never going to stop doing the divided room stuff, it just seems to be an intrinsic part of his act that he will always want to do and thinks his essential for it to work. I'm not convinced it needs to be really, but I guess he would know better than me there, still it just makes me want to see him in an environment where he can't fall back on those tricks.

If only he'd stop being successful and be forced to do something truly weird and experimental to appeal to the hardcore fans like me!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: axel on December 08, 2017, 06:55:40 AM
Stew finishing his tour with some shows at RFH

"19th - 23rd April 2018. Content Provider has been touring to sold out theatres throughout divided Brexit Britain for nearly two years and is Stewart Lee's most successful full-length show ever.

Join him on these special evenings as he finally abandons two hours of monetisable material and performs the show for the very last time. When it's gone it's gone.
Stewart is 50 years old in 2018 and, after performing these shows, he intends to take the longest break from stand-up he's had since his four year disappearance at the start of the century."
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: brat-sampson on December 08, 2017, 07:11:45 AM
Is this going to come out on DVD or the like after the run's finished? There's no way I can see it otherwise :(
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: colacentral on December 08, 2017, 07:23:48 AM
I hope so. I remember coming out of it feeling like it was his best show, surpassing Milder Comedian as my previous favourite. It would be a great shame for all that material to be lost.

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on December 08, 2017, 02:39:46 PM
His last few tours haven't been filmed or released though, right? Did the material end up in the TV shows?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: brat-sampson on December 08, 2017, 04:31:59 PM
I thought the last few basically *were* material for the TV show, being put through its paces. This was meant to be his first return to long-form since Carpet, and that had a release.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ringside on December 11, 2017, 09:17:26 AM
I thought I remembered him saying there'd probably be no more DVD's or something like that? I hope there's SOMETHING. Digital release? I don't know. I hate to think there'll be no record of this, as I have no way of seeing the live shows.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on December 11, 2017, 01:49:13 PM
Come to think of it a big part of the new show is how DVDs aren't financially viable for him. Think he's also talked about how he'd be happy to do what Bridget Christie did, that the BBC-filmed Netflix special is a good way forward for standup.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on December 11, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
I'm pretty sure he claimed that CRW wasn't going to be released either, so I'm not sure it won't appear.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ringside on December 14, 2017, 11:18:33 AM
I don't understand why more cunts don't stick a recorder in their pocket at comedy gigs. Then again I'm a bootleg nerd.

Fucking squares.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on December 14, 2017, 11:42:23 AM
Even a soundboard audio-only version, only to be released after the tour has finished and is the material is no longer valuable, would suffice.

Couldn't cost much to quickly archive these things surely, and it's bound to be natural to want you material preserved?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: itsfredtitmus on December 14, 2017, 11:47:57 AM
I don't understand why more cunts don't stick a recorder in their pocket at comedy gigs. Then again I'm a bootleg nerd.

Fucking squares.
You have to respect rich comedians Ringside
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twit 2 on January 03, 2018, 05:08:23 PM
Did a double take driving along this afternoon when Steve Wright said his next guest was Stewart Lee. Was also surprised to hear that the former is a big fan, though he could have just been saying that. Anyway, booked tickets for Norwich, was quite gutted when it was sold out in January.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on January 03, 2018, 09:07:10 PM
He's had him on before and they seemed to get on quite well.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 03, 2018, 11:58:04 PM
I mean, just record it and bang it out on your website for a fiver a pop - presumably, little outlay for him, and a nice little earner. The Louis CK model.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 12, 2018, 05:31:04 PM
Lee's just sent a new email which is all about some jazz music thing he's done. https://capri-batterie.bandcamp.com/album/bristol-fashion

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At the invitation of the Exeter based free jazz trio capri-batterie, Stewart Lee spent an hour in a Bristol studio last October improvising words to their spontaneous sounds. These are the unfiltered results, collected as the 'Bristol Fashion' album.

Stewart is a comedian and he therefore dealt with the vocal aspect. capri-batterie is the collective name given to the drums, trumpet and bass trio of Kordian Tetkov, Tim Sayer and Matthew Lord.

I've listened to the first track and it's fucking awful. And that's being kind, it's really shockingly shit, and I'm normally a big fan of his.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on January 12, 2018, 05:34:36 PM
Mate
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mrpupkin on January 12, 2018, 08:40:51 PM
I liked it
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Urinal Cake on January 12, 2018, 08:48:05 PM
You just have to listen to other free jazz trios to understand how Lee is circumventing the form.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: TwinPeaks on January 12, 2018, 09:01:27 PM
Why's he still bothering with words? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX3TXjpn7d8 think this transcends the form really
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: all male israel on February 05, 2018, 09:10:53 PM
Came to ask if there is even some bootleg recording of this show available, but the posts on this page indicate that there isn't? I just heard his game of thrones bit on YouTube recorded by some angel criminal cunt, which was excellent
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 05, 2018, 10:02:14 PM
If any of you are interested in Stuart Lee's strange taste in music, he recently did a show with Kate Huchinson on Worldwidefm.

https://www.mixcloud.com/worldwidefm/kate-hutchinson-with-stewart-lee-24-11-17/
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: dr beat on February 05, 2018, 10:02:25 PM
Did a double take driving along this afternoon when Steve Wright said his next guest was Stewart Lee. Was also surprised to hear that the former is a big fan, though he could have just been saying that. Anyway, booked tickets for Norwich, was quite gutted when it was sold out in January.

I used to listen to Steve Wright in the Afternoon on R1 back in the late-80s/very early 90s (well I was eleven or so at the time, didn't know better), and Wright would regularly have on comedians, who while now part of the comedy establishment now, were very much up and coming then - people like Paul Merton and Jack Dee.  It was on that show that I first heard Lee and Herring, and it may well have been just as they were starting out.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 05, 2018, 10:11:33 PM
Fist of Fun made a few digs at Wright though didn't it? I seem to remember something along the lines of someone citing 'steve wright and his posse' as one of their sources in their lecture 'all art is shit, especially the stuff that doesn't look like anything'.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on February 05, 2018, 11:17:03 PM
Is that from the University of Life sketch? I listened to that recently and definitely remember that line about Steve and 'his posse'.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on February 09, 2018, 11:30:31 PM
Just got back from seeing this. While commenting on the length of the tour he said he was going go film it at the end of the run in April.

Curious to know from anyone who's seen it before whether the mic stand breaking was unique to our night or a regular prop he's using? Also the Behind The Wizards Sleeve song... which lead into a bit about the Chortle award nominations announced today, apparently, which included some digs at forum favourite Ricky Gervais?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: CaledonianGonzo on February 09, 2018, 11:32:13 PM
Doesn't ring any bells.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dr Funke on February 10, 2018, 12:14:05 PM
Podcast interview with Stew: https://audioboom.com/posts/6659202-stewart-lee-content-provider

Not listened to it yet but enjoy the podcast generally.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: shh on February 10, 2018, 04:12:33 PM
Podcast interview with Stew: https://audioboom.com/posts/6659202-stewart-lee-content-provider

There's one quote mentioned in passing that should make it on to the tour poster:

'Too parochial' Netflix
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on February 10, 2018, 06:14:52 PM
Just got back from seeing this. While commenting on the length of the tour he said he was going go film it at the end of the run in April.

Curious to know from anyone who's seen it before whether the mic stand breaking was unique to our night or a regular prop he's using? Also the Behind The Wizards Sleeve song... which lead into a bit about the Chortle award nominations announced today, apparently, which included some digs at forum favourite Ricky Gervais?

This rings a bell, could you describe it in more detail?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Satchmo Distel on February 11, 2018, 12:18:33 PM
Articles

http://www.stewartlee.co.uk/stews-writing/
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on February 12, 2018, 10:48:14 AM
Podcast interview with Stew: https://audioboom.com/posts/6659202-stewart-lee-content-provider

Not listened to it yet but enjoy the podcast generally.

He doesn't particularly say anything he hasn't aid before but he always makes for an engaging guest. I'm growing a bit tired of his 90s nostalgia however. His Gen X "everything was better in the 90s" thing is only a kick up the arse from the boomers' "everything was better in the 50s" thing - and look where that led us.

Talking of the past, looking through those old articles I was shocked to discover that the Billy Connolly/Ken Bigley furore was 14 years ago. 
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on February 12, 2018, 10:55:20 AM
Love Stew, but I don't think I can tolerate anyone talking about jazz for an extended period of time.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Famous Mortimer on February 12, 2018, 11:22:40 AM
Resonance FM has a complete set of all his releases, signed and all, on eBay as a fundraiser at the moment.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Crabwalk on February 13, 2018, 06:18:58 PM
Love Stew, but I don't think I can tolerate anyone talking about jazz for an extended period of time.

Very little on jazz, a bit on folk, bit on The Fall, lots on Jerry Springer: The Opera and the majority on his usual topics of career progression/the character Stewart Lee/Pueblo Clowns/creative process.

A good listen, though.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: hermitical on March 04, 2018, 04:47:38 PM
Anyone been to a recent show?
Been informally told to expect 2x1hr 10m plus a 20 minute interval?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on March 04, 2018, 04:56:48 PM
That's about right
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Satchmo Distel on March 12, 2018, 01:55:04 AM
Just watching back through Series 3 and 4 of Comedy Vehicle. The routine about imagining a black wife and a gay wife was the one that stayed with me most, as he's really testing out the limits of the liberal Guardianista audience there, which he also says has been priced out of London anyway (and the oligarch-friendly parody gets more laughs, or so he says).

Series 4 somtimes stretches too far beyond what can work on telly, in terms of repetition and having his character insult the audience, although I imagine it was awesome in the live trials.

Does Lee ever travel to the USA, as sadly that is my only hope of seeing him?
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on March 12, 2018, 01:59:39 AM
No, never outside the UK since the ‘90s. I can only see him if he makes it to Canada, or if I’m back in the UK at the right place at the right time which is sad
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 12, 2018, 01:40:22 PM
Seeing this tonight in Aberdeen. Bit concerned as he said Carpet Remnant World 'didn't work' there and it was amongst his flops. I was at that one and thought it was fine.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: gravy_soup_suet on March 22, 2018, 11:18:19 AM
Stew's latest email confirms that these are being filmed:

Quote
Thursday 12th - Content Provider, Palace Theatre, Southend - 01702 351135 - 7.30pm - TICKETS
Friday 13th - Content Provider, Palace Theatre, Southend - 01702 351135 - 7.30pm - TICKETS
THESE ARE FILMING DATES FOR A DVD/DL/BBC B'CAST

Interesting that a BBC broadcast might be on the cards.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: JCR on March 22, 2018, 11:54:16 PM
For fans of obscure references, Orienteering with Napalm Death is now the name of a finishing move in Japanese wrestling-

https://youtu.be/WAKgVzfpY4E?t=3m31s
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: trueusername on March 23, 2018, 12:06:53 AM
For fans of obscure references, Orienteering with Napalm Death is now the name of a finishing move in Japanese wrestling-

https://youtu.be/WAKgVzfpY4E?t=3m31s

I'm marking out. Zack Sabre Jr is one of the most exciting things happening in wrestling right now, and a Stewart Lee reference as a finisher? This is amazing!

Also another hero of mine, Stephen Merchant, is getting involved with a wrestling movie. It's all coming together.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Danger Man on March 23, 2018, 12:14:54 AM
Stew's latest email confirms that these are being filmed:

Interesting that a BBC broadcast might be on the cards.

For all his love of 'alternative' he's been on the BBC almost as much as the test card.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twit 2 on March 23, 2018, 06:45:44 AM
Seeing him in Norwich tonight. Haven’t seen any live comedy for over a decade!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 23, 2018, 10:34:12 AM
His latest email says at the end of it he intends to take his longest break from stand up after this since the early 00's.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on March 23, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
For all his love of 'alternative' he's been on the BBC almost as much as the test card.

The real bad boys go to ITV.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twit 2 on March 24, 2018, 09:29:44 AM
Norwich show was amazing. I laughed like a drain plenty of times but I was thoroughly knackered from a gruelling week so was a little detached from it all at points. I have to say, it’s a totally different experience seeing him live to on TV, as you realise all the audience shtick is kinda true, as someone said above. He was on particularly bracing and abrasive form, a lot of gasps and genuinely shocked people at times, and I think he pushed the ‘what’s real vs what’s an act’ stuff as far as it can go. I wasn’t sure what to make of it myself at times so Christ knows what people who know nothing of him made of it. His digs at Norwich being a backwater were pretty awesome. Such a weird audience mix, though, including a lot of old people in their late 70s.

The whole thing is still sifting through my mind now, there was just so much going on. Was anyone from here there last night?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ja'moke on March 27, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
I saw him in Hull last week, the show was delayed by 75 minutes (!) because the lights weren't working in Hull City Hall. I was worried he was going to end up cancelling, but good on him, he still did the entire show. It didn't end up finishing til gone 11 pm, but the delay and confusion gave the show an extra manic energy which made it even funnier. Excellent show.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: sevendaughters on March 27, 2018, 04:52:01 PM
I'd always considered myself a big Stewart Lee fan (seen him 4 times before: XS Malarkey, Lowry, Leicester Square, and Edinburgh) and I saw Content Provider in Oxford at some point last year. The more I think about the reasonably negative experience (and not the jokes, because I can't remember any) I am increasingly convinced that it wasn't because I was knackered and going through an awkward spat with my girlfriend but because I had moved on, so to speak. I can't say that 'he isn't funny' because I've bought DVDs and been on mailing lists and commented earnestly under youtube videos rebutting tools.

But I was slow to laugh, an audience member going through the motions. He was on form and he had them rolling in the aisles but I felt increasingly detached and it began a process of unpicking what I thought about him and his place in the critical pantheon and in my heart, etc. I didn't want my prejudices played to or confirmed anymore - I wanted to be shocked or surprised, something which is too much to expect from a comic you've been following for 20+ years. I've probably overthought it massively to be honest. Anyway, I saw Josie Long the next night and I laughed more at that and came away feeling much better in myself.

That said I did think the big ending was very clever.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on March 27, 2018, 05:12:14 PM
I agree. I enjoyed it but found myself waiting for the material between the usual touchstones: repetitive bit, dividing the audience, having a meltdown. He's an interesting bloke and I increasingly find myself wishing he'd further explore a subject rather than derail it with postmodern gimmicks. His interviews are great; I think i enjoyed his 2hr+ Comedian's Comedian interview about the show more than the show itself.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twit 2 on March 27, 2018, 06:11:11 PM
The ending gag about how a modern person would be narcistically posed in front of the backdrop whilst doing exactly that himself didn’t get a laugh, interstingly.

Does he go into the audience every time for a phone? He stopped the show at one point to stand at the end of the aisle behind me, back of the stalls, to demand someone hand in the phone that he claims he saw the light of. After a long stand off he conceded that it could have been the lights from the mixing desk. Also he was rude to the ushers, but I assume he has a word with them after or before to let them in on a joke? Either that, or he’s a being a genuine bastard in those bits.

I have to say, it was a very grim and puerile show. He’s funny enough to make that work, but I do like a bit of the whimsy that was more prevalent in CRW to even things out.

He really is overweight right now, he’s gonna heart attack himself into the death lists if he carries on.

(I saw Stewart Lee and he was fat and he was depressed)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: colacentral on March 27, 2018, 06:23:17 PM
Funny, I had all the above thoughts about being "over" Stewart Lee's schtick from CRW on, but I had my faith completely renewed by this show. I'd have to see it again to be sure, but I remember thinking it was probably my favourite of his.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: c on March 27, 2018, 07:46:21 PM
The ending gag about how a modern person would be narcistically posed in front of the backdrop whilst doing exactly that himself didn’t get a laugh, interstingly.

Does he go into the audience every time for a phone? He stopped the show at one point to stand at the end of the aisle behind me, back of the stalls, to demand someone hand in the phone that he claims he saw the light of. After a long stand off he conceded that it could have been the lights from the mixing desk. Also he was rude to the ushers, but I assume he has a word with them after or before to let them in on a joke? Either that, or he’s a being a genuine bastard in those bits.

I have to say, it was a very grim and puerile show. He’s funny enough to make that work, but I do like a bit of the whimsy that was more prevalent in CRW to even things out.

He really is overweight right now, he’s gonna heart attack himself into the death lists if he carries on.

(I saw Stewart Lee and he was fat and he was depressed)

Yes but is he really fat or is it 'Stewart Lee The Character' who is fat?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Genevieve on April 05, 2018, 01:10:56 AM
Many happy returns of the day, Mr Lee!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on April 05, 2018, 04:53:37 PM
Many happy returns of the day, Mr Lee!

Big five-oh!  He really is a middle-aged grump, now.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: ollyboro on April 09, 2018, 10:28:26 AM
He's on Radio 3 in the next half hour, talking about William Blake.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Genevieve on April 09, 2018, 06:41:14 PM
That was good, he will be on every weekday morning this week at 10:50am, talking about caves tomorrow.  Did you notice Ian Skelly say Comedy Vehicle was on Channel 4?  Oof!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2018, 10:33:11 PM
http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2018/06/06/40157/stewart_lee_to_return_to_the_bbc

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: colacentral on June 06, 2018, 10:40:12 PM
Not sure I want interview segments breaking the show up, unless it's just where the intermission would normally be.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on June 06, 2018, 10:53:03 PM
Herring to interview?



















JOKE!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: olliebean on June 06, 2018, 11:08:53 PM
If it's like every other stand-up show on telly, it'll have bits cut out of it anyway; probably the interview segments will be placed so as to hide the gaps.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on June 07, 2018, 07:07:41 AM
As long as his trousers still 'fall' down and he boots DVDs across the stage.

Glad this is reaching a digital form
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: RedRevolver on June 15, 2018, 03:43:00 AM
APPARENTLY, according to somefing I read in Chordle earliuh,   ***  STEW IS PLANNING BIG with SEASON FIVE of CANCELLED Comedy VEHICLE.

*** presently malfunctioning o' wise Bazza.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on June 15, 2018, 08:27:57 AM
Chortle have done that stupid internet thing of condensing something else, an interview published by Post Nearly Press which has now sold out.

If you'd like to buy a copy they'll need to see sufficient interest so please bombard them with emails at the following address.

https://postnearlypress.com/stewart-lee-reprint/ (https://postnearlypress.com/stewart-lee-reprint/)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sgt. Duckie on June 15, 2018, 01:47:26 PM
So there is talk of a fifth series?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 15, 2018, 03:49:25 PM
No, he just talks about what it might have been like had it been commissioned.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sgt. Duckie on June 15, 2018, 05:25:03 PM
No, he just talks about what it might have been like had it been commissioned.


Cheers SMBH
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: kitsofan34 on June 15, 2018, 07:10:43 PM
This broadcasts on Sunday, the 8th of JULY in the Year of Our Lord, 2018, at 11p.m.

Hugs and kisses,
kitso.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: olliebean on June 15, 2018, 08:06:38 PM
Chortle have done that stupid internet thing of condensing something else, an interview published by Post Nearly Press which has now sold out.

If you'd like to buy a copy they'll need to see sufficient interest so please bombard them with emails at the following address.

https://postnearlypress.com/stewart-lee-reprint/ (https://postnearlypress.com/stewart-lee-reprint/)

£8.75 for a 26-page booklet? Not that interested. I can buy one of his proper full-length books for less than that, and I won't have to beg for the privilege.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Pseudopath on June 15, 2018, 08:26:54 PM
This broadcasts on Sunday, the 8th of June in the Year of Our Lord, 2018, at 11p.m.

Hugs and kisses,
kitso.

Ah...bollocks. Missed it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: rasta-spouse on June 15, 2018, 09:26:06 PM
Chortle have done that stupid internet thing of condensing something else, an interview published by Post Nearly Press which has now sold out.

If you'd like to buy a copy they'll need to see sufficient interest so please bombard them with emails at the following address.

https://postnearlypress.com/stewart-lee-reprint/ (https://postnearlypress.com/stewart-lee-reprint/)

Might get this for the Sean Hughes head-messing stuff. I always though he was intensely passive-aggressive to his podcast guests, and wondered why no one mentioned it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Paaaaul on June 15, 2018, 10:20:11 PM
Stew's taking the Ted Chippington homage even further by filling Ted's usual support slot on The Nightingales' next your in October. He's only doing his '80s material.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Paaaaul on June 16, 2018, 06:56:25 PM
Oops.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: olliebean on July 03, 2018, 01:22:36 PM
This broadcasts on Sunday, the 8th of JULY in the Year of Our Lord, 2018, at 11p.m.

Hugs and kisses,
kitso.

It's been put back to Saturday, 28th July, still at 11pm.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 03, 2018, 03:02:31 PM
It's been put back to Saturday, 28th July, still at 11pm.

Aye. Just got his email.

A 2 hr film of the Content Provider Tour is on BBC on Saturday 28th July at 11pm, not earlier in the month on July 8th as previously announced.

Already the joke about the status of European migrants is dated.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 04, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
The BBC press previews site seems to think it's going out on 4th August. Confusion reigns.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 04, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Huh. I'll trust Stewart over those BBC lot!!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mojo filters on July 12, 2018, 08:17:36 AM
Stew confirmed it's now the 4th, with another joke about outdated jokes. Plus for those who don't have SLCV already, full 4 series box set appearing on iPlayer soon!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Tony Yeboah on July 18, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
Back to Saturday 28th July, but at 10.45pm https://www.beyondthejoke.co.uk/content/5991/news-date-confirmed-bbc-broadcast-stewart-lees-content-provider
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dr Rock on July 18, 2018, 11:42:31 AM
I'm very excited about this.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: olliebean on July 18, 2018, 12:05:30 PM
I've set a timer to record this so they'd better not change it again.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 18, 2018, 07:38:00 PM
Stew confirmed it's now the 4th, with another joke about outdated jokes. Plus for those who don't have SLCV already, full 4 series box set appearing on iPlayer soon!

Just looked.... All of Comedy Vehicle is on iplayer now!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mojo filters on July 19, 2018, 01:55:23 PM
Just looked.... All of Comedy Vehicle is on iplayer now!

Although I've got the DVDs, it's a right hassle watching that way versus simple streaming these days. Hence I started binging Comedy Vehicle on iPlayer, beginning with series 1.

It must be some time since I last watched all those episodes. Whilst I remembered all the best lines, I'd either forgotten or just never noticed quite how intrusive and relatively less funny most of the sketches are. At times their insertion unnecessarily throws off the rhythm Stew's so carefully building.

Whilst it's great to see familiar faces like Kevin Eldon and Paul Putner, I completely understand why he changed the format for subsequent series. I was quite happy in S4 to completely forgo the sketch at the end, as Morris' hostile interrogation was perfectly sufficient and probably funnier!

I vaguely remember an interview where Stew references the deliberate change, after S1. I also recall him talking about budget changes from BBC policy arising from the Ross and Brand controversy, though don't know if he linked that to reducing the sketches - or if it was purely an artistic decision? If it was deliberate cost cutting, it appears rather serendipitous. But knowing Stew, I would quite understand him so effectively refining the format - to better suit his stand up style, within the constraints of a half hour TV show.

Do other fans find those sketches during the first series as unnecessary and sometimes rather annoying, or do you think they suit the format well? I wasn't the biggest TMWRNJ fan, but I did love some of pre-recorded material, especially Angus Deayton's Authorised History Of Alternative Comedy.

There was one particular bit I'd never noticed before in S1, which was really jarring this time around. Stew acts out a bit involving a small child talking to either a parent or grandparent, which was eerily similar in both voice and manner to Ricky Gervais in (In)Humanity, possibly his earlier shows too. Previously all the Gervais plagiarism / similarities I'd noticed were from much earlier work - such as the brilliant dog and kittens postcard bit, a side of London you don't see so often...

It does seem strange that neither Armando nor Chris are doing the CV style questions for the BBC Content Provider broadcast. Unless they've found someone similarly good, I can't see any old hack making that shtick work as well as seasoned viewers will expect. It would have been a neat idea for a twist to a conventional long-form stand up TV edit, with either of those familiar voices involved.

However it's a small price, if that's what it takes to get such a great show finally on the telly...broadcast scheduling and dated humour about current affairs not withstanding!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on July 19, 2018, 02:08:02 PM
I do believe it's Alan Moore doing the interview bits this time around
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mojo filters on July 19, 2018, 02:27:34 PM
I do believe it's Alan Moore doing the interview bits this time around

Thanks for sharing that! At least we already have some idea of how the two interact. I don't really know much about Alan Moore's own work, but he seems like an interesting and unusual person from what I've seen.

Do you know if he will be asking questions in the manner of a hostile interrogator, or will it be more of a normal informal interview style?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on July 19, 2018, 02:34:30 PM
I've no idea. I imagine he'll bring his more avuncular style to the interviews, Lee obviously briefs his interviewers to give him the needle, but they bring their own personality to it; probably it'll be more similar to the Johnny Vegas one on 90s Comedian (or was it 41st Best Standup?) than the Morris ones.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 19, 2018, 02:50:35 PM
I do believe it's Alan Moore doing the interview bits this time around

No idea of his comic chops (no pun intended), but that's something to look forward to, and I agree with the above that so far each interviewer seems to lend their own style albeit always couched in making Stew the character look foolish, by design..

I'm likewise going to binge through Comedy Vehicle. My overriding memory of the first series is crap sketches, apart from like, the Apple Shop one, none have endured.

Perhaps he was making a sop to the TV format with those.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 19, 2018, 02:50:50 PM
I vaguely remember an interview where Stew references the deliberate change, after S1. I also recall him talking about budget changes from BBC policy arising from the Ross and Brand controversy, though don't know if he linked that to reducing the sketches - or if it was purely an artistic decision? If it was deliberate cost cutting, it appears rather serendipitous. But knowing Stew, I would quite understand him so effectively refining the format - to better suit his stand up style, within the constraints of a half hour TV show.

I could be wrong but I'm sure I read that it was due to the budget cuts that he couldn't do the sketches any more, and if they'd had the same budget for series one he would have kept on doing them. It's not a great source, but this page seems to back that up: https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/152881394?q&versionId=166615062
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 19, 2018, 04:41:23 PM
Edit reason : Boring post
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: islandboy on July 19, 2018, 06:24:14 PM
Just looked.... All of Comedy Vehicle is on iplayer now!

i notice sadowitz has been edited out of the religion episode
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Hecate on July 19, 2018, 06:37:32 PM
Feels a bit "too little, too late" as far as Savile is concerned, but what the hell, if it helps them sleep at night.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Wet Blanket on July 19, 2018, 08:17:29 PM
Sadowitz himself probably made them take it out, he polices every other appearance he makes on the internet, after all.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 20, 2018, 08:43:14 PM
Totally haven't just fired up get_iplayer
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 20, 2018, 08:48:57 PM
My overriding memory of the first series is crap sketches, apart from like, the Apple Shop one, none have endured.


Putner was great in that.  Love the end, where he has a breakdown and starts tearing his clothes.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mojo filters on July 21, 2018, 01:49:07 AM
Putner was great in that.  Love the end, where he has a breakdown and starts tearing his clothes,

I thought the whole Apple Shop sketch was exceptionally well done. If all of the sketches had been conceived, written and executed to that high standard - I doubt I'd find anything to criticise about their inclusion!

The Apple Shop was brilliantly effective in that respective episode, working on more than one level:

i) a sketch tied directly to the stand up subject material surrounding it, making the insertion smooth, coherent and perfectly in context.

ii) there was a noticeable overall style and theme, whereby everything from the written elements to the random free jazz trombone lady - combined to create a retro absurd aesthetic, paying homage to various influential and familiar older TV comedy sketches, in particular referencing Monty Python and Dave Allen, whilst also reminiscent of Armando Iannucci's own more modern material.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 21, 2018, 09:43:30 AM
I always liked the trigger sketch for the bit with Putner in it.

'We all get together and there's no harm in it.'
'I never said there was any harm in it!'
'Good. Because there isn't'
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: a duncandisorderly on July 21, 2018, 10:48:36 AM
Totally haven't just fired up get_iplayer

does that still work? I need off-line stuff for the kids' ipads...
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 21, 2018, 11:07:00 AM
does that still work? I need off-line stuff for the kids' ipads...

Yep. I did have to update it to get it to pull in box sets.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Delete Delete Delete on July 21, 2018, 11:14:23 AM
How did you do that?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 21, 2018, 11:31:30 AM
How did you do that?

Code: [Select]
get_iplayer --url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0112b65/ --modes=best --pid-recursive
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Delete Delete Delete on July 22, 2018, 10:40:27 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 28, 2018, 11:14:40 AM
Content Provider is tonight! His latest email reminded me so looks like it won't be moved again (he says, jinxing it)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dr Rock on July 28, 2018, 11:27:08 AM
I've been counting the days!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: rasta-spouse on July 28, 2018, 12:16:11 PM
Looking forward to it, but have concerns after SLCV Series 4 was all his quirks taken to painful extremes.

This must be the first time there's been a 2hr stand-up special on a big BBC channel - in a long time, or ever.   
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 28, 2018, 03:00:32 PM
Can't wait for the dividing-the-room shtick to baffle viewers at home, eh, viewers at home?

I liked this show when I saw it live and hope my favourite bits are preserved.  Should still be a bit fresh considering I saw it once and he toured it for a while after.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Thomas on July 28, 2018, 04:30:40 PM
Looking forward to it, but have concerns after SLCV Series 4 was all his quirks taken to painful extremes.

Here's a recap of each series from a recent Stewie Lee Fan Club Official Email -

Quote
Series 1) (2008) ragbag of unrelated routines of a reasonable quality interrupted with sketches that have been decreed of mixed virtues, with Stew in a suit at execs' insistence.

Series 2 (2010) and 3) (2013) Routines specifically worked out and written for half hour format with a single film item each week and Stew in a suit jacket.
Series 2 featured a guitar.

Series 4) (2015) The most stylistically extreme routines of the project performed, to an often baffled crowd compromised by BBC liggers and people's suspicious friends, by Stew in a shirt.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: solidified gruel merchant on July 28, 2018, 10:16:04 PM
Is this gonna get a dvd release then?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Danger Man on July 28, 2018, 10:53:51 PM
Stewart Lee's let himself go.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Phil_A on July 28, 2018, 11:19:41 PM
Alan bloody Moore!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Danger Man on July 28, 2018, 11:23:12 PM
This is like watching a really good tribute act
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 28, 2018, 11:23:52 PM
Just let me know when it’s on iplayer so I can be region locked and unable to watch it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 28, 2018, 11:31:00 PM
Watching football so got this on record

Just so you know, thread

Thx
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Fried Egg Sandwich on July 28, 2018, 11:32:28 PM
Are his shoes part of the act?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Danger Man on July 28, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
41st Best Stand-Up suits this one much better.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on July 28, 2018, 11:44:07 PM
Are his shoes part of the act?

His trousers were when I saw it live
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dr Rock on July 28, 2018, 11:49:47 PM
What's his t-shirt? Looks like ALUZES CHUDES.
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Post by: Danger Man on July 28, 2018, 11:58:08 PM
"He must be drunk"


Hmmmm……...
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Post by: darby o chill on July 29, 2018, 12:00:48 AM
What's his t-shirt? Looks like ALUZES CHUDES.

(https://i.imgur.com/jSFVhzS.jpg)
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Post by: New Jack on July 29, 2018, 12:04:29 AM
What's his t-shirt? Looks like ALUZES CHUDES.
Les Rallizes Dénudés

Japanese band innit

You stupid Warhammer twats
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Post by: Danger Man on July 29, 2018, 12:12:49 AM
Bored
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Post by: New Jack on July 29, 2018, 12:14:09 AM
Trousers!
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Post by: Danger Man on July 29, 2018, 12:17:30 AM
Some cellulitis on the right knee?
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Post by: Dr Rock on July 29, 2018, 12:18:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/jSFVhzS.jpg)

Cheers! Never heard of em.
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Post by: New Jack on July 29, 2018, 12:20:52 AM
Some cellulitis on the right knee?

He's got jeans on they're crinkled mate
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Post by: Nowhere Man on July 29, 2018, 12:21:58 AM
Brings back memories of the last tour. Fucking brilliant lads, been laughing like a drain 
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Post by: Danger Man on July 29, 2018, 12:22:19 AM
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He's got jeans on they're crinkled mate

I was mocking him.

He once claimed to have cellulitis but now it's clear he was fibbing for comic effect.
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Post by: New Jack on July 29, 2018, 12:22:52 AM
^mock the weak (knee)?

Alan Moore blinks a lot
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Post by: Sgt. Duckie on July 29, 2018, 12:26:52 AM
Laughing away but definitely several crates of sherry consumed by our hero for this one. The trousers stayed up when I saw this.
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Post by: Danger Man on July 29, 2018, 12:27:57 AM
Stew finally goes full BDSM.

Most sincere bit of the show.
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Post by: New Jack on July 29, 2018, 12:30:51 AM
Lots of this I saw but it's ace

Grrr millennials!

This is the final arc to a great ending, if its what I saw...
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Post by: Danger Man on July 29, 2018, 12:33:15 AM
They all had gas masks Stew....
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Post by: New Jack on July 29, 2018, 12:42:10 AM
Sounds like Biggy bitching about a female Dr Who, the fuckjug

Here's the payoff!

The Wanderer Above The Sea of Fog
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Post by: Salty_fries on July 29, 2018, 12:49:51 AM
Surprisingly, that was better than I remembered it being.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 29, 2018, 02:09:32 AM
How do I watch iplayer outside the uk? Asking for a friend, like.
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Post by: a duncandisorderly on July 29, 2018, 11:07:53 AM
How do I watch iplayer outside the uk? Asking for a friend, like.

I use a vpn service which costs me £5/month on top of paying my license fee. I'm in madrid one week in four so I have to do this, also for the mrs to watch the beeb. I'm annoyed about it, but it works.

http://www.ukivpn.com/
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 29, 2018, 11:52:07 AM
How do I watch iplayer outside the uk? Asking for a friend, like.

It's also available to download via ReleaseBB now.
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Post by: selectivememory on July 29, 2018, 12:24:35 PM
Really great to have finally seen this, as I didn't make it to a show during the tour. I thought it was fantastic. Maybe not as tightly-structured as some of his other shows, but it frequently had me in bits (although maybe I've just missed him, as it's been a while since the last series of Comedy Vehicle). He's still the best stand-up for me. Just seems leagues apart from what anyone else is doing (although I don't see nearly as much stand-up as a lot of people on this forum).
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Post by: Danger Man on July 29, 2018, 12:55:42 PM
Kitson is still the daddy.
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Post by: NoSleep on July 29, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Well impressed by the Les Rallizes Denudes t-shirt.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 29, 2018, 03:19:11 PM
The face Stew pulls when his pants fall down is really disconcerting.
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Post by: Phil_A on July 29, 2018, 04:27:14 PM
The face Stew pulls when his pants fall down is really disconcerting.

Yeah, it all went a bit David Lynch at that point.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/Wd6ORnBp7tuus/giphy.gif)
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Post by: Ptyx on July 29, 2018, 05:19:59 PM
Couldn't really get into it, will have to try again. Is this meant as a serious follow-up to Carpet Remnant World? Felt a bit lacking in pacing/structure, at least the beginning.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 29, 2018, 06:08:46 PM
Really enjoyed it. Satisfying conclusion, when he carried the picture across the stage a couple times to re-draw the audience’s attention to it (combined with the backdrop of old DVDs) I knew something was up.

Biggest laugh for me was the credits when a woman walked up to the stage, picked up an old DVD, considered it, then threw it back on the ground. Magic.
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Post by: weaseldust on July 29, 2018, 06:13:34 PM
i thought it was just excellent and i shed tears multiple times. i loved it a lot. i enjoyed the weird face and was also a bit surprised that he could make that face.
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Post by: up_the_hampipe on July 29, 2018, 08:39:31 PM
Come on guys, this must be available somewhere other than iPlayer by now.
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Post by: Delete Delete Delete on July 29, 2018, 08:46:02 PM
The problem is how do you share a 5gb file.
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Post by: chrispmartha on July 29, 2018, 08:48:15 PM
Not sure if it’s his best stand up show but... still leagues above any other stand up comedian IMO
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Post by: up_the_hampipe on July 29, 2018, 09:02:24 PM
The problem is how do you share a 5gb file.

Carrier pigeon?
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 29, 2018, 09:08:22 PM
Come on guys, this must be available somewhere other than iPlayer by now.

Have sent you a link to a 1.4gb file, if anyone else wants it just pm me.
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 29, 2018, 09:24:44 PM
Fucking brilliant! Haven't laughed like that in an age.
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Post by: Blue Jam on July 29, 2018, 09:26:46 PM
That's a lot of Henning Wehn DVDs.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 29, 2018, 09:36:36 PM
That's a lot of Henning Wehn DVDs.
I was wondering how much the quantity of each comedian's DVDs in CEX change from place to place.

When I saw Stewart Lee in the CEX in Liverpool City Centre he was mostly buying Jimmy Carr, Ricky Gervais and Russell Brand DVDs if I remember correctly.
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Post by: CaledonianGonzo on July 29, 2018, 09:44:38 PM
I definitely spied a few copies of Gervais's Fame show.
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Post by: olliebean on July 29, 2018, 10:25:37 PM
The problem is how do you share a 5gb file.

The annoying thing is it needn't be that big. For no obvious reason, iPlayer now serves all HD video at 50fps, even though the vast majority of the videos only contain 25 unique frames per second, so all the files are twice the size they need to be, and streaming them uses up twice the bandwidth it ought to.
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Post by: magval on July 29, 2018, 10:36:48 PM
I've just had a quick look and CEX doesn't seem to sell any DVDs for less than 50p.

Even at that, that stage dressing couldn't have been cheap.
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Post by: Zetetic on July 30, 2018, 12:05:38 AM
The annoying thing is it needn't be that big. For no obvious reason, iPlayer now serves all HD video at 50fps, even though the vast majority of the videos only contain 25 unique frames per second, so all the files are twice the size they need to be, and streaming them uses up twice the bandwidth it ought to.
I don't think that's how the relationship between bitrate and frames-per-second works for video encoding. They picked a bitrate based on targeting 5 Mbps broadband.

(Repeating the previous frame in H264 is something like 15 bytes?)
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Post by: Twed on July 30, 2018, 12:07:37 AM
TVChaos if you've got access. PM me if you get really desperate.
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Post by: gib on July 30, 2018, 12:12:09 AM
Surprisingly, that was better than I remembered it being.

Yeah, when i saw him i was underwhelmed by the sub-CaB brexit/trump stuff but on telly the other bits did make me laugh. Did you see the southend one they filmed?
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 30, 2018, 12:29:57 AM
I had a look around reddit, looks like someone added it to a google drive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/notapanelshow/comments/92v41u/stewart_lee_content_provider/
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Post by: Cursus on July 30, 2018, 06:45:51 AM
Well impressed by the Les Rallizes Denudes t-shirt.

Garry Bushell (in the Star) disagrees:

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Lee wore a Les Rallizes Dénudés T-shirt. The 60s band were renowned for their tediously repetitive instrumental passages and painful use of guitar feedback. Pretentious? Naturally.

Unfunny face of TV comedy (https://www.dailystar.co.uk/columnists/garry-bushell/719766/stewart-lee-comedy-stand-up-bbc-hot-tv)

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We can’t be sure which part of his marathon snooze-athon appealed most to the BBC.

But I’ll go out on a limb and suggest it was when Lee put the boot into Brexit supporters.

“It wasn’t just racists who voted to leave Europe,” he sneered.

“C***s did as well, stupid f***ing c***s”. Wow. Such wit! Such subtle elegance! Truly he is the Oscar Wilde of our times...

Lardy Lee describes modern Britain as “a chaotic inferno of hate”. The seaside town of Southend, where he recorded the show, is “a hive of racists”.

And non-city people are ignorant “trolls”.

He claims to be playing a caricature of himself, but there’s too much venom in his material for it to be just an act.

Educated at private school and Oxford, Lee represents a privileged world view that sees itself as radical but really isn’t.

He once said that comedy’s job isn’t to protect power structures, but doesn’t seem to have noticed how corrupt, unaccountable, inefficient and institutionally anti-democratic the EU is.

Lee had a dig at me for saying his anti- comedy shtick appealed to the “Metropolitan liberal elite”. But that’s a fact.

The Times newspaper recently – madly – dubbed him the funniest person alive. The establishment seal of approval. That’s how unthreatening he is.

And here’s a scary thing, scarier even than the thought of Big Mo in Victoria’s Secret lace-time baby-doll lingerie: thousands of posers and snobs agree.

Many of them work in TV and share his contempt for everyday people and popular comedy.

Lee hates Fools & Horses and lays into more successful turns (Jimmy Carr, Corden, McIntyre, drivelling goon Russell Howard...), stomping on their DVDs.

He is a Twitter mob made flesh, and over-nourished flesh at that – an intolerant smartarse who despises anyone he disagrees with.

Lee’s act is the comedy of self-indulgence. It isn’t anything most people would recognise as humour. But then it’s not meant for us.

We’re just the mugs whose licence fee money has subsidised his bile-spewing career for decades.

I’d rather neck a Novichok smoothie than suffer that again.
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Post by: Hecate on July 30, 2018, 06:56:13 AM
About to read an article by Garry Bushell on the daily star website

(https://i.imgur.com/Kh6v0bw.jpg)

You know what, when you put it like that, I'm off for a smoke, there's fight in me yet.
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Post by: bomb_dog on July 30, 2018, 07:41:12 AM
If Bushell had added about ‘putting his foot through the TV and sending the BBC the bill’, this would be a perfect Viz letter.

It’s almost transparent in its desire to be part of Stu’s next show, though Bushell surely, must be playing a version of himself to appear to be this wilfully ignorant of how Lee’s routine worked.
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Post by: The Boston Crab on July 30, 2018, 08:19:32 AM
Probably the most I've laughed at any comedy in two years. His Carpet show was not very funny.
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Post by: DrGreggles on July 30, 2018, 08:21:41 AM
Garry Bushell (in the Star) disagrees:

Unfunny face of TV comedy (https://www.dailystar.co.uk/columnists/garry-bushell/719766/stewart-lee-comedy-stand-up-bbc-hot-tv)

Stew will surely put some of those quotes on his next poster.
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Post by: olliebean on July 30, 2018, 08:51:50 AM
I don't think that's how the relationship between bitrate and frames-per-second works for video encoding. They picked a bitrate based on targeting 5 Mbps broadband.

(Repeating the previous frame in H264 is something like 15 bytes?)

5 Mbps is completely over the top for 720p at 25fps, and lots of people still have broadband that won't be able to handle it and will fall back to the SD streams. They used to have proper 25fps HD streams that were half the size and exactly the same quality, but those are gone now.
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Post by: José on July 30, 2018, 08:55:45 AM
i liked how the existential dread conjured by watching stew deteriorate in front of our very eyes is cleverly incorporated into the material.
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Post by: NoSleep on July 30, 2018, 09:02:58 AM
Garry Bushell (in the Star) disagrees:

Unfunny face of TV comedy (https://www.dailystar.co.uk/columnists/garry-bushell/719766/stewart-lee-comedy-stand-up-bbc-hot-tv)

So a cloth-eared cunt dislikes Stewart Lee.
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Post by: Petey Pate on July 30, 2018, 09:32:22 AM
Well impressed by the Les Rallizes Denudes t-shirt.

They were featured on the Japan episode of Baconface's Global Globules - not surprised that Lee is a fan.

http://www.baconfacecanada.com/global-globules/episode-4-japan/
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Post by: jobotic on July 30, 2018, 09:57:13 AM
Stew will surely put some of those quotes on his next poster.

Hope not. Hope he ignores the cunt completely.
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Post by: magval on July 30, 2018, 10:29:48 AM
Is it common to write reviews in bulletpoints?
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Post by: DrGreggles on July 30, 2018, 10:43:04 AM
Is it common to write reviews in bulletpoints?

It's probably common for him to write reviews in crayon.
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Post by: New Jack on July 30, 2018, 11:09:18 AM
When I saw him live he did the 'ask audience for price that turns out unsuitable,£5??' bit that seems, well, a bit

The front sea of DVDs wasn't there at the show I went to, so he must have gone CEX-crazy for this recorded show.

Seemed to have a better flow in the first half here, I seem to remember more Deacon Blue references.
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Post by: poodlefaker on July 30, 2018, 11:24:22 AM
Christ he's looking rough in this. Johnny Vegas has let himself go.
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Post by: rasta-spouse on July 30, 2018, 11:34:43 AM
Put a suit on man!

First 45 minutes were pure auto-pilot. They're his cliches and he can milk them all he likes, but it felt like a substitute for material here. Then there was some stuff about Sky and Russell Howard, and I was proper into it.

I'm wondering whether a portion of the audience actually like the "this gig is a real struggle for me because of you" or "I could do real jokes if I wanted to" shtick. I'm totally bored by it - and only partly because I don't think its true. But maybe for some people it's like a band doing their greatest hits or something, and that's what they came to see. Ok, but it seems to be dominating the show.
 
2nd half much better, and the last 30 minutes of mad ranting was great. No new (stylistic or otherwise) territory explored though, and at this point you could invent a drinking game around his tropes and need help getting home by the end of the show.

The thing I laughed the loudest at: the washing the daughter line, straight outta the working mens club. What am I like?
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Post by: Twit 2 on July 30, 2018, 11:42:43 AM
Christ he's looking rough in this. Johnny Vegas has let himself go.

Was it recorded near the end of the run? I saw him in Norwich nearer the end and was quite taken aback by how massively unhealthy he looked. Like, genuinely dead soon. He should quit touring and just write stuff and go jogging in the countryside (isn’t this more or less his plan anyway?).
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Post by: Hecate on July 30, 2018, 11:45:33 AM
I enjoyed it alright and smiled but didn't feel the need to laugh at any point. Maybe taking a break from stand up might be a good idea.

I feel like one of those people, every time he has a new show, there are always a few slightly longer in the tooth fans that'll tell you how bored they are of his shtick and I always think "but this show was easily his best yet!", I think I might have gotten to that point now, or maybe it just depends on what mood you're in when you watch it.

I might watch it again, just to make sure.
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Post by: Captain Z on July 30, 2018, 12:04:26 PM
I saw it live and enjoyed it equally upon rewatching. I've found all of his shows consistently funny, I would say CV Series 3 and 4 are the things I enjoyed least but this felt like a return to form.

I actually got a bootleg audio recording of the show I was at. It was only 4 months ago so not too different from the TV broadcast, but there certainly were a few additional tangents. I feel a bit guilty but at the time people were saying he was never going to record it, and then I didn't want to mention it until it had been released or broadcast. But if anyone was interested I could sort out a link.
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Post by: rasta-spouse on July 30, 2018, 12:14:29 PM
Quote
But if anyone was interested I could sort out a link.

Yes please, always interested in the additions and subtractions.

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Post by: New Jack on July 30, 2018, 12:33:20 PM
Was it recorded near the end of the run? I saw him in Norwich nearer the end and was quite taken aback by how massively unhealthy he looked. Like, genuinely dead soon. He should quit touring and just write stuff and go jogging in the countryside (isn’t this more or less his plan anyway?).

This April

Looks fat
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Post by: olliebean on July 30, 2018, 01:04:25 PM
But if anyone was interested I could sort out a link.

I also would be interested in this.
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Post by: Salty_fries on July 30, 2018, 02:22:19 PM
Did anyone notice things that where cut? Admittedly I left the room a few times for a lash, but I don't recall hearing the Folk/Jazz Richard Herring joke, nor him explicitly naming the "20-something comedian" voice as John Robins.

Yeah, when i saw him i was underwhelmed by the sub-CaB brexit/trump stuff but on telly the other bits did make me laugh. Did you see the southend one they filmed?

Naw, I was at the second Norwich date. Watching it live, his usual style of "ooh, these people are laughing but these ones aren't" felt a bit dull, having seen it so much over the years. I don't know why, but the telly version seemed more fun and energised.

Was it recorded near the end of the run? I saw him in Norwich nearer the end and was quite taken aback by how massively unhealthy he looked. Like, genuinely dead soon. He should quit touring and just write stuff and go jogging in the countryside (isn’t this more or less his plan anyway?).

I asked him after the gig and it seems he's making a Radio 4 doc about that band he's touring with. He's also still doing benefit gigs. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYiCjer-Z5E&list=LL_UwEWjErlCho4SGTNKoL-Q&index=5&t=0s) (click only if you're strong enough to see his new beard)
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Post by: Artemis on July 30, 2018, 05:06:12 PM
I'm wondering whether a portion of the audience actually like the "this gig is a real struggle for me because of you" or "I could do real jokes if I wanted to" shtick. I'm totally bored by it - and only partly because I don't think its true. But maybe for some people it's like a band doing their greatest hits or something, and that's what they came to see. Ok, but it seems to be dominating the show.

It's certainly tired material at this point, but it makes a certain demographic that enjoy him feel special because in a way it's partly true - there is a sophistication to his comedy. Punchlines that exist in offbeats and realisations; abstract metaphors and a necessity to join dots. My irritation with him is that in some ways he's become what he initially set himself apart from. He'd satirise the 'liberal elite' but now they're his bread and butter and his act is dependent on them, in a way. It's a calling card, and although his act is more nuanced, in that context it isn't much different from Gervais or other comics that establish a relationship with something they ridicule then depend on for their act.

I saw Content Provider pretty early in its run and I'm interested in how the televised version changed, but it's disappointing to hear him lazily indulging in a persona that comics more driven towards fresh material would have put to pasture years previously.
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Post by: olliebean on July 30, 2018, 05:16:48 PM
My irritation with him is that in some ways he's become what he initially set himself apart from. He'd satirise the 'liberal elite' but now they're his bread and butter and his act is dependent on them, in a way.

No, the point is that the "liberal elite" don't exist, except in the minds of people who use the term to insult people like Lee and his fans. He's leaned into it ironically, you see? Aaaaah.
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Post by: Schnapple on July 30, 2018, 08:32:11 PM
Stew's impression of his 'normal fans' and the 'young comedians' are funnier than ever.
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Post by: Autopsy Turvey on July 30, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Stew's impression of his 'normal fans' and the 'young comedians' are funnier than ever.

Quite agree.

As for the set, there were far more DVDs onstage than when I saw him, but I guess he got a load more in for the recording? I'd be surprised if people haven't been donating their own collections. Why take a bag of ten-year-old Xmas presents to Oxfam when you can dump them on Stew's stage?
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Post by: Danger Man on July 30, 2018, 10:19:11 PM
Stew's impression of his 'normal fans' and the 'young comedians' are funnier than ever.

Really? They reminded me of Tony Hancock near the end of his life.
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Post by: arpster on July 30, 2018, 11:40:54 PM
fuck me, I haven't laughed like that for a very long time indeed...a ridiculously funny 2 hours of standup with Stew at the top of his game...in fact, the best Ive seen him since he vomited into the gaping anus of Christ.....the Alan Moore interludes worked a treat too.....marvelous
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Post by: Mango Chimes on July 31, 2018, 12:02:23 AM
I'm wondering whether a portion of the audience actually like the "this gig is a real struggle for me because of you" or "I could do real jokes if I wanted to" shtick. I'm totally bored by it - and only partly because I don't think its true. But maybe for some people it's like a band doing their greatest hits or something, and that's what they came to see.

Yeah, I've watched the first ten minutes and can't be bothered with the rest. It's utter fucking boring shit, and it was tired and overdone when he was doing it ten years ago – I'm amazed he's still doing it with no real variation or twist whatsover, and I'm even more amazed that the audience laps it up. What's that, Stu? That joke didn't get the reaction it deserved, did it not? And/or did it get a notably big reaction? And/or the neutral option? Was it because this part of the audience is like this and that part of the audience is like that? Do go on.
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Post by: Schnapple on July 31, 2018, 12:12:16 AM
Really? They reminded me of Tony Hancock near the end of his life.

They're just so absurd and overwrought, and in the case of his 'people under 40' impression, needlessly petty and embittered. Given Stew's reputation among for being the 'highbrow' comic, he's never afraid to make a total fucking idiot of himself, such as throughout the pantless clapping routine here.

I didn't go and see this on tour, which I think helped. I was once also increasingly bored of the 'deconstruction' shtick, but this all felt vey fresh and funny to me.
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Post by: Avril Lavigne on July 31, 2018, 12:30:57 AM
They're just so absurd and overwrought, and in the case of his 'people under 40' impression, needlessly petty and embittered.

I don't know if it's down to me living in the midlands but I was speechless at how accurate the younger-people impressions were to actual 20-somethings I know, to the point where I spoke with a friend on the phone about it afterwards and specified some of them by name.
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Post by: Artemis on July 31, 2018, 01:03:04 AM
No, the point is that the "liberal elite" don't exist, except in the minds of people who use the term to insult people like Lee and his fans.

And in the minds of those who quietly think of themselves as the liberal elite, although they wouldn't use (or consciously think of) those terms of course, except as a way to make fun of people they disagree with by characterising them as people who'd use a phrase they actually quite enjoy being defined as. Hence both the laughing and agreeing, and the sense among many that some of Stew's audience are a smug bunch of self-satisfied cunts. I know this to be true because I am a self-satisfied cunt, in-between agreeing and laughing.
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Post by: The Boston Crab on July 31, 2018, 06:32:54 AM
I thought the impression of the younger comic was the funniest thing he's done in years.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: bgmnts on July 31, 2018, 08:52:17 AM
It is sad to hear all this about Stewart Lee now as he is probably my favourite stand up and i don't know many others like him as a performer and with his material.

Some of his stuff is the cleverest and funniest shit I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Neomod on July 31, 2018, 10:07:24 AM
Just downloaded with getiplayer and it's 1.5 gig. Where are people getting 5gb downloads from?
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 31, 2018, 10:38:01 AM
It is sad to hear all this about Stewart Lee now as he is probably my favourite stand up and i don't know many others like him as a performer and with his material.

Some of his stuff is the cleverest and funniest shit I have ever heard.

Sad to hear what?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on July 31, 2018, 10:43:37 AM
Sad to hear what?

He's quitting comedy again, isn't he?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 31, 2018, 10:49:12 AM
He's quitting comedy again, isn't he?

Probably fancies a break.

This TripAdvisor review of his show made me laugh.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g187049-d3367969-r339736375-Wyvern_Theatre-Swindon_Wiltshire_England.html

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on July 31, 2018, 11:20:38 AM
Yeah, I've watched the first ten minutes and can't be bothered with the rest. It's utter fucking boring shit, and it was tired and overdone when he was doing it ten years ago – I'm amazed he's still doing it with no real variation or twist whatsover, and I'm even more amazed that the audience laps it up. What's that, Stu? That joke didn't get the reaction it deserved, did it not? And/or did it get a notably big reaction? And/or the neutral option? Was it because this part of the audience is like this and that part of the audience is like that? Do go on.

I mean, if you watch more than 10 minutes you'll see him do a new joke about why something didn't get laughs, but whatever.

He'll carry on doing it until people stop laughing. At which point the joke will be that finally there are no new people and it will become funny again.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: olliebean on July 31, 2018, 12:14:19 PM
Just downloaded with getiplayer and it's 1.5 gig. Where are people getting 5gb downloads from?

That'll be the SD (540p) version. The HD (720p) version is nearly 5 gigs.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: bgmnts on July 31, 2018, 12:33:36 PM
Sad to hear what?

A lot of negative feedback.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on July 31, 2018, 12:48:58 PM
There has been plenty of (more, in fact) positive feedback though?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on July 31, 2018, 12:50:49 PM
There has been plenty of (more, in fact) positive feedback though?

He's split the roomboard.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Tikwid on July 31, 2018, 03:23:16 PM
Seems to be even more references to Lee's past shows than usual in this one. The Comedy Vehicle style cutaway bits, the mention of the rap singers, the classic "...ok the reason that joke's funny" shtick, and one that stood out for me: the potato sack gimp mask bit seemed almost like a spiritual successor to 100% pears cider. A faux-nostalgic look back at something produce-related Stew's ancestors used to do in rural Worcestershire, followed by him raging about the the meaning the tradition has lost with the advent of modernity and mass communication - even with a reference to him record shopping ("there's a rat in the kitchen"). Then again callbacks are very much his forte, so having this show be a career best in that way isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'm sure there's some kind of jazz-related extended metaphorical way to phrase that properly, as is also Stew's forte.

 ONE HUGE CALLBACK? A CALLBACK YOU CAN SEE FROM SPACE?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: buzby on July 31, 2018, 03:38:55 PM
Seems to be even more references to Lee's past shows than usual in this one.
Crisps - don't forget the crisps.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: sevendaughters on July 31, 2018, 05:40:35 PM
I'd always considered myself a big Stewart Lee fan (seen him 4 times before: XS Malarkey, Lowry, Leicester Square, and Edinburgh) and I saw Content Provider in Oxford at some point last year. The more I think about the reasonably negative experience (and not the jokes, because I can't remember any) I am increasingly convinced that it wasn't because I was knackered and going through an awkward spat with my girlfriend but because I had moved on, so to speak. I can't say that 'he isn't funny' because I've bought DVDs and been on mailing lists and commented earnestly under youtube videos rebutting tools.

But I was slow to laugh, an audience member going through the motions. He was on form and he had them rolling in the aisles but I felt increasingly detached and it began a process of unpicking what I thought about him and his place in the critical pantheon and in my heart, etc. I didn't want my prejudices played to or confirmed anymore - I wanted to be shocked or surprised, something which is too much to expect from a comic you've been following for 20+ years. I've probably overthought it massively to be honest. Anyway, I saw Josie Long the next night and I laughed more at that and came away feeling much better in myself.

That said I did think the big ending was very clever.

Watched the televised version in two parts, the first a ten minute refresher, and then the rest with a couple of skips over some sections that really dragged for me (particularly the fetish bit). I feel like I've drifted further along the route I indicated above.

A lot of the techniques that Lee has really developed are still new to most. And I think that, to people who like comedy but don't think about comedy on the level that they want to go to a forum and talk about it in microscopic detail, they still have a power. Which is why I'm not going to moan about him deploying tricks that he added years ago, because he was playing to much smaller houses back then and he can't just abandon ship because the early adopters are displeased or bored. Let him make money.

I do worry about the level of actual, rather than performative, contempt that he absolutely must have to persist with some of the more divisive sections of the routine. It feels unhealthy for the soul and for any ultimate reconciliation with events. It's not quite punching down at times - like when he has a go at people who go to see the Proper Comedians at the local Corn Exchange, or when he picks on the repeatedly misinformed Brexit voter that is ultimately misled by a concentrated effort of anti-worker misinformation - but it's kind of mocking people who aren't there and acting as confirmation bias to the cleverclogs who 'get it' (he sort of hates those people too).

That said I did enjoy the Alan Moore as hostile interviewer du jour sections.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on July 31, 2018, 11:39:03 PM
As much as I stick up for SL, I really can't get on board with anyone other than Armando in that interviewer role. All of the cutaway segments with Armando had some sort of setup and punchline, sometimes funnier than the routine itself, and acted as a perfect balance to the onstage self-satisfaction. With anyone else it seems to boil down to 'You don't know what you're doing, do you? No, and I wish I wasn't doing it'.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on July 31, 2018, 11:53:17 PM
Yes please, always interested in the additions and subtractions.
I also would be interested in this.

PMed you both, anyone else interested PM me.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: the science eel on July 31, 2018, 11:53:23 PM
As much as I stick up for SL, I really can't get on board with anyone other than Armando in that interviewer role. All of the cutaway segments with Armando had some sort of setup and punchline, sometimes funnier than the routine itself, and acted as a perfect balance to the onstage self-satisfaction. With anyone else it seems to boil down to 'You don't know what you're doing, do you? No, and I wish I wasn't doing it'.

Exactly.

I don't see the point of it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Dr Rock on July 31, 2018, 11:54:56 PM
Exactly.

I don't see the point of it.

Hides the edits.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on August 01, 2018, 06:53:16 PM
Hides the edits.

Two nuns in a bath have let themselves go
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: RenegadeScrew on August 01, 2018, 07:06:16 PM
I watched this last night and I'd seen it twice in person (although one time was only in some Edinburgh preview that must've been two years ago now).  I thought the first half was wonderful.  The 2nd half had some of the funniest bits of the show, but kinda dragged in parts.  I found the bit about fetish masks/etc from the 40s a bit testing as it went on.

I agree with others about some of the repetitive 'deconstruction' stuff.  The brought a friend stuff seems to be put in near the start of every show. And yet, the utterly pointless charity shop bit deconstructed beyond the point of nonsense was one of my favourite bits.

His audience targeting stuff would be far funnier with his Richard Herring voice noting "no Stew, they've all seen you on already on the four series of your BBC comedy show"

I thought the "mate" bit was slightly better when I seen it live (not the preview show).  The impression of his sycophant fan was great.

The Cameron pig / Gove / Boris Johnson joke was almost exactly as it was in preview show I seen (I think the only difference is he originally said "Theresa May put Boris into the position...").  He'd ruined it in the 2nd show I seen but must've decided to revert back to the much better structure of the original joke. 
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: gout_pony on August 01, 2018, 11:02:17 PM
I mostly enjoyed the bits where he made silly faces and noises if I'm being absolutely honest. Maybe watching all of 'On Cinema' over the last month or two has either deadened or upped my requirements for faux-arrogant meta-comedy.

That said, the silliest parts of TMWRNJ were always my favourite bits like tits like a tit like a bird EGG.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 01, 2018, 11:28:25 PM
I thought the "mate" bit was slightly better when I seen it live (not the preview show). 

Yeah, same. He would start it with "what you having a go at Russell Howard for, mate?" and then keep going until it became unintelligible nonsense. In this show, he started with "mate mate mate" and then mumbled the Russell Howard bit, so I'm not sure everyone picked up on it.

Anyway, this is great. Might be my favourite show he's done, in terms of the pure contempt he has from top to bottom. Usually it builds, but now the character is just a mess, hoarding comedy DVDs, dressing like shit, screaming at the audience. Sad to see him go, if he's gone for good, but perhaps it's the right time and show to end it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: dontrunyoullfall on August 02, 2018, 12:15:43 AM
He was interviewed on 6 Music last week and said he was starting work on a new show later in the year. Unless that’s just a stock answer.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: marquis_de_sad on August 02, 2018, 04:49:49 AM
He was interviewed on 6 Music last week and said he was starting work on a new show later in the year. Unless that’s just a stock answer.

Here (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bbtkfc) from around the 1hr 36 mark, if anyone wants to listen.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on August 02, 2018, 08:00:27 AM
"Between now and the age of 65, I propose five tours, one every three years, with fewer dates but in larger rooms. That’s 10 hours of material, and for me that is only 20 jokes.  The end is in sight and Content Provider represents the beginning of the end"

Hints at non retirement a week back (https://inews.co.uk/culture/stewart-lee-content-provider-bbc-comedy-vehicle/) in the I (er)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Steptoes_Son on August 02, 2018, 08:40:48 AM
I think it's safe to say he's certainly winding down the stand uo side of things.

Whatever happened to that Comic Strip-style film about Brexit he was looking to make?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Artemis on August 03, 2018, 10:04:46 AM
He could be fresher were it not for the commitment (limitation?) he has to Stewart Lee the Character. He’s still funny but it’s been diminishing returns since about SLCV2.

Looking forward to hearing this post quoted in a future performance as the bit in CRW gets another airing.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Goldentony on August 03, 2018, 05:25:31 PM
The delivery of GET IN THE BATH GET IN THE FUCKING BATH might be the funniest thing he's ever done, fucking ruined me.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Tikwid on August 05, 2018, 08:36:47 PM
The delivery of GET IN THE BATH GET IN THE FUCKING BATH might be the funniest thing he's ever done, fucking ruined me.
For me that honor might go towards the entire two minute sequence of his millennial-glued-to-phone impression. Even without the trousers falling down, the combination of his vaguely jesteric hops around the stage and that fucking face sold me.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: BritishHobo on August 05, 2018, 09:38:55 PM
Loved this just as much as when I saw it at Mach Fest last year, but, as then, I gotta echo people on the 'the people up there get it/everyone down here's brought a friend' bits. How is it any different from a broader, more mainstream comedian always doing the same material? It doesn't matter how meta it is, it's still literally repeating a joke in every stand-up show.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: BritishHobo on August 05, 2018, 09:41:02 PM
It's great though because it's the first time I've ever been able to compare Lee shows. I'm sure the Music Magpie used-DVD bit went on much longer when I saw it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 05, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
The delivery of GET IN THE BATH GET IN THE FUCKING BATH might be the funniest thing he's ever done, fucking ruined me.

Yes! I feel the audience didn't give it enough, at least some of the people up there didn't seem to appreciate it etc. etc.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on August 05, 2018, 10:09:24 PM
I wonder if he ditched the Herring gag because Rich just isn't famous enough?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: all male israel on August 06, 2018, 01:41:32 AM
Loved this just as much as when I saw it at Mach Fest last year, but, as then, I gotta echo people on the 'the people up there get it/everyone down here's brought a friend' bits. How is it any different from a broader, more mainstream comedian always doing the same material? It doesn't matter how meta it is, it's still literally repeating a joke in every stand-up show.

i suppose that maybe it seems somewhat necessary for his whole "i'm a weird outsider that you don't get" schtick to work, even if 95% of the audience are in on it. with the pretense of the crowd not knowing or understanding him comes the ability to deconstruct jokes for their sake, which is also nothing new for him but at least the jokes he deconstructs are. he could still do that anyway, but it probably does work better if it's established (however falsely) beforehand that there are people in the room who don't understand what he's doing

or maybe he's just a fat old past it useless cunt

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 06, 2018, 02:15:58 AM
I don't think that's how the relationship between bitrate and frames-per-second works for video encoding. They picked a bitrate based on targeting 5 Mbps broadband.

(Repeating the previous frame in H264 is something like 15 bytes?)

Yes, virtually any normal video codec will only describe the changes between key frames and frame doubling will result in no changes.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Satchmo Distel on August 06, 2018, 01:39:42 PM
It would be more radical for him to just do jokes for an hour, to show he can do it whilst also subverting it in some way.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on August 06, 2018, 02:35:18 PM
I liked the crowd dividing stuff just because it led to him insulting not only the friends of his audience but the kind of people who like him. That was great.

Think that's surely the apex of the joke now though, and doesn't need done again. Although, it does seem to work on the audience; us at home don't get the same effect.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: chrispmartha on August 06, 2018, 02:42:15 PM
I liked the crowd dividing stuff just because it led to him insulting not only the friends of his audience but the kind of people who like him. That was great.

Think that's surely the apex of the joke now though, and doesn't need done again. Although, it does seem to work on the audience; us at home don't get the same effect.

When I saw this (live) he didn't bother even dividing the room, he must have sense something different in the audience that night and basically just had a go en masse that we were shit and not worthy of being there, I thought it worked really well as everyone was expecting the divide thing.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on August 06, 2018, 05:44:41 PM
There was a great additional bit at the one I saw after he did the empty seats/ticket touts bit involving an exchange with an audience member:

(inaudible)
'stop gesturing at them [empty seats] madam, I've done a bit about them'
(inaudible)
'don't keep gesturing at them, I've dealt with that. I'm not going to go back over old ground. If there's one thing I hate in comedy it's repeating ideas...'
(laughter)
'yeah that's an in-joke for all the fans isn't it, that's exactly what he does do ahaha'

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: ASFTSN on August 10, 2018, 08:38:30 AM
Finally paid my TV license like a good boy and watched this. I hope the next "serious interviewer" interview questions him extensively on his descent into prop comedy, what with the DVDs, the trousers falling down, and the selfie-stick Friedrich mic stand bit.

In all serious though, I absolutely loved it. Only bit that dragged for me was possibly the rural gimp mask antics of his grandparents, I felt like it lacked much of a pulse for some reason. Absolutely creased up at his Russell Howard bit about using a sock instead of toilet roll.

We've all done it, we've all done it. You run out of toilet paper and use a sock instead.

*pause*

His own clothing...

Plus the Game of Throne speech part (I assume - never seen GoT) about copying it down off of a mug in HMV. Fantastic. He really hates fantasy culture of all stripes doesn't he! Proud to assume the invective of "warhammer twat" after watching this.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Hobo With A Shit Pun on August 10, 2018, 09:11:16 AM
He actually loves fantasy culture; He's a member of the Arthur Machen society, which exists to fund republishing  the Welsh fantasist, and he's done documentaries on his passion for that [https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0542jwq] and Children of The Stones. And of course being mates with Alan Moore presumably feels like you hang with wizards.

He just hates Warhammer Twats.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 10, 2018, 11:15:18 AM
He makes reference to a Warhammer piece that his son has in Carpet Remnant World I think, so there must be Warhammer twats in his own home. Poor old Stew, can’t catch a break.

(I got the impression that he is very fond of high fantasy, but the character of Stewart Lee considers GoT to be low brow consumerist shit for the masses, and therefore to be scorned with any and all similar cultural entities without consideration of their cultural value.)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: the science eel on August 10, 2018, 11:29:47 AM
...but the character of Stewart Lee...

oh honestly
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mrpupkin on August 10, 2018, 11:37:39 AM
The joke’s on him presumably, the fact that he won't even watch this thing he rails against so intensely, so as to find out whether his view of it holds any weight. Doubling down on his contempt in a kind of pathetic defensive teenage way rather than allowing for the possibility of having to change his mind. Such disdain for something he knows literally nothing about. I laughed.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: ASFTSN on August 10, 2018, 11:42:38 AM
He's probably just like me, and disdains the mass Tolkien-isation of popular culture over recent years, knowing all along that The Worm Ouroborous by ER Edidson contains fair more wonder and power than anything Tolkien ever wrote. I'm still a warhammer twat though.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: ASFTSN on August 10, 2018, 11:43:35 AM
The joke’s on him presumably, the fact that he won't even watch this thing he rails against so intensely, so as to find out whether his view of it holds any weight. Doubling down on his contempt in a kind of pathetic defensive teenage way rather than allowing for the possibility of having to change his mind. Such disdain for something he knows literally nothing about. I laughed.

I loved the line about how he got everything he needed to know about GoT "off of a cup".
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 10, 2018, 12:03:39 PM
oh honestly

I know, I know. I’ve bought in to the whole shtick.

That said, I’m sure in real life Stew doesn’t give a shit about Game of Thrones so I thought it was apposite to say “the character of” to make that distinction.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: the science eel on August 10, 2018, 01:01:32 PM
oh fair enough
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Satchmo Distel on August 12, 2018, 01:12:08 AM
Is it Lee who (in character) describes GoT as tits and dragons?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 12, 2018, 01:27:29 AM
Is it Lee who (in character) describes GoT as tits and dragons?

Dobby on peep show calls it “dragon-tits”
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Default to the negative on August 12, 2018, 01:38:55 AM
Well he called Tyrion Lannister by name, so he obviously knows more about the show than what he read off that imaginary cup.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Phil_A on August 12, 2018, 01:50:39 AM
Is it Lee who (in character) describes GoT as tits and dragons?

It was in fact the great Ian McShane that coined the term "It's only tits and dragons!", which suggest an obvious spoof I'm amazed no-one's made yet.

JOFFREY, YOU PLONKER
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: mojo filters on August 12, 2018, 08:06:59 AM
I liked the GoT bits, and come from a similarly ignorant position as the character Stewart Lee - except I've not even seen a cup in HMV. I don't know if I'd even heard Tyrian Lannister's name before, or if my brain just easily made the connection?

I felt old and out of touch not really relating to the Young Comics / "Mate" material however. Admittedly I've not travelled down south much in recent years, though not for the same reasons as Gary Lineker.

I was hoping for more foodstuffs to be placed on Rod Liddle by Stew, as I grew up listening to Today then reading his Sunday Times column. I guess I'm not as big of a demographic as I expected, though at least I got some relevant content in S4 of Comedy Vehicle!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: New Jack on August 12, 2018, 10:33:14 AM
The friend I went to see this with (she's seen him a few times with me so not quite the confused tagalong he was aiming at) spent our pre-show drinks hectoring me about watching Game of Thrones, so it was nice of Stew to develop a piece of comedy directly for my life

Ditto the trousers falling down in front of everyone, really personal for me, that, nice one Stew!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: bgmnts on August 12, 2018, 03:45:39 PM
(I got the impression that he is very fond of high fantasy, but the character of Stewart Lee considers GoT to be low brow consumerist shit for the masses, and therefore to be scorned with any and all similar cultural entities without consideration of their cultural value.)

Which, to be fair, is probably correct.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: NoSleep on August 12, 2018, 04:04:49 PM
Well, of course it's correct that he doesn't actually despise GoT as he portrays.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 12, 2018, 04:31:52 PM
Well, of course it's correct that he doesn't actually despise GoT as he portrays.

...which is why my use of the phrase “the character of Stewart Lee” was absolutely valid.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: bgmnts on August 14, 2018, 05:43:28 PM
Finally going to get stuck into this, the iffy feedback (I view Stewart Lee at being at the highest peak of the comedy Mount Olympus do any negative feedback makes me nervous).

Alan Moore though so can't go wrong. Although 5 mins in and already a gag from Comedy Vehicle, yet a good chuckle just before. I hope its as great as I hope.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: RedRevolver on August 22, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
Finally going to get stuck into this, the iffy feedback (I view Stewart Lee at being at the highest peak of the comedy Mount Olympus do any negative feedback makes me nervous).

Alan Moore though so can't go wrong. Although 5 mins in and already a gag from Comedy Vehicle, yet a good chuckle just before. I hope its as great as I hope.

My opinion? Either come to a conclusion (i.e. punchline) in a future show, do something actually new with it without it being almost a carbon copy of previous tour or wrap up the audience hostility. It often takes away from the performance. Unless this is my Shilbottle, and it will get hilariously funny again lon his 2022 tour or summat.

This has the best closer to any Stewart Lee set that I've seen, however.

Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DeGrise on August 22, 2018, 05:26:45 PM
My opinion? Either come to a conclusion (i.e. punchline) in a future show, do something actually new with it without it being almost a carbon copy of previous tour or wrap up the audience hostility. It often takes away from the performance. Unless this is my Shilbottle, and it will get hilariously funny again lon his 2022 tour or summat.

This has the best closer to any Stewart Lee set that I've seen, however.



I think those two things are precisely linked.

It starts with familiar tropes, and indeed lines that have been used before. The fans are all onboard, and have seen it before.

But throughout the show the antagonism builds and builds, until the end when he has dismissed the lives of the entire audience as worthless.

And then the glorious conclusion.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on August 25, 2018, 01:03:05 AM
Only just got round to watching this tonight, and wrote the following before reading the thread so apologies for any repetition.

By far the weakest thing he's done. Not to say that there weren't some very funny moments which made me laugh out loud but I'm sick to death of him playing around with his perceived status and criticising parts of the audience for not getting the joke. It was funny ten years ago, but he's done it too often and I'm just painfully bored of it. I said this after Comedy Vehicle ended but he really needs to mix things up and explore new ideas as I'm tired of this shtick and he just hasn't done so at all. And it pains me to say such a thing as I used to love the man enormously, but Content Provider is the first time I haven't seen one of his shows live since 2005 and I'm actually glad I waited for the tv broadcast as I found this a struggle at times. Still, on the plus side I loved Alan Moore's appearances, Lee's capable of a great turn of phrase and there's some strong ideas he plays around with, but yeah, overall it was a bit of a disappointment.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 25, 2018, 01:52:37 PM
I enjoyed it a lot more on the 2nd watch.

“Urrr nurrr, I don’t have a future now. Still, I’ve got this new phone.”

...followed by prolonged mugging to camera. Very funny.

He does a lot more physical comedy and impressions/accents etc in this somhe is trying new stuff, but yeah the “audience criticism” stuff was a Stewart Lee trope. I think he was doing the “who brought friends” material on the 41st Best Comedian tour and that was bloody ages ago.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: BlodwynPig on August 25, 2018, 02:47:03 PM
Loving this so far...just got to the second Alan Moore segment. "This will be in front of your audience" had me howling - the delivery by Moore made that.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 25, 2018, 03:40:55 PM
The audience dividing is one of his signatures though. It's like saying Frankie Howard should move on from all that meandering and showing distaste for his audience.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on August 25, 2018, 05:37:05 PM
The audience dividing is one of his signatures though.

There's also some truth to it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: NoSleep on August 25, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
There's some possibility of a little truth in it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Satchmo Distel on August 25, 2018, 09:41:29 PM
The audience dividing is one of his signatures though. It's like saying Frankie Howard should move on from all that meandering and showing distaste for his audience.

Howerd
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twed on August 25, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
Howerd
Russell
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on August 25, 2018, 09:52:31 PM
Russell

Ken
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twed on August 25, 2018, 09:55:36 PM
Ken
wood
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Hecate on August 25, 2018, 09:58:04 PM
wood

Victoria
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on August 25, 2018, 10:14:26 PM
Victoria

Northwich
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sony Walkman Prophecies on August 25, 2018, 11:43:25 PM
I can no longer differentiate between any of his output. It's the same stand up routine over and over. Something about Ukip/Brexit. Divide the room. Something about gammon/David Cameron. Call a mid-level comedian a cunt. Superficially insult the audience/actually tell them all the things they want to hear. Hang off the mic stand and cast a shadow of a toad with non-treatable gastroenteritis.

I think he reached his peaked at Pea Green Boat.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: gib on August 25, 2018, 11:53:22 PM
The funniest SL things were when he did the william wallace routine in scotland, the one with the scotch bloke sat the front of the audience who looked a bit like frankie boyle, and 'gentleman bombers'

i'm up for another hour so please stand by in case i have any more insights
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on August 26, 2018, 01:15:07 AM
The audience dividing is one of his signatures though. It's like saying Frankie Howard should move on from all that meandering and showing distaste for his audience.

Nah, it's a shit and tired device which he needs to retire and find something new, at least if he wants my money. And he does, he keeps on begging for it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sony Walkman Prophecies on August 26, 2018, 04:46:25 AM
If he doesn't sort out some new material, he's in significant danger of becoming a sort of non-ironical hard left Bernard Manning "Those fookin' Brexiters. What a load of a shithouses. You see them don't you, with their gammon faces." As with the late Manning, and the relatively extant Sadowitz however, enough people will pay to hear the same material over and over. He'll just fall off the radar for whatever's left of the mainstream press by then.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Steptoes_Son on August 26, 2018, 08:12:57 AM
Only just got round to watching this tonight, and wrote the following before reading the thread so apologies for any repetition.

By far the weakest thing he's done. Not to say that there weren't some very funny moments which made me laugh out loud but I'm sick to death of him playing around with his perceived status and criticising parts of the audience for not getting the joke. It was funny ten years ago, but he's done it too often and I'm just painfully bored of it. I said this after Comedy Vehicle ended but he really needs to mix things up and explore new ideas as I'm tired of this shtick and he just hasn't done so at all. And it pains me to say such a thing as I used to love the man enormously, but Content Provider is the first time I haven't seen one of his shows live since 2005 and I'm actually glad I waited for the tv broadcast as I found this a struggle at times. Still, on the plus side I loved Alan Moore's appearances, Lee's capable of a great turn of phrase and there's some strong ideas he plays around with, but yeah, overall it was a bit of a disappointment.

I get that the dividing the audience aspect is a part of his technique/style/persona, but the problem for me is the extent to which it can now dominate the material. Look back at Stand Up Comedian, 90's Comedian and 41st Best Stand Up and its there but nowhere near the extent that it is now and I would argue those 3 shows are richer in terms of material than Content Provider and even CRW because there's more time and room given to other ideas/development of the through line.

My problem with Content Provider, which I did enjoy both live and on TV, is that the first act, although it does feature some great lines and moments, feels like a slog due to way the "you've brought friends/mixed ability room" seems to dominate. The second act has less of this and explores more ideas, features more material and is a lot stronger and funnier for it. If the second act was just a repeat of the first, I think the show would overall have been much poorer. I don't want to be an arse and say the second act saves the show, because the first act does have its moments but it makes for a lopsided show as it stands.

Considering Lee is very much for experimenting with the form of stand up, and that the 4th series of CV featured him experimenting more, more often than not successfully for me (I like the Liddle routine, none of us are perfect!), I'm surprised he hasn't tried to experiment more with ways to divide the room. He tends to fall back in the 'should have been more for that joke/mixed ability' thing, but surely there are plenty more ways he could divide the room and keep things fresh, for him and his audience?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 26, 2018, 01:58:48 PM
Howerd

He was actually born Francis Howard, so shut your faces.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on August 26, 2018, 02:45:40 PM
He was actually born Francis Howard, so shut your faces.

Trevor
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 26, 2018, 04:04:48 PM
Trevor

Nelson
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Hecate on August 26, 2018, 04:23:49 PM
Nelson

Muntz

Aha! Get out of that one!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Kelvin on August 26, 2018, 05:23:12 PM
I gave at the one hour mark precisely for the reasons discussed on this page. Too formulaic and repetitive, and far too much tedium without a good enough payoff. The intentionally annoying stuff is a bit like shock humour, really, in that it's only really effective and impactful if you don't rely on it throughout the entire show.

As it was, the entire thing felt like a compilation of techniques and cliches you associate with Stewart Lee. Perhaps the last hour subverts that, or moves into new territory, and no doubt I'll watch it eventually, but based on what I saw, I hope this show acts as a full stop to this particular phase in his career, and pushes him to explore something new and unexpected with his future shows.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twed on August 26, 2018, 05:34:47 PM
I think what Stewart Lee is lauded for isn't what he's best at. "Deconstructing" comedy, eh, not really. He does it the same way every set. At this point it's just him being meta about the same things in a particular tone of voice.

I thought the splitting the audience was beyond tired by Milder Comedian, eight years ago.

The first half of this had at least three re-used bits from major releases. Gah.

But then the second half was great, because of the pitch perfect, pathetic on-stage breakdown bit. Yeah, he does that a lot, but it's the only part of his act that rings true to his 'jazz' leanings. He senses the audience, tweaks things on the fly, and gives a very funny breakdown performance that feels like it's including the viewer. You are part of this shambles. That's what I love about Stew.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: NoSleep on August 26, 2018, 06:33:45 PM
I thought that him grinding on with the stuff that some people here are saying he's been doing for too long was part of the comedy of this particular set. There was some of that going on in the last season of Comedy Vehicle, too.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Steptoes_Son on August 26, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
I thought that him grinding on with the stuff that some people here are saying he's been doing for too long was part of the comedy of this particular set. There was some of that going on in the last season of Comedy Vehicle, too.

Series 4 of CV I'd agree with you on, but the first act of this seemed business as usual. Althought it did set up some call backs in the second half (it wasn't just ... who voted for ..., it was cunts too). Other than that, it just seemed to be an exercise in establishing character status again - lowering his own status through self grandeur and pomposity (I'd rather seem him exploring the character of Stewart Lee, like in the last episodes of CV 3 and 4, which were excellent, the end of series in particular was rich in character detail).

I still think the mixed ability audience schtick has reached the end of its effectiveness. Surely it would be better to find new ways of dividing the audience, keep it fresh for us and him?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: BlodwynPig on August 26, 2018, 07:14:02 PM

The first half of this had at least three re-used bits from major releases. Gah.



BP review: "5 stars, a performance to rival that other top entertainer, Peter Kay"
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: olliebean on August 26, 2018, 07:42:51 PM
Muntz

Aha! Get out of that one!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_k3qghCEWHIk/TGoOo7IEzyI/AAAAAAAABF0/jKZUriI3Dbg/s1600/Earlmuntz.jpg)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Kelvin on August 26, 2018, 08:32:10 PM
I thought that him grinding on with the stuff that some people here are saying he's been doing for too long was part of the comedy of this particular set. There was some of that going on in the last season of Comedy Vehicle, too.

Yeah, I agree. That's why I think it kind of works as a culmination or send off to that kind of material and a stepping stone to something new.

I still think he's abused the stuff where he's intentionally frustrating or tedious to the point that it feels incredibly predictable, and dampens the payoff, though. It was the overuse of that in the first hour that made me give up. I just wasn't laughing often or enough to justify how long I was sat there thinking, 'all right, we get the point, get on with it.'
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: a duncandisorderly on August 30, 2018, 09:05:20 PM
we're into the 14th/15th page of posts about this now, & I've been away for a couple of weeks so I haven't been keeping up.... has there been any discussion of his facial tics & small vocal noises, & whether the comedic value of these is evident to the room as distinct from the tv viewers?

for me, these nuances make his repetition of aspects of his shows much more palatable; he knows he's done nowt new for about a decade, & the knowing of this as he goes through the schtick is indicated by the expressions that surely must be too small to reach the back of the room.

none of the repetition bothers me- the content itself or the delivery. for me, he's so far ahead of (say) the MTW crowd, it's like miles davis vs kenny g.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: magval on August 31, 2018, 08:10:04 AM
Agreed. When I saw this live, I was at the very top and very back of the Waterfront in Belfast, which is simply too far away for comedy (imagine being in an arena, like), and I didn't catch any of those delicious wee details you mention.

Works far better when seen up close or, in this case, as recorded. Brilliant show.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: rasta-spouse on August 31, 2018, 03:59:45 PM

I still think he's abused the stuff where he's intentionally frustrating or tedious to the point that it feels incredibly predictable, and dampens the payoff, though.

This is it, the predictability of it kills the comedy. But, it is the longest he's ever done that trope on stage (30mins like). So I think his equation is that doing it for that long makes it something new in itself and it doesn't need any frills. But it soured the whole thing for me. Those 45 minutes of Content Provider are easily the laziest material he's ever produced.

I did think I may have gone off the guy, so re-listened to Carpet Remnant World - nope, that's a damn fine show, so rich in ideas, not a dead spot in it.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: a duncandisorderly on August 31, 2018, 08:43:19 PM
I think his equation is that doing it for that long makes it something new in itself and it doesn't need any frills. But it soured the whole thing for me. Those 45 minutes of Content Provider are easily the laziest material he's ever produced.

do you think he's taking this "I'm jazz, I am" thing too far in the sense of pissing about with the things that everyone knows he's going to do? like derek bailey going off on a half hour extemporisation where there used to be a sort of middle eight?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on November 10, 2018, 09:07:26 PM
This is now in full on YouTube, where I've literally just now finished watching it.  After a protracted Lee-hiatus, it's renewed and reminded me of my reasons for my total love of his stuff.  Brilliant!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Satchmo Distel on November 11, 2018, 02:49:50 PM
Slow pacing is less of a problem when you know you are there for a two hour stretch rather than a 30 minute TV burst.

He also does conventional jokes - the Brexit cunts punchline.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Glebe on December 31, 2018, 01:54:09 AM
Anyone see this on BBC2 the other night? I missed some of the start, but it was very funny. Also nice to have Alan Moore doing the little interview snippets.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Glebe on December 31, 2018, 06:14:32 PM
This is now in full on YouTube, where I've literally just now finished watching it.  After a protracted Lee-hiatus, it's renewed and reminded me of my reasons for my total love of his stuff.  Brilliant!

Oh right, duh. Late to the party as usual.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on December 31, 2018, 06:22:33 PM
Oh right, duh. Late to the party as usual.

Right, I'll show you!  I'm celebrating New Year 2020 tonight, just for that!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Glebe on December 31, 2018, 08:44:12 PM
Right, I'll show you!  I'm celebrating New Year 2020 tonight, just for that!

*sob!*
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: poodlefaker on January 02, 2019, 02:44:07 PM
Alan Bennett (https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n01/alan-bennett/diary-for-2018):

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28 July. In the evening we watch Stewart Lee doing his stand-up in Southend. He makes stand-up almost a moral pursuit, predicting an audience’s reaction (or lack of reaction) to his material in a way that makes the usual (and more popular) stand-ups seem crude and obvious. He’s fearless, undeterred by an audience’s failure to respond, even welcoming it so that he can analyse it, tracking down the missing laugh until the audience laughs at itself. Erving Goffman would have liked Stewart Lee, though the more accessible material put out by other (and more vapid) stand-ups derives in part from Goffman’s observation of small behaviour. It’s austere stuff, Stewart Lee. He’s the J.L. Austin of what is now rather a sloppy profession.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Replies From View on January 02, 2019, 06:50:08 PM
Muntz

Aha  Ha ha! Get out of that one!
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Replies From View on January 02, 2019, 06:54:27 PM
My favourite bit is the ridiculous characterisation of the Russell Howard fans.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Glebe on January 03, 2019, 03:02:27 PM
Alan Bennett (https://www.lrb.co.uk/v41/n01/alan-bennett/diary-for-2018):

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29 July. There's a tempting packet of custard creams in the pantry, but I mustn't rush things! Will pop the kettle on and bide my time.

Seriously though, delightful to hear he enjoys Lee.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: poodlefaker on January 03, 2019, 04:28:03 PM
Intit. He should use "The J.L. Austin of what is now rather a sloppy profession" on his tour posters.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: kitsofan34 on January 25, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
Big, big news, worthy of bumping this dormant thread.

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he's grown a beard!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=AHfnCpH4-Oo
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Mango Chimes on January 25, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
David Bellamy's let himself go.

Kenny Rogers has let himself go.

Robert Wyatt's let himself go.

Jeff Bridges has let himself go.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 25, 2019, 01:10:37 PM
Looks a bit like Orson Welles when he let himself go.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Captain Z on January 25, 2019, 02:51:56 PM
Father Christmas has let himself go.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Enzo on January 25, 2019, 04:16:30 PM
Saw Captain Birdseye on the bus. He looked fat and depressed.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Twed on January 25, 2019, 04:23:07 PM
Do people have that kind of beard because it doesn't grow on their cheeks, or do they specifically shave it that way?
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Glebe on January 25, 2019, 04:28:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6N9I1gU.jpg)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 25, 2019, 04:33:46 PM
Do people have that kind of beard because it doesn't grow on their cheeks, or do they specifically shave it that way?

Probably a bit of both. Whispy pubey bits on cheeks that need to be shaved off.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: hamfist on January 25, 2019, 04:57:08 PM
David Bellamy's let himself go.

Kenny Rogers has let himself go.

Robert Wyatt's let himself go.

Jeff Bridges has let himself go.

Ernest Hemingway has let himself go.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: marquis_de_sad on January 26, 2019, 05:47:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/PkEl9jw.jpg)
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Fried Egg Sandwich on January 27, 2019, 02:31:35 PM
He's at that stage where you wear clothes just because they're big enough to fit you.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: DrGreggles on January 27, 2019, 02:35:53 PM
Colonel Sanders etc...
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Glebe on February 20, 2019, 01:42:24 PM
Belated thanks for posting that interview btw Kits, 'tis a good watch/listen. Interesting about Bill Oddie being edited on Buzzcocks...
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on February 20, 2019, 01:57:10 PM
Belated thanks for posting that interview btw Kits, 'tis a good watch/listen. Interesting about Bill Oddie being edited on Buzzcocks...

I'm not sure he's remembering that correctly.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: rasta-spouse on February 20, 2019, 04:14:08 PM
Is there any progress on Stew's Comic Strip type movie that he was talking about making?






Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: clarkgwent on February 20, 2019, 06:14:37 PM
I'm not sure he's remembering that correctly.

In "Memoirs of a Geezer" Jah Wobble said  they did a similar thing to him so smoke/fire ect
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: thenoise on February 21, 2019, 10:53:32 AM
Do people have that kind of beard because it doesn't grow on their cheeks, or do they specifically shave it that way?


Shaving and growing a beard is a sign of too much time on your hands. Grow it out proper, Stew, then maybe you wouldn't have to repeat your material so much.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: up_the_hampipe on February 21, 2019, 12:13:10 PM
In "Memoirs of a Geezer" Jah Wobble said  they did a similar thing to him so smoke/fire ect

Can we trust the word of Jah Wobble? I believe Sean Hughes told his side of that on Herring’s podcast.
Title: Re: Stewart Lee - Content Provider
Post by: Hey, Punk! on March 26, 2019, 03:30:39 AM
Do people have that kind of beard because it doesn't grow on their cheeks, or do they specifically shave it that way?

I think it is likely that our Stew has a very thick and full beard. I think this is him finding something to occupy a few minutes of his life as thenoise said.
Or maybe he thinks the jawline hair is slimming? (He is quite overweight now)