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Title: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 07, 2018, 12:20:15 PM
Alrighty, folks. New year, new thread.

I've started my film year by filling a pretty major gap: Howard Hawks' Ball of Fire. Despite a somewhat leisurely pace and scattered narrative, it still serves up a nice amount of laughs, thrills and heart. Plus bonus Gene Krupa. A very fun and enjoyable film.

P.S. Neil if you read this could you please transfer some of the 2018 posts from the 2017 thread into this one?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dex Sawash on January 07, 2018, 12:24:02 PM
Would guess Barry doesnt read here as the 2016 one is still pinned.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 08, 2018, 12:18:40 PM
Friedkin's Bug, a hole of madness and blood. Michael Shannon pulling his teeth out cause he thinks there's an egg sac in them is the horrifying chaos you never knew you needed. Top notch paranoia... OR IS IT. Based on a really good play and the claustrophobia of the single-room setting is transferred to the screen quite well.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 09, 2018, 07:52:37 PM
exhumed old laptop that I haven't touched for about 5 years and found the first res evil in the tray (dont remember putting it in there)

honestly loved it. can definitely see the appeal of paul w. s. anderson 

 
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 09, 2018, 11:40:26 PM
exhumed old laptop that I haven't touched for about 5 years and found the first res evil in the tray (dont remember putting it in there)

honestly loved it. can definitely see the appeal of paul w. s. anderson 

 
It's great, innit?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 10, 2018, 08:20:03 AM
It's great, innit?
considering watching the rest, if i can be arsed
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 10, 2018, 12:41:35 PM
Dracula: Dead and Loving It. There's really not enough jokes to sustain it and as such it ends up faltering halfway between serious adaptation (especially with all the effort put into the art direction) and straight parody.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 10, 2018, 09:32:56 PM
king of new york

ferrara's new jack city

some bonkers scenes with Fishburne
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: SpiderChrist on January 10, 2018, 09:57:15 PM
Whatever Happened To Baby Jane?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Billy on January 10, 2018, 10:15:15 PM
Lost in Translation

It was ok. Nice to finally see it fourteen years after all the hype around it peaked, although the 15 year old me of 2004 (who instead saw Return of the King that month) would have probably been fairly bored by it. Like most Oscar-friendly films, it worked well without being the groundbreaking vision of genius it was hailed as at the time.

Nice look at that unique/slightly nostalgic early-2000s mix of 90s and modern tech too, mobiles and LEDs co-existing with fax machines and Polaroids.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 10, 2018, 10:15:25 PM
looks like a question, spider
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 10, 2018, 10:57:08 PM
king of new york

ferrara's new jack city

some bonkers scenes with Fishburne

Come ooooonnnnn - it's INFINITELY better than New Jack City.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Gregory Torso on January 11, 2018, 01:19:31 AM
King of New York is great. Larry Fishburne is mental.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 11, 2018, 05:29:52 AM
Whatever Happened To Baby Jane?

looks like a question, spider

It is, and the answer is SHE WENT FUCKING MENTAL.

Great film.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: phantom_power on January 11, 2018, 08:34:33 AM
King of New York is great. Larry Fishburne is mental.

Fantastically grubby and immoral film. Great soundtrack too
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on January 11, 2018, 08:47:59 AM
I think it's on the commentary to that where Ferrara gets slozzered and calls out all the female cast members for their slatternly ways.  Worth a listen.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 11, 2018, 09:33:51 AM
Slozzereddrugs
To become drunk or intoxicated with alcohol.

(of a woman or her appearance) dirty and untidy.
"a slatternly housekeeper"

Come ooooonnnnn - it's INFINITELY better than New Jack City.
oh ae definitely
subway scene alone trumps it
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 11, 2018, 11:14:00 AM
Mind Game (2004) - Essential piece of anime that I loved to pieces. Mixes several different styles of art to create something really quite unique, this is a rare film that I'd say is a must see, and I shall shoot you in the face if you don't.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 11, 2018, 01:09:10 PM
Coppola's Dracula.  Still don't see what most others do.  Abysmal film.  Comes to something when hair boobs are the best things in it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on January 11, 2018, 01:19:15 PM
Mind Game (2004) - Essential piece of anime that I loved to pieces. Mixes several different styles of art to create something really quite unique, this is a rare film that I'd say is a must see, and I shall shoot you in the face if you don't.

Don't you mean shoot me in the arse?

I think I recommended that to you!  Be sure to Czech out Yuasa's series 'n' all while you're at it.  He even managed to make a show about ping-pong strangely transcendental.  He never made anything quite like Mind Game again, though.  The closest I've been able to find is this weird ear-obsessed Korean animation called The Story of Mr Sorry.  I uploaded it here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl65Q35fks
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Noodle Lizard on January 11, 2018, 01:21:38 PM
Michael Shannon pulling his teeth out cause he thinks there's an egg sac in them is the horrifying chaos you never knew you needed.

Mate
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 11, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
he didn't know he needed it but now he does
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 11, 2018, 02:06:15 PM
I think it's on the commentary to that where Ferrara gets slozzered and calls out all the female cast members for their slatternly ways.  Worth a listen.
Love it!

http://www.chud.com/community/t/65845/abel-ferrara-dvd-commentaries

confirms what you wrote, with this excellent comment:

Quote
The track starts off with Abel cracking open a can of beer (a sound that is repeated quite a few times throughout) and that pretty much sets the tone as the guy cusses and yells at every other scene, drools and talks dirty whenever a blonde woman is on screen. I also loved how he started things off by saying he's only doing this commentary because they paid him 5000 bucks cash. I always wondered how much these guys were paid for doing commentaries. Thanks, Abel. The track ends on another surreal note as Abel whips out a guitar and starts singing Schooly D's KING OF NEW YORK song. The whole thing was fucking awesome to listen to, kind of like being in the company of a dead drunk bum who also just so happens to have directed this great movie. This is now one of my favourite commentaries ever

Rather sadly, it seems the Arrow version of Driller Killer has an ordinary-sounding moderated commentary on it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 11, 2018, 02:16:45 PM
I watched a double bill of wilderness years Mark Hamill movies last night - Time Runner (1993) and Black Magic Woman (1991).

Time Runner was fun, a bit like Terminator crossed with Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but not as good. Hamill was fine, Rae Dawn Chong was fine, Brion James was fine.

Black Magic Woman is an even-more-sexist take on "Fatal Attraction". Hamill bones down with Apollonia, and they seem to get on well, but she sees him with his sort of girlfriend / business partner Amanda Wyss and gets upset. You're supposed to think she's done a curse on him, because the opening scene has some other witches in it, but...nah, I won't spoil it. It's on Youtube with Dutch subtitles, should you fancy it. Hamill's desire to not be tied down and to slip a length to whoever he likes is seen as fine, and the two women are seen as shrieking monsters.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 11, 2018, 02:43:16 PM
Don't you mean shoot me in the arse?

Heh, indeed I should have gone with that.

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I think I recommended that to you!  Be sure to Czech out Yuasa's series 'n' all while you're at it.  He even managed to make a show about ping-pong strangely transcendental.  He never made anything quite like Mind Game again, though.  The closest I've been able to find is this weird ear-obsessed Korean animation called The Story of Mr Sorry.  I uploaded it here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl65Q35fks

I imagine it was, about 95% of my film viewing comes from CaB recommendations these days, that or http://366weirdmovies.com/. And thanks for the other recommendations, I'm downloading that youtube video as we speak and will seek out his other work too.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 11, 2018, 02:52:26 PM
this is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tv7WwwTcDc

i feel like getting every abel ferrara film on dvd just to get the audio commentary now
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Twit 2 on January 11, 2018, 07:00:14 PM
Coppola's Dracula.  Still don't see what most others do.  Abysmal film.  Comes to something when hair boobs are the best things in it.

I love that film. Kitsch naffness and tasteful class going hand in hand. Atrocious accents, incredible score; hammy performances, beautiful art direction and cinemtaography.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 12, 2018, 06:09:36 AM
Mate

Mate what mate

This mate could be one of many different types of mate
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 12, 2018, 08:50:50 AM
I love that film. Kitsch naffness and tasteful class going hand in hand. Atrocious accents, incredible score; hammy performances, beautiful art direction and cinemtaography.

I'll give it for the practical effects.  The rest can get to fuck.  RIGHT to fuck.


Mate what mate

This mate could be one of many different types of mate

Think he's referring to that drink they all have in South America.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on January 12, 2018, 12:31:29 PM
Last night I watched This is Your Death. (Also called The Show) On Sky.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2088950/

Not half as clever as it wants to be and a kind of, almost Network wannabe. It was ok actually, entertaining enough and didn't take the piss out of your intelligence too much. It was made by Gus from Breaking Bad.
But then let's put it in context. I love Network and anything satirical about TV so it's in my world already but also I was just bored and putting anything on to avoid getting anywhere near another godawful waste of time marvel superhero film (FUUUUUUUUUUUCK OOOOOFFFFFFFFFF!).

It had the guy from Lost in the Sun which I saw last year and highly recommend. A surprisingly affecting little indie road movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3593046/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_12

Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 12, 2018, 04:02:43 PM
Nine years ago Glebe posted this:

Watched Tekkonkinkreet the other night-and blimey, I was fairly impressed. Not only is it visually astonishing, it also gradually gains real depth and substance as it goes along. Very good indeed.

And I can finally confirm that his review is absolutely spot on (as I know many wondered if he might be lying again for no doubt evil reasons). Whilst extremely engaging it did feel a bit flimsy in the first half but it develops in to something really special in the second half, and it's packed with stunning imagery throughout, if I ever get the chance to see it at the cinema I'll definitely do so.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 12, 2018, 10:24:29 PM
Shattered Image, Ruiz

oh mate what the fuck was this
something that would be on at 4 in morning on a channel that nobody watches x hal hartley x lynch
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 13, 2018, 12:17:46 AM
Cast A Deadly Spell

Mentioned in another thread on here, cos it has the Gremlins popping up for a guest appearance. It's not bad! Directed by the same bloke who made "Edge of Darkness" and a couple of Bond films, with a very young Julianne Moore as a bit of a femme fatale. Don't take my word for it, watch it on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NsYt8gpD7s&t=3282s

I'd never heard of it before (although my friends had); but even some of them weren't aware they did a sequel, "Witch Hunt", directed by Paul Schrader and starring Dennis Hopper as HP Lovecraft (with Penelope Ann Miller, Eric Bogosian and Julian Sands in it too). Blimey!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on January 13, 2018, 12:58:01 AM
United 93. Far better than I thought it was going to be, more emotional than I expected.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 13, 2018, 09:39:43 PM
The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes. Not the greatest Billy Wilder film but a nice light mystery. I was impressed that they created an entirely new plot rather than adapting an existing one, though I think that first vignette was extraneous. Solid cast overall including Christopher Lee as Mycroft who was quite good.

Repo Man. Another one off the gap list. How had it taken me so long to see this? This was amazing. Such attitude and also really funny and really weird. I have a feeling this will become a five-star film for me over the years.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on January 13, 2018, 09:47:46 PM

Repo Man. Another one off the gap list. How had it taken me so long to see this? This was amazing. Such attitude and also really funny and really weird. I have a feeling this will become a five-star film for me over the years.

That is one very special film. I've lost count of how many times I've seen it and it's always brilliant
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 13, 2018, 11:00:26 PM
Rock and Rule (1983) - Futuristic furry fantasy featuring the music of Cheap Trick, Lou Reed, Debbie Harry and Iggy Pop. in this strange Canadian effort an aged Mick Jagger type is looking for the perfect voice to help him open a portal in to another dimension, though it's far from being a serious affair, mixing slapstick and camp villainy with some interesting visuals and all round oddness. It's slightly lacking in substance to make it something truly special but there's certainly a great deal to like about it. 7.4/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Rock on January 14, 2018, 12:26:44 AM
In Bruges

I'd be saving this one after it kept getting such good word of mouth since its release, so figured it would be good. It was much better than good. You've probably all seen it, so I won't review it, except to say it was very funny in places, and that wasn't what I was expecting. The two central performances were so good. Can't fault it except perhaps Colin Farrell's character seemed more unkillable than Rasputin at the end, which was a bit unbeliavable.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 14, 2018, 12:35:58 AM
Colin Farrell's character seemed more unkillable than Rasputin at the end, which was a bit unbeliavable.

It's been a while since I've seen it, but we don't know that he doesn't die, do we? 
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 12:40:39 AM
posting this here because I know I wont get a reply in the technology help thread for a week

A film I wanna see is only available on the american amazon video
can you buy films on the american amazon video and then watch it? surely there'd be some location copyright shite ala Netflix right? 
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Rock on January 14, 2018, 12:41:59 AM
It's been a while since I've seen it, but we don't know that he doesn't die, do we? 

No we don't. But the with multiple gunshots he received towards the end, it seemed unlikely he would stand a chance of surviving as long as he did to get to an ambulance.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 14, 2018, 12:48:34 AM
can you buy films on the american amazon video and then watch it? surely there'd be some location copyright shite ala Netflix right?

I don't know for sure, but probably yes, there would be some location shite.  I imagine they also have a similar proxy detector.

Which film?  Would it be as cheap (or cheaper) to just get it on DVD?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 14, 2018, 12:50:59 AM
No we don't. But the with multiple gunshots he received towards the end, it seemed unlikely he would stand a chance of surviving as long as he did to get to an ambulance.

Well, dunno - on the one hand suspension of disbelief for a film, on the other hand people have survived multiple gunshot wounds, so...

Still more believable than Leia turning into Superman/Mary Poppins.  Even with that being in a distant fantasy galaxy.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 01:00:04 AM
I don't know for sure, but probably yes, there would be some location shite.  I imagine they also have a similar proxy detector.

Which film?  Would it be as cheap (or cheaper) to just get it on DVD?
lowest dvd I can find goes for 50 quid
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 14, 2018, 01:19:17 AM
That is one very special film. I've lost count of how many times I've seen it and it's always brilliant

I'm watching it with commentary now. Lots of fun. I was worried it'd be the type of cult classic that's actually very dumb and boring and doesn't live up to its reputation but thankfully this was a fucking blast.

In Bruges

I'd be saving this one after it kept getting such good word of mouth since its release, so figured it would be good. It was much better than good. You've probably all seen it, so I won't review it, except to say it was very funny in places, and that wasn't what I was expecting.

I remember thinking the opposite when I watched it - I'd seen a trailer for it when I went to see Hot Fuzz and the trailer was very upbeat and made it out to be a silly action comedy, so when I sat down to watch it and it was a brooding offbeat piece of darkness I was very put off. Until I looked back on it and realised I actually loved it a lot. This was probably the point at which I consciously started avoiding trailers.

lowest dvd I can find goes for 50 quid

What's the film and do you want someone to "find" it for you?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 03:08:36 AM
What's the film and do you want someone to "find" it for you?
Chameleon Street!
I've tried all the usual surface level torrent sites to no avail
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 14, 2018, 03:57:53 AM
Chameleon Street!
I've tried all the usual surface level torrent sites to no avail

it appears to be on the one whose initials are a bit feline.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 04:00:22 AM
it appears to be on the one whose initials are a bit feline.
DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 14, 2018, 08:05:41 AM
DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS
I believe Sebastian Cobb is referring to a torrenting site which kicks backsides.
First result on Google for this: https://www.google.com.au/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBAU754AU754&ei=-w5bWtWpJ4um8AWk36y4Cg&q=%22chameleon+street%22+torrent&oq=%22chameleon+street%22+torrent&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1260.4651.0.4757.28.15.0.0.0.0.431.1856.3-4j1.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..23.4.1502...0j0i67k1j0i10k1.0.jAb_WYffB6E

Not sure if it works, mind.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on January 14, 2018, 08:20:52 AM
Personally, I've never had much trouble locating films online by simply typing the following into Google: '[INSERT FILM TITLE HERE] putlocker'.

EDIT: Sadly, trying said method for Chameleon Street seems to throw up a bunch of malware infested sites, so I wouldn't recommend it in this particular case.  I guess that it really must be a relatively obscure film, as my aforementioned method works 95% of the time.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Rock on January 14, 2018, 08:21:43 AM
Well, dunno - on the one hand suspension of disbelief for a film, on the other hand people have survived multiple gunshot wounds, so...

It's only a minor criticism, I loved the movie and can go with the idea that is is conceivable to survive multiple gunshot wounds.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 14, 2018, 09:01:39 AM
Personally, I've never had much trouble locating films online by simply typing the following into Google: '[INSERT FILM TITLE HERE] putlocker'.

EDIT: Sadly, trying said method for Chameleon Street seems to throw up a bunch of malware infested sites, so I wouldn't recommend it in this particular case.  I guess that it really must be a relatively obscure film, as my aforementioned method works 95% of the time.

I usually go to alluc.ee for searching places to stream and download stuff. Much of the time it points you to a site called openload.co which is spectacularly filled with things often even torrents won't have. Though even then some rarer stuff is nowhere to be seen/only to be seen on private trackers that I can't be bothered downloading from.

I was actually thinking of starting a "hard to find films and why don't we" thread in the style of the one in the comedy forum, would anyone be up for that?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 10:01:45 AM
Ooooohhh I'll try that out zomgmouse! I always forget about kickass
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 10:04:29 AM
Personally, I've never had much trouble locating films online by simply typing the following into Google: '[INSERT FILM TITLE HERE] putlocker'.

I've noticed sites like putlocker are pretty much extinct in 2018 or are filled with those redirect viruses if you click on anything
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Post by: greenman on January 14, 2018, 11:28:32 AM
Finally got around to watching a DVD on Ida I'v had knocking about for a year, you could say its a little clichéd in its subject mater perhaps, pretty much a checklist for expected eastern Europe arthouse cinema(black and white, the holocaust, nuns, beat up commie cars, jazz, etc) but ultimately I think its carried off well enough to rise above becoming any kind of cliche. I'm struggling to think of many films that are compositionally as strong, you could pause it at pretty much any moment and end up with a very interesting still image, Agata Kulesza is excellent in it as well selling built up resentment/guilt without chewing the scenery.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 14, 2018, 11:50:36 AM
Repo Man must be the only film where the number of letters in the film's title matches the number of letters in the director's name

REPO MAN
ALEX COX

Are there any others?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Rock on January 14, 2018, 12:21:15 PM
JOHN HUSTON
HIGH SIERRA
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 12:25:16 PM
MIKE LEIGH
HIGH HOPES
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 14, 2018, 12:30:52 PM
has anyone ever seen alex cox's i'm a juvie delinquent - jail me? it's an interesting nathan barley-esque curio
 
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Post by: Dr Rock on January 14, 2018, 12:51:33 PM
WOODY ALLEN

MATCH POINT
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 14, 2018, 01:03:24 PM
Just watched Shakes the Clown, another one of those "been meaning to for a long time" films. Really relished the first part though it quickly freewheeled into a bit of a mess - still charming in a dark as fuck way and adds a lot of poignancy with the alcoholism. Goldthwait is marvellous and there's a wonderful Robin Williams cameo. Disturbing and very very funny, especially in the beginning.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Billy on January 14, 2018, 01:12:35 PM
Saw In Bruges on Thursday too (same screening?). For some reason, based on the name and the fact it stars Colin Farrell, I'd always assumed it was some irritating romcom with Farrell playing some quirky hunky Irishman meeting Generic American Woman in Bruges and having a whirlwind romance over lingering shots of the city - like a shit version of Before Sunrise. Was nice to find out it was nothing of the sort and fairly enjoyable.

A day later I ended up watching 'Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri' and thinking "Crikey, this reminds me a lot of In Bruges" being completely oblivious to its connection.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on January 14, 2018, 02:34:27 PM
The Cold Light Of Day (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0356476/) 1989

Fictionalised take on Dennis Nilson. Very bleak, lots of brown and gray, hangovers and picking up blokes in greasy spoons, stranglings, corpse fucking, constant booming background noise that sounds like Darth Vader hyperventilating (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnU-bVIGtdQ), it's not all fun and games though, he looks after a dear old man downstairs and next door's cat while she's away on holiday. The drains eventually get blocked, obviously.

Bad Day For The Cut (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bad_day_for_the_cut) 2017

Irish revenge drama set in Belfast. Farmer bloke lives with his dear old Mum, is not well liked by the locals, comes home to find his Ma with her brains bashed in. After clueless police drawing a blank and further calamities he decides to take justic into his own hands and solve who killed his mother and why, but discovering the truth may find him in over his head. It's not without a touch of humour and reminds me a bit of In Bruges in places.

Ingrid Goes West (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ingrid_goes_west) 2017

One of those films that always reminds me of Heathers, bitchy woman obsessed with another woman inserts herself into her life and tries to use social media to craft a fantasy existence of trendy opulence, until eventually the wheels inevitably fall off, and it's a long way down.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 14, 2018, 06:15:59 PM
Last night I watched This is Your Death. (Also called The Show) On Sky.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2088950/

Not half as clever as it wants to be and a kind of, almost Network wannabe. It was ok actually, entertaining enough and didn't take the piss out of your intelligence too much. It was made by Gus from Breaking Bad.
But then let's put it in context. I love Network and anything satirical about TV so it's in my world already but also I was just bored and putting anything on to avoid getting anywhere near another godawful waste of time marvel superhero film (FUUUUUUUUUUUCK OOOOOFFFFFFFFFF!).

It had the guy from Lost in the Sun which I saw last year and highly recommend. A surprisingly affecting little indie road movie.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3593046/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_12

Network is definitely one of my favourite films. 70's paranoia films are amazing anyway but this is probably my favourite.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: neveragain on January 14, 2018, 06:29:39 PM
Emelie. Creepy babysitter flick. Nice twist on the babysitter-is-terrorised genre. Very strong performance from the lead (and the children too, which is rare). Not to be confused with Amelie.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on January 14, 2018, 07:29:23 PM
Emelie. Creepy babysitter flick. Nice twist on the babysitter-is-terrorised genre. Very strong performance from the lead (and the children too, which is rare). Not to be confused with Amelie.

I forgot I watched that a while back, yeah it's a decent enough addition to the home invasion type genre. Two other recent ones with albeit very different takes on the same kind of premise are Better Watch Out (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/better_watch_out) and The Babysitter (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_babysitter_2017).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on January 14, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
Emelie. Creepy babysitter flick. Nice twist on the babysitter-is-terrorised genre. Very strong performance from the lead (and the children too, which is rare). Not to be confused with Amelie.

I liked this. Saw the ending coming a mile off but still a pretty good film.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 14, 2018, 08:37:29 PM
35mm screening of Punch Drunk Love which I'd forgotten everything about apart from it had Adam Sandler and a harmonium in it.

As an added bonus there was a short also by PTA of Haim recording a few songs in the studio, which was nice.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 14, 2018, 10:17:18 PM
I forgot I watched that a while back, yeah it's a decent enough addition to the home invasion type genre. Two other recent ones with albeit very different takes on the same kind of premise are Better Watch Out (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/better_watch_out) and The Babysitter (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_babysitter_2017).

I quite enjoyed The Babysitter, sure it's a bit trashy but it moves at a fast pace and the second half really delivers on everything that's set up in the first.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 17, 2018, 08:00:02 PM
Guess Who Killed My Twelve Lovers? (Pen Huo Mei Ren Yu, 1970) - This romantic comedy thriller musical from Hong Kong sees a bunch of teenagers stranded on an island with a sexy woman who might be a mental murderess. Or she might be swell, we just don't know. A lot of the songs are pretty bland but their mundane repetitive lyrics often make them somehow bemusing, and there are two which are decent at least. Unfortunately the ending's a bit rushed and slightly rubbish, but in general it has an unusual charm which I was mostly won over by
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dex Sawash on January 17, 2018, 08:45:16 PM
Fight Club I had a snow day today and seemed like a good day to finally watch this. I don't think I get it,  4/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 17, 2018, 08:56:52 PM
nowt to get
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on January 17, 2018, 09:26:50 PM
The Naked Emperor's Army Marches On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3L_3W2SPc), a documentary about an unhinged former Japanese soldier who goes around continuously harassing and actually beating up old men until they admit that they engaged in cannibalism in WWII.  Still one of my favourite ever movies.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on January 17, 2018, 09:30:54 PM
The Naked Emperor's Army Marches On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3L_3W2SPc), a documentary about an unhinged former Japanese soldier who goes around continuously harassing and actually beating up old men until they admit that they engaged in cannibalism in WWII.  Still one of my favourite ever movies.
The spoiler is the beating, surely?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on January 17, 2018, 09:34:27 PM
He does it enough times that not really.  It's bizarre the way they take place.  He bows, makes hushed small talk, suddenly loses it and whacks them upside the head, before bowing again on his way out.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on January 17, 2018, 09:34:41 PM
Gerald's Game (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/geralds_game) 2017

Stephen King adaptation about a sex game gone wrong, the aforementioned Gerald has a heart-attack leaving his wife handcuffed to the bed. Lack of food and water means she starts to hallucinate and things get a bit odd. One of the better King adaptations.

Mayhem (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mayhem_2017) 2017

Similar to the Belko Experiment, office block is closed down because staff are infected with a virus that gives way to their inhibitions which are usually violent. Entertaining enough with a tongue slightly in cheek.

Logan Lucky (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/logan_lucky) 2017

Wacky heist movie starring Daniel Craig doing a Souther accent. I thought it was a load of old mess and wasn't much entertained by it, also not funny at all.

Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 17, 2018, 09:35:13 PM
The Naked Emperor's Army Marches On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3L_3W2SPc), a documentary about an unhinged former Japanese soldier who goes around continuously harassing and actually beating up old men until they admit that they engaged in cannibalism in WWII.  Still one of my favourite ever movies.
ive yet to see this one

go into edit and change the colour to "transparent" manually to spoiler btw
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on January 17, 2018, 09:39:57 PM
Cheers.  Up to now I've just not bothered posting anything spoilery rather than figure that out.  If you do see it (that youtube link has English subs despite it saying they're Spanish), pretend you didn't read that part, as I remember it completely blindsided me when I finally found out the first time I watched it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 17, 2018, 09:50:56 PM
Just finished a 5 hour sleuthing and talking marathon with All the President's Men and Zodiac.  Fuck me, they are great fucking films (ignoring Hoffman's rapiness), President's Men especially.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 19, 2018, 05:37:37 AM
Contraband, an early (1940) Powell/Pressburger collaboration (although only Powell is listed as a directorial credit). Takes a bit too long to get going but once it does it's a fun thriller with some light comic moments and good tense ones as well.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 19, 2018, 07:35:28 PM
Variety (1983)
A Woman Under The Influence of Whom?

was great
sadly it didn't have subtitles so i missed out on A LOT of dialogue cos my tinnitus and hearing have been especially terrible this week
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Mr Banlon on January 19, 2018, 07:45:49 PM
The Friends of Eddie Coyle I'm sure I'd seen it before. Turns out I hadn't. Fucking ace.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 19, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
that the one with the three men with mask on a train?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 19, 2018, 10:00:35 PM
The Friends of Eddie Coyle I'm sure I'd seen it before. Turns out I hadn't. Fucking ace.

Now watch The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (ta to whoever it was that put me on to this).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Mr Banlon on January 19, 2018, 11:11:51 PM
Now watch The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (ta to whoever it was that put me on to this).
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie and Husbands are my two favourite films by the Golden Greek.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Rock on January 19, 2018, 11:25:22 PM
The Friends of Eddie Coyle I'm sure I'd seen it before. Turns out I hadn't. Fucking ace.

It certainly is fucking ace.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on January 20, 2018, 12:32:42 AM
Le pont du Nord by Jacques Rivette
Really enjoyable film buoyed by the charm of the two leads. Amazing what Rivette was able to conjure up with what was evidently a meagre budget.

Hôtel des Amériques by André Téchiné
Starts off intriguingly, but quickly gets airless and slow in a bad way, and ends up grasping at nothing.

Die Sehnsucht der Veronika Voss by Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Really gorgeous tragedy/elegy, and one of Fassbinder's best.

Made in Britain by Alan Clarke
Pretty compelling all the way through, but it's difficult to see it as anything other than a vehicle for Roth's great performance. As social commentary it's a bit strangled.

Fitzcarraldo by Werner Herzog
Finally saw it, it's good. But pretty much exactly what I expected it to be, which was a little disappointing. It feels like the shallowest of Herzog's 'classic period' films.

The Killer Inside Me by Michael Winterbottom
Grim and atmospheric but little more than that. Feels like a re-tread of better films.

Welcome to New York by Abel Ferrara
Phenomenal examination of an empty soul. One of the great 'staring into the abyss' films.

Dog Eat Dog by Paul Schrader
Lots of fun, with some great comic moments from Willem Dafoe. Dares to be genuinely eccentric, but never reaches a pitch of inspired madness. May become a cult film at some point.

The Love Witch by Anna Biller
Impeccably made oddity. Probably a bit long, but very entertaining.

Clash By Night by Fritz Lang
Really great melodrama about betrayal, thwarted ambitions and love being a losing game. Lacks many of the flourishes one might expect from Lang, as the film is much more actor-driven, but it's brilliant stuff.

3 Godfathers by John Ford
Possibly one of the most beautiful colour films I've ever seen in my life. Some of the shots of lonely figures among red sands are absolutely jaw-dropping. Possibly the Ford/Wayne film that has worked the most for me.

Le beau mariage by Éric Rohmer
Great stuff as usual from Rohmer. I love how he writes indecisive, introspective characters without slipping into making them annoying.

Identificazione di una donna by Michelangelo Antonioni
This is a straight-up bad film, folks. A middle-aged man's boring wank fantasy. "Aren't women inscrutable? Blah blah blah." Fuck off Michelangelo
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 20, 2018, 12:40:49 AM
im not having that slate at made in britain
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 20, 2018, 12:52:22 AM
Fitzcarraldo by Werner Herzog
Finally saw it, it's good. But pretty much exactly what I expected it to be, which was a little disappointing. It feels like the shallowest of Herzog's 'classic period' films.

Ok but they dragged a boat









over a mountain



If the audacious grandiosity of that act doesn't move you to a state of crippling awe then I'm afraid you need another think.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on January 20, 2018, 01:00:48 AM
If the audacious grandiosity of that act doesn't move you to a state of crippling awe then I'm afraid you need another think.

Admittedly, even years and years of hearing about how they dragged a boat over a mountain still didn't diminish the impact of seeing it for myself. There's a good 40 mins of the film which is impossible to watch without your jaw on the floor. I'm just unsure about the film he built around it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on January 20, 2018, 01:30:19 AM
I avoided Burden of Dreams because I wanted to see Fitzcarraldo first, but I didn't want to watch Fitzcarraldo all that much asides from to give Burden some context.

Somehow managed to avoid hearing about what they done with the boat, so that part absolutely fucking stunned me. The film was literally just that for me though, damn near Herzog documenting himself. I feel like, as a film, the project was compromised beyond repair once Robards was out and he may as well have cast himself.



Is there a Call Me By Your Name thread?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blumf on January 20, 2018, 01:38:02 AM
The Love Witch by Anna Biller
Impeccably made oddity. Probably a bit long, but very entertaining.

Hah, just watched this tonight myself, been on the stack for a while since I saw Viva a year or two back.

It could do with being a bit snappier. I think Russ Meyer does a better job of editing dialogue, for one obvious comparison. But it's a vibrantly beautiful thing, with that whole technicolor look Biller revels in. Anybody sick of the cyan/orange wash that afflicts most cinema should check her films out for that alone.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 20, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
Ferat Vampire, a Czech horror comedy by Juraj Herz about a vampire car and a doctor who's trying to uncover a conspiracy behind it. It's nice to see Herz's sense of humour come out more here. Some of the horror sequences are pretty cool and the fact that it's got a car race built into it adds to the thrills. Really liked this.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Fabian Thomsett on January 20, 2018, 02:29:22 PM
Mouse on the Moon. Follow up to The Mouse That Roared. No Sellers in this one but there's Bernard Cribbins, John LeMesurier, Terry Thomas et al - and Richard Lester (no less) in the director's chair. Unfortunately they're not given much to work with. I get the feeling the original cut was somewhat longer (Frankie Howard turns up in one scene and then promptly vanishes, there's a romantic subplot that seems to stop not long after it starts) but restoring those cut scenes wouldn't have added anything to the overall quality, really.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on January 20, 2018, 05:36:52 PM
Sins of the Fleshapoids which after many years of not being able to find it I found and subsequently watched and despite knowing a little about this I was still struck be the utter ridiculous charm of it, it fits into no boxes I can think of and yet feels like so many other things. It's not the kind of thing you can just straightforwardly appreciate. There is something definitely otherworldly about this. It's almost like a film made by aliens who think this is what filmmaking is. I am not sure I remember any of the plot beyond "there's robots... who love" and it's still glorious. Dialogue is written on screen instead of spoken, and there's a narration over the top. The sets and costumes and props are so eclectic and grand and yet so regular some of the time (football helmet, toy robot) that is creates a really striking effect. Chalk this up as an outsider classic.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 20, 2018, 10:11:24 PM
What Happened to Monday (2017) - A Netflix film set in a dystopian future where there's a one child policy, except Willem Dafoe refuses to acknowledge it and has seven identical granddaughters. Thirty years later (with Dafoe now mysteriously absent) one disappears and it appears the government's on to them, but is it as simple as that? Not quite, but at the same time it's not far off. Rapace puts in a decent enough performance but Dafoe's only onscreen for about five minutes, and it soon becomes a generic and fairly disappointing action flick. 5.4/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 20, 2018, 10:16:34 PM
What Happened to Monday (2017) - A Netflix film set in a dystopian future where there's a one child policy, except Willem Dafoe refuses to acknowledge it and has seven identical granddaughters. Thirty years later (with Dafoe now mysteriously absent) one disappears and it appears the government's on to them, but is it as simple as that? Not quite, but at the same time it's not far off. Rapace puts in a decent enough performance but Dafoe's only onscreen for about five minutes, and it soon becomes a generic and fairly disappointing action flick. 5.4/10

Would agree with your assessment.  Mrs Nose confidently had the twist figured out VERY early on (way before I did), although she liked it a lot more than I did as well.

RE Dafoe's "absence", don't they mention that he's dead when they're all sat having dinner? (that's not a spoiler)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 20, 2018, 11:36:06 PM
Would agree with your assessment.  Mrs Nose confidently had the twist figured out VERY early on (way before I did), although she liked it a lot more than I did as well.

Yeah, I guessed the twist as the amount of space and power it'd take to keep all of the kids frozen would be ridiculously high, and as we didn't see Monday die I presumed she'd double crossed everyone.

Quote
RE Dafoe's "absence", don't they mention that he's dead when they're all sat having dinner? (that's not a spoiler)

It's very likely, my other half was loudly heckling the film so I missed the odd bit.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Glebe on January 21, 2018, 05:13:48 AM
Delighted to finally catch Future Shock! The Story of 2000AD on Film Four the other night. Interesting stuff.

This is the third comic-related thing I've posted in a row. I've gone 'comics-mental!'
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 21, 2018, 05:27:03 PM
Just seen Magnolia at the cinema, bit long, although it felt less long than it actually was I guess. Seemed quite similar to Short Cuts, which also starred Juliane Moore, the car in the garage scene seemed especially close but the whole story itself differed enough I suppose. Would've probably enjoyed it even more if I'd left a bigger space between the two. Good though.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on January 21, 2018, 05:56:46 PM
The Killing of a Sacred Deer
Lathimos at his most aimless, neither especially funny (and I usually find his films hilarious) not especially incisive, a very hollow grimness in a not particularly interesting way.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Serge on January 21, 2018, 08:43:55 PM
Delighted to finally catch Future Shock! The Story of 2000AD on Film Four the other night. Interesting stuff.

I would happily have watched an extended version featuring extra Pat Mills swearing and slagging people off.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Cerys on January 21, 2018, 08:55:48 PM
I finally got around to watching Sharknado last night.  A ridiculous romp of a film.  Do the sequels measure up?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 21, 2018, 09:02:39 PM
I finally got around to watching Sharknado last night.  A ridiculous romp of a film.  Do the sequels measure up?

I enjoyed 2 a great deal, ignored 3 and 4 due to mixed reviews, but then 5 is a real return to form. And if you like this sort of thing I'd recommend Lavalantula, I'm not hugely in to SyFy / Asylum films but that one's got a really smart script, along with Steve Guttenberg and a few others from the cast of Police Academy fighting giant lava spitting spiders.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Cerys on January 21, 2018, 09:05:44 PM
Better than Big Ass Spider?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 21, 2018, 09:20:48 PM
Better than Big Ass Spider?

Yes, though that was a lot of fun too. Whatever you do avoid 2 Lava 2 Lantula though, that was horrendously bad and not in an enjoyable way.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 21, 2018, 10:22:47 PM
Yes, though that was a lot of fun too. Whatever you do avoid 2 Lava 2 Lantula though, that was horrendously bad and not in an enjoyable way.
What he said. Sharknado...3? is the one with all the right-wingers in it, so I avoided that, but the one after is sort of fun. Part 2 is probably the best one.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 21, 2018, 10:41:04 PM
The Fundamentals Of Caring (2016) - On paper this sounds like it could be pretty awful stuff, what with Paul Rudd's recently bereaved father becoming a carer for Craig Roberts, a guy with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy. But in fact it's all a bit special, mainly due to the script's dark yet honest sense of humour, whilst it also manages to be genuinely touching and sweet as well. 8.4/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: samadriel on January 21, 2018, 11:29:06 PM
What he said. Sharknado...3? is the one with all the right-wingers in it, so I avoided that, but the one after is sort of fun. Part 2 is probably the best one.
I've got to know: what right-wingers? And how does their right-wingness manifest in the movie?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 21, 2018, 11:37:01 PM
I've got to know: what right-wingers? And how does their right-wingness manifest in the movie?
The main ones were Mark Cuban and Ann Coulter as President and Vice-President. Michelle Bachmann was in it too, as was lame blue-collar comedy idiot Bill Engvall. As to how their right-wingness manifests itself in the movie, I didn't watch it so I have no idea. I read at the time that the producer was either a regular Fox News talking head, or had Tea Party ties, or something like that, so I just never bothered with it. I only saw part 4 because it was on telly one day and I was bored.

Part 3 also has Jared Fogle, later convicted on child porn charges, Anthony Weiner, famed penis-displayer, and Matt Lauer, later forced to resign in disgrace after women he'd sexually abused started coming forward, so there's that, too.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: samadriel on January 21, 2018, 11:55:52 PM
Wow, you'd think Sharknado's appeal was limited enough as it is.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 22, 2018, 12:24:27 AM
Local Hero - Classic Bill Forsythe really, nice story with a reasonably maudlin ending; a young Peter Capaldi and Mr Mackaye from porridge star.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 22, 2018, 12:42:29 AM
that reminds me i need to see the apparently forsyth clone Soft Top Hard Shoulder that was scripted by Capaldi
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 22, 2018, 01:04:40 AM
that reminds me i need to see the apparently forsyth clone Soft Top Hard Shoulder that was scripted by Capaldi

I saw that at the cinema as I had a friend who was ridiculously patriotic and insisted on seeing any British film on the big screen. I remember it being fairly charming fare, nothing amazing but enjoyable enough. But as I've often mentioned, that was my self from the nineties and he was a fucking idiot at times.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 22, 2018, 01:18:16 AM
The Recent remake of Whiskey Galore! is a good Forsythe-esque affair.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 22, 2018, 01:48:41 AM
The Recent remake of Whiskey Galore! is a good Forsythe-esque affair.
I really didn't like it, but I am far from the definitive voice on such matters.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 22, 2018, 01:51:14 AM
The Recent remake of Whiskey Galore! is a good Forsythe-esque affair.
didnt know they remade it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisky_Galore!_(2016_film)

along with the dads army remake its one for the desolation thread
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Glebe on January 22, 2018, 05:21:47 AM
I would happily have watched an extended version featuring extra Pat Mills swearing and slagging people off.

Yes, he's good value for money! Didn't know about all that hoo-hay with the new editors during the '90s and that.

Kevin O' Neill signing all my League of Extraordinary Gentlemen books was one of the highlights of my admittedly rather sad life.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Fabian Thomsett on January 22, 2018, 03:38:18 PM
The Old Dark House (William Castle version) - God, what a load of shit. Don't ever watch it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 23, 2018, 12:02:13 AM
Delighted to finally catch Future Shock! The Story of 2000AD on Film Four the other night. Interesting stuff.

This is the third comic-related thing I've posted in a row. I've gone 'comics-mental!'

I'd forgotten about this until you mentioned it but watched it tonight and really enjoyed it. It over praises the comic a little bit but it was a really enjoyable nostalgia trip and there are some great anecdotes, most of which seemed to involve Pat Mills in one way or another. Thought it was a bit odd that they didn't mention the Dredd Megazine at all, and stories like America, but apart from that I've no complaints.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on January 23, 2018, 03:00:57 AM
Querelle by Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Loved it. Gorgeously delirious. What a way to go.

Une chambre en ville by Jacques Demy
Bit of a late masterpiece. Wonderfully poignant in that very Demy way. Feels smaller scale than his earlier work, and it's difficult to tell whether that's intentional or because of dwindling resources due to Demy's stock having fallen. After a few clunky films, he was clearly back on form with this one.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dex Sawash on January 23, 2018, 04:58:25 AM
Re-re-re_ watched Planet of the Apes (1968) a few weeks ago and thought I might look at the newer ones.

The 2001 one with Marky Mark or Matt Damon (always have to look up which one it was in anything) might be one for the not good movies you liked thread. I liked the setup for the time travel and twist for where the apes came from. The girl apes all looked like Michael Jackson and the Paul Giamati ape looked like Jim Carey's Grinch. Was disappoint that Marky/Matt didn't knob a Michael Jackson or the blonde human.

Rise of the POTA (2011)
It's got Franco in it, not looking good. Then Lithgow shows up and he has Alzheimer's. Then some cunt zookeeper is shitty to the monkeys apes. Decided maybe I won't watch all of this one tonight.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Judge Foozle on January 23, 2018, 06:10:44 AM
Two Richard Hearne features - Something In The City (1950) and Tons Of Trouble (1956). Until recently I always said that "Something" is the only watchable Hearne movie, but I decided to revisit Tons Of Trouble, as it was on Talking Pictures (UK Freeview 81) and was pleasantly surprised.
"Something" is a very original story of a double-life family man, posing as a City finance executive at home, but actually working as a pavement artist in central London, having a changing-room location along the way. As always with Mr. Pastry, things go horribly wrong (or there would be no film).
Tons Of Trouble sees Hearne, as Mr. Pastry, in an old-style block of service-flats (remember them?) looking after the boilers, and again everything goes wrong to (mild) comedy effect.
Hearne is never so good in movies as in his short Mr. Pastry TV sketches, where he is a one-man Laurel and Hardy, and he only made half a dozen movies. "Something" is by far the best one, and a couple are in the "dire" category, but these two are at least watchable.
For those who have seen Hearne before, here he is again, and for those who haven't seen him before, you can see him again next time, but it's good to know these movies are still around and being shown on TV!
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 23, 2018, 12:26:54 PM
Querelle by Rainer Werner Fassbinder
Loved it. Gorgeously delirious. What a way to go.
The poster could have done with being a bit more obvious about the themes of the movie, I reckon:

(https://queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com/wp/docs/2015/06/kinopoisk.ru-Querelle-629350.jpg)
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Post by: Blinder Data on January 23, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
Get Shorty, second time around. The cast is fantastic - their performances are pitched perfectly, particularly DeVito who is brilliant as the portentous award-winning actor. The dialogue zips along. A supremely entertaining film, the sort I could watch again and again.
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Post by: Z on January 23, 2018, 11:08:46 PM
Small Town Ecstasy
Not very good, Cum Town oversold the ecstasy addicted dad to me.
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Post by: zomgmouse on January 24, 2018, 12:43:54 PM
The Limits of Control. I've now seen all of Jarmusch's non-documentary features. More importantly, this was excellent. Moody and perhaps his most minimalistically existential film. The sparseness is mesmerising. Great cast and great visually. Made for very enthralling viewing considering it's largely about a man going around being mysterious.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on January 24, 2018, 01:21:26 PM
Finished watching Rise of Planet of the Apes from up the page. Not great but maybe OK as a setup for a new ape film universe. No idea if the other newish ape films are inthis universe.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 25, 2018, 09:57:36 AM
Can't seem to find film4 The Slab Boys (1997)
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on January 26, 2018, 08:47:58 AM
^ wrong thread, lol

watched madness's take it or leave it last night. an amateur pop film type thing really enjoyable
 
would make great double with paul anka's lonely boy
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 26, 2018, 09:45:05 AM
The original Walking Tall for the first time in about 25 years.  Fair play for the progressive race relations stuff for an early 70s film, but stone me has it aged badly.  It's like a cut-price Don Siegel film.  Lots of extras looking straight at the camera as well.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 26, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
Timecop 2: The Berlin Decision

I try to ignore paradox bollocks when watching a good time travel movie, but this wasn't a good...I feel like, when I set up my own Time Enforcement Commission, the first ten minutes of every agent's return from a mission will be a series of "notice anything different?" questions; or I'd invent time-change-immune paper and have every agent carry a newspaper from the day they left, so their co-workers can check to see if anything's changed (if your agent is a baddie).

Still, Jason Scott Lee was pretty good in it.
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Post by: zomgmouse on January 26, 2018, 11:29:03 AM
The Limits of Control. I've now seen all of Jarmusch's non-documentary features. More importantly, this was excellent. Moody and perhaps his most minimalistically existential film. The sparseness is mesmerising. Great cast and great visually. Made for very enthralling viewing considering it's largely about a man going around being mysterious.

There's a brilliant 50-minute behind-the-scenes featurette as a special feature on the DVD of this that goes into a lot of Jarmusch's philosophy, process and personality, and in particular regarding the shooting of this film. Plus some nice interviews with some of its actors.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 26, 2018, 08:50:10 PM
First Sunday, which I mistakenly thought was another entry in the Friday series (of which I'm fond).

Poor.  Most of the subplots left unresolved, has a happy ending thanks to a totally random and unexplained maguffin, and Katt Williams.

Also Tracy Morgan continues to get right on my tits.  His voice sounds like someone trying to do a Donald Duck impression but not quite managing it.

3/10.
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Post by: Z on January 26, 2018, 08:55:45 PM
Eadweard Muybridge, Zoopraxographer
Pretty cool, seemed to just flatly run out of material though.

Persistence of Vision
Documentary about the Thief and the Cobbler, pretty cool but would've benefitted from being a bit more focused on Richard Williams (perhaps respected his wishes to not be involved a bit too much).
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 26, 2018, 09:04:12 PM
Is Morgan alright these days, I thought he smashed his brain up or something.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on January 26, 2018, 09:17:26 PM
Is Morgan alright these days, I thought he smashed his brain up or something.

He is alright (doesn't seem any different to me, in fact - just as fucking annoying as he was before), but First Sunday was way before the accident.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 27, 2018, 11:01:34 PM
The Hole (1998) - A musical made in Taiwan, according to imdb "While never-ending rain and a strange disease spread by cockroaches ravage Taiwan, a plumber makes a hole between two apartments and the inhabitants of each form a unique connection, enacted in musical numbers", and from that I was expecting a fun, offbeat and weird film. But christ no, this is a bleak, damp, depressing effort where the two neighbours barely have any contact with each other for long periods of time, and instead we get exciting footage of them eating, drinking, or boiling fucking water on their lonesome. There's only three songs during the first hour and throughout that time I only carried on watching as I couldn't believe I was witnessing something so bizarrely boring, and just presumed it had to pick up. But it doesn't and this is easily one of the worst films I've seen in years. 2.2/10

I Stand Alone (1998) - Another bleak effort, this time from cheeky french funster Gasper Noe. It's vaguely like Naked mixed with Falling Down as we follow around an unemployed butcher who never stops rambling away, an almost always unpleasant stream of consciousness featuring a fuck load of sexism, racism, homophobia and all round nihilism. Still, it's an interesting insight in to the kind of human being you'd hope won't exist for too much longer, and a warning to all that elderly butchers can't be trusted. 8.2/10
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Post by: Steven on January 27, 2018, 11:29:53 PM
Now watch The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (ta to whoever it was that put me on to this).

Moi.

The Mudge Boy 2003 (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mudge_boy)

Weird farm kid is picked on by the locals, his mother dies and maybe in some attempt to feel a connection he starts to wear her clothes and affect her voice. He then happens to strike up an unlikely friendship with a more popular older boy from the next farm over who takes him into his strange confidences. A strange, funny and haunting film that stays with you. Very Gay.

The Strange Ones 2017 (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_strange_ones_2018)

Two strangers hustle into town, a boy and his older brother but they can't ever stay long. The older brother is very personable but the boy is strange and averse to either of them making any friends. There seems to be more going on to their relationship than it seems, but this odd story all comes out in the wash. A bit gay.

Radius 2017 (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/radius)

Bloke wakes up with amnesia after a car accident and discovers anybody who comes within 50 feet of him instantly dies, he decides to live in seclusion for the rest of his days, until a woman discovers him who seems unaffected. Entertaining enough and sticks to the premise. Not gay at all.
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Post by: St_Eddie on January 28, 2018, 01:48:47 AM
The Hole (1998) - A musical made in Taiwan, according to imdb "While never-ending rain and a strange disease spread by cockroaches ravage Taiwan, a plumber makes a hole between two apartments and the inhabitants of each form a unique connection, enacted in musical numbers", and from that I was expecting a fun, offbeat and weird film. But christ no, this is a bleak, damp, depressing effort where the two neighbours barely have any contact with each other for long periods of time, and instead we get exciting footage of them eating, drinking, or boiling fucking water on their lonesome. There's only three songs during the first hour and throughout that time I only carried on watching as I couldn't believe I was witnessing something so bizarrely boring, and just presumed it had to pick up. But it doesn't and this is easily one of the worst films I've seen in years. 2.2/10

The Hole (2001) - A rather underrated British thriller.  I didn't like it at all, upon my initial viewing but repeat viewings have endeared it to me. 7/10

The Hole (2009) - Not one of Joe Dante's best but the killer puppet clown has echos of the titular creatures in Dante's Gremlins and as always, Bruce Dern (whom also appeared in Dante's The Burbs) is excellent. 5/10
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Post by: Z on January 28, 2018, 06:19:07 AM
The Hole (2001) - A rather underrated British thriller.  I didn't like it at all, upon my initial viewing but repeat viewings have endeared it to me. 7/10

The Hole (2009) - Not one of Joe Dante's best but the killer puppet clown has echos of the titular creatures in Dante's Gremlins and as always, Bruce Dern (whom also appeared in Dante's The Burbs) is excellent. 5/10
You should check out Le Trou
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 28, 2018, 10:18:07 AM
Last night I watched The Baader-Meinhof Complex a retelling of the real-life people involved in the West German far-left militant terrorist group the RAF. It was well made and quite interesting, I've not seen a good and action-packed retelling like this since I watched Mesrine. I think I'll need to watch it again though as my mind wandered a little and I missed a couple of bits.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on January 28, 2018, 10:52:21 AM
Running Scared (2006)

This has a high score on IMDB, a solid cast (and Paul Walker), was made by the bloke who made The Cooler, and a pretty good premise (a gun goes missing, Walker's low level hood has to find it to save himself grief), but the dialogue is so cliched and terrible that I couldn't stop laughing

It also never knows when to stop, and has about five endings. The last of which made me actually shout "oh fuck off willya" at the screen.

There's a really laughable subplot where Vera Farmiga stumbles upon a house with a peadophile couple shooting their peadophile films, and instead of shopping them to the fuzz, she of course shoots them both in cold blood, and just walks off. I mean, they deserved it, but she was a housewife five minutes previously, not the bleedin' Punisher

Some Bloke From The Sopranos is the main mob boss, and his final scene is so over the top and hammy it becomes hilarious. A kid points a gun at him and he goes "Whatcha gon do wit dat, you Cheerio-muncher!" Unless I dreamt this bit, but I really don't think I did. Cheerios were mentioned.

Anyway, RIP Paul Walker, sweet angle, but you were an appalling actor, and this film was a big load of skiddies
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Post by: Z on January 28, 2018, 11:50:43 AM
The Red Shoes
Always felt this was firmly the fourth best Archers film (of the four I've seen) and this viewing just confirmed that. It's all very well done but I struggle to give a shit about most of it.
Spent the second half of the film trying to see how much I could compare the plot to the biography of Zwan.
Shout out to the person who went into hysterics at the "this is a work of fiction" disclaimer at the start, and the guy who obliviously ate a packet of crisps really slowly for about half an hour as a few people made a fucking ton of noise shushing him.
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Post by: zomgmouse on January 28, 2018, 12:45:05 PM
The Red Shoes
Always felt this was firmly the fourth best Archers film (of the four I've seen) and this viewing just confirmed that. It's all very well done but I struggle to give a shit about most of it.
Spent the second half of the film trying to see how much I could compare the plot to the biography of Zwan.
Shout out to the person who went into hysterics at the "this is a work of fiction" disclaimer at the start, and the guy who obliviously ate a packet of crisps really slowly for about half an hour as a few people made a fucking ton of noise shushing him.

What would you rate as better? I think this is the best one I've seen so far and is in fact my favourite film.
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Post by: Z on January 28, 2018, 01:20:50 PM
Probably in this order:
1. Black Narcissus
2. A Matter of Life and Death
3. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp

Might swap 1 and 2 (but probably not, Black Narcissus is a beast of a film in a cinema), 3 and 4 probably are tight too.
Four great films, mind. RE: the Red Shoes, I just find the combination of how on the nose it is and it's running time don't pair very well. The first half feels like it's close to hitting an ending of its own but then it winds up just being a very drawn out first act instead.
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Post by: St_Eddie on January 29, 2018, 05:58:24 AM
You should check out Le Trou

I'm aware that you were being mostly facetious but a quick Google search reveals it to be a well regarded film, so I've added it to the list.  Cheers.
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Post by: zomgmouse on January 29, 2018, 07:20:51 AM
Probably in this order:
1. Black Narcissus
2. A Matter of Life and Death
3. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp

Might swap 1 and 2 (but probably not, Black Narcissus is a beast of a film in a cinema), 3 and 4 probably are tight too.
Four great films, mind. RE: the Red Shoes, I just find the combination of how on the nose it is and it's running time don't pair very well. The first half feels like it's close to hitting an ending of its own but then it winds up just being a very drawn out first act instead.

Not seen Blimp yet (it's been at the top of my to watch pile for years) but I'd go Shoes, Matter and then Narcissus (http://Narcissus). Then probably Hoffmann. The latter is phenomenal of course but perhaps I'd need to see it again to be hit a bit more by it. When I saw it, it was the second in a double bill of that and (my second or third viewing of) The Red Shoes which once again bowled me over. I just love the extraordinary precision and passion of The Red Shoes. I can't say I felt the runtime, and I'm consistently dumbstruck by it. Though the dizzying mountain repression of Black Narcissus does instil me with a deep awe as well. Those mattes are incredible.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on January 29, 2018, 01:40:05 PM
Rise of the planet of the apes-

Was ready for a slog through even worse 2nd (or 9th, depending how you count) film in series. Was a good film, especially for one of those summer films. Just read the thread and have nothing clever to add [/spoiler]
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Post by: gout_pony on January 30, 2018, 12:47:09 AM
I've been really enjoying the work of Spanish silent film pioneer Camille de Morlhon Segundo de Chomón this last week. They feel like bootleg Méliès, which on some level they are... but while Méliès has always struck me as wanting to seduce his audience, de Chomón seems keen to perturb and confuse! If Méliès brought dreams to film then de Chomón brought nightmares - scrabby, putrid, tumble-down, authentically unhinged nightmates! You can practically smell the special effects reeking through the screen in some cases. They have an affective frisson that I've generally only found in Surrealist filmmakers - Buñuel; Borowczyk; Švankmajer. In fact the sheer destructive energy and the violence of the stop-motion in de Chomón's weirdest works really recall Švankmajer, though I don't know if the Czech Surrealist has ever excited him as an influence.

Some of you might prefer watching in silence, but I've found Elfman's soundtrack to Beetlejuice (which I re-watched recently and didn't care for as much as I remembered, though the set design/ art direction are wonderful, as is Elfman's score) effective as is the sillier orchestral Zappa.

The Panicky Picnic (1909)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw5yKcu4W00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw5yKcu4W00)

I love how unapologetically gross this is - it's like it takes place in a world in which all organic matter (including humans) is mouldy.

The Electric Hotel (1908)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzru63JBSE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzru63JBSE)

There are some joyous stop-motion tricks here and the brushes in particular reminded me of Švankmajer (though the film is more Terry Gilliam in tone).

The Haunted Mansion (1908)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_JGZgws2gI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_JGZgws2gI)

This one is a pretty blatant Méliès rip-off, but - for me - one-ups Méliès in terms of the vividness of its imagery and the inventiveness of its special effects.
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Post by: zomgmouse on January 30, 2018, 01:40:00 AM
I have not heard of this person but he sounds amazing.
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Post by: gout_pony on January 30, 2018, 10:47:10 AM
I have not heard of this person but he sounds amazing.

He's so clearly the most awesome early silent film director! [I'm talking of the pre-1920s, of course - he doesn't quite measure up to the likes of Lang and Murnau] I now feel obliged to raise awareness!

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/Segundo_de_Chom%C3%B3n.jpg/220px-Segundo_de_Chom%C3%B3n.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/La_casa_hechizada_%281906%29_de_Chom%C3%B3n.jpg)
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on January 30, 2018, 11:15:06 AM
I've never really watched a silent film but ended up buying a ticket for an upcoming showing of Assunta Spina with 7 piece performing a live score.

Keep meaning to watch A Man With a Movie Camera as well. 
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Post by: zomgmouse on January 31, 2018, 04:32:13 AM
The Dracula Saga, a fairly missable but still quite eerie and weird vampire film where Dracula's granddaughter comes back to the castle not knowing her family are vampires until mysterious killings start happening. However there is a VAMPIRE BABY WHO DRINKS HIS MOTHER'S BLOOD FROM THE INSIDE.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on January 31, 2018, 10:24:42 PM
Pitch Perfect (2012) - Surprisingly funny romcom which affectionately sends up singing competitions. There's a few too many songs and it's formulaic as hell but otherwise is enjoyable stuff. 6.9/10

The Suicide Shop (2012) - An animated musical comedy from Patrice Leconte, director of The Hairdresser's Husband and Monsieur Hire. Vaguely like a french Addams Family but where a deranged family run a shop which sells everything you need to help you commit suicide, from poisons to rope to samurai swords. But then a third, happy, child is born to the couple and their world is thrown in to disarray. It's got great songs, a dark but also daft sense of humour, and for me is one of those "Where have you been all my life?" kind of films - it even made me think that suicide might not be a good thing, and it's a rare day where such thoughts feel believable! 8.4/10
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on January 31, 2018, 11:52:37 PM
Nudist Colony Of The Dead

Shot on super-8, partially, but the quality of it was so dodgy in places that when he came to re-release the film on DVD, the director ended up using a bunch of VHS shots taken for a behind-the-scenes documentary, so several scenes are filmed from odd angles.

Anyway, it's a musical comedy about a bunch of zombie nudists killing the religious assholes who cost them their land. Good fun, if not quite as funny as it wishes it was.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 01, 2018, 11:31:25 AM
Nudist Colony Of The Dead

Shot on super-8, partially, but the quality of it was so dodgy in places that when he came to re-release the film on DVD, the director ended up using a bunch of VHS shots taken for a behind-the-scenes documentary, so several scenes are filmed from odd angles.

Anyway, it's a musical comedy about a bunch of zombie nudists killing the religious assholes who cost them their land. Good fun, if not quite as funny as it wishes it was.

I watched that a couple of months ago and wrote a mini-review, only to never get round to posting it:

Nudist Colony of the Dead - A 1991 horror comedy musical film which was shot on Super-8 film and only cost $35,000 - and boy can you tell! I watched a supposedly remastered version but the quality is still shockingly poor, with it often looking like a pirated vhs cam copy of a 70s film. But despite all of that it is fairly funny in places, it's deliberate cartoonish feel has a mild charm, and the only topless nudity doesn't feel overtly gratuitous. I mean it's definitely gratuitous, how could it not be, but I didn't feel uncomfortable watching it. So that's nice. The songs are largely quite simple and yet oddly upbeat, which makes them quite endearing, even if lyrically they're occasionally weak. On the downside it's worryingly slightly racist in places - with two anti-semetic jokes and the sentence "coloured guy knocking at back door" uttered within the first twenty minutes, but I don't think it's intentionally mean, just misjudged. A shame though, as it means I can't wholeheartedly recommend it to people. 7.1/10
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 01, 2018, 12:07:50 PM
Who Dares Wins.

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

(wipes tears from eyes)

Ohhhhhh dear.

Americans fucking love it don't they. 


Also Waterworld, which I'd not seen since the cinema and had forgotten most of it.  Meh, it's alright for a couple of hours of mindless entertainment.  Some of the action sequences are genuinely good.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 01, 2018, 12:21:02 PM
...Waterworld, which I'd not seen since the cinema and had forgotten most of it.  Meh, it's alright for a couple of hours of mindless entertainment.  Some of the action sequences are genuinely good.

I quite like Waterworld but I really feel that it could have benefited from a more 'down and dirty' script and a hard R rating.  In essence, all of the ingredients were there to make it a nautical version of Mad Max but instead, they aimed it at the family market.  You need only look towards Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome, to know that watering down (no pun intended) this kind of post apocalyptic concept, only serves to dilute it.

I've always found it telling that the best scene in the film, is the scene where some horrible sleazebag tries to bargain to have sex with the child.  If they'd maintained that kind of gritty apocalyptic feel and thrown some blood and guts into the equation, then I reckon it could have been a very fine film indeed.  As it is, it's an entertaining enough way to pass a couple of hours, whenever it comes on TV.

Also, it must be said that this moment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZvbhy5lDgY) is hilarious.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 01, 2018, 12:44:40 PM
Also, it must be said that this moment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZvbhy5lDgY) is hilarious.

I knew what that was going to be before I even clicked the link...


It was never going to be a Mad Max/Road Warrior on water, though, as long as both Kevins (Reynolds especially) were involved creatively.  They just don't have that kind of directing style.  Even taking their respective grittiest director credits (Hatfields and Mccoys for Reynolds, Open Range for Costner), they still both have a natural tendency towards soft-focus and earnestness.  So even if you had someone like, I dunno, peak Andrew Kevin Walker writing it, it still would mostly have come out the same I expect.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 01, 2018, 03:30:50 PM
It was never going to be a Mad Max/Road Warrior on water, though, as long as both Kevins (Reynolds especially) were involved creatively.  They just don't have that kind of directing style.  Even taking their respective grittiest director credits (Hatfields and Mccoys for Reynolds, Open Range for Costner), they still both have a natural tendency towards soft-focus and earnestness.  So even if you had someone like, I dunno, peak Andrew Kevin Walker writing it, it still would mostly have come out the same I expect.

You're right of course but a man can dream.
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Post by: Z on February 01, 2018, 09:09:44 PM
Short Cuts
If it weren't for a few weak performances (is Andie MacDowell good in anything?), and the ending, this could've been an all time fave. Absolutely loved the most of it.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 01, 2018, 09:13:43 PM
Yeah, Short Cuts is decent.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 01, 2018, 09:44:52 PM
Short Cuts has many amazing high points, but I'd agree that it does kind of fumble the landing
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 01, 2018, 09:45:25 PM
The poster could have done with being a bit more obvious about the themes of the movie, I reckon:

(https://queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com/wp/docs/2015/06/kinopoisk.ru-Querelle-629350.jpg)

Reposting this because i love it
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 02, 2018, 12:58:17 AM
Reposting this because i love it

Yeah, can we all just agree to ensure that this poster makes an appearance on every page, please?  Thanks.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on February 02, 2018, 10:12:50 PM

Scrolling through the HBO app last night, The Great Wall, fuckitplay.
Marky/Matt, Walken (mails it in) and Javier from Narcos. Pretty much same as the Marco Polo TV series with added dragon-like creatures. Did have some daft anti-dragon-like creature weapon systems that were fun.
4/10
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 02, 2018, 10:16:26 PM
Yeah, can we all just agree to ensure that this poster makes an appearance on every page, please?  Thanks.

this but unironically
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 02, 2018, 10:31:19 PM
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Post by: Thursday on February 02, 2018, 10:46:17 PM
Heat 1995.

Got bored and started looking at twitter at other things while it was on. Too long and boring. Knew this would be one of those "classics" people wank on about that I don't get on with, so it's definitely my fault and I just approached it with the wrong attitude and in the wrong mood but pfft.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 02, 2018, 10:54:58 PM
Heat 1995.

Got bored and started looking at twitter at other things while it was on. Too long and boring. Knew this would be one of those "classics" people wank on about that I don't get on with, so it's definitely my fault and I just approached it with the wrong attitude and in the wrong mood but pfft.

I was the same when I tried to watch it.

I don't get it people go on about films like this that seriously need condensing, yet have the temerity to say 'nothing happens' in things like Robert Altman films where things are constantly happening.

Anyway last night I watched Kinetta - the first solo outing by Yorgos Lanthimos, the guy behind Dogtooth and The Lobster. You could tell he was still finding his feet, and it did seem a bit slow and missing something but you can see some of the absurdist bits creeping in. It was 'alright'.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 02, 2018, 11:01:03 PM
every michael mann film makes me feel dizzy
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 02, 2018, 11:25:13 PM
the poster boy for vulgar auterism

the films he made on DV look like utter shit now
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 02, 2018, 11:32:26 PM
this but unironically

I wasn't being ironic.

Heat 1995.

Got bored and started looking at twitter at other things while it was on. Too long and boring. Knew this would be one of those "classics" people wank on about that I don't get on with, so it's definitely my fault and I just approached it with the wrong attitude and in the wrong mood but pfft.

I think that Heat is a load of old bollocks too.  It also features one of Pacino's worst performances.  Grossly overrated.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 02, 2018, 11:35:27 PM
Hitchcock was the first vulgar auteur
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Post by: Blumf on February 03, 2018, 01:41:52 AM
Heat 1995.

Got bored and started looking at twitter at other things while it was on. Too long and boring. Knew this would be one of those "classics" people wank on about that I don't get on with, so it's definitely my fault and I just approached it with the wrong attitude and in the wrong mood but pfft.

It's all about that bank job/gun battle in the middle, twitter through the rest at ease. Pacino does ham it up a bit too much (fuck the stupid family life background)



Just saw Sorcerer (1977) on Film4. This thread (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=41556.0) liked it a lot, and I'm with them. Well worth a look.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 03, 2018, 05:26:40 AM
The Princess Diaries. Some great comedy in this alongside the expected Disney emotion. Hathaway, Matarazzo, Andrews and Elizondo all with some stellar comic sensibilities here. The opening third or so is much funnier than the rest but it's all still fun.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 03, 2018, 01:14:13 PM
I've been really enjoying the work of Spanish silent film pioneer Camille de Morlhon Segundo de Chomón this last week. They feel like bootleg Méliès, which on some level they are... but while Méliès has always struck me as wanting to seduce his audience, de Chomón seems keen to perturb and confuse! If Méliès brought dreams to film then de Chomón brought nightmares - scrabby, putrid, tumble-down, authentically unhinged nightmates! You can practically smell the special effects reeking through the screen in some cases. They have an affective frisson that I've generally only found in Surrealist filmmakers - Buñuel; Borowczyk; Švankmajer. In fact the sheer destructive energy and the violence of the stop-motion in de Chomón's weirdest works really recall Švankmajer, though I don't know if the Czech Surrealist has ever excited him as an influence.

Some of you might prefer watching in silence, but I've found Elfman's soundtrack to Beetlejuice (which I re-watched recently and didn't care for as much as I remembered, though the set design/ art direction are wonderful, as is Elfman's score) effective as is the sillier orchestral Zappa.

The Panicky Picnic (1909)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw5yKcu4W00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw5yKcu4W00)

I love how unapologetically gross this is - it's like it takes place in a world in which all organic matter (including humans) is mouldy.

The Electric Hotel (1908)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzru63JBSE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCzru63JBSE)

There are some joyous stop-motion tricks here and the brushes in particular reminded me of Švankmajer (though the film is more Terry Gilliam in tone).

The Haunted Mansion (1908)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_JGZgws2gI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_JGZgws2gI)

This one is a pretty blatant Méliès rip-off, but - for me - one-ups Méliès in terms of the vividness of its imagery and the inventiveness of its special effects.

Just wanted to add my thanks for this post, I watched The Panicky Picnic last night and was impressed by just how weird it is, which led me to watching and enjoying the rest too.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 03, 2018, 01:37:30 PM
Wild Zero (1999) - Real life Japanese rock band Guitar Wolf fight against zombies in this sometimes silly sometimes stylish but always enjoyable comedy horror. Some of the zombies are appalling and the editing is occasionally choppy but otherwise it's an endearingly odd flick. 7.5/10
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 03, 2018, 05:31:28 PM
Kontroll (2003) - A Hungarian black and bleak comedy with an occasional surreal side, this is set in it's entiriety on the Hungarian Metro with our motley heroes being a crew of ticket inspectors whose daily lives are more hellish than anything Jesus ever told us about. I don't want to say too much for spoiler related reasons but it's not what I expected at all, but it is something I'm really glad I discovered. 7.8/10
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Post by: Sin Agog on February 03, 2018, 05:55:47 PM
Wild Zero (1999) - Real life Japanese rock band Guitar Wolf fight against zombies in this sometimes silly sometimes stylish but always enjoyable comedy horror. Some of the zombies are appalling and the editing is occasionally choppy but otherwise it's an endearingly odd flick. 7.5/10

Fun movie, fun band.  I saw them play once at a venue a few meters from my gaff.  During the set, they proceeded to behave like slightly parodical Rock Gods, clambering up the speakers and necking pints in one go.  Then I saw them after the gig from my window all being packed into the tiniest van I've ever seen, along with all their equipment.  Living the dream!
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 03, 2018, 06:43:29 PM
Just saw Sorcerer (1977) on Film4. This thread (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=41556.0) liked it a lot, and I'm with them. Well worth a look.

I started a new one for the 40th anniversary - https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,62717.0.html (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,62717.0.html)
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Post by: Dex Sawash on February 03, 2018, 07:36:03 PM
Mechanic; Resurrection
Looked fairly good and lots of locations but more ludicrous than your usual Statham film.
6/10 on the Statham film only scale (converts to 3.8/10 on all film scale)
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Post by: Blumf on February 03, 2018, 09:23:44 PM
I started a new one for the 40th anniversary - https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,62717.0.html (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,62717.0.html)

Ah, sorry, completely breezed past that. (you'd even posted a heads-up for the broadcast I watched)

Good thou, init.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 03, 2018, 09:35:03 PM
After someone plugged it jokingly on here I watched Class of 1999, it is dreadful and not really in a charmingly bad way, not even Pam Grier could save it.
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Post by: Mr Banlon on February 03, 2018, 09:45:15 PM
Heat 1995.

Got bored and started looking at twitter at other things while it was on. Too long and boring. Knew this would be one of those "classics" people wank on about that I don't get on with, so it's definitely my fault and I just approached it with the wrong attitude and in the wrong mood but pfft.
I've tried to watch Heat a whole bunch of times.
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Post by: Mr Banlon on February 03, 2018, 09:47:12 PM
After someone plugged it jokingly on here I watched Class of 1999, it is dreadful and not really in a charmingly bad way, not even Pam Grier could save it.
Class of 1984 is a better 'shit' film.
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Post by: SteveDave on February 03, 2018, 09:49:08 PM
After reading both My Booky Wook and My Booky Wook II, tonight I watched "Get Him To The Greek" It was alright. Every now and again Russell Brand's voice would become that of Michael Crawford.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 03, 2018, 10:21:59 PM
Good thou, init.

One of my favourite films of all time for the last 20+ years.  I've spent that long trying to raise awareness of it, and in the early 00s had Empire magazine's Ian Nathan chide me for claiming it as a masterpiece.  Ironically, since then I've become annoyed by the fact that everyone now loves it.  Same thing happened with Blade Runner and Wake In Fright.  Ho hum.

Also, Ian Nathan gave Sorcerer four stars when he reviewed the American blu ray release a couple of years ago...
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Post by: steveh on February 04, 2018, 09:00:59 AM
Kontroll (2003) - A Hungarian black and bleak comedy with an occasional surreal side

Been a while since I watched this, but I remember really enjoying it until until the final section. It successfully builds up a strange world that pulls you in but then it doesn't seem to quite know what to do when it comes to successfully integrating the different plot strands and the final denouement seemed a bit of a let down.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 04, 2018, 09:15:30 AM
I've tried to watch Heat a whole bunch of times.

No.  You've been in heat a whole bunch of times.
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Post by: Z on February 04, 2018, 03:24:36 PM
Portrait of Jason
Really uneasy watch, felt borderline abusive. A gay hustler is interviewed for several hours with the camera constantly directed at him with seemingly minimal breaks between switching reels. Very off the cuff and there's quite a lot of extremely out of focus parts in a manner that seems to at points be deliberate. It's extremely hard to tell when he's bullshitting or not throughout and... if it weren't exhausting it would've been super engrossing. He kind of comes across like an old pro wrestler in that he's been in character so long even he doesn't know what's real and what isn't.
I'd suggest giving it a try in a cinema.

Belfast Maine
Frederick Wiseman, 4.5 hours long. I've watched it in bits and pieces the last few days and not at all in order really (I'm playing the middle of it right now as I do other stuff). There's probably a pretty strong argument that this is his most fully realised piece though, it's hard to think of a single part of this whole community he's missed out on. I regret not just watching it in one go.

Stray Dog
Debra Granik does a documentary about a biker vietnam vet dude. Very PBS, didn't see the point of it at all really.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 04, 2018, 07:32:17 PM
Fun movie, fun band.  I saw them play once at a venue a few meters from my gaff.  During the set, they proceeded to behave like slightly parodical Rock Gods, clambering up the speakers and necking pints in one go.  Then I saw them after the gig from my window all being packed into the tiniest van I've ever seen, along with all their equipment.  Living the dream!

I'm ridiculously jealous of you, I'd love to see them live, even now that they're all old men.

Been a while since I watched this, but I remember really enjoying it until until the final section. It successfully builds up a strange world that pulls you in but then it doesn't seem to quite know what to do when it comes to successfully integrating the different plot strands and the final denouement seemed a bit of a let down.

I really liked the ending, the very final shot was a bit on the nose but given the bleakness beforehand it was a relief for it not to end in a depressing way.

(https://queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com/wp/docs/2015/06/kinopoisk.ru-Querelle-629350.jpg)

I watched this today, mainly so that the poster could be reposted again. It's a fascinating thing, a complex and layered piece and whilst I don't agree with everything it suggests when it comes to love and desire it makes for an interesting argument. Plus the way it's designed and lit is quite quite beautiful, and it's dark sense of humour amused on a regular basis. 8.2/10
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Post by: Calistan on February 04, 2018, 08:52:25 PM
Watched an Iceland film Hrútar or Rams yesterday and thought it was brilliant. It's about two estranged brothers who are forced to 'communicate' with one another after 40 years of silence. Grimly funny.

I'm heading to Iceland for a week next month so would appreciate any other Icelandic films you recommend.
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Post by: Z on February 04, 2018, 09:27:58 PM
Watched an Iceland film Hrútar or Rams yesterday and thought it was brilliant. It's about two estranged brothers who are forced to 'communicate' with one another after 40 years of silence. Grimly funny.

I'm heading to Iceland for a week next month so would appreciate any other Icelandic films you recommend.
There was an Icelandic sitcom a few years ago called Næturvaktin that was pretty good. By that guy who became mayor of Reykjavík after the economy went to shit.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 04, 2018, 09:33:58 PM
Blonde Fist.  Fairly rubbish - bad acting throughout - but I was mildly obsessed with Margi Clarke in the early 90s.  Fancied reliving my youth.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 05, 2018, 12:32:06 PM
Watched an Iceland film Hrútar or Rams yesterday and thought it was brilliant. It's about two estranged brothers who are forced to 'communicate' with one another after 40 years of silence. Grimly funny.

I'm heading to Iceland for a week next month so would appreciate any other Icelandic films you recommend.

Oh yeah this was a gem. Won the Cannes "Un Certain Regard" IIRC.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 06, 2018, 03:15:59 PM
I watched The Pleasure of Being Robbed, I think the protagonist was supposed to be kooky and free spirited but she just came over as an annoying entitled thief who didn't give a fuck about people she inconvenienced.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 06, 2018, 05:34:18 PM
I watched The Pleasure of Being Robbed, I think the protagonist was supposed to be kooky and free spirited but she just came over as an annoying entitled thief who didn't give a fuck about people she inconvenienced.

She should hook up with Ferris Bueller.
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Post by: CaledonianGonzo on February 06, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Watched an Iceland film Hrútar or Rams yesterday and thought it was brilliant. It's about two estranged brothers who are forced to 'communicate' with one another after 40 years of silence. Grimly funny.

I'm heading to Iceland for a week next month so would appreciate any other Icelandic films you recommend.

101 Reykjavik is the only one that springs to mind.  I don't remember much about it other than Damon Albarn doing the music.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 06, 2018, 06:33:29 PM
She should hook up with Ferris Bueller.

Now you mention it, it was like a very charmless Bueller set in New York, without the truancy subplot.
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Post by: Sin Agog on February 06, 2018, 06:46:30 PM
Watched an Iceland film Hrútar or Rams yesterday and thought it was brilliant. It's about two estranged brothers who are forced to 'communicate' with one another after 40 years of silence. Grimly funny.

I'm heading to Iceland for a week next month so would appreciate any other Icelandic films you recommend.

Bjork, before she was particularly famous, starred in a really good magical realist film about witches and the like called The Juniper Tree.  It has that rheumy Picnic at Hanging Rock/Valerie and her Week of Wonders vibe I love.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 06, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
Watched an Iceland film Hrútar or Rams yesterday and thought it was brilliant. It's about two estranged brothers who are forced to 'communicate' with one another after 40 years of silence. Grimly funny.

I'm heading to Iceland for a week next month so would appreciate any other Icelandic films you recommend.

Have you seen Noi the Albino? I remember liking that enough. The director had another film called Dark Horse which I bought on DVD about 8 years ago and is still in its cellophane wrapper on my shelf next to Hiruko The Goblin. Has anyone seen it? Is it worth unwrapping?
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 07, 2018, 12:25:00 AM
I watched The Pleasure of Being Robbed, I think the protagonist was supposed to be kooky and free spirited but she just came over as an annoying entitled thief who didn't give a fuck about people she inconvenienced.

I think it's a bit simplistic to write her off as just a quirky protagonist. There was a lot of sadness bubbling underneath, and so much of the emotion for me came from pitying her situation and condition. Have you seen their follow-up, Daddy Longlegs? That really increases the divide between how the character presents themselves and what the wider deal is. He's a schlub of a single father, a real mess, and yet he acts like a free-spirited paragon of fun parenting. Though he's irresponsible and a dick. Which only serves to add sympathy. The Safdies are very good at making you connect with flawed humans.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 08, 2018, 12:33:31 AM
The Visitor (1979) - Oddball sci-fi horror starring John Huston, Shelley Winters, Sam Peckinpah, and a young Lance Henriksen amongst others. It's such a weird piece as many parts are competently directed and ratchet up the tension, but others are ridiculously over the top or slightly nonsensical. Throw in an eight year old half alien kid who swears like a trooper, inappropriate bursts of exciting music over dull scenes, the world's greatest hawk attack and you've got yourself a great movie, even if it really shouldn't work at all. 7.8/10

It's A Beautiful Day (2012) - Hour long animation from your World of Tomorrow fella. It's a mix of very basic stick figure drawings, photographic images and film, and about love, memory and death, and is a pretty stunning film. 8.4/10

The Fox Family (2006) - Korean madness about a family of foxes who can transform in to humans, who then run a circus. They're waiting around for some super special event where if they eat human livers they'll get to become like us, and so kidnap four people, but unfortunately the cops are suspicious. It's also a musical (though there aren't enough songs), frequently very funny and quite sexy in places. 7.9/10
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 08, 2018, 01:15:00 AM

It's A Beautiful Day (2012) - Hour long animation from your World of Tomorrow fella. It's a mix of very basic stick figure drawings, photographic images and film, and about love, memory and death, and is a pretty stunning film. 8.4/10


Ah It's Such a Beautiful Day was a 10/10 for me. Blew me away. His other shorts are marvellous but this just had so much heart and life in it. Very much want to see World of Tomorrow.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 08, 2018, 02:35:31 AM
Ah It's Such a Beautiful Day was a 10/10 for me. Blew me away. His other shorts are marvellous but this just had so much heart and life in it. Very much want to see World of Tomorrow.

I'm annoying and refuse to give anything 10, and on my (ridiculously inane) scale of things 8.4 is a really high rating.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 08, 2018, 02:59:35 AM
I'm annoying and refuse to give anything 10, and on my (ridiculously inane) scale of things 8.4 is a really high rating.

Few films are worthy of a 10 but they do exist.  Heck, I'd rate This is Spinal Tap as an 11.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 08, 2018, 09:30:59 AM
all films get a 10 from me because films make me happy
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Post by: Sin Agog on February 08, 2018, 09:37:16 AM
all films get a 10 from me because films make me happy

Literally exactly the same.  I quit all those rating sites like RYM, IMDB and Goodreads because I felt like a giddy ninny giving every single thing 5 stars/10 out of 10.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 08, 2018, 10:18:58 AM
Just saw Mur Murs by Agnès Varda which was excellent, truly sensational documentary work looking at wall murals in LA. She infuses it as she does everything with a tremendous outpouring of passion for people. Some cool art and social history on display. Loved it.

I'm annoying and refuse to give anything 10, and on my (ridiculously inane) scale of things 8.4 is a really high rating.

Out of interest how do you arrive at your scores? Anyone who gets to decimals in their ratings intrigues me.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 08, 2018, 11:08:57 AM
I think it's a bit simplistic to write her off as just a quirky protagonist. There was a lot of sadness bubbling underneath, and so much of the emotion for me came from pitying her situation and condition. Have you seen their follow-up, Daddy Longlegs? That really increases the divide between how the character presents themselves and what the wider deal is. He's a schlub of a single father, a real mess, and yet he acts like a free-spirited paragon of fun parenting. Though he's irresponsible and a dick. Which only serves to add sympathy. The Safdies are very good at making you connect with flawed humans.

I didn't really think there was all that much sadness bubbling underneath. She seemed like your average disaffected 20-something who robbed to alleviate ennui.
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Post by: bgmnts on February 08, 2018, 11:16:46 AM
Watching Inside Man again. Its so good.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 08, 2018, 01:58:47 PM
Out of interest how do you arrive at your scores? Anyone who gets to decimals in their ratings intrigues me.

Well I have an annoying thing where I can't rate anything 10/10 as that would mean it's absolutely perfection, and I don't think a film exists like that, however much I love something. As for the rest, well, I guess I just compare them to other similar films and consider whether or not I enjoyed it more, and by how much. It's not an exact science, naturally, but I think there's an enormous difference between 8.0/10 and 8.4/10, and just want to show that in the rating somehow.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 08, 2018, 02:12:36 PM
Well I have an annoying thing where I can't rate anything 10/10 as that would mean it's absolutely perfection...

Mate, that's not what 10/10 means.  It simply means that within reasonable bounds, this film is as good as it gets.  The rating of 10 is there for a reason, so use it (sparingly).
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 08, 2018, 02:45:14 PM
Mate, that's not what 10/10 means.  It simply means that within reasonable bounds, this film is as good as it gets.  The rating of 10 is there for a reason, so use it (sparingly).

I know that, but you try telling my brain, it just won't listen.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 08, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
I know that, but you try telling my brain, it just won't listen.

Well smack it on the frontal lobe with some wet spaghetti then.  That'll buck its ideas up.
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Post by: Z on February 08, 2018, 07:47:04 PM
Boogie Nights (with commentary)
Seems like PTA got as many of the cast as he could to individually watch at least some of the film with him and record them doing so and edited together the best bit. Worked out pretty well, consistently fun at least.
Notes:
- Burt Reynolds seemed extremely isolated on set so it's not hard to see why he didn't feel part of the whole thing
- Mark Wahlberg was pretty much in full on Marky Mark at this stage still, seemed dumb as fuck but in a very malleable way that you can see how he's wound up sticking around
- PTA was almost certainly crushing on Melora Walters in the 90s, he seemed extra fond of her and its kinda hard to see why
- Don Cheadle and PTA seemed to get along really well, it's perhaps a bit surprising they never worked together again
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Post by: Thursday on February 08, 2018, 11:26:48 PM
Buffet Froid 1979

Absolutely insane french black comedy thriller. Starts with Gérard Depardieu trying to initiate a conversation with another man in empty train station talks of how he has nightmares about murdering someone and often thinks about how easy it would be to kill someone. Then tries to give the man his pocket knife, who refuses it, and so the knife just lays on a seat. After two talk further they suddenly notice the knife has gone. The other man get's on a train leaving Depardieu alone. Early spoiler so not a big deal but... Depardieu then later is exiting a station and finds this man has been stabbed with his pocket knife his chest and worries he was the one who did it From here things just get increasingly insane.

Talked about on the latest episode of an excellent film podcast called All Units, which I'm watching along with at the moment. Any fans?
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 08, 2018, 11:29:00 PM
haven't heard of All Units, but i'll check it out because i like Buffet Froid
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Post by: Thursday on February 09, 2018, 12:32:27 AM
Is there anything else by the director, it really scratched a satisfying itch for me.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 09, 2018, 12:41:39 AM
Check out 'Les Valseuses' and 'Préparez vos mouchoirs', they both also have the same kind of absurdist comedic energy as Buffet Froid
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 09, 2018, 01:40:37 AM
Demy's Lola, phenomenal. The intersecting coincidences were impressively touching. Infused with such a sweetness but also a tender melancholy. Simply superb.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 09, 2018, 02:15:07 AM
Demy's Lola, phenomenal. The intersecting coincidences were impressively touching. Infused with such a sweetness but also a tender melancholy. Simply superb.

yes, it's fantastic. demy is at his best when the lovely wistful melancholy is interwoven with a feeling of being really alive and open to all that life brings. that's the real artistry, seeing the beauty in both euphoria and disappointment because it's all human, it's all special.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 09, 2018, 05:17:24 AM
yes, it's fantastic. demy is at his best when the lovely wistful melancholy is interwoven with a feeling of being really alive and open to all that life brings. that's the real artistry, seeing the beauty in both euphoria and disappointment because it's all human, it's all special.

Spot on. I'm seeing Bay of Angels next week but in any case this has made me very keen to see his other work.
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Post by: Sin Agog on February 09, 2018, 06:52:03 AM
Demy's Lola, phenomenal. The intersecting coincidences were impressively touching. Infused with such a sweetness but also a tender melancholy. Simply superb.

Bizarrely, this was referenced on a podcast called 'Cum Town' yesterday.  Has it gotten a re-release or something?
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 09, 2018, 11:30:40 AM
Bizarrely, this was referenced on a podcast called 'Cum Town' yesterday.  Has it gotten a re-release or something?

No idea. I just watched it cause I'm seeing his second film next week and I wanted to see his first one beforehand.
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Post by: Sin Agog on February 09, 2018, 12:38:54 PM
Yeah, apparently it's recently been put back on in a few arthouses stateside.

God, imagine if every audience in the world were willing to watch re-releases of gems like that, and not just a handful of hip burroughs.  I'd never leave the cinema.

Anyways, started off the day in sterling style with Max Ophuls' La Ronde.
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Post by: bgmnts on February 09, 2018, 04:23:39 PM
Just got round to watching Gone Baby Gone. Very good film. Ended perfectly.


Finally getting round to The Manchurian Candidate. I'm half hour in. The premise is incredible i love it.
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Post by: bgmnts on February 09, 2018, 08:44:24 PM
Candidate didn't disappoint.  9/10

Keanu Reeves' accent/performance in Dracula is absolutely incredible.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 10, 2018, 12:46:29 AM
Snowy Bing Bongs Across the North Star Combat Zone. 40 minutes of surreal sketch dance absurdity. I loved this and thought it was really really funny and strange.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 10, 2018, 03:16:03 PM
Snowy Bing Bongs Across the North Star Combat Zone. 40 minutes of surreal sketch dance absurdity. I loved this and thought it was really really funny and strange.

Thanks for that, just watched it now and enjoyed it a great deal. For anyone interested, it's (legally) up on vimeo in full: https://vimeo.com/244683457
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 10, 2018, 05:12:30 PM
Let each one go where he may (Ben Russell)
Stunning really
Steadicam4u film

Mala the Magnificent
Problematic, natch, but I got a lot out of this
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Post by: Z on February 10, 2018, 06:15:47 PM
Hope and Glory
This was a lot more sincerely sweet than I expected to be honest. Swayed away from patriotic bullshit and didn't stray too far into whimsy either. Felt far more like it was based on real experiences than most of the films I imagine it typically gets lumped in with do.
Pleasantly surprised on the whole!

Wise Blood
The mix of John Huston and Flannery O'Connor both made far more sense and felt way more mismatched than I had expected.
Just too wacky, I got tired of it. Can imagine other people absolutely loving the mix though.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 10, 2018, 06:47:17 PM
A lot of people seem to think that Hope and Glory is just another heritage piece
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Post by: Blumf on February 10, 2018, 07:26:46 PM
Whilst on a William Friedkin kick (well saw, Sorcerer), watched To Live and Die in L.A.

Quintessentially 80s whilst managing to have it's own class. Plus you get to see William Petersen's nudger.

"Why are you chasing me?"
"Why you running?"
"'Cause you're chasing me, man!"
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Post by: Z on February 10, 2018, 08:41:00 PM
It's somewhere between that and a Terence Davies film (stylistically nowhere near as interesting, mind). Maybe what Davies would've made if he hadn't had what seems to have been an utterly miserable childhood.


Friedkin is weird how effectively he's adapted with the times. Both Killer Joe and Bug feel like films that were made by a young upstart
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Post by: Dex Sawash on February 10, 2018, 09:53:48 PM
Bouyed by recent CaB assertions that Waterworld was ok, gave it a go. Turned it off in 20 minutes. Score was terrible too.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 10, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
It's somewhere between that and a Terence Davies film (stylistically nowhere near as interesting, mind). Maybe what Davies would've made if he hadn't had what seems to have been an utterly miserable childhood.

should mention that Humphrey Jennings was an influence on both Davies and Boorman so maybe there's something in that
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on February 11, 2018, 12:52:57 AM
French Connection. I don't really need to say anything else.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 11, 2018, 01:23:45 AM
French Connection. I don't really need to say anything else.
watch narc (2003) next
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 11, 2018, 02:16:12 AM
Excalibur. A bit overly epic - some aspects to enjoy but mainly kind of a bloated mess.

The Beaches of Agnès. Such a deeply personal and resonant film, I'm still emotionally processing this. Her passion and singular character, as well as the more heartfelt parts (like the ones about Jacques Demy) filled me right up. Gee golly gosh.

Where Is Parsifal?. I still have no idea what this film is. It's a comedy, I guess that's a start. There's such an eclectic cast - Tony Curtis, Orson Welles, Donald Pleasance - and I think the plot involves an inventor trying to sell an invention - but it's so tonally all over the place and nothing makes sense. I am baffled, truly baffled. It's amusing, but very, very confusing.


Thanks for that, just watched it now and enjoyed it a great deal. For anyone interested, it's (legally) up on vimeo in full: https://vimeo.com/244683457

I was actually going to specifically message you to suggest it. It seemed very SMBH. It's on YouTube as well if anyone dislikes vimeo for whatever reason. Glad you liked it!
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Post by: Gregory Torso on February 11, 2018, 11:50:33 AM
Last night we watched Wild Tales, which was bloody great. It's a Spanish/Argentine collection of six stories dealing with revenge in different ways. It was really funny in parts, and just frustrating in others (meaning the characters actions & outcomes; not the film itself). Highly recommend it. I especially enjoyed the road rage one and the wedding one.
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Post by: Blumf on February 11, 2018, 12:41:50 PM
Excalibur. A bit overly epic - some aspects to enjoy but mainly kind of a bloated mess.

You'd think that Monty Python and the Holy Grail was a piss take of it, but nope, half a decade before that.

I do like it though. Wish there were more films that mined British mythology (not just the Arthurian legend) in a magical way and not overblown shit like that Guy Richie mess. I think A Field in England has been the closest recently, if not exactly the right period.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 11, 2018, 12:43:54 PM
French Connection. I don't really need to say anything else.

If you've not already seen it, the French The Connection (La French) is a an enjoyable one sort of touching on the same thing from the French side.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 11, 2018, 06:18:47 PM
I was actually going to specifically message you to suggest it. It seemed very SMBH. It's on YouTube as well if anyone dislikes vimeo for whatever reason. Glad you liked it!

Heh, I like the fact that you saw farting semi-naked women and thought of me! ;)
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Post by: Z on February 11, 2018, 06:30:37 PM
Solaris (2002)
Tbh, I just watched this because I want to watch it with the commentary track (Soderbergh and Cameron debating shit). It wasn't great but I was surprised by how much more modern it felt than I expected. Everything about it feels more in line with things like Upstream Color (which I googled and, yes, Carruth seems to be a huge fan) and Arrival than anything that was going on in the early 00s.
I don't totally get why it didn't work for me to be honest. It might just be that the editing comes across as kind of typical now, might just be a lack of DP flair.


Dogfight
Actually makes pretty good use of what is now an extremely tired setting. A lot more an interesting artefact than anything else, Lili Taylor is pretty much playing prime Lili Taylor and between her performance and the direction, I imagine this character was pretty distinct for the time.

In fact, I'd say there's probably a lot that could be written about the kind of characters Lili Taylor played in that time period in terms of how they adhered to and attempted to move on from standard female roles of the period. There's something about her face that allows rather thinly written characters to look like they've a lot more going on.


Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
Very political in a way that's really quite dated and ending with a Kafka quote in the credits is cringeworthy as all hell.


Documentary about that Corman Fantastic Four Film, I mean, who really cares what the actual name is
Very meh, there's very little to add about this one that isn't in the wikipedia article beyond "hey, some of those people you laugh at in the film are actually nice people"


The Intruder
William Shatner says the N word a lot
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 11, 2018, 06:47:20 PM
The Intruder
William Shatner says the N word a lot

I'm downloading this as we speak.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 11, 2018, 07:03:38 PM
Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
Very political in a way that's really quite dated and ending with a Kafka quote in the credits is cringeworthy as all hell.
dated isn't really a concept that anybody should subscribe to really
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Post by: Z on February 11, 2018, 07:13:22 PM
dated isn't really a concept that anybody should subscribe to really
Unsure what you mean, unless it's just that I say really a lot? The whole premise was tired, done by things before and done relentlessly by things since, often in much better and more expansive ways. I'm sure I'd have thought it was a lot less crap in 1970.

Maybe the length was the biggest issue, it's nearly two hours long and seems to be aiming for a high tension piece but it's got so little going on plot wise.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 11, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
The Strange Colour Of Your Body's Tears (2013) - A man returns home from a business trip to find his wife missing, and whilst he searches for her people tell him seemingly unrelated stories. It's beautifully shot with interesting sound design, but it's a deliberately obtuse film wth misleading dream sequences that can confuse, and some might argue that it's a case of style over substance. And the answer? Dunno. Maybe. Not sure. Ask me again in two weeks. 7.7/10
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Post by: SteveDave on February 12, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
The Silent Partner Elliot Gould plays Elliot Gould who is a bank clerk who discovers that a mall Santa (played by Christopher Plummer looking like Michael Fassbender's dad) is planning to rob his bank.

I've not seen the end yet but it's tense as fuck in places and Plummer is terrifying.

EDIT- Also features a very young John Candy.
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Post by: lebowskibukowski on February 12, 2018, 11:55:09 AM
Last night we watched Wild Tales, which was bloody great. It's a Spanish/Argentine collection of six stories dealing with revenge in different ways. It was really funny in parts, and just frustrating in others (meaning the characters actions & outcomes; not the film itself). Highly recommend it. I especially enjoyed the road rage one and the wedding one.

I watched this a couple of months ago, couldn't agree more. Well worth a watch
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 12, 2018, 12:21:40 PM
The Conformist. Another big gap in my watching taken care of. This was pretty sensational. Brooding and heavy but some bizarre acerbic moments of humour. Stunningly shot and acted and I loved the score. The themes of power and violence are I think explored better in the book but this was still a tremendous experience.
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on February 12, 2018, 02:25:15 PM
Mrs Syntax had never seen Cloverfield so I put it on for her. I had her convinced for the first 15 minutes or so of the film that we were watching a character based talky independent film of the type I make her sit through and that I was joking about the monster and the statue of liberty head (I'd previously mentioned these because I was convinced she'd seen it before and was trying to remind her). I'm such a card.
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Post by: Twit 2 on February 13, 2018, 09:32:33 AM
The Room
The Disaster Artist

Yeah, quite fun. Watched them back to back with a couple of people. They were howling at all the bad bits, I chuckled occasionally. Having not seen The Room before and knowing only the bare bones, I can see that the Disaster Artist is not really the story of that film, more a tidy feel-good version. I thought it was pretty good (Franco, in particular nailed it) but it didn’t really help me understand anything about the film/Wiseau. I should just read the book I suppose.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 13, 2018, 12:14:03 PM
Spider Baby. Wacky stuff. Loved the comedy of it and the genuine messed-upedness of it. Lon Chaney Jr bringing mega pathos to this. It's essentially a house with three mentally regressive children (late teens?) doing strange and awful things. Creepy and charming.

The Fan (the 1982 German one). Very slow but the ending goes to a place I was not expecting and basically saves an otherwise kind of passable tale of fan obsession.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 13, 2018, 08:55:20 PM
Spider Baby.  Wacky stuff. Loved the comedy of it and the genuine messed-upedness of it. Lon Chaney Jr bringing mega pathos to this. It's essentially a house with three mentally regressive children (late teens?) doing strange and awful things. Creepy and charming.

Father Dougal is intrigued. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AB7IDw3PNI)
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Post by: Dex Sawash on February 14, 2018, 03:15:26 AM
Jane Got a Gun (2016) with Natalie Portman and the giant craterface fbi guy from The Amerikans.
All around bad. Tons of flashbacks that would have probably worked as well linearly.
Doesn't pause on any shot for more than a few seconds to even allow the vast landscape a chance to have a role. Someone walks across a corral for 30 seconds and it is shown in 5 shots. Out of my depth on tecnnical stuff like this, maybe it was clever and original to make this look like Crank. I laughed a lot. At least it was only 90ish minutes.
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 14, 2018, 03:51:17 AM
Jane Got a Gun (2016) with Natalie Portman and the giant craterface fbi guy from The Amerikans.

Not the giant craterface guy?  Giant craterface guy is my favourite actor!  His giant craterface is so expressive, that he can bring you to empathetic tears, with no more than a slight twitch of a crater.

Did you know, Giant craterface's grandfather was killed in an on set accident, during the filming of 1902's A Trip to the Moon.  WARNING: This link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeLjzlFgiEE) contains actual footage of his accidental death.  He was the Brandon Lee of his time.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 14, 2018, 10:53:28 AM
(https://queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com/wp/docs/2015/06/kinopoisk.ru-Querelle-629350.jpg)

rewatched this. still great
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 14, 2018, 11:15:52 AM
rewatched this. still great

Good man, we were missing that poster for the entirety of the last page.  For shame, people.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 14, 2018, 11:47:02 AM
Bay of Angels. Affecting and exciting look at gambling addiction made with a real lightness that disguises the pain underneath. I'm really getting into Demy based on this and Lola. I'm gonna try to watch his next two next.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 14, 2018, 11:51:26 AM
Bay of Angels. Affecting and exciting look at gambling addiction made with a real lightness that disguises the pain underneath. I'm really getting into Demy based on this and Lola. I'm gonna try to watch his next two next.

Demy in B&W is one thing, but when you get to the films where Demy gets to use colour photography, holy moly.

(Also, Bay of Angels has one of the best openings of any film ever. Love that piano theme.)
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 14, 2018, 11:55:37 AM
Demy in B&W is one thing, but when you get to the films where Demy gets to use colour photography, holy moly.

(Also, Bay of Angels has one of the best openings of any film ever. Love that piano theme.)

Yes! The opening floored me. I'm really looking forward to his colour stuff.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on February 15, 2018, 04:04:42 AM
Shane (1953) Western sex romp. Young Joey explores the strange new feelings he has for a handsome drifter with a gun. Torn between a loyalty to his own father and a desire to have his first awkward fumbles listening while Sex God Shane rogers his mother silly in the next room. Steady Joe Sr (cuck) just wants to see his family happy whatever it takes (anal, ok).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dex Sawash on February 15, 2018, 04:05:45 AM
Not the giant craterface guy?  Giant craterface guy is my favourite actor!  His giant craterface is so expressive, that he can bring you to empathetic tears, with no more than a slight twitch of a crater.

Did you know, Giant craterface's grandfather was killed in an on set accident, during the filming of 1902's A Trip to the Moon.  WARNING: This link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeLjzlFgiEE) contains actual footage of his accidental death.  He was the Brandon Lee of his time.

Real faces of death stuff there
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 15, 2018, 05:13:22 AM
Shane (1953) Western sex romp. Young Joey explores the strange new feelings he has for a handsome drifter with a gun. Torn between a loyalty to his own father and a desire to have his first awkward fumbles listening while Sex God Shane rogers his mother silly in the next room. Steady Joe Sr (cuck) just wants to see his family happy whatever it takes (anal, ok).

Every Bill Hicks fan watched this film only to see no evidence of Jack Palance's character ever having that interaction with Shane.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 15, 2018, 10:20:25 PM
High Tide (1987). Beautiful film. Simple enough story but the characterisation is subtly and gracefully done and the emotion really builds up towards the end.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on February 16, 2018, 01:13:07 PM
Every Bill Hicks fan watched this film only to see no evidence of Jack Palance's character ever having that interaction with Shane.

I have now watched my first Bill Hicks clip. He did get it wrong. I'm sure I've seen gunslinger tosses a gun to a rube thing before in some film (probably 5 films)
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 17, 2018, 03:14:44 AM
The Umbrellas of Cherbourg which was many kinds of incredible. Once I grew accustomed to the singing delivery (which didn't take long) it was wholly engrossing and wonderful and the way it chronicled the various stages of the relationship was impressive.
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Post by: Thursday on February 18, 2018, 10:12:12 PM
Today in my efforts to watch a lot more films, I watched Jeanne Dielman (Chantal Akerman) and Kikujiro (Takeshi Kitano) No particular reason for that pairing they were just things I wanted to see

Not quite sure I can make up mind with the 2 Akerman films, I've seen. They manage to be watchable despite nothing much happening in them. Dielman is definitely an interesting, powerful work, but I'm not sure what I can say I've got from the experience. Definitely glad I watched it though.

And Kikujiro was a delightful thing. A premise that could make for an awful sentimental film, but it avoids that and is genuinely funny. My favourite I've seen by Takeshi so far.
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Post by: Z on February 18, 2018, 10:38:13 PM
Today in my efforts to watch a lot more films, I watched Jeanne Dielman (Chantal Akerman) and Kikujiro (Takeshi Kitano) No particular reason for that pairing they were just things I wanted to see

Not quite sure I can make up mind with the 2 Akerman films, I've seen. They manage to be watchable despite nothing much happening in them. Dielman is definitely an interesting, powerful work, but I'm not sure what I can say I've got from the experience. Definitely glad I watched it though.

And Kikujiro was a delightful thing. A premise that could make for an awful sentimental film, but it avoids that and is genuinely funny. My favourite I've seen by Takeshi so far.
Dielman is such a wonderfully structured piece, it's quite nicely divided into smaller chunks and has a clear looming deadline. There's also some parts of her going up and down the house that are edited relatively manically too, I think.

* the weekend inevitably breaking up the structure of things (iirc the sons friend was going to be visiting too?), which it never actually gets to
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 19, 2018, 08:24:55 AM
The Young Girls of Rochefort was an absolute triumph. The colours, the music and dance, the almost farcical level of coincidence and paths. Probably also the most joyful film to also feature an axe murder subplot. I loved this to bits and it got me in a right state by the end cheering the characters on.
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Post by: phantom_power on February 19, 2018, 08:33:57 AM
Sing Street - A lovely film about a boy starting a band in mid-80s Ireland. From the fella who did Once. Some great original songs that seem both plausible for a 15 year old to write and still catchy. Not sure about the ending
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 19, 2018, 01:11:49 PM
Pacific Rim, a lot of fun in parts. Definitely a lot of awe in this but there was a lot of less enthralling bits to sit through. Did not have its tone very consistent at all and some very loose threads going on. But I did enjoy it.
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Post by: phantom_power on February 19, 2018, 02:18:51 PM
I find the Queer as Anarchy bloke a very unlikable protagonist, which is OK when he playing a biker scumbag but not when he is being an action hero
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Post by: Shameless Custard on February 20, 2018, 12:20:06 AM
Welcome To The Dollhouse (1995)

What a little cracker this film is. A dark, downbeat comedy with some brilliantly funny moments. Ace dialogue, excellent performances.

I also really like Todd Solondz's follow up to this, Happiness, so now I need to seek out his other work!
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 20, 2018, 01:02:03 AM
Just watched Paul Schafer's Cat People. Good cast, decent soundtrack by Giorgio Moroder, subject matter possibly ripe for the problematic thread.
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Post by: bgmnts on February 20, 2018, 01:27:40 AM
Rent.

Musical numbers are mostly great, some of the characters are abysmal. 7/10
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Post by: greenman on February 20, 2018, 01:32:41 AM
Watched Two Days, One Night about that length of time ago, very effective look at depression/exploitive workplace politics although I confess I was glade it wasn't longer than 90 mins given how heavy going it was.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 20, 2018, 02:45:58 AM
Welcome To The Dollhouse (1995)

What a little cracker this film is. A dark, downbeat comedy with some brilliantly funny moments. Ace dialogue, excellent performances.


I found this so tragic while also incredibly funny. But also very tragic!
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Post by: SteveDave on February 20, 2018, 10:54:08 AM
The War Of The Roses

I thought I'd seen this in the early 90s but all I could remember were the scenes from the trailer (Her with a rain soaked blouse, him pissing on the fish, her in her big van driving over his little car, her throwing a plate at him, him saying "I have more square footage" to Danny DeVito) which I must've seen several hundred times whilst watching Sky Movies before school every morning from 1990-1994. In the time when they didn't have enough films to show them 24 hours a day.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on February 20, 2018, 01:22:30 PM
I found this so tragic while also incredibly funny. But also very tragic!

It's really quite something, isn't it! Constantly surprising. Loved it

Talking of love...

Thanks you you lot, I finally got round to seeing Wild Tales (2014).

Really exciting, entertaining, and fun. Brilliant.

The road rage segment!
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Post by: Z on February 20, 2018, 08:24:09 PM
Welcome To The Dollhouse (1995)

What a little cracker this film is. A dark, downbeat comedy with some brilliantly funny moments. Ace dialogue, excellent performances.

I also really like Todd Solondz's follow up to this, Happiness, so now I need to seek out his other work!
Dark Horse was a really welcome return to form after a whole bunch of duds imo. His style shifts way more heavily down the Happiness direction, imo mostly for the negative. Welcome to the Dollhouse is still best imo
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Post by: gout_pony on February 20, 2018, 09:26:03 PM
Just watched Paul Schafer's Cat People. Good cast, decent soundtrack by Giorgio Moroder, subject matter possibly ripe for the problematic thread.

Personally I much prefer the original - mostly because it's quieter and works more via implication, I think. That said, I do like the Moroder soundtrack.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 20, 2018, 09:44:10 PM
I'll keep an eye out for it, I do like films from that era. This was expiring on Mubi so I went for it.

They had the excellent Blue Collar on there as well but I'd seen that quite recently.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 21, 2018, 12:26:18 AM
Saw it almost 15 years ago (so was probably about 16/17), but as it was falling off Mubi I rewatched Man Bites Dog, it's as bleak as I remembered, but much funnier in a grim sort of way. Another one for the 'problematic' thread I guess, he's a bit of a xenophobe and misogynist like.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 21, 2018, 11:44:19 PM
Eva. Joseph Losey directs Jeanne Moreau and Stanley Baker in a 1962 European noir about a man who falls obsessively in love with an escort. Makes a lot of changes to the book but the essence is more or less there. It was pretty good. Foggy Venice makes for a moody setting.

The Adolescent. Directed by Jeanne Moreau. Rather sweet portrait of a girl's summer holiday in the country in 1939. Bucolic coming-of-age type stuff. Very good.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 22, 2018, 11:07:25 PM
Willie 1er. Strange French indie film about a middle-aged misfit who flocks the familial nest after his twin brother died. It was good.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 22, 2018, 11:36:25 PM
Sally Potter's Rage which I really got into. It's an hour and a half of people talking into a camera slowly unveiling the inner goings on of a fashion show over a week, including a murder investigation. Great cast, including Steve Buscemi, Dianne Wiest, Jude Law, Eddie Izzard, Riz Ahmed and Judi Dench. May not quite be some people's cup of tea due to the possibly repetitive nature of the camera setup but it drew me in.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 22, 2018, 11:40:02 PM
For a second I thought you may have meant this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(1999_film)

I really should rewatch it.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 22, 2018, 11:43:45 PM
For a second I thought you may have meant this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rage_(1999_film)
Ha, no. Though when I was looking up this Rage I did find a George C. Scott film of the same name from 1972 which I now quite want to watch.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 23, 2018, 01:13:15 PM
Saw the original 1956 Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Felt a bit rushed in the sense that it didn't give quite enough time for the panic to set in and as such some of the middle was kind of clunky and lost some of the suspense of the book. But overall this was rather good. Created a nice amount of paranoia. The scene on the highway at the end in particular was excellent.
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Post by: Large Noise on February 23, 2018, 05:55:21 PM
Dog Day Afternoon

I'm not really a Pacino fan. He's good in The Godfather, obviously, but Scarface, Carlito's Way, and Heat all left me a little bit underwhelmed. Dog Day Afternoon is brilliant, though, and so's his performance.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on February 23, 2018, 06:33:22 PM
Whiny 70's Pacino > Shouty 90's Pacino
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 23, 2018, 09:41:57 PM
I just saw Working Girl in an abandoned office block. I enjoyed it in spite of the horrid '80s glamorisation of neoliberalism and 'business',unfortunately we now know one Tess wouldn't fix the problem.

Still funny how Baldwin went from playing a sleazy cretin to the male version of Sigourney Weaver's role in most of his films only to turn out to be a sleazy cretin.
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Post by: Z on February 24, 2018, 10:29:46 AM
The Passionate Friends
PTA has seen this film and he wants everyone to know. Not really all that like Phantom Thread but probably the film he was thinking of when he came up with it, quite a bit of this film for me was "hey, Phantom Thread featured a place like that!" but the actual reasons for why seemed to be really shallow referencing.
It's a David Lean film, so I thought it was a bag of shite.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 24, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
You don’t like The Dean?
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 24, 2018, 05:00:17 PM
The Jerk (1979) - Deeply silly and inventive throughout, whilst the odd joke hasn't aged well there's some great set pieces and Martin's performance makes it a classic. 8.0 / 10

Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid (1982) - Another Steve Martin film directed by Carl Reiner, the first 15 minutes are a bit slow and overall it's a overly reliant on it's central concept, but it did make me smile a great deal and laugh out loud a good few times. 7.3/10
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 24, 2018, 05:43:18 PM
For some reason the line 'I make a pretty good living selling shit like this' tickles me more than it should.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on February 24, 2018, 06:22:14 PM
Body Heat (1981)

Kathleen Turner meets William Hurt, and they start having all the sex. All of it.
Smitten, they hatch a plot to off her rich husband and make off with his money

This was Lawrence Kasdan's homage to smoky 40's noir, and although it's set in the 80's, it appears to be aiming for another time entirely.

Both Turner and Hurt (not Hooch) are good, and even muster up some fizzing chemistry. There's some neat twists n turns, and it wraps up pretty nicely

Empire magazine recently described this as a masterpiece, and although I wouldn't go that far, I would agree it's a very well done and entertaining watch

4 carrots
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 24, 2018, 07:12:15 PM
It's a good Neo Noir that. I'd place it not far below The Last Seduction.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 24, 2018, 11:27:07 PM
I just watched submergence. It was ok, but easily the worst Wenders film I've seen. It just seemed a bit flat for a Wenders film really. A terrorist threat ffs.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 24, 2018, 11:38:01 PM
what time is it there (2001)

if this was just the Tati scenes it would be perfect (for me)
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Post by: gout_pony on February 25, 2018, 12:53:25 AM
Just watched Švankmajer's newest, which I have been given access to due to Kickstarter backing. Needs some time to percolate I feel - at the moment I am deeply unsure. Insect is one of his demystifying anti-fable like Faust, but the meta elements of Insect are even more deeply integrated into the film - there isn't any clean distinction between fiction and non-fiction or reality and fantasy here. It struck me as being as deeply pessimistic as Lunacy but a mite more palatable. (Does anyone really love Lunacy?) It reminded me of this Thomas Ligotti quote from Conspiracy Against the Human Race:

Quote
Everything is MALIGNANTLY USELESS except as some species of potato masher
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Post by: bgmnts on February 25, 2018, 01:02:27 AM
Whiny 70's Pacino > Shouty 90's Pacino

He's got a hell of a shout on him, mind. Thinking of Godfather 2 specifically:

"Keep them alive. ROCCO ALIVE!!"

"CANT YOU GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER ANY MORE! WAS IT A BOY!?"

"IN MY HOME!! IN MY BEDROOM WHERE MY WIFE SLEEPS"


Etc.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 25, 2018, 01:26:16 AM
Just watched Švankmajer's newest, which I have been given access to due to Kickstarter backing. Needs some time to percolate I feel - at the moment I am deeply unsure. Insect is one of his demystifying anti-fable like Faust, but the meta elements of Insect are even more deeply integrated into the film - there isn't any clean distinction between fiction and non-fiction or reality and fantasy here. It struck me as being as deeply pessimistic as Lunacy but a mite more palatable. (Does anyone really love Lunacy?) It reminded me of this Thomas Ligotti quote from Conspiracy Against the Human Race:

I am so looking forward to this.
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Post by: Large Noise on February 25, 2018, 07:46:29 AM
Lost in Translation

Quite enjoyed this but there are things that bothered me about it. It gets a bit too close to rich westerners laughing at the weird Japanesers and being rude to waitstaff. Very nice to look at and I actually did care about their relationship and what was going to happen at the end, though. Didn't think 'Just Like Honey' by The Jesus and Mary Chain quite fit at the end.
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Post by: icehaven on February 25, 2018, 12:02:28 PM
I'm just watching Little Man Tate (1991) having previously only seen it from about halfway through probably sometime in the mid-late 90s. I remember just not getting it at all, not understanding why anyone in it was behaving the way they were, thinking nothing anyone said or did made any sense, despite the fact I'd have been about 14-17 so perfectly able to understand it. But it's just a very normal film with a linear narrative and standard characterisation. I've no idea why I thought it was some surreal experimental thing.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 25, 2018, 12:25:53 PM
Inn of the Damned. Australian film blending western, horror and some comedy. Dame Judith Anderson in fine form as a deranged innkeeper. Not bad. Has a pretty cool murder contraption that uses a bed and pulley system that squashes people who sleep in it.

Faceless. My first Jesús Franco film. It has some terrific moments (face grafts! needle in the eye!) but it's very 80s sleaze and Chris Mitchum is not very good. Apparently something like Franco's third Eyes Without a Face ripoff? I've been told it's not the best Franco to have started with, but that's how it goes. My friend lent me Succubus so that'll be happening next.

Female Prisoner Scorpion: Beast Stable. Third instalment in this series about a dangerous female prisoner, this time on the run from the police. It's an altogether more wistful and ponderous entry though not without its fucked moments. I felt kind of a European influence on this one.
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Post by: icehaven on February 25, 2018, 01:12:27 PM
Lost in Translation

Didn't think 'Just Like Honey' by The Jesus and Mary Chain quite fit at the end.

While the score itself is good, I don't think any of the pre-existing music choices fit particularly well. Sofia Coppola is married to the singer in Phoenix (who coincidentally also feature on the OST) and I reckon she just let him pick a few of his fave tunes and shoehorned them in.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on February 25, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
Faceless. My first Jesús Franco film. It has some terrific moments (face grafts! needle in the eye!) but it's very 80s sleaze and Chris Mitchum is not very good. Apparently something like Franco's third Eyes Without a Face ripoff? I've been told it's not the best Franco to have started with, but that's how it goes. My friend lent me Succubus so that'll be happening next.
I love "Virgin Among The Living Dead", like, seriously think it's a real proper brilliant work of cinema, so would recommend that next. Please don't be too mean to it.

Last night I saw "Neon Maniacs" which is sort of like if Steven Spielberg did a gross 80s horror, but then got bored and couldn't be bothered to do an ending.
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Post by: Large Noise on February 25, 2018, 02:19:20 PM
While the score itself is good, I don't think any of the pre-existing music choices fit particularly well. Sofia Coppola is married to the singer in Phoenix (who coincidentally also feature on the OST) and I reckon she just let him pick a few of his fave tunes and shoehorned them in.
Yeah, it really seemed like someone just shoehorning in a song they like. Kind of took me out of the moment when it came on.
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Post by: bgmnts on February 25, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
Hellboy - 7/10

Pretty fun, David Hyde Pearce in a comic book film was a laugh. del Torro seems to make everything look really stylish and cool.

The Revenant - 4/10

So long and boring. A few gorgeous shots of terrain but that's it. DiCaprio's character is just John McClane, he gets the shit kicked out of him and that's his character development. The bear fight was a laugh though.
Also, I like Tom Hardy but what's with the stupid grunt raspy voice thing he does in a lot of his films?
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 25, 2018, 06:49:25 PM
Pennies From Heaven (1981) - Horrendously misjudged Steve Martin musical comedy about a rapey man. 1.3/10. Fine, fine, I'll take it seriously then, and as you might expect from a screenplay by Dennis Potter this is darkly bleak stuff. Bernadette Peters turns up once again but as ever that's only to the film's benefit, whilst Martin's great when it comes to miming and dancing but I'm not quite sure about his more dramatic moments, and it's an uneven performance compared to the rest. It's fortunately only a minor issue and more than made up for by the impressively inventive song and dance sequences, 90% of which are incredibly fun stuff. Christopher Walken's especially sexy, and it really is a feast for the eyes, as lazy critics used to say. 8.4/10
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 25, 2018, 06:54:27 PM
i have the lp of the soundtrack of the steve martin pennies from heaven never seen it though bet its alright
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 26, 2018, 09:21:35 AM
Watching the sequel, caused me to revisit the original Jumanji.  It's a fun flick but kind of disposable.  Still, it's a rather sweet film.

By the by, there's no fucking way that the jungle presented in the sequel is the same jungle, into which Alan Parish was exiled.  Not unless Mr. Parish was an A-class bullshitter.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on February 26, 2018, 11:01:54 AM
Isn't it a remake, rather than sequel?
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 26, 2018, 11:07:04 AM
Isn't it a remake, rather than sequel?

No, it's a sequel.  The boardgame transforms into a videogame, to better appeal to a new generation and the characters in the movie come across Alan Parish's jungle hideout.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on February 26, 2018, 11:12:37 AM
Fair dues. Not seen it yet. Want to, as Karen Gillan's legs are in it
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Post by: St_Eddie on February 26, 2018, 11:21:20 AM
...Karen Gillan's legs are in it

HOLLYWOOD TRIVIA: Karen Gillan's legs have their own agent.
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Post by: zomgmouse on February 26, 2018, 12:13:12 PM
I love "Virgin Among The Living Dead", like, seriously think it's a real proper brilliant work of cinema, so would recommend that next. Please don't be too mean to it.

Thanks, I'll check that one out! I've got a few of his films on my list but not that one I don't think.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 27, 2018, 12:47:48 PM
Gettysburg - previously avoided it due to Gods and Generals being a massive piece of propaganda for bringing back the rights of Dixie (as well as being generally dreadfully acted and loads of really bad dialogue).  A bit more even-handed than Gods and not quite as bad (and, as with Gods, Jeff Daniels is by far the best thing about it), but it still never escapes its original made-for-TV vibe.  And the fucking soundtrack - what the hell were they on?  "Let's stick in some synthesizers!" "YES PLEASE!"  Pricks.  2/5.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 27, 2018, 08:51:26 PM
i have the lp of the soundtrack of the steve martin pennies from heaven never seen it though bet its alright

It is. And I'll cut you up if you don't watch it soon. Cut you up real good.

The Man With Two Brains (1983) - The silliest of the four Steve Martin films I've watched recently, the first half of this is packed with an impressive amount of daft gags but the second half slows down a bit unfortunately. It's still great, don't get me wrong, but not quite the absolute classic it could have been if they'd maintained the hit rate. 7.4/10

I never intended to go on a Martin-marathon but now I fear I can't stop. And it can only be two weeks or so before I hit the "Cheaper By The Dozen" era.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 27, 2018, 09:33:04 PM
I think Planes, Trains and Automobiles is my favourite daft Steve Martin film.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on February 27, 2018, 10:31:54 PM
did steve martin die or something?
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on February 27, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
did steve martin die or something?

only his career
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Post by: Dr Rock on February 28, 2018, 01:50:03 AM
It is. And I'll cut you up if you don't watch it soon. Cut you up real good.

The Man With Two Brains (1983) - The silliest of the four Steve Martin films I've watched recently, the first half of this is packed with an impressive amount of daft gags but the second half slows down a bit unfortunately. It's still great, don't get me wrong, but not quite the absolute classic it could have been if they'd maintained the hit rate. 7.4/10

I never intended to go on a Martin-marathon but now I fear I can't stop. And it can only be two weeks or so before I hit the "Cheaper By The Dozen" era.

Stop at Roxanne. Then ff to Bowfinger. I wish I'd never seen or was are of any of the others.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on February 28, 2018, 10:54:52 AM
Stop at Roxanne. Then ff to Bowfinger. I wish I'd never seen or was are of any of the others.

But then I'd miss out Dirty Rotten Scoundrels and Planes, Trains & Automobiles, and I don't want to do that. Once I get passed LA Story I probably will skip most of his nineties work though.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 28, 2018, 12:16:06 PM
Once I get passed LA Story I probably will skip most of his nineties work though.

I LOVE LA Story.  Love it.

Don't skip The Spanish Prisoner.  Not a comedy, obviously, but a cracking little film.

Leap of Faith and A Simple Twist of Fate are both okay, but more drama than comedy.  The latter also verges more into family/kids film territory.

Sgt. Bilko is nowhere near as bad as you expect it to be.

Mixed Nuts is a bit of a guilty pleasure.  Emphasis on guilty.

I remember enjoying Novocaine when I saw it at the cinema, but I've not seen it since then, so that's 17 years ago and I remember very very little about it.

He's good in Shopgirl, but I thought the film itself was otherwise very mediocre.  Ditto It's Complicated.

Love the Coopers isn't too bad, but it's more of an ensemble film.  And it's frequently schmaltzy and over earnest.

I quite like The Big Year, but that also requires not minding Jack Black and Owen Wilson both doing their usual schtick.  That's going overboard for most.


So his latter career isn't quite the massive wash-out that most people think it is.
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Post by: neveragain on February 28, 2018, 01:47:50 PM
Bowfinger is wonderful.

I just watched Wakefield last night. A recent film with Bryan Cranston that I hadn't heard about. Thought it was splendid. Basically a monologue from a man who has a breakdown and hides in the attic for a year, spying on his family. Good mix of the dark and the humorous.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on February 28, 2018, 01:53:30 PM
Bowfinger is wonderful.

"Good seats.  Good seats." (nods reassuringly)
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 01, 2018, 01:03:33 AM
In Bed With Victoria, quality French film about a respected shark of a lawyer (bit like Josephine in Spiral, but with a messy personal life) whose life is falling apart at the seams, quite daft and surreal in a typically French way. Enjoyed it.
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Post by: zomgmouse on March 01, 2018, 05:35:59 AM
Finally been exposed to my first Cassavetes, at the Cinémathèque. Absolutely loved the two I saw.

Shadows and Love Streams. Almost completely divergent films but so similar. I've never seen anything like his way of filmmaking. It's raw and completely nuts.

Keen for next week's.
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Post by: Namtab on March 01, 2018, 04:50:30 PM
Just had the pleasure of showing Don't Look Now to a friend who had never seen it and knew next to nothing about it. The final montage still has to be one of the best pieces of editing in cinema.
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Post by: Z on March 02, 2018, 11:23:38 PM
California Typewriter
About a typewriter repairs place padded out with some enthusiasts and celebrities.

The celebrities:
John Mayer seems like a tedious bore who comments on Rolling Stones videos about how he wishes he was around in the 60s instead of now
Tom Hanks seems charming but also kind of insufferably obnoxious, but also openly so
Sam Shepherd seems very old and very frail, he kinda shites on about how "it's real, that ink!" but manages to make it sound cool regardless

The enthusiasts:
The artist guy seems like he wants to fuck a typewriter, but the editing is largely to blame there. He makes the exact kind of kitsch tat that you'd expect Bay Area techies to piss money away on
The typewriter band were as insufferable as you'd expect, it's nice they found each other, I guess
The english collector guy was boring, but I liked how the scene of him and the one other collector guy he was hoping to buy from seemed like the most insincerely cordial thing ever
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 02, 2018, 11:29:49 PM
Is that a film or a documentary, can't tell.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 03, 2018, 12:17:29 AM
combat shock (1984)

turns out, yosser never did find a job
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 03, 2018, 05:45:39 PM
Sans Soleil by Chris Marker
Really amazing. Some of the sequences were just breathtakingly inventive, like the sequence on the train which juxtaposes the mundane stillness of a morning commute with images of... No I won't spoil it. It's one of those rare films which feels like it introduces a new way of seeing.

Pauline à la plage by Éric Rohmer
Same old, same old from Rohmer. Entertaining enough, but getting a little bit too schematic.

Merry-Go-Round by Jacques Rivette
Almost impossible to follow, but has a certain shaggy charm. Extremely hindered by the fact that Maria Schneider cannot hide her desire to be literally anywhere else. But I'm always really taken by Rivette's ability to make a lot out of very little.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 03, 2018, 06:00:35 PM
the way people describe Rohmer (both positive and negative) is exactly like what someone that really loathes mike leigh would say about mike leigh
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 03, 2018, 06:09:33 PM
watched deadbeat at dawn right after watching combat shock last night
little stunner. lots of wonderfully manic editing in fight scenes
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 03, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
Today I saw Run, Lola, Run!

It's another film I've not seen or really thought about since I was in my teens. I actually wanted to revisit it, but it cropped up at a film festival, so I thought I would go and catch it.

It's essentially a '90s ripoff of Kieślowski's Blind Chance, and then Sliding Doors did both of them badly. Then again I doubt Kieślowski owns the idea of synchronicity and altered timelines.

Anyway, this was shown in what was normally a club, and the sound was piped through the main PA a bit too loud, which made the very '90s direction (Dutch angles, fast cuts and interspersed camcorder footage) and pounding techno make it seem like a feature length music video.

It is probably the best way to consume it, it was fantastic.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 03, 2018, 09:25:11 PM
Today I saw Run, Lola, Run!


Best hairy armpit movie
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 03, 2018, 09:26:56 PM
Watching Cocktail right now (not by choice). Never seen it before.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 03, 2018, 09:51:19 PM
Best hairy armpit movie

I've definitely got a thing for proper artificial red hair, but that's not important right now.
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Post by: amputeeporn on March 03, 2018, 10:41:24 PM
Magic Mike.

So much fun. Went in expecting a fun Saturday night blast (and got it), but was impressed by a character-driven come-up story with a heart of gold. Tatum as Magic Mike is beyond likeable, and he plays a smooth operator who can strip with passion and also view it from an amused distance. Laughs and a strangely affecting love story made this a treat.

Also - Cody Horn. Mercy...
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Post by: Z on March 03, 2018, 10:46:47 PM
Chuck
Liev Schrieber plays that guy who thinks Rocky was based on him. Elizabeth Moss plays his wife. As a completely ignored and already forgotten release, it was an okay half watch, but it was a generic as hell comedy infused narration driven semi-biopic in that kind of style that things like I Tonya do.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 03, 2018, 11:32:45 PM
Rolling Thunder (1977) - A great, brutal revenge flick. Tarantino's favourite film, apparently

4 licks of the spoon
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Post by: bgmnts on March 04, 2018, 12:25:30 AM
Ravenous. (Les Affemes) 8/10


One of the odder zombie films I've seen. More akin to 28 Days Later really. Pretty decent though, albeit a tad slow paced and I feel a lot was unexplored. Adds to the mystery, I guess.
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Post by: thecuriousorange on March 04, 2018, 01:26:31 AM
I'm happy to admit I watched Braveheart today and enjoyed it out of nostalgia. Look, I'm aware the story is a work of complete fiction and nationalism is bad etc. I hadn't seen it for almost 20 years. The battle scenes more than hold up. The dialogue is mostly terrible, with the romantic moments particularly painful.

I also watched  Sausage Party, which was funnier than I expected. A few good jokes and it reminded me of South Park.
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Post by: zomgmouse on March 04, 2018, 02:37:35 AM
I love "Virgin Among The Living Dead", like, seriously think it's a real proper brilliant work of cinema, so would recommend that next. Please don't be too mean to it.

At your recommendation, watched this - there's some proper interesting atmosphere work going on, very haunting towards the end especially, but a bit too much gratuitous female nudity and fucking for my liking. Especially the final rape scene. Supposedly the scenes with the zombies were added after Franco shot the film and he was annoyed at the recut version but I actually quite liked the zombie bits.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 04, 2018, 03:09:59 PM
Dog Day Afternoon

I'm not really a Pacino fan. He's good in The Godfather, obviously, but Scarface, Carlito's Way, and Heat all left me a little bit underwhelmed. Dog Day Afternoon is brilliant, though, and so's his performance.

Saw this earlier and like you typically find Pacino a bit dull, but this was incredible.

It also handles both homosexuality and transgender stuff in a way that would be reasonably progressive even by modern standards. Sonny is a nice guy who has made a bad decision.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: asids on March 04, 2018, 07:55:01 PM
It's hardly "non-new" (came out last year, but it doesn't deserve its own thread), but American Made with Tom Cruise. It's mediocre bumbling crap, to be honest. Uninteresting and done in the style of Cruise narrating over events which I just find really patronising most of the time, "now there was this cartel guy..." etc. I find it doesn't work most of the time, and it probably rips off Netflix's Narcos since if I remember correctly Boyd Holbrook narrates over events in that too and it's about pretty much the same subject matter - Central/South American drug trade in the 80s.

It's not really surely what it wants to be - a satirical comedy, a eye-opening drama, a biographical film - so it mixes all these different things together and isn't good at any of them. Nothing of note ever really happens, we're just dragged along from scene to scene as Cruise recalls the story. Cruise is also very much phoning it in, as is just about everyone else. It's also inspired me to start a thread about Jesse Plemons (he's listed as part of the main cast despite getting all of 2 minutes of screen time and doing nothing) and his increasing ubiquity in films for no reason which I will start soon.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 04, 2018, 09:43:02 PM
little murders

so fucking good

so good
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: bgmnts on March 05, 2018, 12:30:41 AM
10 Cloverfield Lane. 7/10

Pretty decent thriller. I thought Winstead was good and Goodman was great!

Although I personally feel that the half hearted link but not link to the Cloverfield universe fell flat and it would have worked a bit better if they had gone with the original script and it was a nuclear attack.

I thought the Emmet was a bit of a nothing character really, bar one moment in the film. Would have been fine if they just went full Misery. I'm probably wrong though.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on March 05, 2018, 01:03:40 AM
Ms. 45. Blew me away. I was enthralled. It's really difficult to watch, especially at the start, but it's amazing.
I've written some more words on my letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/zomgmouse/film/ms-45/
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 05, 2018, 01:26:29 AM
have you seen deadbeat at dawn zomg? i bet youd love that
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on March 05, 2018, 02:46:27 AM
have you seen deadbeat at dawn zomg? i bet youd love that
No but it's on my list! As is Little Murders which you mentioned earlier. However I think next I'll be going on a little Ferrara marathon.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on March 05, 2018, 07:24:11 AM
little murders

so fucking good

so good

That wedding scene is one of my favourite things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kCrrjp2epY
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on March 05, 2018, 08:15:29 AM
My Friend Dahmer (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/my_friend_dahmer) 2017

Based on the graphic novel by a bloke who was at school with Dahmer, basically quite a realistic portrayal of a goofy but deeply disturbed boy who makes superficial friendships with the other boys around him through doing stunts like pretending to have fits and 'spazmo' impressions. The social circle he acquires treat him more of a curio or mascot only fit for Court Jestering rather than the friend he thinks he is, it's a sad and pitiful existence until his obsessions start to rise to the fore and the inkling of things to come turns chilling.

(https://gabistan.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dahmer.gif?w=518&h=819)(http://seantcollins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/pg130.png)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Gregory Torso on March 05, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
^ That sounds interesting. Cheers, Steven.

Ms. 45. Blew me away. I was enthralled. It's really difficult to watch, especially at the start, but it's amazing.
I've written some more words on my letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/zomgmouse/film/ms-45/

Yes! I saw this last year some time. It's a tough watch but really great. Zoe Lund is breathtakingly beautiful.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 05, 2018, 02:03:58 PM
I need to watch that Dahmer film. And those graphics are funny as hell. BAAAAAAAAAAAA!

So wrong
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 05, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
That wedding scene is one of my favourite things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kCrrjp2epY
i heard a lot about the wedding scene before I went in but I think the court scene with lou was funnier
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: bgmnts on March 05, 2018, 06:17:17 PM
Cabin in the Woods.

Really entertaining.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on March 05, 2018, 06:36:14 PM
I too have watched My Friend Dahmer and it's going to take something extraordinary to topple this as the best film of 2018.  It's absolutely superb.  Dark, disturbing and perhaps even beautiful.  Like with the portrayal of Hitler in Downfall, it doesn't demonise its subject and is all the better for it.  10/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: bgmnts on March 05, 2018, 07:52:30 PM
Veronica. Got a bit bored halfway through but it picked up during the second half.

Definitely not the scariest horror film ever, according to the NME, but it's pretty decent. Usual seance paranormal shit, you all know the score.

I thought the lead actress Sandra Escacena was really good and the child actors were quite good too. The little boy was too adorable and goofy though.

There were some cool shots in the film though, at the start of the film there was a nice transition from the end of events to the beginning.

7/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on March 05, 2018, 09:21:11 PM
Harlan County USA
Still great but also depressing
I liked this scene a lot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYSRYAwh3UM


Golden Exits
My opinion of this film is totally lopsided due to it shooting on 16mm. A film with a reasonable budget shot competently in 2016 NYC on 16mm is gonna look great to me.
The slightest of Alex Ross Perry's films, very forgettable but with enough to it for me to keep expecting a lot from him.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Gregory Torso on March 06, 2018, 03:49:51 AM
I too have watched My Friend Dahmer and it's going to take something extraordinary to topple this as the best film of 2018.  It's absolutely superb.  Dark, disturbing and perhaps even beautiful.  Like with the portrayal of Hitler in Downfall, it doesn't demonise its subject and is all the better for it.  10/10

I watched this last night and thought it was amazing. Ross Lynch plays Dahmer really well, perfect balance of pathetic, lonely almost sympathetic outsider and creepy, psycho, weird arsehole. I also liked how, I presume, the guy who wrote it was the one in the film who did the drawing, and he wasn't afraid to show himself as being a bit of a shithead. The bit in the mall was just painful to watch. The only thing I didn't like was the end which seemed a little too on the nose. But god, what a film.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on March 06, 2018, 10:07:05 AM
...I presume, the guy who wrote it was the one in the film who did the drawing...

He was/is indeed.  John "Derf" Backderf.

...and he wasn't afraid to show himself as being a bit of a shithead.

I read an interview with Backderf the other day and he talked about exactly this.  He explained how there's no room for vanity and self-editing revisionism of oneself, when dealing with an autobiographical recollection.  One's ego has to be left at the door, so that the truth may be shown.  Which is the correct approach to take.

The bit in the mall was just painful to watch.

Wasn't it just?  That scene was the highlight of the film, I thought.

The only thing I didn't like was the end which seemed a little too on the nose. But god, what a film.

If you're referring to the scene with the baseball bat, then I absolutely agree.  That didn't ring true and I suspect, was invented purely for the narrative of the film.  I doubt it was even included in the original graphic novel.  If you're referring to Dahmer meeting his first victim, Steven Hicks (which is technically the last scene of the film), then I disagree because by all accounts, that was true to actual events and the perfect way to end the film, I thought; stopping just before Dahmer committed his first murder.  Quite apt for a film which deals with the pre-murder life of Dahmer and showing the events which led to him feeling compelled to kill.

By the way, I also recommend the film Dhamer (2002).  It deals with the events of Jeffery Dahmer, following the ones depicted in My Friend Dahmer and is also excellent.  It's not as masterful as the latter and there are more liberties taken with the factual aspects of his life but it's still very good and a worthy companion piece to My Friend Dahmer.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shameless Custard on March 06, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
Flatliners (1990) - So I can finally tick this off my "To Watch" list.

It's a solid and interesting premise, and although I found bits here and there a bit dated or duff, it's a really well made film, and I was invested throughout

Jack Bauer, Julia Roberts, Kevin Bacon all in their prime. One of the Baldwins. That bloke from the first season of Fargo. Solid

4 pancakes, bit of syrup
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Gregory Torso on March 06, 2018, 10:18:59 AM
Yeah - St Eddie, I meant the bit with the baseball bat. Just an unnecessary fake bit of tension. We already realise that Dahmers gone beyond the point of no return and is ready to snap.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on March 06, 2018, 10:32:31 AM
Yeah - St Eddie, I meant the bit with the baseball bat. Just an unnecessary fake bit of tension. We already realise that Dahmers gone beyond the point of no return and is ready to snap.

I suspect it was a bit of creative license in a conflation of two separate events - Dahmer's very real plan to knock out a particular jogger he was stalking with a baseball bat and have sex with his unconscious body, and he probably did try to get Backderf or various other lads round to an empty house to get drunk so he could try something similar. Backderf and many others weren't really more than acquaintances with a morbid curiosity in Dahmer so probably never took the bait - but in sharp relief of hindsight he can probably imagine what Dahmer's gameplan might have been. Hence the scene in the film to add a bit of tension and foreshadowing.

(https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/my-friend-dahmer.jpg)(http://jamesrenner.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/6a0105369e6edf970b016301b52889970d-320wi.jpeg)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on March 06, 2018, 10:57:13 AM
Yeah - St Eddie, I meant the bit with the baseball bat. Just an unnecessary fake bit of tension. We already realise that Dahmers gone beyond the point of no return and is ready to snap.

Yep.

I suspect it was a bit of creative license in a conflation of two separate events - Dahmer's very real plan to knock out a particular jogger he was stalking with a baseball bat and have sex with his unconscious body, and he probably did try to get Backderf or various other lads round to an empty house to get drunk so he could try something similar. Backderf and many others weren't really more than acquaintances with a morbid curiosity in Dahmer so probably never took the bait - but in sharp relief of hindsight he can probably imagine what Dahmer's gameplan might have been. Hence the scene in the film to add a bit of tension and foreshadowing.

I agree that's the reason for the scene to be in the film but I still don't like it.  It seems a shame to include that scene as a way of artificially creating tension, when the film had done so well to stick to the relative truth, up until that point.  It's a bit of a nitpick though because I think that's it's an incredible film and is already within my top 20 films of all time.  It's just, dang; it would have been absolutely perfect and flawless, in my mind, if not for that one moment of trying to appease to the lowest common denominator of the slasher crowd.

Regardless of intent, as @Gregory Torso said, the film simply didn't need that moment.  It would have been better if Derf had simply rejected Dahmer's invitation for a beer and driven off.  Dahmer would then be all the more alone and lost; a great setup for his meeting with Steven Hicks and his subsequent first kill (which was done because Dahmer didn't want Hicks to leave him, as everyone else had; which is Dahmer's account for why he killed Hicks).

There was no call to create a fictionalised event of Derf realising that Dahmer wanted to kill him and him hastily driving away, as Dahmer stands watching him, baseball bat in hand.  That's pure Hollywood bullshit and is in stark contract to every other aspect, approach and nuance which this film so brilliantly took.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 06, 2018, 12:30:28 PM
Peckinpah's The Killer Elite for the first time in about 20 years.  For me his worst film by some margin.  That place would otherwise be occupied The Osterman Weekend, but it's the dreadfully lame ninja stuff that kills Elite.  Pretty clear throughout that James Caan didn't really want to be there.

The Conspiracy.  Canadian faux documentary with a bit of found footage thrown in.  Watchable enough, but as with nearly all of those types of films it's a little bit low-rent with little impact.

Finally caught up with The Revanant.  Very very good, although I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little bit disappointed the second and third acts weren't that close to what actually happened (or what is alleged to have happened).  I DO know it's based more on the novel that fictionalised a lot of events, though.

Tha Jazz Singer (the Neil Diamond one).  Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.  Along with Inchon, proves that Olivier could be howlingly bad - the Razzie he won was well deserved.  Mind you, Hey Louise is a great fucking song.

Hell and Back.  Very mediocre adult stop-motion comedy with a cast that promises so much more than it delivers.  Seems to be a male rape joke every couple of minutes.  The stop motion is great, but everything else lets it down massively.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 06, 2018, 02:54:39 PM
Peckinpah's Killer Elite is fucking gash

Peckinpah made three absolute howlers, Killer Elite, Convoy and Osterman Weekend

Of those three I think only Osterman Weekend isn't a total embarrassing mess
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: phantom_power on March 06, 2018, 03:09:52 PM
Crocodile Dundee - less funny than I remember. More swearing. About the same amount of problematic sexism. They spend more time in Australia than I remember as well. I thought it was 10 minutes at the start before the fish out of water stuff begins but almost half the film is spent down under
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 06, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
Peckinpah's Killer Elite is fucking gash

Peckinpah made three absolute howlers, Killer Elite, Convoy and Osterman Weekend

Of those three I think only Osterman Weekend isn't a total embarrassing mess

I dunno, I've always had quite a soft spot for Convoy.  Of course it's not up there with his best, or even his second tier films, but as a film about truckers based on a song goes, it's not that bad.  Good comedy turn from Ernest Borgnine as well.  And Kris Kristofferson has been a lot worse.

But yeah - Killer Elite and Osterman Weekend are shit for cunts.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 06, 2018, 03:17:04 PM
Crocodile Dundee - less funny than I remember. More swearing. About the same amount of problematic sexism.

I still like it.  Very of its time, of course.  But on the sexism front, you have to keep in mind that it has elements of an Ocker film about it, and the two go hand in hand.  ...er...hand on breast.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: phantom_power on March 06, 2018, 03:39:09 PM
Yeah, I was being a bit facetious there. I imagine if a reboot were made now though a lot of that stuff would not make the transition
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 07, 2018, 03:32:03 AM
a new leaf
~ヾ(^∇^)

somewhere between housekeeping and albert brooks

gonna rush out and do heartbreak kid and mikey and nicky in the next few days
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 07, 2018, 03:41:54 AM
flesh
i'm marrying Jackie Curtis

wish I wasn't aware of paul morrissey being a huge right wing reactionary because the entire film just comes off as snidey knowing that dun it
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 07, 2018, 04:43:21 AM
actually, thinking about it now, if you like a new leaf you should DEFINITELY see bill forsyth's housekeeping
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shameless Custard on March 07, 2018, 05:48:34 AM
Gaslight (1940) - Anton Walbrook is great as a coniving bastard husband trying to send his wife (Diana Wyngard) insane. Lovely stuff

4 cheese slice, no crackers
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 07, 2018, 06:14:01 PM
restless natives
wonderful bill forsyth tribute

forerunner to the neo-ealing exercises of Waking Ned and co
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on March 07, 2018, 07:05:12 PM
Leos Carax's Boy Beets Girl, first thing of his I'v seen other than Holy Motors and I preferred it to that, actually reminds me somewhat of a more depressed Double Life of Veronique, same kind of whoozy tragic romantic atmosphere, generally very good looking but especially the way its lead actress is filmed. I'm struggling to think of many shots better than...

(https://www.scaruffi.com/director/carax/carax2.jpg)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 07, 2018, 08:06:41 PM
mauvais sang had too much of that godard / early besson for me

Holy Motors is great with friends everybody loves the accordion scene
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on March 07, 2018, 11:54:48 PM
Two double features I attended recently:

William Castle double:
- The Tingler, delightfully schlocky fare with Vincent Price surprisingly dialling down the ham. A sparse crowd so nobody really screamed at the end when the film tells you to scream. It's a lot of fun though and puts in some silly twists.
- Strait-Jacket. Joan Crawford freaks out a bunch. Written by Psycho's Robert Bloch. More melodrama than I expected but still not bad.

Another Cassavetes double:
- Faces. Stupendous. Probably the best one I've seen so far. So deeply earnest and funny and bleak. Just marvellous.
- Minnie and Moskowitz. This film was nuts. Cassel was totally unhinged. I'm still trying to get to grips with this film. Also incredibly hilarious. Zelmo Swift, what a creation. Everything in this defies sense. And of course there's some devastating moments too.

a new leaf
~ヾ(^∇^)

somewhere between housekeeping and albert brooks

gonna rush out and do heartbreak kid and mikey and nicky in the next few days

Yeah this is terrific. Why I didn't go and wolf down her other films immediately is beyond me.

Gaslight (1940) - Anton Walbrook is great as a coniving bastard husband trying to send his wife (Diana Wyngard) insane. Lovely stuff

4 cheese slice, no crackers

Nice to see the original adaptation of the play getting some airing; the later version is obviously more famous but has its flaws. For me neither has come close to capturing the fear and claustrophobia of the play.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on March 08, 2018, 12:06:30 AM
Zoe Lund is breathtakingly beautiful.

It's a fantastic film but I don't think that's a particularly appropriate reaction given the subject matter.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blumf on March 08, 2018, 12:40:27 AM
Ms. 45. Blew me away. I was enthralled. It's really difficult to watch, especially at the start, but it's amazing.
I've written some more words on my letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/zomgmouse/film/ms-45/

Some John Maus works rather well with the party scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5P8T8HliWc
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 08, 2018, 12:52:42 AM
I hate to sound like a cunt who spouts platitudes, but thinking of Lund always reminds me of how drugs have taken some really talented people from us who could still be out there doing great art.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Gregory Torso on March 08, 2018, 04:20:09 AM
It's a fantastic film but I don't think that's a particularly appropriate reaction given the subject matter.

Yeah. Apologies. I meant it more as a general comment about Zoe Lund the actress, rather than her particular character in this film. I realise it comes across as a bit PHWOAR LADS.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: gout_pony on March 08, 2018, 08:51:38 AM
Some John Maus works rather well with the party scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5P8T8HliWc

Possibly my fave John Maus fan video (of which there are lots of good 'uns), that.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on March 08, 2018, 11:02:53 AM
I watched a double bill of wilderness years Mark Hamill movies last night - Time Runner (1993) and Black Magic Woman (1991).
I once did a Mark Hamill triple bill,
Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Mutronics The Movie.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on March 08, 2018, 07:57:17 PM
Citizen Dog (2004) - A musical romcom from Thailand, it's brightly lit strong colours and magical realism reminded me of Amelie though this has it's own unique sense of humour and tone. Plus songs! Lovely lovely songs. It's one of those "Everything and the kitchen sink" films when it comes to playing around with ideas, and pulls all off with aplomb. 8.7/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 08, 2018, 08:43:22 PM
Straight Outta Compton.  Dunno...felt a bit like a cartoon.  Admittedly I don't know much about NWA - was never a fan of West Coast stuff, much preferred the East Coast, Public Enemy, Doug E Fresh etc.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 08, 2018, 08:50:43 PM
fucking hell compton came out in 2015? 
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 08, 2018, 10:46:03 PM
I think Compton is best enjoyed of you have a love of that era hip hop. Hip hop was my first musical obsession and Compton was the second hip hop album I ever heard (fear of a black planet being the first) so for me it was massively nostalgic.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 08, 2018, 11:00:27 PM
I enjoyed Compton quite a bit. It was certainly glamorised in places and you could tell the lawyers had been all over it, but I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 08, 2018, 11:18:35 PM
The best scene is where the rest of the group are listening to Cube's no vaseline.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 08, 2018, 11:25:27 PM
The worst scene is when Suge and his boys beat the shit out of Eazy E, and then when we next see Eazy at Jerry Heller's house straight after the beating he's just got a bloody left nostril and a small cut on his lip.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 08, 2018, 11:45:06 PM
I think Compton is best enjoyed of you have a love of that era hip hop. Hip hop was my first musical obsession and Compton was the second hip hop album I ever heard (fear of a black planet being the first) so for me it was massively nostalgic.
every so often i get obsessed with friday / menace 2 society / boyz in the hood
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on March 09, 2018, 01:51:31 AM
Citizen Dog (2004) - A musical romcom from Thailand, it's brightly lit strong colours and magical realism reminded me of Amelie though this has it's own unique sense of humour and tone. Plus songs! Lovely lovely songs. It's one of those "Everything and the kitchen sink" films when it comes to playing around with ideas, and pulls all off with aplomb. 8.7/10

Very disappointed to learn this is not a film about a dog who is a citizen. Still looks quite good.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: phantom_power on March 09, 2018, 07:21:06 AM
Zone Troopers - Super cheesy low budget b-movie from 1985. Tim Thomerson stars in an action sci-fi film that mixes aliens and WWII. Good silly fun with bits that could almost be sit-com advert buttons. Memorable video cover from my childhood
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on March 09, 2018, 03:14:32 PM
New York New York
aka the Martin Scorsese musical
Mehhhhhhh, don't really get what he was going for at all
Pretty impressive how strongly the song has endured in the public consciousness considering most people you'd ask wouldn't even know the film, or that Scorsese ever done anything like it


Get Me Roger Stone

Standard Netflix documentary


Icarus

It felt like it was good and big and important and so on the whole way through but in retrospect I feel decidedly ambivalent
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 09, 2018, 03:18:20 PM
every so often i get obsessed with friday / menace 2 society / boyz in the hood

One of these is not like the others. I've cried each and every time I've watched Boyz n the hood.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on March 09, 2018, 03:18:39 PM
Very disappointed to learn this is not a film about a dog who is a citizen. Still looks quite good.

How do you think I feel, as I knew it was a musical so presumed it would feature singing dogs. Hmmmm. Maybe I should make that film. I can't see how it wouldn't be an enormous success.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 09, 2018, 05:48:23 PM
One of these is not like the others. I've cried each and every time I've watched Boyz n the hood.
friday rules and is just as good as boyz
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shameless Custard on March 09, 2018, 07:33:13 PM
Jane Got A Gun (2015) - Fairly entertaining western, starring Natalie Portman, Joel Edgerton, and Ewen McGregor. ***

Lizzie Borden Took An Axe (2014) - Love me some Christina Ricci and she made this far more watchable than it probably would've been without her. ***

Batman: Gotham By Gaslight (2018) - Really enjoyed this. Really well done. ****

Snowpiercer (2013) - Loved the first half, wasn't too crazy about the second, but overall it was a lorra fun. ****

The Post (2018) - Interesting enough, but really slow moving in the early going. Tom Hanks is great, as usual. ***

Retreat (2011) - Excellent thriller/horror, with a solid British cast. ****

A History Of Violence (2005) - Hadn't seen this in years. Forgot what a great film it is. One of Cronenberg's finest. ****
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: bgmnts on March 09, 2018, 07:34:35 PM
Is the NWA film any good if you arent arse about that silly gangsta rap shit?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 09, 2018, 07:39:23 PM
Is the NWA film any good if you arent arse about that silly gangsta rap shit?

Probably better off with Wildstyle in that case.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 09, 2018, 07:40:48 PM
friday rules and is just as good as boyz

Even don't be a menace is good though.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 09, 2018, 07:43:18 PM
Even don't be a menace is good though.
aint seen that one
heard its the superior of the the 41 year old virgin who knocked up sarah marshall and felt superbad about it bunch
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 09, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
aint seen that one
heard its the superior of the the 41 year old virgin who knocked up sarah marshall and felt superbad about it bunch

What this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Be_a_Menace_to_South_Central_While_Drinking_Your_Juice_in_the_Hood

Don't see what it has to do with that lot?

CB4 is good as well. If only for the name 'stabmaster arson'.
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Post by: DukeDeMondo on March 09, 2018, 07:54:43 PM
It's a bit of a nitpick though because I think that's it's an incredible film and is already within my top 20 films of all time.

I don't mean to be an arse, Eddie, but I am properly flabbergasted by this. My Friend Dahmer is in your top 20 films of all time?? How???

I'm clearly missing something here. I just watched it, expecting something pretty decent, and I thought it was absolutely fucking woeful. Terrible, terrible stuff. Something you could put together yourself after spending all of 30 seconds reading the first few lines of the Jeffrey Dahmer wikipedia entry. Not a single one of its scenes rung true to me. It was horribly written. The direction was rudimentary telenovela stuff at best. No nuance, no subtlety, no imagination, no nothing. Clichés and clumsy as fuck portents abound. Performances were fine, I suppose. Did the best they could do with the garbage they were given. And it was fucking garbage, and no mistake. "There's been a reported rise in Satanic witch cults." Zacchaeus wept.

There was nothing insightful about it, nothing compelling or original or worthwhile in any way whatsoever. It felt every inch the lazy, cynical prequel that it is. Oh look, bones! This is where the bones all started! Oh look! A bottle of booze! This is where the bottle of booze all started!

Just the fucking pits. Worst thing I've seen in a hundred years.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 09, 2018, 08:08:54 PM
Is the NWA film any good if you arent arse about that silly gangsta rap shit?

Like I said, it plays like a cartoon - it's essentially a long music video version of real events.  Snippets of retrospective videos, interviews and home movie footage run over the first few minutes of the end credits and...well, let's just say there's quite a gulf between the gritty (some might say low-rent) reality of those and the same events as depicted in the film.  There's even a car chase with what looks like the entire LAPD (helicopters included) going after Dr Dre on an almost empty LA freeway.  I honestly couldn't take it very seriously.


friday rules and is just as good as boyz

I love Friday (I also have a soft spot for all of the sequels), especially John Witherspoon in all his grape sucking glory ("Every taaaaaahm I come in the kitchen, you in the kitchen.  In the GOD DAMN refrigerator.  Eating up AAAAALL the fooooood...").  Such a shame about the switch to serious gangsta drama towards the end - completely ruins the good-times mood of the rest of the film. 

As Seb Cobb said, Don't Be A Menace is good (probably the last decent comedy any of the Wayans brothers were involved with), and CB4 (also cf. its kissing cousin Fear of a Black Hat, despite it being a fairly hefty rip-off of Spinal Tap).
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 09, 2018, 08:13:48 PM
What this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Be_a_Menace_to_South_Central_While_Drinking_Your_Juice_in_the_Hood

Don't see what it has to do with that lot?

CB4 is good as well. If only for the name 'stabmaster arson'.
you know what i mean
the genre parodies with the long list title of films its parodying

30 Nights of Paranormal Activity with the Devil Inside the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
My Big Fat Independent Movie
Shriek If You Know What I Did Last Friday the Thirteenth


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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 09, 2018, 11:57:11 PM
One of these is not like the others. I've cried each and every time I've watched Boyz n the hood.

I wish Furious Styles was my dad.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 10, 2018, 12:19:48 AM
carnival of souls
loved it

that's all you're getting out on me
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Post by: bgmnts on March 10, 2018, 12:35:47 AM
Misery.

It's weird talking about films based on Stephen King works because half are dog dirt and half are absolutely brilliant. Misery tips into the latter category solely based on Caan and especially Bates. Kathy Bates is phenomenal in this I think,no wonder she won the Oscar for it.

Also the pig puts in an amazing performance too.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 10, 2018, 12:52:55 AM
carnival of souls
loved it

that's all you're getting out on me

I saw this a few years ago and really enjoyed it, even if it was a bit of a dodgy cropped film screening that popped in and out of focus.

I especially liked the bit where she spends 5 minutes talking to a doctor and says 'now i'm no psychiatrist, but you're probably a bit mental'.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 10, 2018, 01:05:15 AM
I saw this a few years ago and really enjoyed it, even if it was a bit of a dodgy cropped film screening that popped in and out of focus.

I especially liked the bit where she spends 5 minutes talking to a doctor and says 'now i'm no psychiatrist, but you're probably a bit mental'.
the guy that wanted a bit of muff
the dirty bastard
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 10, 2018, 01:18:47 AM
I'm half watching this right now (while doing some guitar practice) on the Horror channel. It's pretty good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076683/
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 10, 2018, 01:23:38 AM
I'm half watching this right now (while doing some guitar practice) on the Horror channel. It's pretty good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076683/
imma spoil it for you, watch out
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 10, 2018, 01:24:20 AM
I'm half watching this right now (while doing some guitar practice) on the Horror channel. It's pretty good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076683/

I'm watching this: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075730/?ref_=tt_rec_tt

I'm not really in the mood for it but it was leaving mubi tonight.
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 10, 2018, 01:32:40 AM
imma spoil it for you, watch out

Good watch out or bad watch out? Nice to see a young and very cool Walken turn up.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 10, 2018, 01:44:11 AM
Good watch out or bad watch out? Nice to see a young and very cool Walken turn up.
they all get ran over by a train. watch out for the train.
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on March 10, 2018, 01:59:33 AM
they all get ran over by a train. watch out for the train.

Accident or evil killer train?
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 11, 2018, 01:57:17 AM
An Education. Didn't like it. Flowery sentimental wank, with a possible nonce.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 11, 2018, 01:04:54 PM
An Education. Didn't like it. Flowery sentimental wank, with a possible nonce.

After that I watched Housekeeping and really enjoyed it. I concluded most Nick Hornby films are like poor photocopies of Bill Forsyth with a sprinkling of Richard Curtis sentimentality.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 11, 2018, 01:14:31 PM
YAAAASS its amazing isnt it the fairy scene and the ending static shot ruined me
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 11, 2018, 01:17:45 PM
YAAAASS its amazing isnt it the fairy scene and the ending static shot ruined me

On the version I watched it faded to black as they walked off and it repeated something about her always leaving.

It was great yeah.
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Post by: Z on March 11, 2018, 01:39:02 PM
After that I watched Housekeeping and really enjoyed it. I concluded most Nick Hornby films are like poor photocopies of Bill Forsyth with a sprinkling of Richard Curtis sentimentality.
Helps a lot that Christine Lahti is fucking brilliant too. Probably the Bill Forsyth film I've recommended most often (usually under the guise of "you want films with interesting female characters?").
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Post by: asids on March 11, 2018, 02:09:45 PM
Misery.

It's weird talking about films based on Stephen King works because half are dog dirt and half are absolutely brilliant. Misery tips into the latter category solely based on Caan and especially Bates. Kathy Bates is phenomenal in this I think,no wonder she won the Oscar for it.

Also the pig puts in an amazing performance too.

Misery is a great film. Very rewatchable.
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Post by: Steven on March 11, 2018, 02:21:04 PM
Misery is a great film. Very rewatchable.

(http://pa1.narvii.com/6419/cd8fc1e2d2e2b5a9d7e19a5fb3ae8be554c45c36_00.gif)
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 11, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
Helps a lot that Christine Lahti is fucking brilliant too. Probably the Bill Forsyth film I've recommended most often (usually under the guise of "you want films with interesting female characters?").

Aye she's great. Started to dislike Lucille when she left.

My goto for that question would probably be The Last Seduction, seeing as it's relevant.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on March 11, 2018, 09:36:18 PM
I don't mean to be an arse, Eddie, but I am properly flabbergasted by this. My Friend Dahmer is in your top 20 films of all time?? How???

I'm clearly missing something here. I just watched it, expecting something pretty decent, and I thought it was absolutely fucking woeful. Terrible, terrible stuff. Something you could put together yourself after spending all of 30 seconds reading the first few lines of the Jeffrey Dahmer wikipedia entry. Not a single one of its scenes rung true to me. It was horribly written. The direction was rudimentary telenovela stuff at best. No nuance, no subtlety, no imagination, no nothing. Clichés and clumsy as fuck portents abound. Performances were fine, I suppose. Did the best they could do with the garbage they were given. And it was fucking garbage, and no mistake. "There's been a reported rise in Satanic witch cults." Zacchaeus wept.

There was nothing insightful about it, nothing compelling or original or worthwhile in any way whatsoever. It felt every inch the lazy, cynical prequel that it is. Oh look, bones! This is where the bones all started! Oh look! A bottle of booze! This is where the bottle of booze all started!

Just the fucking pits. Worst thing I've seen in a hundred years.

Saying that it was in my top 20 may have been hyperbolic, in retrospect.  However, I really do think that it's an excellent film.  You disagree and that's okay.  I'm not going to try and defend the film because what would be the point?  You feel the way that you do and I feel then way I do.  I severely doubt that anything I say, could possibly sway your opinion.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 11, 2018, 09:37:48 PM
"Worst thing i've seen a hundred years" is equally as hyperbolic and I haven't seen the film.
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Post by: DukeDeMondo on March 11, 2018, 09:57:45 PM
Saying that it was in my top 20 may have been hyperbolic, in retrospect.  However, I really do think that it's an excellent film.  You disagree and that's okay.  I'm not going to try and defend the film because what would be the point?  You feel the way that you do and I feel then way I do.  I severely doubt that anything I say, could possibly sway your opinion.

Ach, I'm sorry, I felt like a right fucking prick after posting that. I don't like it when people bang on about how things I like and things that I've gotten all excited about are rubbish. Shouldn't have ranted on like that.

Anyway, you're not alone, plenty of people seem to think it's something very special. I just don't see it, myself, but, whatever.

"Worst thing i've seen a hundred years" is equally as hyperbolic and I haven't seen the film.

Ha, I know. I was only being silly.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 11, 2018, 10:08:14 PM
Fair.


The Rezort.

I think the spelling of resort sums up the film. Silly zombie shit. Only 20 minutes in but I already hate every character in this.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on March 11, 2018, 11:46:10 PM
Ach, I'm sorry, I felt like a right fucking prick after posting that. I don't like it when people bang on about how things I like and things that I've gotten all excited about are rubbish. Shouldn't have ranted on like that.

Anyway, you're not alone, plenty of people seem to think it's something very special. I just don't see it, myself, but, whatever.

That's okay.  I didn't take offense or anything.  You were just being true to your own feelings about the film.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 12, 2018, 01:48:08 AM
Honestly think that BF is one of the most undervalued directors we have
Influenced everything from My Life as a Dog, Northerm Exposure, all those Ealing revival films of the late 90s / 2000s (Ned Devine, The Castle, The Dish, Doctor Lewis, that Gus Sant oil film with Matt Damon) but still no cunt cares
Even Kaurismaki brought him up in an interview when asked why all his films are in Finland - “I loved all those wonderful films that director did in Scotland that disappeared” “you mean Bill Forsyth?”
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 12, 2018, 12:18:48 PM
The Rezort.

I think the spelling of resort sums up the film. Silly zombie shit. Only 20 minutes in but I already hate every character in this.

I saw that a while ago and, interestingly, the version I saw had it spelt correctly (as in The Resort).  Otherwise, completely agree with your assessment.  And it doesn't get any better.  I think Dougray Scott has pretty much given up on any proper acting career now.


Honestly think that BF is one of the most undervalued directors we have

I think Being Human and Breaking In are both LONG overdue critical re-assessment, but that run from That Sinking Feeling to Housekeeping (personally, I would include Breaking In in that run, but I know a lot of people remain unconvinced) really is incredible.  Gregory's Two Girls is his only dud, really, and even that isn't that bad.


Kill the Irishman (AKA The Irishman).  I was expecting a lot more given how well it seems to have gone down with most people who have seen it, but as it is...nothing more than okay.  You can tell they ran out of time and money (most of the effects are pretty bad, the continuity is all over the shop), and a lot of the acting is a bit ropey.  Fair play to Hensleigh trying something different for the third time in a row, but he just hasn't got the chops, which is a shame cos it's a great fucking story.  You're just left wondering what a much better director would have done even if literally everything else was kept the same.

Also Trainwreck.  Not quite as bad as I was expecting - indeed, I did genuine LOLs several times.  I've always had a bit of a love/hate thing for Schumer.  She's clearly talented (and she's a half decent actress), but I've just never found much of her stuff particularly funny.  I guess you could say it was a pleasant surprise for me.  John Cena has comedy chops as well.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 12, 2018, 01:53:47 PM
Yet to watch  those, Breaking In seems more in line of the diy early Forsyths than Housekeeping or LH
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 12, 2018, 02:01:55 PM
Breaking In seems more in line of the diy early Forsyths than Housekeeping or LH

Yeah, it's low budget independent American cinema.  You'd never think it was made by a Weegie, although in large part thanks to a great script by John Sayles.  Brilliant little film.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on March 12, 2018, 02:50:03 PM
Also Trainwreck.  Not quite as bad as I was expecting - indeed, I did genuine LOLs several times.  I've always had a bit of a love/hate thing for Schumer.  She's clearly talented (and she's a half decent actress), but I've just never found much of her stuff particularly funny.  I guess you could say it was a pleasant surprise for me.  John Cena has comedy chops as well.

I feel the same way about Schumer, I wanted to like her sketch show more but it was way too repetitive. That said the "12 Angry Men Inside Amy Schumer" episode is all a bit stunning and a must see.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 12, 2018, 02:56:56 PM
That said the "12 Angry Men Inside Amy Schumer" episode is all a bit stunning and a must see.

Yeeeaaaahhhhh, I think we'll have to agree to disagree/observe our differing tastes on that one....(acknowledging not many agree with me)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 12, 2018, 03:29:46 PM
Rewatched Duel with my da for a laugh (he loved it)
It’s so taut. I can’t think of another thriller that lean
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 12, 2018, 03:32:55 PM
That’s me asking for a recommendation btw
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Post by: Sin Agog on March 12, 2018, 04:19:30 PM
Watch a film based on another Richard Matheson script, The Incredible Shrinking Man.  It's odd that a refugee from such a verbose medium managed to pen two of the purest action movies out there, both with extended wordless sequences, but he did.

Also, mentioned it t'other day, but Road Games (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083000/) starring Stacy Keach is kinda similar.  Think I found that one off the back of an Ozploitation documentary.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 12, 2018, 05:12:20 PM
Rewatched Duel with my da for a laugh (he loved it)
It’s so taut. I can’t think of another thriller that lean

Quote
That’s me asking for a recommendation btw

Walter Hill's The Driver - so lean the characters don't even have names (similar to Duel in that respect).
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Post by: phantom_power on March 12, 2018, 07:04:27 PM
Rewatched Duel with my da for a laugh (he loved it)
It’s so taut. I can’t think of another thriller that lean

The Hitcher (80s original)?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Gregory Torso on March 13, 2018, 06:03:28 AM
Compliance (2012) has really sunk me. I read about the case ages ago but seeing it actually play out in all its wilful stupidity and meanness ugh just squashed me into putty. People are so fucking awful. Similar psychological territory as the Stanford Prison experiment but much worse. Watched it last night and just went straight to bed, defeated. Not a bad film but I can't say I'd recommend it.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 13, 2018, 09:30:54 AM
put those on my list, thanks!
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 13, 2018, 09:34:08 AM
de palma's greetings
genuinely hilarious had me pissing myself in some scenes which I haven't done for a while
somewhere between late 60s godard (lots of 4th wall, reading lines from books, title cards, manic editing) and hard days night / goodies (more diagnoses hal hartley if anything, really)
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Post by: bgmnts on March 14, 2018, 01:07:07 AM
Rewatched St Elmo's Fire again.

As someone who longed for the group of friends university experience and a general love of brat pack era bollocks, this is such a disappointment all round.

Bar that one song, thats glorious.

PS does it make me gay that i want to spoon 1980s Rob Lowe?
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 14, 2018, 01:09:05 AM
de palma's greetings
genuinely hilarious had me pissing myself in some scenes which I haven't done for a while
somewhere between late 60s godard (lots of 4th wall, reading lines from books, title cards, manic editing) and hard days night / goodies (more diagnoses hal hartley if anything, really)

have you seen 'Hi Mom!'
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 14, 2018, 01:26:34 AM
have you seen 'Hi Mom!'
that ones up next!
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Post by: zomgmouse on March 14, 2018, 03:52:15 AM
Re De Palma give Blow Out a go if you haven't seen it.

Also, mentioned it t'other day, but Road Games (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083000/) starring Stacy Keach is kinda similar.  Think I found that one off the back of an Ozploitation documentary.

Roadgames is amazing! Yes!

Another great lean thriller of sorts is Plunder Road, an obscure B-noir. Short and bitter.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 14, 2018, 01:55:42 PM
Susan slept here
I thought this would be lesser Tashlin but it really isn’t
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 14, 2018, 02:00:08 PM
PS does it make me gay that i want to spoon 1980s Rob Lowe?

No.  If Youngblood made you want to do that, different matter entirely.


Most of the Brat Pack flicks aren't that good when you watch them back, but I would say St Elmos Fire has probably come off the worst, at least of the proper Brat Pack flicks.
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Post by: Dr Rock on March 14, 2018, 04:43:34 PM
Every Brat Pack movie is shit (unless you count The Outsiders and Rumblefish) except Breakfast Club which is still ace.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 14, 2018, 04:50:46 PM
unless you count The Outsiders and Rumblefish

You pretty much have to, otherwise there's not that much left.

It's basically only Elmos Fire and Breakfast Club that are proper Brat Pack films.  All the rest only feature one or two of the same group.  There's a bit of a Mandela effect with them.
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Post by: Dr Rock on March 14, 2018, 04:59:19 PM
There's a lot of them in that Western they did. I'm assuming it was called Young Guns, could be wrong.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 14, 2018, 05:03:34 PM
What a horrible name “bratpack” was
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 14, 2018, 06:01:06 PM
There's a lot of them in that Western they did. I'm assuming it was called Young Guns, could be wrong.

Only Estevez.  Charlie Sheen and Kiefer Sutherland were never considered as officially part of the group, merely, basically, "acting mates", and Dermot Mulroney and Casey Siemaszko were too "proper actors" to be included - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brat_Pack_(actors) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brat_Pack_(actors))
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Post by: Z on March 14, 2018, 09:05:37 PM
Celine and Julie Go Boating
Liked the beginning a lot, then my attention wavered for a while before it won me back. Overall pretty great, I think I prefer Out 1 for just how unique and utterly mad of a thing it is but I'd say this is a much better entry point. If you like one, you'll probably like the other.
Some really funny moments, some legitimately creepy ones too.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 15, 2018, 12:51:47 AM
Compliance (2012) has really sunk me. I read about the case ages ago but seeing it actually play out in all its wilful stupidity and meanness ugh just squashed me into putty. People are so fucking awful. Similar psychological territory as the Stanford Prison experiment but much worse. Watched it last night and just went straight to bed, defeated. Not a bad film but I can't say I'd recommend it.

Top 5 difficult wank movies
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 15, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
have you seen 'Hi Mom!'
fucking hell this was even funnier

interested in seeing home movies (1980) next before i go into sisters / obsessions and later hitchcocks
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 15, 2018, 10:14:37 AM
the be black, baby tv scene were so good tbh
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Post by: greenman on March 15, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Watched Inherent Vice for the first time since the original release. I remember thinking back then that Paul Thomas Anderson's stately style seemed like a bit of a mismatch to the material but I enjoyed it a good deal more on second viewing, perhaps because the atmosphere/comedy was easier to pickup when your not trying to piece the plot together as much.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 15, 2018, 08:21:09 PM
the be black, baby tv scene were so good tbh

very possibly depalma's peak imo
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Post by: Phil_A on March 15, 2018, 09:23:06 PM
Compliance (2012) has really sunk me. I read about the case ages ago but seeing it actually play out in all its wilful stupidity and meanness ugh just squashed me into putty. People are so fucking awful. Similar psychological territory as the Stanford Prison experiment but much worse. Watched it last night and just went straight to bed, defeated. Not a bad film but I can't say I'd recommend it.

What makes it worse is that even though they eventually caught the guy responsible for this and possibly many other similar hoaxes, he was acquitted due to lack of evidence. He didn't even get so much as a fucking fine.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 16, 2018, 03:41:49 AM
very possibly depalma's peak imo
lotta leg youre going on there

it was almost night of the living deadesque
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 16, 2018, 03:43:24 AM
very possibly depalma's peak imo

Ah, DePalma's Peak; the lesser known sequel to Dante's Peak.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 16, 2018, 11:31:16 AM
lotta leg youre going on there

it was almost night of the living deadesque

i just like the abrasive Godardian quality of it. it suggests a whole other direction depalma could have gone in
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 16, 2018, 11:45:17 AM
He’s only the filmmaker Robert Downey Senior could have been
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 16, 2018, 12:16:03 PM
Decided to begin a bit of a Scorsese season at Chez Custard

Fired up Mean Streets last night

*Limmy voice* Fuckin' yasss, man *Limmy voice*

The ending always leaves me a tiny bit unsatisfied, as I wish the film went on for another hour to see what happens in the aftermath, but it's still a fucking brilliant two hours. One of Scorsese's tightest, I think, with little to no flab on it

Had never twigged til now that the bar drunk is David Carradine!

Keitel and De Niro had awesome chemistry, and you can't tear your eyes away each time they share a screen. I wonder how much of their dialogue/interaction was improvised, as they seem to constantly be surprising and cracking each other up

What a beauty. A proper great film

Might go for Raging Bull next. Been years since I've seen it
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Post by: Gregory Torso on March 17, 2018, 08:43:35 AM
I haven't seen Mean Streets for years. I remember having a massive argument with a friend once about whether or not Deniro dies at the end. I said he didn't but I can't remember now if I was right or not.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 17, 2018, 10:07:29 AM
I haven't seen Mean Streets for years. I remember having a massive argument with a friend once about whether or not Deniro dies at the end. I said he didn't but I can't remember now if I was right or not.

Ah, but did DeNiro die at the end of Taxi Driver?  It's an interesting theory.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 17, 2018, 10:51:54 AM
Mean Streets SPOILERZ ahead

De Niro doesn't cark it on screen, but appears to have been shot in the neck and is pissing out blood. He staggers off into the night, as Keitel worries about his (also still alive) lady friend

Fin.

So I guess we'll never know. But I'd guess he survived, and there's ten late sequels coming. A Mean Streets Universe. The MSU

Watched Raging Bull (1980) last night. Another beauty. Insanely great performance from De Niro

The boxing scenes are a bit rubbish, mind. Has Hollywood ever managed realistic boxing?

Again, the film has little to no excess or flab, and it absolutely rattles along. One great scene after the next

Scorsese really has a thing for Pesci and Frank Vincent trying to kill each other, doesn't he? Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino. Three rounds

Thinking Taxi Driver or New York, New York next. Don't wanna blow through all the great ones too quickly, as I plan to watch the lot, and before I know it I'll be slogging through The Age Of Innocence. I really didn't like The Age Of Innocence.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 17, 2018, 11:03:53 AM
The boxing scenes are a bit rubbish, mind.

I've heard it all now!
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 17, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
They are though! Not realistic or natural at all. One fighter keeps his arms down by his side, as the other punches him square in the face.

Maybe it's a really hard thing to pull off, realistic boxing, I dunno

Genuinely trying to think of one film that has done it well
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 17, 2018, 11:23:37 AM
The boxing scene in gummo
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Post by: Z on March 17, 2018, 11:28:47 AM
Thinking Taxi Driver or New York, New York next. Don't wanna blow through all the great ones too quickly
New York New York it is, so!

Ah, but did DeNiro die at the end of Taxi Driver?  It's an interesting theory.
I never even considered that option, what does that add that fits better than accepting it all as is?

The boxing scenes are a bit rubbish, mind. Has Hollywood ever managed realistic boxing?
Unsure if you're joking but in case you're not, they're stylised to replicate boxing photos from the period that you'd have in newspapers more than actual matches. So it's a lot more about trying to pile in images of that one shot that very clearly says "this guy won"

Thought it was shite myself, but The Fighter has pretty realistic boxing scenes iirc.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 17, 2018, 12:10:44 PM
Ah interesting, didn't know that about replicating pictures, thanks

But there is plenty of boxing action. And it's a bit, well, rubs. Very stagey, and unnatural. It reminded me a bit of wrestling. One bloke leaving his head open, for the other bloke to punch with no opposition. Just looks strange and unnatural

Small gripe really, as it's a fucking dynamite film

Oh, and I love New York, New York! Very underrated!
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 17, 2018, 12:30:34 PM
I never even considered that option, what does that add that fits better than accepting it all as is?

The idea is that Travis being lauded as a hero and having Betsy fawn over him, are a part of his dying dreams and a complete fantasy.
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Post by: Z on March 17, 2018, 12:48:47 PM
The idea is that Travis being lauded as a hero and having Betsy fawn over him, are a part of his dying dreams.
Yeah, I mean, I get it, I don't get why anyone would want that to be the context of the ending.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 17, 2018, 12:59:47 PM
The 'dream ending' theory also takes away the power from the final sequence where he looks sharply into his rear view mirror, suggesting that he's still a coiled ball of paranoia and rage and has found no kind of redemption at all. I prefer it as a hollow victory rather than a dream. Especially with the veiled threat in the letter "we have taken measures to make sure she never does this again" or something like that
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 17, 2018, 01:18:24 PM
Yeah, I mean, I get it, I don't get why anyone would want that to be the context of the ending.

I don't personally choice to interpret the ending that way.  I just find it to be an interesting theory.

The 'dream ending' theory also takes away the power from the final sequence where he looks sharply into his rear view mirror, suggesting that he's still a coiled ball of paranoia and rage and has found no kind of redemption at all.

Indeed.  That's always been the main chink in that particular theory's armour.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 17, 2018, 01:20:07 PM
Raging Bull has no excess or flab?? Did you see DeNiro??

Fat cunt.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on March 17, 2018, 03:05:26 PM
The 'dream ending' theory also takes away the power from the final sequence where he looks sharply into his rear view mirror, suggesting that he's still a coiled ball of paranoia and rage and has found no kind of redemption at all. I prefer it as a hollow victory rather than a dream. Especially with the veiled threat in the letter "we have taken measures to make sure she never does this again" or something like that

I agree, the dream ending theory dilutes the film. Has Scorsese ever commented on it?

What do we think about the dream ending theory attached to The King Of Comedy? I think the cold, cynical, prescient power of the film is heightened if we take Pupkin's post-prison stardom at face value. He's not a very good comedian, he's a disturbing sociopath who achieves undeserved fame. He does this, not through talent and effort, but by committing a high-profile criminal act. When he smirks into the camera at the very end, he appears to be saying to the audience "YOU did this. You made me. I won."

Isn't the whole point of the film that becoming famous for being famous is a hollow victory and a damning indictment of society?

However, Pupkin's fantasies throughout the film are never depicted in a surreal or dreamlike manner. They co-exist with the reality presented in the rest of the film, just as they do in Pupkin's head. The epilogue could be another example of that technique, but I don't think Pupkin becoming briefly notorious before being imprisoned and fading into obscurity has as much punch as the literal interpretation.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 17, 2018, 03:40:48 PM
However, Pupkin's fantasies throughout the film are never depicted in a surreal or dreamlike manner. They co-exist with the reality presented in the rest of the film, just as they do in Pupkin's head. The epilogue could be another example of that technique, but I don't think Pupkin becoming briefly notorious before being imprisoned and fading into obscurity has as much punch as the literal interpretation.

Actually, I think that the ending absolutely has a surreal and dreamlike quality to it.  I've always interpreted it as being a fantasy in Pupkin's mind.
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Post by: greenman on March 17, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
They are though! Not realistic or natural at all. One fighter keeps his arms down by his side, as the other punches him square in the face.

Maybe it's a really hard thing to pull off, realistic boxing, I dunno

Genuinely trying to think of one film that has done it well

..are they intended to be natural though? I think the boxing scenes have a clear operatic quality to them rather than a desire for total realism.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 17, 2018, 04:42:38 PM
I agree, the dream ending theory dilutes the film. Has Scorsese ever commented on it?

Had a quick gander at Wikipedia and it would seem that Scorsese doesn't unequivocally rule it out (although a 'dream' does not seem to have been his intention), whereas Schrader does:

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On the Laserdisc audio commentary, Scorsese acknowledged several critics' interpretation of the film's ending as being Bickle's dying dream. He admits that the last scene of Bickle glancing at an unseen object implies that Bickle might fall into rage and recklessness in the future, and he is like "a ticking time bomb".[35] Writer Paul Schrader confirms this in his commentary on the 30th-anniversary DVD, stating that Travis "is not cured by the movie's end", and that "he's not going to be a hero next time."[36] When asked on the website Reddit about the film's ending, Schrader said that it was not to be taken as a dream sequence, but that he envisioned it as returning to the beginning of the film—as if the last frame "could be spliced to the first frame, and the movie started all over again."[37]
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on March 17, 2018, 05:17:35 PM
Actually, I think that the ending absolutely has a surreal and dreamlike quality to it.  I've always interpreted it as being a fantasy in Pupkin's mind.

You're right, the ending does come across as disconcertingly artificial. The incessant torrents of  laughter echo the earlier fantasy scene in which Pupkin performs his routine in front of a huge diorama of an appreciative audience.

I do like the ambiguity of that ending - it's probably is all in his head, but we can't be certain - but I personally prefer to think of it as a literal depiction of what actually happened to Pupkin. It has more bite.

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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on March 17, 2018, 05:18:20 PM
Had a quick gander at Wikipedia and it would seem that Scorsese doesn't unequivocally rule it out (although a 'dream' does not seem to have been his intention), whereas Schrader does:

Interesting, ta.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 17, 2018, 05:27:41 PM
..are they intended to be natural though? I think the boxing scenes have a clear operatic quality to them rather than a desire for total realism.

This is my thought on the matter too.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 18, 2018, 12:36:03 AM
Needed a daft film to zone out to so stuck on Eraser.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 18, 2018, 12:42:44 AM
Eraser is Arnie's worst, for me.

And i fucking love Arnie.
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Post by: zomgmouse on March 18, 2018, 01:54:04 AM
If you're doing a Scorsese fest don't miss After Hours!
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 18, 2018, 02:21:18 AM
Eraser is Arnie's worst, for me.

And i fucking love Arnie.

I've yet to watch Eraser but I did recently watch End of Days and other than Arnie being woefully miscast as a down on his luck, depressed, alcoholic and suicidal detective (whom somehow must still have the motivation and time to spend hours down the gym everyday), it's actually rather enjoyable.  It has a terrible reputation, so I was pleasantly surprised.  Who knows?  Perhaps I'll enjoy Eraser too.  I doubt it though.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 18, 2018, 02:25:10 AM
I've yet to watch Eraser but I did recently watch End of Days and other than Arnie being woefully miscast as a down on his luck, depressed, alcoholic and suicidal detective (whom somehow must still have the motivation and time to spend hours down the gym everyday), it's actually rather enjoyable.  It has a terrible reputation, so I was pleasantly surprised.  Who knows?  Perhaps I'll enjoy Eraser too.  I doubt it though.

Yeah End of Days is pretty good.

Gabriel Byrne was on the wank fest that inside the cunt studio and patronisingly mentioned that Arnie was always into the craft and trying to get better at acting. I think it shows in thst film

Although i prefer arn as the one liner action hero.
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Post by: greenman on March 18, 2018, 05:57:17 AM
I've yet to watch Eraser but I did recently watch End of Days and other than Arnie being woefully miscast as a down on his luck, depressed, alcoholic and suicidal detective (whom somehow must still have the motivation and time to spend hours down the gym everyday), it's actually rather enjoyable.  It has a terrible reputation, so I was pleasantly surprised.  Who knows?  Perhaps I'll enjoy Eraser too.  I doubt it though.

I wouldn't say its THAT bad(bar the CGI crocodiles), but it does end up feeling very much what it was, the last ebb of the 80's style actioner.

End of Days surely deserves a mention in the protagonist with a ridiculas name thread with Jericho Cane.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 18, 2018, 06:13:23 AM
End of Days surely deserves a mention in the protagonist with a ridiculas name thread with Jericho Cane.

Ha, yeah.  The name Jericho Cane sounds like a character from Tekken or Mortal Kombat"Jericho Cane Wins".  It also sounds like Jerry Cocaine, if you say it fast enough.
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Post by: Blumf on March 18, 2018, 10:36:12 AM
I'd rate Eraser over The 6th Day. They're both enjoyable fluff though.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 19, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
children of nature (1991)
sweet, slightly sentimental old age story. every so often the music would go full on arvo part and Frioriksson would ramp up the tarkovskyisms
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Post by: SavageHedgehog on March 19, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
I found End of Days insulting at the time, but for whatever reason picked up the DVD from a bargain bin about five years ago and bloody loved the daft thing and have watched it more than once since. I particularly love the causality with which Satan (in the form of the camera) sneaks up in the lavy to possess Gabriel Byrne.

Eraser is a film I've seen a few times, always expecting to suddenly love it but I never quite do. It's fun but the actual plot is a bit of a drag.
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Post by: magval on March 19, 2018, 10:58:29 PM
I found End of Days insulting at the time, but for whatever reason picked up the DVD from a bargain bin about five years ago and bloody loved the daft thing and have watched it more than once since. I particularly love the causality with which Satan (in the form of the camera) sneaks up in the lavy to possess Gabriel Byrne.


Me and a few schoolmates bugged Byrne when we discovered he was in attendance of a play we'd traveled down to Dublin to see (cheers, A-Level English department!) and I had him sign my ticket while I told him how much I liked him in this. Not Usual Suspects or any of the good things he was in like. Fuck all those films. Sure in End of Days he punches through a man's head.

As I remember it, Arnold is very impressive in that film as a depressed alcoholic. He'd kind of run out of big silly blockbusters at that stage and was giving real acting a go, wasn't he? Was very good in Maggie, years later, as well. I don't mean to discount his performances in his earlier films, especially The Terminator - he was a brilliant presence on screen, despite the 'flaws' (his accent chief among them). But to see him acting, proper acting, was class altogether.

I wonder if that holds up?
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 20, 2018, 12:33:16 AM
I wonder if that holds up?

He does give a decent performance but as I mentioned earlier, his beefed-up body is completely wrong for the character.  To use one of his former co-stars as an example, it needed to be more of a Michael Biehn type.
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Post by: SavageHedgehog on March 20, 2018, 07:01:45 AM
I didn't see Maggie but I did think he was good in Aftermath. That's a strange film because it might have got more attention with a more conventional dramatic lead, but the context of his most famous films adds to it a certain meta poignancy which, for me at least, makes it more memorable than it otherwise might have been.
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Post by: magval on March 20, 2018, 12:59:04 PM
Another movie I wanted to see and completely forgot about. I'm away to see if I can find it here.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on March 20, 2018, 01:46:31 PM
Future Hunters

Guy in post-apocalyptic 2024 grabs the Spear of Destiny, transports him back to 1989, then the rest of the film feels like that bit at the end of Blazing Saddles where they crash through different film sets, only serious and not as good.
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Post by: Large Noise on March 20, 2018, 04:34:10 PM
A Scanner Darkly

Pretty good, sticks closely to the novel. Thought they made Donna and Bob's relationship closer than it seemed in the book, in part because they eliminate the age difference. Robert Downey Jr is good as Barris, and I think they scripted that character well, really brought out his annoying side.

Was struck by Rory Cochrane as Charles Freck, really put me in mind of Heath Ledger's Joker. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere as an influence, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 20, 2018, 04:39:38 PM
The Travelling Players
Very pretty
Took a nap halfway through because my arse and eyes were straining
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on March 20, 2018, 06:06:42 PM
A Scanner Darkly

Pretty good, sticks closely to the novel. Thought they made Donna and Bob's relationship closer than it seemed in the book, in part because they eliminate the age difference. Robert Downey Jr is good as Barris, and I think they scripted that character well, really brought out his annoying side.

Was struck by Rory Cochrane as Charles Freck, really put me in mind of Heath Ledger's Joker. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere as an influence, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

I saw this at the cinema when it came out and remembered enjoying it (a lot more than I did Linklater's other rotoscoped film Waking Life), but remember absolutely nothing about it.  Really must see it again.


I've had a bit of a binge on East Asian films over the last couple of weeks...

Ann Hui's The Story of Wu (or Woo) Viet, AKA God of Killers (the first title is more apposite), which is the second part of her Vietnam trilogy.  By far the worst of Hui's films that I've seen, mixing the same grit and grime with a spotlight on how poorly treated immigrants were by the authorities as explored in the excellent Boat People (the third part of the trilogy), with a very ropey and poorly executed romantic sub-plot, and a strip-club filled with midgets and dwarfs providing ill-advised comic relief.  And an East Asian man called Miguel.  Chow Yun Fat is good value as per normal, but the rest is a patchy affair indeed.  It doesn't help that every version available with English subtitles appears to come from the same rip of a VHS recording of a laserdisc.

Wong Jing(the immensely popular Hong Kong director that everyone hates)'s Evil Cult, AKA Kung Fu Cult Master, and High Risk, AKA Meltdown, both starring Jet Li.  I'm not as down on Jing as a lot of people - I don't mind admitting I love City Hunter and Last Hero In China - but I was left with the same feeling after watching these as, I suspect, most people are after watching any of his films that aren't God of Gamblers, or his subsequent collaborations with Stephen Chow.  Evil Cult has some great fight sequences (although a lot of them feature the dreaded wire work), but suffers from an incredibly confusing story (which might be down to the translation of the dialogue), some REALLY cheap effects and a bit of "hahahahaaaaa - RAPE!" (which not as many HK films feature as most people think).  Similarly, High Risk has some great set pieces, mixing martial arts and gunplay, but with more el-cheapo moments and "comedy", which rarely travels well to the West.

Duel to the Death, one of the great HK swordplay films, let down a tad by a tight running time (it feels like it should be an epic 3 hour drama, but as it is it's only just over 80mins long, with many of the dramatic scenes feeling rushed) and a really shit "surprise" with one of the main characters.  But, otherwise, some exemplary swordplay going on.

Kinji Fukusaku's New Battles Without Honor trilogy (comprising New Battles Without Honor, The Boss's Head and Last Days of the Boss).  As with Fukusaku's original 5-film series, this trilogy stars Bunta Sugawara again but, unlike the original, is comprised of three stand-alone films which are also a bit more light-hearted.  It goes without saying that this trilogy is nowhere near in the same league as the original saga (rightly seen as Japan's answer to The Godfather), but there's still a lot to enjoy, and they retain Fukusaku's gritty shakey-cam documentary look.

I've also watched a few versions of the 47 Ronin story, but I have three left to watch so I thought I'd chuck 'em in here when I'd seen all of them and do a little comparison, or start a separate thread entirely.
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Post by: zomgmouse on March 22, 2018, 05:41:00 AM
Peeping Tom. Finally got to tick this one off my list. Predictably incredible. Crammed full of more symbolism you can poke a camera stick at. Awesome use of colour, too.

10 Rillington Place. Amazingly chilling and unsettling, especially after having read the book. Attenborough is astonishingly horrid here.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 22, 2018, 08:09:06 AM
The version with Tim Roth is pretty solid, too. He's creepy as fuck, and it's ridiculously grim. Mrs Custard had nightmares for days afterwards
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 22, 2018, 10:29:21 AM
Peeping Tom. Finally got to tick this one off my list. Predictably incredible. Crammed full of more symbolism you can poke a camera stick at. Awesome use of colour, too.

My Dad introduced me to that film as a teenager.  It's great.  I definitively agree with your assessment on the use of colour in the film; incredibly rich and vivid.  There's no justice in this world, in regards to what it did to Michael Powell's reputation and career at the time.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 22, 2018, 09:26:15 PM
Home sick today, finished off missing Alien series. Had only seen Alien and Promethius before.

Aliens- I think this is the one everyone said was the bad one I reckon.

Alien 3 no, maybe this is the bad one

Alien Resurrection oh fuck, I owe the last 2 a rewatch now

Alien Covenant pretty standard stuff
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 23, 2018, 09:22:37 AM
Aliens- I think this is the one everyone said was the bad one I reckon.

What planetoid are you living on, sunshine?  LV-426?
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Post by: bgmnts on March 23, 2018, 07:46:07 PM
Aliens is the best in the series. Anyone who says otherwise can suck Ridley Scott's cock all they want.

Day of the Jackal.

Went on a bit too long but a pretty good film. Thought the culmination of 2 and a half hours of build up was a bit wank though.

HOWEVER, I will give the film mega credit for not having the actors doing pointless French accents, something which the next film i'm watching, Schlinders List, fails to do.

Either let the actors do their normal voice or do it in the correct dialogue.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 23, 2018, 11:29:14 PM
Aliens suffered from some bad dialog and Paul Rieser.

I liked A3 better, more tension and better supporting acting.
Was the prison doctor character a synthetic?

Needs to be a film about what became of Jonesy after Aliens.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 24, 2018, 01:32:51 AM
Miss Violence (2013)

Fuck me, this was hard going. One of the grimmest, bleakest things I've ever sat through

It centres on a family with clear issues from the outset. As the film progresses, you find out just how fucked up it all is. A really tough watch

'orrible

4 dollops of ice cream
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on March 24, 2018, 02:42:01 AM
Aliens suffered from some bad dialog and Paul Rieser.
You're wrong sir wrong I say

I just watched Future-Kill, part of my "watch every movie that starts with the word Future" film review series. It's like The Warriors if all the gangs were crap New Romantics, and the Warriors were a bunch of wankers you wanted to see die, and the main villain was a cross between MF Doom and Freddy Krueger.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 24, 2018, 02:50:52 AM
I liked A3 better...

I'm with you on this.  I hope that you watched the assembly cut of Alien 3.  It's a significant improvement on the theatrical version.


Was the prison doctor character a synthetic?

No.  What led you to believe that he might have been?

Needs to be a film about what became of Jonesy after Aliens.

They'd have to recast because the actor whom portrayed Jonesy has since passed away and I'm not convinced that a new actor could do the role justice.
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Post by: Z on March 24, 2018, 02:58:25 AM
Not a huge fan of alien but when i finally saw Aliens last year I was super underwhelmed. It was probably a lot more impressive in 1986 when James Cameron had yet to deal with proper huge budgets and the genre hadn't yet experienced most its peaks.


The Devils
Probably the best version of a kind of film I don't give a fuck about

the Shape of Water
Michael Shannon was having a lot of fun as the cartoon baddie, everything else was faintly annoying. Octavia Spencer's character was terrible.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 24, 2018, 09:50:00 AM


No.  What led you to believe that he might have been?
 

The others all had an important synthetic character. He had a secret about his reason to be there. I suppose it was still Bishop in A3.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 24, 2018, 10:44:20 AM
The others all had an important synthetic character. He had a secret about his reason to be there.

Yes but we later learn what his secret reason for being there was (the manslaughter of eleven patients, due to being drunk and his addition to morphine).
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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 24, 2018, 10:50:15 AM
Yes but we later learn what his secret reason for being there was (the manslaughter of eleven patients, due to being drunk and his addition to morphine).

I forgot about The Young Doctor's Notebook twist there. A lot of Alien universe for one day.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 24, 2018, 02:34:31 PM
Human Remains (1998), loved the use of exterior sound in this

Water and Power (1989), the most film Film

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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 24, 2018, 02:48:03 PM
I think Alien 3 is better than the general consensus, but I think that's a fairly common held view innit?
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 24, 2018, 03:19:50 PM
I think Alien 3 is better than the general consensus, but I think that's a fairly common held view innit?

Increasingly so, yes.  The assembly cut certainly helped matters and the ever-diminishing returns of quality in regards to the sequels which followed, certainly didn't hurt its reputation.  Alien 3 is one of my favourite horror films.  I consider it to be the true sequel to Alien, in terms of tone and atmosphere.  Aliens is a great action movie but it doesn't really jive with the cold, heartless universe of the original film.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 24, 2018, 03:40:48 PM
never seen any alien but i bet aliens would be my favourite alien
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Post by: Z on March 24, 2018, 09:36:01 PM
never seen any alien but i bet aliens would be my favourite alien
I thought that and was incredibly wrong.



Downsizing
Very much a "what on earth were they thinking?" kind of film. Criticisms that it needed a script editor seem inaccurate though, there's aspects that oddly work well, and the somewhat boring diddering about is part of that, the use of really flat niceness instead of humour is part of that too. It kind of gets its message across well on an emotional level but not quite entirely.
I think I kinda liked it, but I also thought it was a big bag of shite.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on March 24, 2018, 10:30:19 PM
I thought that and was incredibly wrong.



Downsizing
Very much a "what on earth were they thinking?" kind of film. Criticisms that it needed a script editor seem inaccurate though, there's aspects that oddly work well, and the somewhat boring diddering about is part of that, the use of really flat niceness instead of humour is part of that too. It kind of gets its message across well on an emotional level but not quite entirely.
I think I kinda liked it, but I also thought it was a big bag of shite.

I know what you mean, it's by no means a great film but I felt the same way about it, and even it's not entirely successful I thought the critics were way too harsh about it. My only complaint is that Kristen Wiig's not in it much when the trailer makes her out to be a big part of proceedings.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 24, 2018, 11:25:17 PM
About to rewatch Predator 2.


I love Bill Paxton. His death hit me so much harder than anyone else's this decade by a mile.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 25, 2018, 05:32:14 AM
About to rewatch Predator 2.

I must say that I'm rather fond of Predator 2.  I can't fathom why, generally speaking; it has a bad reputation.  It's not as good as its predecessor but its still a thoroughly entertaining flick and a worthy sequel, in my estimation at least.

never seen any alien but i bet aliens would be my favourite alien

Aliens has many an alien.  Alien has a single alien.  Does that make it better?  Probably.  Actually, no but possibly.  It all depends upon how many aliens you want for your buck.
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 25, 2018, 05:36:31 AM
EDIT: Alien gone done stitched me up, son.  Ooohhh, my once beautiful, award winning face!  It's been decimated by a jaw within a jaw.  Ouch!  That stings and make no mistake.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 25, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Rewatched Rita Sue and Bob at like 4 in morning last night
Don’t think I appreciated just how much truth and honesty are in this on first viewing
It’s got really long takes of people walking ebb and flow and handhelds in peoples faces so it’s Clarke
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Post by: Z on March 25, 2018, 12:44:59 PM
Alan Patridge : Alpha Papa
Finally got around to this, was a lot funnier than I expected tbh. If there was one thing I'd criticise it would be that there's some extremely funny bits that could have been dwelled upon longer and more effectively by the director at the expense of some less funny moments. It's as though they were unaware they had the time to let things linger


I know what you mean, it's by no means a great film but I felt the same way about it, and even it's not entirely successful I thought the critics were way too harsh about it. My only complaint is that Kristen Wiig's not in it much when the trailer makes her out to be a big part of proceedings.
I think it's a film that's very easy to criticise as being some straight ahead environmentalism bore.

If it weren't by a name like Alexander Payne and didn't cost as much, I'd imagine an absolutely huge chunk of the slightly negative reviews would have been slightly positive (which has a drastic effect on rotten tomatoes)
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Post by: Dex Sawash on March 26, 2018, 03:01:33 AM
Cotton Comes to Harlem blaxploitation I've seen parts of a lot on tv in 70s.  Saw it all tonight. Crooked preacher steals money intended to arrange transport for parishioners to go back to africa. Problematic scenes include one where cops pacify a crowd of black people on verge of a riot by releasing a few crates of live chickens. Raymond St Jacques is outstanding in this film.
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Post by: phantom_power on March 29, 2018, 12:06:51 AM
I noticed there are quite a few Jarmusch films on Amazon Prime and I like the couple of films of his I have seen so I thought I would work through them in order. First up was Permanent Vacation, which was a bit of a struggle. Looking forward to Stranger Than Paradise though
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 29, 2018, 07:53:01 AM
Round 3 of my Scorsese season was only blinkin' The King Of Comedy (1982)

It was discussed in this thread last week, so I won't faff on more about it, but yeah, it's well good innit

Sandra Bernhard is excellent and funny as fuck, Jerry Lewis is great, and De Niro is, well, prime De Niro. How did he ever go from this to Bad Grandpa?

Next may be.....CaB favourite......AFTER HOURS

OOOOOOHHHHH!
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 29, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
police adjective
dated and frankly not funny
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 29, 2018, 04:04:51 PM
Bhuvan Shome
dated and not funny
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 29, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
Le Dernier Combat by Luc Besson
Pretty cool. It worked. It does add up to something oddly moving.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 29, 2018, 09:52:14 PM
I know the series revels in its absurdity and lack of logic and sense but why did Kyle Reese neglect to mention a reprogrammed Terminator was sent back to a different time, before they blew the time machine up?

How would he not know that?
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Post by: St_Eddie on March 29, 2018, 10:09:02 PM
...why did Kyle Reese neglect to mention a reprogrammed Terminator was sent back to a different time, before they blew the time machine up?

Because no one ever bothered to ask him.

SERIOUS ANSWER:  It's really just the usual plot-hole/paradox issues, encountered when writing stories about time travel.  However, a decent enough explanation would be that the second terminator came from a divergent timeline.  Messing around with time travel is bound to create multiple timelines and parallel universes.  Kyle Reese came from timeline A.  Arnie and the T-1000 in T2 came from timeline B.
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Post by: Dr Rock on March 29, 2018, 11:26:53 PM
Round 3 of my Scorsese season was only blinkin' The King Of Comedy (1982)

It was discussed in this thread last week, so I won't faff on more about it, but yeah, it's well good innit

Sandra Bernhard is excellent and funny as fuck, Jerry Lewis is great, and De Niro is, well, prime De Niro. How did he ever go from this to Bad Grandpa?

Next may be.....CaB favourite......AFTER HOURS

OOOOOOHHHHH!

I'd love too be able to see The King Of Comedy for the first time and then move onto After Hours...
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Post by: bgmnts on March 29, 2018, 11:29:59 PM
Because no one ever bothered to ask him.

SERIOUS ANSWER:  It's really just the usual plot-hole/paradox issues, encountered when writing stories about time travel.  However, a decent enough explanation would be that the second terminator came from a divergent timeline.  Messing around with time travel is bound to create multiple timelines and parallel universes.  Kyle Reese came from timeline A.  Arnie and the T-1000 in T2 came from timeline B.

I think its explicitly stated at the start of T2 that they sent two (Reese and Arnie and Poly Olly Alloy and Arnie) back. Meaning they were both part of the same time travel and from the same timeline.

I think it'd make more sense if Reese did know he just forgot or didnt bother mentioning it. Its like Obi Wan forgetting who R2D2 is in A New Hope.
Its Mortal Kombat levels of stupidity.
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Post by: Steven on March 29, 2018, 11:30:16 PM
SERIOUS ANSWER:  It's really just the usual plot-hole/paradox issues, encountered when writing stories about time travel.  However, a decent enough explanation would be that the second terminator came from a divergent timeline.  Messing around with time travel is bound to create multiple timelines and parallel universes.  Kyle Reese came from timeline A.  Arnie and the T-1000 in T2 came from timeline B.

It's not as bad as Kyle Reese being contemporaneous with John Conner in the future, but goes back in time and turns out to be his Dad. That doesn't make any sense even in a divergent timeline, it's a paradox, pure and simple.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 29, 2018, 11:45:46 PM
Alright Kyle, seeing as you're my best mate I want to send you back in time to pump my mum.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 29, 2018, 11:47:56 PM
The sad fact about The Terminator 'franchise' is that now, through its series of diminishing returns as a whole it's worse than Timecop.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on March 30, 2018, 01:33:31 AM
La vie est un roman by Alain Resnais
Loved it. I really like the unashamed theatricality. The sets were mind-blowingly amazing too. A totally glorious 'throwing everything at the wall' film.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 30, 2018, 01:45:47 AM
ive been interested in seeing Resnais' Dennis Potter musicals for a while now
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Post by: Shameless Custard on March 30, 2018, 06:37:57 PM
I'd love too be able to see The King Of Comedy for the first time and then move onto After Hours...

Oh no, I've seen both before! Most Scorsese fillums, in fact. I just decided to have a bit of a "season" and an extensive rewatch. Something I've been meaning to do for a while, as he's very possibly my favourite director
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Post by: bgmnts on March 30, 2018, 07:08:36 PM
Finally getting around to watching Vertigo and Rear Window.


Jimmy Stewart has the coolest voice in the history of cinema I think.


Just finished Vertigo, went on longer than i expected and the last 20 seconds had me howling with laughter, i'm sorry to say.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 31, 2018, 01:35:31 PM
Whispering Pages
seen this type of film done better by even Sokurov himself the sound design was demented tho

Asthenic Syndrome
the first part was great, but that just turned out be a film-within-a-film that was being projected at a cinema. The director, to no avail, tries to get the audience to question him about his important work of cinema and starts rattling off names like German, Sokurov and indeed the director of Asthenic Syndrome to the uncaring audience - "why do we go to films like this? i want to be happy when i go to the cinema; im already sad enough. i dont want to see a woman bury her husband and descend into a frenzy!" says one audience member upon leaving the screening
i turned it off after that and went to bed ill finish it later
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Post by: Z on March 31, 2018, 10:58:28 PM
The Light of the Moon
Took a while to adjust to seeing Stephanie Beatriz actually acting as a real human being but she's pretty good, Brooklyn Nine-Nine does her a bit of a misservice by putting her in the Aubrey Plaza role.
Film is more or less what you'd expect it to be; manages to avoid doing any major missteps along the way (e.g. laying in too hard on any particular person), which is a bit of an achievement in itself giving the subject matter but I'd be surprised if I remember anything about it in a few months beyond the basics of the plot.


Strong Island
Was okay, as far as documentaries about young black men who were unjustly murdered and then their killers got away with it goes, I wouldn't rate it among the better ones.
Extremely confusing how the narrator (a sibling of the victim) apparently started to identify as a trans man at some point during the production. From what I could gather, during the original production he identified as female/lesbian but by post production (so presumably that includes the narrated parts), he identified as a trans man/queer. Wasn't a deliberate move to make the film more about them than their brother but I was thrown.


The Snapper
Colm Meaney was game, there were a few bits of dialogue that were funny, but on the whole it was pretty underwhelming tbh, bit too much of the characters laughing more at their wisecracks than me.


Molly's Game
An Aaron Sorkin film
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on March 31, 2018, 10:59:45 PM
watched Breakdown with pappa before
we loved it
bless the fine lord that is mysterious truck films
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Post by: Gregory Torso on April 01, 2018, 04:30:33 AM
I watched Tobe Hooper's Space Cunts Lifeforce last night. Special FX still look really great, even the dessicated grandpa zombies. Some top nudity, as well. Storyline is a right load of old bollocks, although the ship in the comet's tail full of dead bat aliens was pretty creepy. Patrick Stewart gets soul kissed in a mental asylum.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 01, 2018, 09:12:48 PM
the hole 1998
oh so its dennis potter now
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Post by: bgmnts on April 01, 2018, 09:40:16 PM
Suicide Kings.
Always been a fan of this.

Walken and Johnny Galecki are great in it. Even Dennis Leary is quite funny.

Feel like it'd work better as a stageplay.
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Post by: bgmnts on April 01, 2018, 11:36:00 PM
The Dawn of the Dead remake, especially it's music video intro, is so bloody good. Maybe Zack Snyder was on some kind of superdrug when he filmed it. It's everything a fast paced action horror should be.

Michael Kelly is great in it. Really great.
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Post by: zomgmouse on April 02, 2018, 07:47:37 AM
Finally got round to finishing Abel Ferrara's Fear City. Really cool.
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Post by: SavageHedgehog on April 02, 2018, 01:58:37 PM
Watched Maggie, which was mentioned a few pages back, with my mum who had heart surgery recently and has quite a bit of empathy with Arnie and his current situation. Quite an interesting film; a fair amount of crossover in tone and imagery with Logan, which I haven't seen mentioned anywhere.
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Post by: greenman on April 02, 2018, 07:41:09 PM
Got though the whole of the directors cut of Once Upon A Time In America today for the first time in about a decade, if anything the mix of golden age Hollywood and violence/rape stood out more than I remember but I still think it works somehow. For all the pulpiness of its style I tend to think theres more weight there than most of the other heavy hitters in the gangster genre that get more caught up in glamourizing the specifics of criminality.

Has anyone seen the 4+ hour cut that came out a few years ago? worth seeking out?
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Post by: bgmnts on April 02, 2018, 08:25:53 PM
I dont think the cut i have is over 4 hours but its very fucking long.

The rape scene is pretty brutal.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 02, 2018, 08:49:46 PM
Has anyone seen the 4+ hour cut that came out a few years ago? worth seeking out?

Yes, I would say it is. Of the recently discovered scenes, there are several which significantly add to the overall dreamlike tone.
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Post by: bgmnts on April 02, 2018, 10:42:26 PM
I dont exactly know what it is but there is something about Chris Nolan films that comes across insufferably pretentious. This is no more evident than in the Batman trilogy he did. Rewatching them now, Dark Knight Rises is almost intolerable. Anne Hathaway in a cat suit and Tom Hardy makes it almost.

I actually prefer the Joel Schumacher Batmans.

Also i am about to rewatch my copy of Once Upon a Time in America as a result of this thread and my copy is 220 minutes long. I can't believe there is a longer version out there.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on April 02, 2018, 10:50:57 PM
I'm going through this thread at the moment: https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=62098.0, which led to Rita, Sue and Bob, Too last night, and What's Up, Doc? tonight. Barbara Streisland's shockingly likeable in the latter, a Peter Bogdanovich effort which made me laugh a great deal, especially as proceedings become increasingly ridiculous. The rest of the cast are great too (I've always a huge amount of time for Madeline Kahn and Kenneth Mars), and the sharp snappy script made it a pleasure to watch. 8.1/10
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Post by: BlodwynPig on April 02, 2018, 10:53:13 PM
The Dawn of the Dead remake, especially it's music video intro, is so bloody good. Maybe Zack Snyder was on some kind of superdrug when he filmed it. It's everything a fast paced action horror should be.

Michael Kelly is great in it. Really great.

is that the one with the end credits being über grisly compared to the film?
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Post by: bgmnts on April 02, 2018, 10:55:56 PM
is that the one with the end credits being über grisly compared to the film?

To be fair i think the film is grisly as is but yeah the end credits are pretty visceral.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 03, 2018, 02:39:15 AM
The Moon in the Gutter by Jean-Jacques Beineix
Ineffably gorgeous. The whole thing looks like a glossy magazine spread and almost every shot is a crane shot. Feels crazily, fussily precise but also kind of hollow at the same time. None of the characters feel lived in at all, just mannequins in a maze of coloured lights. Unlike someone like DePalma, the excessive style doesn't seem to hold any interesting frenzied preoccupations. Underrated though, I guess. Deserves a Blu-Ray restoration/reissue at the very least.
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Post by: bgmnts on April 03, 2018, 02:52:03 AM
Rewatching Hitman with Jet Li. Funny and with great kung fu action.

Random thought but  imagine if Bruce Lee was still alive say 20 years ago. You could have put him, Jet Li, Jackie Chan and Donnie Yen into Turtles costumes and have them fight goons for 90 minutes.

Perfect TMNT film.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 03, 2018, 02:52:13 AM
Isn't that all the trademarks of a du look film?
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 03, 2018, 03:18:42 AM
Isn't that all the trademarks of a du look film?

pretty much yeah. this is all that shit turned up to 11 though. it's the du look-iest i've ever seen
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Post by: Dex Sawash on April 03, 2018, 06:07:07 AM
Valerian and a lot of other words

Big and daft, unmistakably Besson. Not good but very entertaining.
8/10
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Post by: Fabian Thomsett on April 03, 2018, 10:30:48 PM
The Hit (1984)

A plot everyone's seen before - a couple of hitmen (John Hurt, Tim Roth) are hired to track down a supergrass (Terence Stamp) enjoying a nice retirement in Spain - but takes a turn towards existential road movie as it goes on. Sounds heavy, but there's a dry wit running through which stops it from becoming pretentious. Stamp and Hurt are tremendously good.
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Post by: Large Noise on April 04, 2018, 12:12:23 AM
Le Petit Soldat- The first Godard film I've seen. Obviously very stylish and all that, but it turned out to be more interesting than I thought it was going to be after the first 20 minutes or so. Watched it with someone who's trying to quit smoking, felt sorry for them.

Wind River- No Country for Old Men meets Dead Man's Shoes meets the snow level from Golden Eye on N64. Don't think this will live all that long in the memory, but an enjoyable watch.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 04, 2018, 01:47:11 AM
Three Crowns of the Sailor by Raúl Ruiz
Almost impossible to follow, but absolutely mesmerising in its best moments and one of the most visually inventive films I've ever seen. Pretty one of a kind.
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Post by: St_Eddie on April 04, 2018, 07:02:05 PM
I dont exactly know what it is but there is something about Chris Nolan films that comes across insufferably pretentious.

That's probably because they're insufferably pretentious.  Nolan is popcorn filmmaker.  There's nothing inherently wrong with that but the problem is that he makes popcorn movies, under the delusion that he's Stanley Kubrick.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on April 04, 2018, 09:30:37 PM
Didn't Kubrick make mainstream movies for large audiences too?
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Post by: zomgmouse on April 05, 2018, 07:11:28 AM
The Hit (1984)

A plot everyone's seen before - a couple of hitmen (John Hurt, Tim Roth) are hired to track down a supergrass (Terence Stamp) enjoying a nice retirement in Spain - but takes a turn towards existential road movie as it goes on. Sounds heavy, but there's a dry wit running through which stops it from becoming pretentious. Stamp and Hurt are tremendously good.

This is terrific and terrifically underrated and underseen. Frears needs to go back to doing these sorts of things instead of pumping out limp biopic after limp biopic. But also whatever makes him happy, I guess.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 05, 2018, 03:22:43 PM
Frears has somehow carved himself out a middlebrow niche
I wonder what his tv contemporaries like Leigh and Clarke would think about him now
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Post by: bgmnts on April 05, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
True Confessions.

Forgot how dull this was. I dont know how a film starring De Niro, Duvall, Durning and Meredith could be so dull but it is.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 05, 2018, 08:51:46 PM
Have a Nice Day. Good animated Chinese noir. Nice bit of eccentricity to it all.
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Post by: St_Eddie on April 05, 2018, 09:17:18 PM
Didn't Kubrick make mainstream movies for large audiences too?

No.  Don't ask me to expand on that because I can't.  That's because I'm a thick cunt.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on April 05, 2018, 09:29:27 PM
That's because I'm a thick cunt.
Well, you used "insufferably pretentious" when you meant "at least he didn't wait 12 years then make Eyes Wide Shut", so the jury's still out, I suppose.

Nolan is hated by internet film-people like he slept with their Mum, or owes them money, or both.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 06, 2018, 04:52:34 AM
One Deadly Summer by Jean Becker
A bit trashy, but I enjoyed it. Mainly for Isabelle Adjani's performance, as she is the best at going really convincingly mad in front of your eyes.

Ulysse by Agnès Varda
Lovely essay film in which Varda examines a photograph taken long ago, and how the subjects have changed since it was taken. At once joyful, melancholic, funny and inquisitive, it displays the personality that makes Varda such a treasure.

L'argent by Robert Bresson
Incredible, but uncompromisingly bleak. Counts as a final statement on the world from Bresson I guess, and it's one hell of a parting shot.

Vivement dimanche! by François Truffaut
Sort of by-the-numbers, but decorated with the finer details that make Truffaut's work eminently watchable. I've seen all his films now! Verdict: He never made a bad film. Some mediocre ones, sure. But never a bad one.
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Post by: JoeyBananaduck on April 06, 2018, 07:18:55 AM
Have any of you seen Fallen Angel from 1942? I watched it about 10 years ago when I was on a film noir binge and remember very little other than really enjoying it and that it was sumptuously shot. Pretty much any shot throughout you would hang on your wall. Gonna watch that again tonight.
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Post by: Enrico Palazzo on April 06, 2018, 09:23:23 AM
The People Under the Stairs
Wes Craven. Didn't think much of it but it was fun watching Ed and Nadine Hurley as the baddies.

(https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Stairs1-615x333.jpg)
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Post by: St_Eddie on April 06, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
The People Under the Stairs
Wes Craven. Didn't think much of it but it was fun watching Ed and Nadine Hurley as the baddies.

Aye, they're great in it.  Fun film.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 06, 2018, 06:12:32 PM
Watched that Morvern Callar last night. That was decent.
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Post by: Steven on April 06, 2018, 06:17:44 PM
Watched that Morvern Callar last night. That was decent.

I see what you did, there.
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Post by: BlodwynPig on April 07, 2018, 12:06:47 AM
The People Under the Stairs
Wes Craven. Didn't think much of it but it was fun watching Ed and Nadine Hurley as the baddies.

(https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Stairs1-615x333.jpg)

ha, didn't realise it was them, mind you I haven't seen it since before I first watched TP. Will watch again tonight.
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Post by: Bazooka on April 07, 2018, 01:01:29 AM
I adore The People Under The Stairs.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 07, 2018, 05:20:31 PM
Golem, 1980
Stalker, sepia, never too far away from dank, drizzle concrete walls and puddle ridden corridors (sounds like an early Eminem rhyme), pitter patter of rain; Robocop, fake PSAs and adverts; Delicatessen, strange slapstick, sepia, confided spaces
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Post by: Z on April 07, 2018, 06:14:38 PM
Colossal
Okay enough actually. For some reason the setting of the thing being Seoul pissed me off a bit, but otherwise I enjoyed it overall. Probably had something to do with it being under 2 hours and feeling like the kind of modern film that's incapable of staying under 2.5

Princess Cyd
Worst film I've seen in a long ass time.
I'm all for boring nice films of nice normal people being nice usually, but this drove me up the wall. The premise contains red herrings of drama that amount to nothing repeatedly (and I mean nothing, there is no point to the characters downplaying them beyond "these are just nice reasonable people here"), it's pursuit of low stakes breezy tones was so relentless that I found it kind of aggressive, as if it were trying to make me bail. Not one moment of it felt real.
Also made the error of making one of the leads a successful writer, so the whole environment is quite yuppieish and just unpleasant.

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Post by: Large Noise on April 09, 2018, 03:22:17 AM
Was a double feature for me tonight, neither of which I'd seen before:

Blade Runner (1982)
This really wasn't how I expected it to be. It's very grimy and gloomy and almost post-apocalyptic in the way the set's designed. The establishing shot of flying cars over LA kind of belies the way the rest of the film looks, the world they create is quite interesting in that sense.

But I was a bit underwhelmed to be honest. They fail to develop practically every character, with the possible exception of J F Sebastian. Harrison Ford's character is a blank slate. The replicants are fairly uninteresting too. That would be forgivable if the plot itself was made to be significant to the world at large, but even that feels fairly inconsequential. Why does it matter if Deckard completes his mission?

Yes it throws up some interesting themes about the nature of morality and humanity, etc. But I felt like that all could've been done just as effectively with more interesting characters and a more exciting plot.

The Seventh Seal 1957

First off, the women are far too well dressed for the 14th Century. Also, the actor who plays Jof could've learned to juggle for the role.

Those major problems aside, it was pretty great. Setting it during the middle ages give you the terrible sense that the "those poor bastards" reflex you initially experience applies to yourself today as much as it did those saps way back when. It seems to close with the message that the only way to avoid playing and losing the game-of-chess-of-life is to reproduce, and go live in a mobile home with a Swedish woman who's incredibly far out of your league. As true in 1957 as it was in 1357.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 09, 2018, 03:33:48 AM
the little chat Death and Sydow have in the confessional booth: the greatest bit in film ever?
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Post by: Large Noise on April 09, 2018, 05:07:07 AM
Yeah it's brilliant, the writing and acting is magic.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 09, 2018, 05:45:30 AM
O-Bi, O-Ba: The End of Civilization

Replace the Zone with the Ark

Think I liked it more than Golem
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 09, 2018, 09:56:57 AM
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da: The End of Civilization
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on April 09, 2018, 11:34:19 AM
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da: The End of Civilization
Whoah-ho-ho-ho life doesn't go on
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 09, 2018, 04:17:25 PM
Mondays in the Sun

really fucking resembles those 90s and early 2000s humour-tingled masterclasses that ken loach made (Riff-Raff, Raining Stones, Navigators, or idk, Blackstuff) there's a tiny bit of Kaurismaki about it all but it isn't quite the exercise in ennui as Kaurismaki
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Post by: Sin Agog on April 09, 2018, 05:05:05 PM
O-Bi, O-Ba: The End of Civilization

Replace the Zone with the Ark

Think I liked it more than Golem

Why were there so many Polish dystopias?*  Poland can't have been that bad.   Think Zulawski's incomplete (but still three hours long) masterpiece On the Silver Globe is my favourite.  Completely lost my bearings last time I watched that.  Literally had no idea where I was for a couple of minutes.


*Screeching Halt & Tidbit here to answer your question.  It's because sci-fi was the only medium by which they could pass comment on their Soviet overlords, and even then, as in the aforementioned On the Silver Globe, they didn't always get away unscathed.  Thanks for listening.  We'll be back again soon when you least expect- or want- us.
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Post by: Sin Agog on April 09, 2018, 05:09:40 PM
In a similar vein, caught Kin-dza-dza! for the first time in years.  May be the most fun Russian movie I know of.  Wonder if it influenced the new Mad Max at all, at least in terms of set design.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 09, 2018, 07:05:48 PM
*Screeching Halt & Tidbit here to answer your question.  It's because sci-fi was the only medium by which they could pass comment on their Soviet overlords, and even then, as in the aforementioned On the Silver Globe, they didn't always get away unscathed.  Thanks for listening.  We'll be back again soon when you least expect- or want- us.
smart ass!

In a similar vein, caught Kin-dza-dza! for the first time in years.  May be the most fun Russian movie I know of.  Wonder if it influenced the new Mad Max at all, at least in terms of set design.
Jesus I was just thinking about that film. was actually trying to find it before by googling "polish dystopia comedy" (turned out to be Russian)
From the caps of it on google it looks a lot like Richard Lester's Bed Sitting Room, or, more probably, Lester-via-Gilliam
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 09, 2018, 10:25:13 PM
'polish dystopia comedy' is sexmission
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 09, 2018, 10:57:38 PM
'polish dystopia comedy' is sexmission
Check your postbox
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 09, 2018, 11:12:21 PM
I have sexmission bookmarked in chrome but I don't think I've ever came across it before
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 11, 2018, 08:43:13 AM
Fe 1994
You know how some people prefer watching De Palma and Clouzot to the Big H? I kinda feel the same about post-Tarkovsky filmmakers
Stunning, surpasses The Clone Returns Home
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 11, 2018, 08:47:36 AM
Seriously stunned by that film. Every so often this happens, a Local Hero, a Housekeeping, a Goodbye Dragon Inn
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Post by: zomgmouse on April 14, 2018, 08:12:51 AM
Why were there so many Polish dystopias?*  Poland can't have been that bad.   Think Zulawski's incomplete (but still three hours long) masterpiece On the Silver Globe is my favourite.  Completely lost my bearings last time I watched that.  Literally had no idea where I was for a couple of minutes.


*Screeching Halt & Tidbit here to answer your question.  It's because sci-fi was the only medium by which they could pass comment on their Soviet overlords, and even then, as in the aforementioned On the Silver Globe, they didn't always get away unscathed.  Thanks for listening.  We'll be back again soon when you least expect- or want- us.

Similarly, Soviet dystopias. Visitor to a Museum is really startling, check it out if you haven't already.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 14, 2018, 09:55:59 AM
WATCHED PHASE IV FINALLY

maybe it's just because i've been awake all night and then some but i started bawling a bit at the original / alt ending
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Post by: greenman on April 14, 2018, 03:50:54 PM
Blade Runner (1982)
This really wasn't how I expected it to be. It's very grimy and gloomy and almost post-apocalyptic in the way the set's designed. The establishing shot of flying cars over LA kind of belies the way the rest of the film looks, the world they create is quite interesting in that sense.

But I was a bit underwhelmed to be honest. They fail to develop practically every character, with the possible exception of J F Sebastian. Harrison Ford's character is a blank slate. The replicants are fairly uninteresting too. That would be forgivable if the plot itself was made to be significant to the world at large, but even that feels fairly inconsequential. Why does it matter if Deckard completes his mission?

Yes it throws up some interesting themes about the nature of morality and humanity, etc. But I felt like that all could've been done just as effectively with more interesting characters and a more exciting plot.

The normal pattern of respose for reviews like this is a back and forth of "you need to watch it again" and "no I don't" isnt it?

Finally got around to watching Jonathan Glaziers Birth, strikes me as a film released rather before its time, very Lanthimosish(albeit not quite so heavy on the black humour) in style. The "pedo" fuss seemed pretty wide of the mark to me, I mean the film plays with the uncomfortableness of the situation but never really suggests it as a possibility. Overall actually much further down the road to Under the Skin than I expected it to me and the better for it.
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Post by: Z on April 14, 2018, 06:19:55 PM
Finally got around to watching Jonathan Glaziers Birth, strikes me as a film released rather before its time, very Lanthimosish(albeit not quite so heavy on the black humour) in style. The "pedo" fuss seemed pretty wide of the mark to me, I mean the film plays with the uncomfortableness of the situation but never really suggests it as a possibility. Overall actually much further down the road to Under the Skin than I expected it to me and the better for it.
Features the best single shot close up I can think of too, the one shot alone justifies the whole film for me.



RE: Blade Runner,
First time i saw it I thought it was a load of balls.
Second time, I thought it was a load of balls.
Third time I thought it was a load of balls but I was in a cinema (as opposed to a 14" vhs/tv combo or a Dell Laptop) so I got to really appreciate just how good looking and sounding it all is.
I probably won't watch it again in this life, but it is a really well made film all the same.
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Post by: Z on April 14, 2018, 06:24:49 PM
Finally got around to watching Jonathan Glaziers Birth, strikes me as a film released rather before its time, very Lanthimosish(albeit not quite so heavy on the black humour) in style. The "pedo" fuss seemed pretty wide of the mark to me, I mean the film plays with the uncomfortableness of the situation but never really suggests it as a possibility. Overall actually much further down the road to Under the Skin than I expected it to me and the better for it.
Features the best single shot close up I can think of too, the one shot alone justifies the whole film for me.



RE: Blade Runner,
First time i saw it I thought it was a load of balls.
Second time, I thought it was a load of balls.
Third time I thought it was a load of balls but I was in a cinema (as opposed to a 14" vhs/tv combo or a Dell Laptop) so I got to really appreciate just how good looking and sounding it all is.
I probably won't watch it again in this life, but it is a really well made film all the same.



Tom Petty -- Runnin' on a Dream
I like Tom Petty but he didn't need a 4+ hour documentary. I suppose one upside is that it made me a bit more aware of the kinda weird position he occupied in the 80s pre-Traveling Wilburys. never thought of him as someone all over 80s MTV.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on April 14, 2018, 06:28:51 PM
Every movie between the mid 80s and about 2000 that starts with the word "Future". So far:

Future Hunters (1986)
Future-Kill (1985)
Future Kick (1991)
Futuresport (1998)
Future Shock (1994)
Future Fear (1997)
Future War (1994)

For sheer puzzlement, "Future Fear" is in the lead so far.
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Post by: greenman on April 14, 2018, 06:30:55 PM
Features the best single shot close up I can think of too, the one shot alone justifies the whole film for me.

RE: Blade Runner,
First time i saw it I thought it was a load of balls.
Second time, I thought it was a load of balls.
Third time I thought it was a load of balls but I was in a cinema (as opposed to a 14" vhs/tv combo or a Dell Laptop) so I got to really appreciate just how good looking and sounding it all is.
I probably won't watch it again in this life, but it is a really well made film all the same.

I take it you mean the shot at the Wagner concert? that aspect does also seem rather ahead of its time for a US produced film but has become a stable of this kind of film now.

Honestly Blade Runner kind of gradually worked its way into my heart over a lot of earlier viewings mostly for the "coolness" although actually I tend to think a lot of the depth it has really comes down to its atmosphere, characters might not seem that deep on the page but are a lot moreso on the screen for me. I view it less as an anti slavery story and more as an existential one personally.
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Post by: Z on April 14, 2018, 06:44:58 PM
I take it you mean the shot at the Wagner concert? that aspect does also seem rather ahead of its time for a US produced film but has become a stable of this kind of film now.
Yep, entirely possible it doesn''t hold up as well as I remember, but at the same time it's a pretty perfect scene for a perfect character for Nicole Kidman. She's really good in the film.
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Post by: greenman on April 15, 2018, 08:21:17 AM
Yep, entirely possible it doesn''t hold up as well as I remember, but at the same time it's a pretty perfect scene for a perfect character for Nicole Kidman. She's really good in the film.

Its perhaps a little less unique now than it was then but it certainly holds up, the closeups of the "other" woman as well are very effective indeed as well.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 15, 2018, 09:24:39 AM
The Hellstrom Chronicle
thought I'd watch another ant film. things like the early greenaway luper films and f is for fake come to mind

loved it a lot
dated and shit (not very funny either)


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Post by: Z on April 15, 2018, 06:27:10 PM
The Post
Somehow that shot of her exiting the court was far worse than I could've possibly imagined. It's only like 5 seconds but what on earth was he thinking.

Andre the Giant Documentary
Jesus, this thing absolutely races through his life, doesn't it?
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Post by: Shameless Custard on April 17, 2018, 11:08:18 PM
Big Bad Wolves (2013)

An Israeli film about a bloke who kidnaps a school teacher he believes kidnapped and killed his young daughter. Precedes to torture him, as a cop also gets tangled up in the whole thing

Thought this was pretty good. You're left guessing whether blokey actually did it right to the end, and it's comedic enough in places (no, really!) to not be a total grimfest

Tarantino's favourite film of 2013, apparently
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Post by: Z on April 17, 2018, 11:26:57 PM
Angels With Dirty Faces
First time that I could really see at all why James Cagney was a star tough guy type character.
Mostly pretty good, I feel like it got a few real obvious notes wrong though, which is a trend with Curtiz for me.
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Post by: zomgmouse on April 18, 2018, 12:57:07 AM
Angels With Dirty Faces
First time that I could really see at all why James Cagney was a star tough guy type character.
Mostly pretty good, I feel like it got a few real obvious notes wrong though, which is a trend with Curtiz for me.

Have you done White Heat? Cagney ripping it up there. Tremendous film. The Roaring Twenties is another great Walsh-directed Cagney-starring belter (with added Bogart).
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Post by: Z on April 18, 2018, 01:08:52 AM
Have you done White Heat? Cagney ripping it up there. Tremendous film.
I have, but it was the first Cagney film I saw and I mostly found it kinda weird watching it considering it so obviously was playing hugely upon his earlier character.

Roaring Twenties is a due a rewatch, half watched it years ago and cant remember a thing.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on April 18, 2018, 01:14:39 AM
Big Bad Wolves (2013)

An Israeli film about a bloke who kidnaps a school teacher he believes kidnapped and killed his young daughter. Precedes to torture him, as a cop also gets tangled up in the whole thing

Thought this was pretty good. You're left guessing whether blokey actually did it right to the end, and it's comedic enough in places (no, really!) to not be a total grimfest

Tarantino's favourite film of 2013, apparently

It’s been a while since I saw this but isn’t it made quite clear at the end that he did do it?
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Post by: SteveDave on April 18, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
Andre the Giant Documentary
Jesus, this thing absolutely races through his life, doesn't it?

I bloody loved this. Hearing Hulk Hogan doing impressions of Andre and Macho Man Randy Savage was lovely. And Ric Flair and his see-through hair.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 18, 2018, 12:04:11 PM
oi for england
watched this on a dodgy 7th generation vhs copy on youtube and it was still so good

I wonder where british television would have went if we kept going down this route and never stopped (answer: we'd probably have less nostalgic-for-threads-and-bfi-funded-80s-stuff wheatleys and meadowses)
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Post by: Shameless Custard on April 18, 2018, 01:14:12 PM
Nay SPOILERZ, Mr Torso! ;-D

Midnight Special (2016)

Made by the same team what made Take Shelter, and again starting Michael Shannon, this is a decent slow-burning sci-fi.

Basically a kid is kidnapped/freed by his dad  (Shannon) from a cult as he has certain special powers. The government are also in hot pursuit.

Excellent supporting cast, with Kirsten Dunst, Joel Edgerton, Adam Driver, and the kid's quite good too.
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Post by: greenman on April 18, 2018, 01:37:42 PM
Nay SPOILERZ, Mr Torso! ;-D

Midnight Special (2016)

Made by the same team what made Take Shelter, and again starting Michael Shannon, this is a decent slow-burning sci-fi.

Basically a kid is kidnapped/freed by his dad  (Shannon) from a cult as he has certain special powers. The government are also in hot pursuit.

Excellent supporting cast, with Kirsten Dunst, Joel Edgerton, Adam Driver, and the kid's quite good too.

It turns out Santiago Calatrava is an inter dimensional being.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on April 18, 2018, 01:38:53 PM
Oiii!
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Post by: greenman on April 18, 2018, 04:56:01 PM
I did enjoy the after dark americana atmophere but it did feel a little slight in the end, magic boy crossing dimensions in itself isn't exactly dramatically deep.
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Post by: thecuriousorange on April 19, 2018, 03:04:49 PM
Go (1999)

Pulp Fiction for the American Pie crowd. Pretty terrible. And I was watching it for the first time, so I didn't even have nostalgia. That would be the only way to get anything out of this very dated rubbish. Aimed at wanking teenagers in the 90s.  2/5.
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Post by: phantom_power on April 19, 2018, 05:55:55 PM
I love Go. I think it does a great job of having the story split up and converge in interesting ways, and it is never predictable. Great soundtrack as well. It is always amusing that the bloke from Grange Hill is in it as well
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on April 19, 2018, 06:00:04 PM
Go. When I first saw it I was drunk and thought it was great. Watched it about a year ago and realised it's pretty bad.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 19, 2018, 10:38:23 PM
MARLINA THE MURDERER IN FOUR ACTS

Well worth a punt, it's grim but good like.
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Post by: Large Noise on April 20, 2018, 04:32:38 AM
Escape from New York

Can't help but feel that the fantastic 'in the future Manhattan is a prison island and a bunch of left wing radicals have kidnapped the president and bought him there' concept could have resulted in a more interesting film. But it is a low budget action movie we're talking about. As with other Carpenter films there are some interesting subversive political undertones.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 20, 2018, 11:42:28 AM
You should watch the sequel next; The President is a lot like trump.
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Post by: sevendaughters on April 20, 2018, 09:28:56 PM
Neon Demon - didn't like this at all, overwrought, not particularly original, and considering my ideal visual aesthetic is Kenneth Clark's Civilisation I didn't particularly rate the hyper-stylised visuals much at all. Too clean, too sterile, even if that is the point.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 21, 2018, 12:21:36 AM
À nos amours by  Maurice Pialat
Fantastic. Messy, discomforting, raw, aggressive, provocative. Bonnaire is tremendous.

Boy Meets Girl by Leos Carax
Very much my kind of thing, but very derivative. In a fun way though.

Full Moon in Paris by Éric Rohmer
A good one. Lots of nice standout moments, especially near the end. Pascale Ogier was very talented, a natural presence.

L'amour à mort by Alain Resnais
A surprising return to something closer to the mood of Resnais' earlier stuff. Great cast, interesting philosophical probing, didn't quite take off for me emotionally.

L'amour par terre by Jacques Rivette
Really, really enjoyed this. Possibly my favourite Rivette so far? I don't know, I'll have to think about that. Geraldine Chaplin and Jane Birkin are such a winning pair. Rivette's stuff is just so full of ideas, it's amazing.
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Post by: Large Noise on April 21, 2018, 04:44:26 AM
Tampopo

Japanese classic about a single mother trying to become a master noodle chef. Saw Ed Norton describe this as one of his favourite films ever the other day, then happened upon it today. It's inventive and entertaining but I didn't find it all that riveting.
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Post by: St_Eddie on April 21, 2018, 05:08:47 AM
a single mother trying to become a master noodle chef...

...I didn't find it all that riveting.

Who'd have thunk it?
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Post by: Gregory Torso on April 21, 2018, 05:30:29 AM
Neon Demon - didn't like this at all, overwrought, not particularly original, and considering my ideal visual aesthetic is Kenneth Clark's Civilisation I didn't particularly rate the hyper-stylised visuals much at all. Too clean, too sterile, even if that is the point.

Completely agree with this, although I thought Keanu was really good.
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Post by: sevendaughters on April 21, 2018, 08:35:42 AM
Completely agree with this, although I thought Keanu was really good.

yeah totally fair, couldn't see what he strictly added, but it was a good diversion
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Post by: Large Noise on April 22, 2018, 10:51:21 AM
True Romance

This felt like a composite of 100 different films I'd seen before. But to its credit, many of them were made later. No Country, Pineapple Express and Lost Highway are all in here. Even The End of the Fucking World seems to pay homage with the way the two main characters look. It's absurd but it wears that on its sleeve. It's a male fantasy, but it acknowledges and pokes fun at that fact. It suffers from the usual Tarantino thing of most of the characters sounding like QT, but even then there's plenty of skilful writing. It also unfortunately features the Tarantino trademark of gratuitous use of the N by white characters. 

Over all though I really enjoyed it.
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Post by: Dr Rock on April 22, 2018, 10:56:16 AM
Early Gandolfini excellence too.
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Post by: Large Noise on April 22, 2018, 11:08:56 AM
Yeah he's brilliant, I wonder how much that scene factored in the decision to cast him as Tony Soprano.
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Post by: Bazooka on April 22, 2018, 07:03:19 PM
Yeah he's brilliant, I wonder how much that scene factored in the decision to cast him as Tony Soprano.

I believe from an inside source he was originally approached to play Meadow, but due to a schedule conflict he had to play Tony. 
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Post by: spamwangler on April 22, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
Valarean and the legend of culrly's gold

Fair play, this film gave me a ballache up my arse from about five minutes in.

space chad was like an unlikable side character from malcom in the middle, like a teenage millhouse trying to be james bond

eyebrows was ok, considering the stuff that the fucking scriptmade her say

Rhianna was good enough for the film as the disposable sexy immigrant space prostitute, (that is to say, she was crap)
who in her non Rhianna form looked like something you would find on the cover of an early late 90s happy hardcore album cover

the most tacky, unimaginative use of an enormous cgi budget ive ever seen, it looked like an advert

i was going to say it looked like a computer game, but the last two games ive played are shadow of the collosus and halflife2, which looked great, were cinematically enthralling and never had rhianna pole dancing in a naitive american head dress

moon raker for millennials 0/10

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Post by: Dex Sawash on April 22, 2018, 11:32:27 PM
I loved for exactly those reasons^
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 22, 2018, 11:46:09 PM
yeah me too
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on April 22, 2018, 11:52:58 PM
i need to stop drinking and watch more movies
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 23, 2018, 12:09:26 AM
i need to stop drinking and watch more movies
yeet
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Post by: zomgmouse on April 23, 2018, 09:07:54 AM
MARLINA THE MURDERER IN FOUR ACTS

Well worth a punt, it's grim but good like.

I did not get on with this at all. Felt so sloppy and incoherent and almost entirely pointless.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 23, 2018, 08:41:32 PM
Saw memento in the cinema. Its seen it when I was about 15 but had forgotten most of it. Fitting really.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 24, 2018, 08:21:05 AM
After I got in last night I clocked the film expiring on Mubi was Strange Days. It was OK but hasn't aged well in what it thought 1999 would look like. It could also have done with having about an hour shaved off it.

It also appears to be where Fatboy Slim  lifted the 'Right Here! Right Now!' sample from. The line sticks out like a sore thumb.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 24, 2018, 12:08:20 PM
dated and shit (not very funny either)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: SavageHedgehog on April 24, 2018, 05:04:50 PM
It has a bit of a reputation for being underrated, but my memory is that after a strong first half-hour or so it wastes a very intriguing premises on a very clichéd and not very exciting action film. Shame this isn't one of those 90s films they turned into a TV series, bet that would have at least got more mileage out of the concept. While flawed Brainscan is a much more interesting take on a similar premise.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on April 24, 2018, 06:05:59 PM
True Romance

This felt like a composite of 100 different films I'd seen before. But to its credit, many of them were made later. No Country, Pineapple Express and Lost Highway are all in here. Even The End of the Fucking World seems to pay homage with the way the two main characters look. It's absurd but it wears that on its sleeve. It's a male fantasy, but it acknowledges and pokes fun at that fact. It suffers from the usual Tarantino thing of most of the characters sounding like QT, but even then there's plenty of skilful writing. It also unfortunately features the Tarantino trademark of gratuitous use of the N by white characters. 

Over all though I really enjoyed it.

It reminds me of those early Steely Dan tracks Donald Fagen doesn't sing on that it arguably seems to work better with Tony' Scott's more conventional direction, with Tarantino doing it himself I suspect everything might have gone too far.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 24, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
It has a bit of a reputation for being underrated, but my memory is that after a strong first half-hour or so it wastes a very intriguing premises on a very clichéd and not very exciting action film. Shame this isn't one of those 90s films they turned into a TV series, bet that would have at least got more mileage out of the concept. While flawed Brainscan is a much more interesting take on a similar premise.

I'll keep an eye out for that.

There's also Brainstorm, Natalie Wood's last film. That gets ratings just for having the Burroughs-Wellcome building in it. A wonderous and mad bit of brutalism.

(http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/files/2012/10/Burroughs-Wellcome-Elion-Hitchings-RTP-e1350561402347.jpg)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: SavageHedgehog on April 24, 2018, 09:09:09 PM
I'll keep an eye out for that.

There's also Brainstorm, Natalie Wood's last film. That gets ratings just for having the Burroughs-Wellcome building in it. A wonderous and mad bit of brutalism.

(http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/files/2012/10/Burroughs-Wellcome-Elion-Hitchings-RTP-e1350561402347.jpg)

Wait, I meant Brainstorm. Brainscan is pretty bad, but kind of fun.
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Post by: Gulftastic on April 24, 2018, 09:26:48 PM
My All American (2015). Deeply conservative sports biopic, but I'm a sucker for a sports biopic. Very manipulative, wringing every bit of sadness from the real life story behind it. I'm a sap, so tears were shed.
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Post by: Large Noise on April 24, 2018, 10:34:17 PM
It reminds me of those early Steely Dan tracks Donald Fagen doesn't sing on that it arguably seems to work better with Tony' Scott's more conventional direction, with Tarantino doing it himself I suspect everything might have gone too far.
I agree, but I would like to see that non-linear version given how well it worked in Pulp Fiction.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on April 24, 2018, 11:22:18 PM
I'll keep an eye out for that.

There's also Brainstorm, Natalie Wood's last film. That gets ratings just for having the Burroughs-Wellcome building in it. A wonderous and mad bit of brutalism.

(http://cenblog.org/terra-sigillata/files/2012/10/Burroughs-Wellcome-Elion-Hitchings-RTP-e1350561402347.jpg)


^ that's just up the road from me. They've let pine trees grow up all around it and built some shit red brick boxes too. Glaxo Smith-Kline Cunts.
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Post by: Sin Agog on April 25, 2018, 09:05:08 PM
Hopscotch (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080889/) 1980 Walter Matthau.  Right up there with The Stunt Man when it comes to completely unpredictable, intelligent action-comedies that never quite found an audience because they're too mercurial for their own good.
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Post by: itsfredtitmus on April 26, 2018, 11:08:42 AM
must see Hopscotch this very second
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Post by: monkfromhavana on April 28, 2018, 08:20:24 PM
Hopscotch (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080889/) 1980 Walter Matthau.  Right up there with The Stunt Man when it comes to completely unpredictable, intelligent action-comedies that never quite found an audience because they're too mercurial for their own good.

Isn't Charley Varrick with Matthau like that as well? No comedy element, but an intelligent and well thought out caper film.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on April 28, 2018, 09:49:18 PM
Isn't Charley Varrick with Matthau like that as well? No comedy element, but an intelligent and well thought out caper film.

Charley Varrick is aces.  Probably Don Siegel's best.  It was the first of three back-to-back largely "straight" thrillers Matthau did, followed by The Laughing Policeman (nowhere near as good as it should be) and the masterful Taking of Pelham 123.


Just finished Fritz Lang's Die Nibelungen (the complete 282min version) having chickened out when the same restoration did the rounds in the local art house cinemas some years ago.  It's a spectacle to be sure, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly "meh" about it when comparing it with M, Metropolis and Dr Mabeuse. 
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blumf on April 28, 2018, 11:20:21 PM
Valarean and the legend of culrly's gold

Fair play, this film gave me a ballache up my arse from about five minutes in.

space chad was like an unlikable side character from malcom in the middle, like a teenage millhouse trying to be james bond

eyebrows was ok, considering the stuff that the fucking scriptmade her say
...

Finally got around to watching this. I was so up for it when I first heard of it, really liked Fifth Element. Then I saw the two dull looking leads, heard the negative reviews, and gave up.

And yep, it really wasn't worth it. Just two sociopathic charisma vacuums going through a bunch of surprisingly dull set-pieces that never seemed to properly tie into anything else. You just couldn't give a single shit for anybody, from the sub-Avatar noble savages on up, especially Space Chad and Eyebrows McGee.

Worse still, as the boredom sets in, you just end up picking holes. "He just busted through a wall from an air section to a water section, he's flooded a whole deck?", "The little creature thing's been with them in that box the whole time, how is it not been battered to death with all the action they've been through?" etc. etc. The film actively makes you hate it.

Such a fucking waste.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 01, 2018, 01:26:36 PM
Saw Bottle Rocket, Wes Anderson's first film last night. It was alright. It seems Anderson was still finding his feet and Wilson hadn't fully developed into someone really annoying.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 01, 2018, 01:37:41 PM
Saw Bottle Rocket, Wes Anderson's first film last night. It was alright. It seems Anderson was still finding his feet and Wilson hadn't fully developed into someone really annoying.

Bottle Rocket and Rushmore are the only Anderson films I like.  I don't care for the rest of them - largely pointless and odd purely for the sake of being odd (caveat - not yet seen Isle of Dogs).  At least those two have a bit of depth to them.

Other films in which Wilson isn't really annoying include The Minus Man.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 01, 2018, 05:30:11 PM
I swerved a lot of them because of Wilson and a lot of them give off the impression of relying on quirky artifice. I enjoyed The Grand Budapest Hotel though.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: sevendaughters on May 01, 2018, 06:05:56 PM
saw Persona in the cinema over the weekend. Really good. Head-spinning. Not a huge fan of Bergman but he really nailed it here, perhaps even anticipated some of the perils of our day, so much so that his imitators might make the meat of this film seem old hat. in the shot where a hand gets nailed to a cross someone in front of me went GOOD LORD spontaneously. 8/10.
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Post by: magval on May 01, 2018, 07:40:47 PM
Fistful of Dollars is on in Belfast this week, so I watched that. Nice new restoration, hadn't seen the film in years. It's much, much better than I remember, much leaner and funny as hell too.

Came home and watched it again on DVD with Christopher Frayling's commentary.

Go see it if you can, the bigger the screen the better. It's probably on outside Belfast too like.

Also on was The Old Dark House. Brilliant film.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 01, 2018, 08:00:28 PM
It was on Sunday and Tonight at the GFT.

My folks were about Sunday and I was too knackered tonight to bother.

They're showing a 35mm screening of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly next week I think.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 01, 2018, 08:10:24 PM
They're showing a 35mm screening of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly next week I think.

Hopefully not the 4K restoration which is the current "standard" version.  Just a little bit yellow...
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 02, 2018, 08:38:13 AM
Last night I watched Douglas Sirk's All I Desire, it were a good bleak criticism in small-town American suburbia and broken dreams. Stanwyck was great in it.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 03, 2018, 01:48:43 PM
Finally wrapped my eyes around Bringing Up Baby. Wonderful and manic. Such a silly, fast ride, so much going on.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blumf on May 03, 2018, 10:48:21 PM
Hoffman (1970) (Talking Pictures TV, so may turn up again)

Very interesting. Very dark. I can see why this was one of Peter Sellers' 70's flops, but it's by no means his fault, the man is excellent in it. It's just a very awkward film to freely enjoy, especially today. The title character spouts out statements that you'd hear from modern day MGTOW's and (for the first half, at least) you have a very tense and bleak viewing.

The ending somewhat unravels the beginning, but I'm not sure what direction they could have taken. If you were to make Sellers' counterpart, played by Sinead Cusack, any wiser or tougher, she wouldn't have made much sense at the start, but does she make sense at the end?

4 escargots out of 5

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/hoffman/31117/looking-back-at-peter-sellers-in-hoffman
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 03, 2018, 10:52:43 PM
Hoffman (1970) (Talking Pictures TV, so may turn up again)

Sellers hated it and tried to buy all the prints, mainly because Hoffman was basically him and it opened his eyes to what a strange rapey sort he was.

I think a large reason for it tanking was that it was heavily marketed, rather bizarrely, as a comedy, a tag it still has in many places to this day (IMDB, for example).  It's anything but, of course.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 03, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
I watched that German film Western about some builders working in a small Bulgarian village. It's well shot, has some brilliant scenes of people communicating despite not being able to speak the same language. It keeps you guessing as well. The ending confused me slightly I think it's supposed to have a bit of mystery about it.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 04, 2018, 11:28:56 AM
After that I got home and watched As You Are, that was quite good as well.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on May 05, 2018, 07:55:35 PM
Most Recent of Planet of Apes

Wasn't as good as first 2. Second one was best I think. The little naked new ape had to wear a little blue down vest lol. Should get shopped into a tory photo with a dog.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 05, 2018, 11:30:26 PM
'The Greatest Showman' by Michael Gracey

It's okay. I'm usually a fan of unashamed artifice, and I'm even susceptible to a bit of corniness, but the songs are just horrendously bad. It works in spots.
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Post by: St_Eddie on May 06, 2018, 05:37:24 AM
The little naked new ape had to wear a little blue down vest...

Yummy, yummy, yummy.  I got love in my tummy and I feel like a-lovin' you (Mr. Ape Man).
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Post by: Dr Rock on May 06, 2018, 09:55:53 AM
(http://5b0988e595225.cdn.sohucs.com/images/20170825/a9ff7d8fde0e4ac188847b9a94d7d371.jpeg)

Hell Or High Water (2016)

Two brothers are pulling some low level bank heists in deep Texas. Jeff Bridges is a semi-retired cop. Their paths will meet in this slow-paced, atmospheric modern western thriller. I really enjoyed it.
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on May 06, 2018, 11:47:27 AM
I enjoyed Hell or High Water far more than I expected to. Will definitely watch again and would highly recommend. I am a Chris Pine fan though so bias and all that.
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Post by: Glebe on May 06, 2018, 02:17:31 PM
Labyrinth. Haven't watched it since those halcyon '80s video days, it doesn't quite hold up now. Henson's effects work is generally superb, of course (although those dancing fire things are a bit naff).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: magval on May 07, 2018, 12:22:25 AM
Ben Foster is great, that looks well worth a look
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Post by: Shameless Custard on May 07, 2018, 08:07:41 AM
Yeah, Hell and High Water is a cracker. Well worth a butchers, and also a gander
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Post by: greenman on May 08, 2018, 02:30:52 PM
On CaBs advice tracked down Hal "JR" Hartley's The Unbelievable Truth, first film of his I'v seen. Stuck me as a rather strange mix of bratpack romatic drama/comedy and Lynch style deadpan Americana send up although I think it does mostly work, perhaps doesn't quite live up to its opening? the circular dialog scene in the dinner certainly got my laughing more than anything I'v seen in awhile.

Also got Atom Egoyan's The Adjuster at the same point and was very pleasantly supprised by it. A lot of what I'd heard was that his previous work was a buildup to Exotica yet honestly if anything this felt slicker to me although far less direct in style. Again very much brought Lynch to mind for me but if anything it feels like it pre-empts his Lost Highway/Mulholland era  in style, maybe with a bit less of the surreal creeping dread and more general melancholy. Elias Koteas showing he was just about perfect for this kind of film for me as well, arguably better than any of Llynchs leads?
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Post by: greenman on May 09, 2018, 11:04:43 AM
Hell or High Water did depend quite heavily on Bridges redoing his performance from True Grit, besides that I thought it was decent rather than great.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on May 10, 2018, 02:37:57 AM
On CaBs advice tracked down Hal "JR" Hartley's The Unbelievable Truth, first film of his I'v seen. Stuck me as a rather strange mix of bratpack romatic drama/comedy and Lynch style deadpan Americana send up although I think it does mostly work, perhaps doesn't quite live up to its opening? the circular dialog scene in the dinner certainly got my laughing more than anything I'v seen in awhile.


I highly recommend Simple Men. Damn I should really get back to my Hal Hartley thread.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 10, 2018, 05:05:52 AM
Two more films by Jacques Demy:

Model Shop, his first English-language film, with Anouk Aimée reprising her role as Lola, also starring Gary Lockwood who I've only ever seen in 2001: A Space Odyssey which was weirdly enough released just the year before. There was a lot less fantasy in this film which meant that his usual doses of malaise and alienating reality were brought much more to the forefront without the sheen of joy and colour to shield it. Felt almost too real in parts.

Donkey Skin. After the tough life of his previous film he goes back to a literal fairytale and it's quite glorious and sumptuous and very very weird. I liked this a lot, the splendour and humour mixed very well.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on May 10, 2018, 05:59:35 AM
Lost in Space (1998) took 4 evenings to get through as it is both bad and long.
Gary Oldman is good. Everyone else is bad.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shameless Custard on May 10, 2018, 01:30:15 PM
Batman Vs. Two-Face (2017)

The rushed follow-up to 2016's The Return Of The Caped Crusaders, which saw Adam West and Burt Ward returning to voice the characters in a very light-hearted and in-jokey romp

Eh, it was alright. Not as good as the previous one, though it still made me smile a few times

Was pretty sad seeing it dedicated to the memory of West at the end

***
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 11, 2018, 05:55:57 PM
Vinyl by Andy Warhol

Really liked it. I don't know why it works, it just does.

Water Drops on Burning Rocks by François Ozon

Curiously flat rendering of a typical Fassbinder scenario of cruelty. Feels too much like an exercise in pastiche, despite some engaging performances.
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Post by: Dr Rock on May 12, 2018, 03:04:20 PM
I had the misfortune to watch Scorcese's Shine A Light which is basically the Rolling Stones in Concert re 2008 after about ten minutes. I'm a fan of much of their work, mostly when Brian Jones was involved and they were experimental; I like 20000 Light Years From Home and She's A Rainbow and early singles like 19th Nervous Breakdown and Under My Thumb... They haven't been that band since Exile On Main Street. Not that I don't like some stuff after that. I have every album up to about 1980.

Well in the 'movie', Keith Richards could barely play his famous riffs, or anything else, all the squiddly diddly guitar work came from Ronnie Wood, though they'd keep the camera on Richards as if he was playing it. What a swizz.

Jagger spends more energy on dancing about and whipping up the crowd than hitting the right note or even bothering to sing it. All the songs are their most obvious, and all, including Sympathy For The Devil, come out as a bluesy clangy mess with the backing singers or some of the other 30 people on stage (but rarely seen on camera) often holding the song together. Not much fun.
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Post by: sevendaughters on May 14, 2018, 01:42:29 PM
Nuts In May. Not seen for about 10 years. One of the funniest films ever made. Surprised it hasn't the reputation of a Spinal Tap, but I guess there's no epiphenomenal culture to latch it onto. Been doing Alison Steadman's voice all morning.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 14, 2018, 01:50:06 PM
Nuts In May. Not seen for about 10 years. One of the funniest films ever made. Surprised it hasn't the reputation of a Spinal Tap, but I guess there's no epiphenomenal culture to latch it onto. Been doing Alison Steadman's voice all morning.

Very popular on here. 



Patriots Day.  A lot better than I was expecting.  I liked the fact that it was fairly bullshit and flag-waving free for most of it.  Could do without those occasional moments where an upset and helpless Marky Mark shrugs his shoulders at such a cruel world, but around those moments it was surprisingly low key.  Reminiscent of the excellent 21 Hours at Munich.

I know Marky Mark's character was a fictional construct, and his little meeting Dun Meng was a VERY obvious attempt at atonement for nearly killing an Asian man in his youth, but otherwise it was nice that he wasn't a macho hero who was always in the right place at the right time.

I think a solid 6.5 to 7 out of 10.
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Post by: St_Eddie on May 14, 2018, 02:07:00 PM
Nuts In May. Not seen for about 10 years. One of the funniest films ever made. Surprised it hasn't the reputation of a Spinal Tap, but I guess there's no epiphenomenal culture to latch it onto. Been doing Alison Steadman's voice all morning.

What a strange coincidence.  I was literally thinking of creating a thread for Nuts in May, earlier today!  However, this comment...

Very popular on here.

...leads me to suspect that there nuts-in-may already be an existing thread, so instead I'll simply leave my favourite moment from the film here...

Quote from: Nuts in May
Candice Marie: "Kiss Prudence..."

Keith: "No."
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 14, 2018, 02:26:53 PM
Rewatched Nuts in May a while back. I've had Abigail's Party on my computer for a while but not yet gotten around to watching it.

Last night I watched Tootsie. It's basically just a serious Mrs Doubtfire isn't it?
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Post by: Cuellar on May 14, 2018, 02:45:25 PM
Watched that Get Out the other day. Enjoyed it, tense, sinister and compelling, if at times cheesy (especially the end, and it's not a huge spoiler, 'I TOLD you not to go in that house!!'). Thought Daniel Kaluuya was very good.

Saw on IMDB that Peele was influenced by Psychoville to an extent, but can't really find anything substantiating that (beyond Kaluuya being in both, of course).
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Post by: St_Eddie on May 14, 2018, 04:45:43 PM
Rewatched Nuts in May a while back. I've had Abigail's Party on my computer for a while but not yet gotten around to watching it.

You've not seen Abigail's Party yet?  I recommend pushing it up to the top of your 'to watch' list.  It's sublime.

SIDENOTE: If you've ever watched Julia Davis in Nighty Night, then it should be clear where Davis got her inspiration from.
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on May 14, 2018, 08:45:20 PM
Abigail's Party is bloody brilliant.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on May 14, 2018, 09:50:58 PM
Abigail's Party is one of the greatest things evorrrrr. So is Nuts In May
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 15, 2018, 07:00:55 AM
Tarkovsky's The Sacrifice. Sort of odd to be watching one of his films in the Swedish language, made it feel like a languid Bergman. Nevertheless absorbing and those final scenes will probably stay with me for a while, particularly the sharp cut from the fire to the boy.

Franco's Succubus. Pretty sumptuous and surreal and though it's held together by the finest of threads it's quite something.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 15, 2018, 02:05:40 PM
Watched Shanty Tramp last night some 1967 budget pulp affair. It's proper grim and unsympathetic. The main character is basically painted to be horrid.

SPOILERS BELOW


It starts out with a bent evangelist trying to bilk the locals, he decides he wants to have sex with her but she ignores him.
Then she goes to a bar and is dancing with some fella but some bad biker comes into town and she cops off with him. She says she'll shag him for money but he decides he's going to take it for free. A local black lad who fancies her breaks it up and she insists he goes back to her barn for sex. Her dad catches them and she says he raped her, he goes off to form a lynch mob. She lies to the black guy and says he'll set the story straight and says where to hide. She continues lying and the lads go after him but her dad realises she's bullshitting and knocks her about. It looks like her dad is about to get a bit rapey but she stabs him. The police find the dad and she runs off with the evangelist.

It's all a bit of a mad whirlwind; it probably would've gained notoriety for being awful/horrid but it looks like it was missing for ages and they had to piece together the 3 known prints of it and painstakingly restore it.

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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 15, 2018, 02:09:54 PM
Leone's Duck You Sucker/A Fistful of Dynamite/Once Upon A Time...The Revolution.  The full version.

Still a brilliant under rated masterpiece, and the American Kino Lorber blu ray looks amazing.  It also restores the original uncensored dialogue and has the full climactic flashback (shortened on most previous DVD releases).
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 16, 2018, 03:00:28 PM
Momentum (2015).  Fuuuuuuucking hell.  I mean, FUUUUUCKING HELL!!!!!!  It's bad.  Really really really bad.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on May 16, 2018, 06:00:59 PM
Momentum (2015).  Fuuuuuuucking hell.  I mean, FUUUUUCKING HELL!!!!!!  It's bad.  Really really really bad.

Does Purefoy get his nob out?
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 16, 2018, 06:52:35 PM
Does Purefoy get his nob out?

Yes!!!!

..........no.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 16, 2018, 09:39:42 PM
Last night - Gholam bit like taxi driver set in London with an Iranian bloke who was a child soldier.

Tonight I watched Redoubtable - that biopic of Godard's late 60's political period. That was quite good.
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Post by: St_Eddie on May 16, 2018, 10:42:40 PM
Momentum (2015).  Fuuuuuuucking hell.  I mean, FUUUUUCKING HELL!!!!!!  It's bad.  Really really really bad.

Ah, but tell us what you really think.
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Post by: magval on May 17, 2018, 10:29:05 AM
Leone's Duck You Sucker/A Fistful of Dynamite/Once Upon A Time...The Revolution.  The full version.

Still a brilliant under rated masterpiece, and the American Kino Lorber blu ray looks amazing.  It also restores the original uncensored dialogue and has the full climactic flashback (shortened on most previous DVD releases).

Will I need a multiregion player to watch it?
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 17, 2018, 02:24:31 PM
Will I need a multiregion player to watch it?

Yes - locked to region A.
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Post by: magval on May 17, 2018, 07:12:25 PM
Loada bollocks. No UK release on BD at all for this one.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 18, 2018, 01:42:34 PM
Loada bollocks. No UK release on BD at all for this one.

Either get yourself a multiregion player (they're reasonably priced now), or just get the region B German or French release - they're identical to the previous DVD releases (although obviously a different - and not as good - print from the KL release).
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Post by: magval on May 18, 2018, 07:08:39 PM
What is reasonably priced these days? Can you recommend a player?
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 19, 2018, 04:26:57 PM
What player do you have? Some of them can be unlocked by sending special codes via universal remote and stuff.
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Post by: magval on May 19, 2018, 10:49:50 PM
PS3 and 4 only, I'm afraid.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 19, 2018, 10:51:17 PM
What is reasonably priced these days? Can you recommend a player?

About £100-150.  You can get them from eBay and Amazon, but these guys are the most reliable - http://www.mrmdvd.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=159 (http://www.mrmdvd.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=159)  They've been in the multi-region business for years (I bought my first multi-region DVD player from them way back in 2001), and they give you a 1 year warranty on the players they sell, and any mod work to your own player (although, given they charge £119 for that, you may as well just buy a new player from them).


What player do you have? Some of them can be unlocked by sending special codes via universal remote and stuff.

Unless things have changed in the last couple of years, code hacks from remotes only work for DVD - as far as I know you can only make blu-ray players multi-region with hardware/chipping work, because blu-ray regions are determined by the hardware not the firmware.
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Post by: phantom_power on May 20, 2018, 09:12:08 AM
Brawl in Cell Block 99. Wasn't expecting something so grim, or that many head stompings.
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Post by: steveh on May 20, 2018, 11:20:16 AM
Super Snooper (aka Super Fuzz) - very silly 1981 Italian-produced Terrence Hill / Ernest Borgnine comedy about a Miami cop who gets super powers from an atomic test but which disappear every time he sees the colour red. Moves along at a decent speed with a good gag rate, making up for the rather cheap production and sometimes rather unnatural (translated?) dialogue.

Had never come across this until a chance Amazon recommendation - seem to be a load of Italian movies of that era now on Prime Video.
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Post by: Steven on May 20, 2018, 11:24:00 AM
Super Snooper (aka Super Fuzz) - very silly 1981 Italian-produced Terrence Hill / Ernest Borgnine comedy about a Miami cop who gets super powers from an atomic test but which disappear every time he sees the colour red. Moves along at a decent speed with a good gag rate, making up for the rather cheap production and sometimes rather unnatural (translated?) dialogue.

Had never come across this until a chance Amazon recommendation - seem to be a load of Italian movies of that era now on Prime Video.

I vaguely remember this from when I was a kid, "Afghanistan Bananistan?"
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 20, 2018, 02:18:18 PM
Steve Jobs, the Danny Boyle one with Fassbender.  Pretty good.  The way it jumped around, with a constant soundtrack (some of which sounded like it was courtesy of John Carpenter) made it feel like a two hour long trailer.  Plus Kate Winslet couldn't make up her mind whether she wanted to be Polish or American.  Fassbender, jeff Daniels, Michale Stuhlbarg and Seth Rogen all excellent.  Plus it made me hate Apple even more than I already do, which is no bad thing. 

Have to see the Ashton Kutcher one now.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 20, 2018, 03:04:01 PM
Get them in the skip and watch Pirates Of Silicon Valley instead. Jobs is played by Dr Carter from E.R.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 20, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
Already seen it (in fact I saw it before I had any idea who Steve Jobs was).  Thought it was...okay.  Typical TV movie trappings.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 20, 2018, 03:14:07 PM
Super Snooper (aka Super Fuzz) - very silly 1981 Italian-produced Terrence Hill / Ernest Borgnine comedy about a Miami cop who gets super powers from an atomic test but which disappear every time he sees the colour red. Moves along at a decent speed with a good gag rate, making up for the rather cheap production and sometimes rather unnatural (translated?) dialogue.

Had never come across this until a chance Amazon recommendation - seem to be a load of Italian movies of that era now on Prime Video.

It's a shame Sergio Corbucci switched to dumbass comedy in the 70s.  I find most of those Terence Hill and Bud Spencer films excruciating to watch.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 20, 2018, 04:15:27 PM
I find most of those Terence Hill and Bud Spencer films excruciating to watch.

Same! Never got the hype
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 20, 2018, 06:06:41 PM
Just got back from seeing Lindsay Anderson's If....

Hadn't seen it before, what a cracking film it is. You can see a proto-Alex in McDowell's performance but I reckon I preferred this to Clockwork Orange.
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Post by: Steven on May 20, 2018, 06:14:31 PM
Hadn't seen it before, what a cracking film it is. You can see a proto-Alex in McDowell's performance but I reckon I preferred this to Clockwork Orange.

McDowell's asked Anderson's advice on how to play Alex, and he said "That scene in If.. where you're about to go into the gym to be caned and pull that smile.. That's Alex."
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Post by: Large Noise on May 20, 2018, 06:15:26 PM
The Machinist

Thought it was very good. Had a look for some interesting reviews/analysis but didn't see much, which surprised me because it seemed like it'd be right up the political theory folks' alleys.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 20, 2018, 06:44:24 PM
Just got back from seeing Lindsay Anderson's If....

Hadn't seen it before, what a cracking film it is. You can see a proto-Alex in McDowell's performance but I reckon I preferred this to Clockwork Orange.

I MUCH prefer Clockwork Orange, but I have always wondered if the rumours about the real reason for the switch to black and white (Anderson basically ran out of colour film and there wasn't any money left to buy new stock, so instead they used black and white off-cuts salvaged from a bin from recently completed productions) hold any truth - McDowall and Anderson and the crew have always told differing and contradicting stories about it.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 20, 2018, 06:46:13 PM
I MUCH prefer Clockwork Orange, but I have always wondered if the rumours about the real reason for the switch to black and white (Anderson basically ran out of colour film and there wasn't any money left to buy new stock, so instead they used black and white off-cuts salvaged from a bin from recently completed productions) hold any truth - McDowall and Anderson and the crew have always told differing and contradicting stories about it.

There might be some truth in it, but I can also well believe it was just easier to shoot the dark bits in black and white. Faster film and that innit?

I'm sure i've heard of other films that have suddenly switched to black and white for budget reasons as well.

Not related to this (slightly related to Redoubtable, which I watched the other day) I was reading Jean Luc Godard was critical of Kodak because he couldn't get good results shooting black people on it when he was filming in Mozambique, this was apparently because Kodak didn't bother to produce reference cards depicting people of colour until 1995.
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Post by: DukeDeMondo on May 21, 2018, 03:33:25 AM
Miss Violence (2013)

I thought this was fucking repugnant. Absolutely rancid. Said nothing worth hearing that a billion other films didn't say better. Properly reprehensible. Vile. I haven't hated anything so much in an age.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 21, 2018, 01:14:04 PM
Alice in the Cities. Thought this was pretty astounding. Gave off a great sense of place and not feeling at home at the same time, as well as profound personal connection while having no physical connection to the world. Moved me a lot.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 21, 2018, 08:38:25 PM
Just watched that Filmworker documentary about Kuberick's right-hand man Leon Vitali. What a sacrifice abd what a grafter; he was doing things better than entire teams on other films abd still dedicating his life to Kuberick's work to ensure new transfers look and sound right.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 23, 2018, 02:00:14 AM
Entertainment, the Neil Hamburger one. Surreal and bleak, a road movie that just drives nowhere, like the best of them do. Horrifyingly resonant in parts. Also very funny but in the most depressing way possible.

Also watched Another Year. It's almost Leigh by numbers but even that is phenomenal. His films are so fine-tuned and yet have a real and human feel to them. Wonderful.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 24, 2018, 03:55:44 PM
Watched that Jeune Femme the other night, wasn't bad.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on May 26, 2018, 04:12:15 AM
Snatched with Amy Schumer and Private Benjamin. Fuck me is it bad. Managed to sleep for a bit of it.
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Post by: phantom_power on May 26, 2018, 01:12:46 PM
The Visitor, a mental Omen-ish horror from 1979 with a far better cast than the plot deserves. Some interesting directorial flourishes but I am not sure how intentional they are, given the shoddiness of the rest of the film. How they got John Huston, Shelley Duvall, Glenn Ford and others in this is a wonder. I don't know how well known it is in cult cirlces
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Post by: neveragain on May 26, 2018, 07:07:21 PM
Danny Boyle's The Beach with Leo, Tilda and a lot of familiar faces. (Johnson from Peep Show's in it!) A load of old tosh if you were to analyse it but I like the journey and the 90's dance music.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 27, 2018, 12:24:27 AM
The Squid and the Whale. Made me feel a bit uncomfortable but I'm not sure why (it wasn't horrific or anything), Jeff Daniels played an absolute wanker quite well though.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 27, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
After that I fancied something a bit less maudlin so watched I'm Gonna Git You Sucka. Classic.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on May 27, 2018, 02:18:29 PM
Logan Lucky was not funny. I sort of recalled CaB being pleasantly surprised back in the thread. Maybe it was just too sophisticated for me.
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Post by: Steven on May 27, 2018, 02:25:18 PM
Logan Lucky was not funny. I sort of recalled CaB being pleasantly surprised back in the thread. Maybe it was just too sophisticated for me.

I felt similarly:

Logan Lucky (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/logan_lucky) 2017

Wacky heist movie starring Daniel Craig doing a Souther accent. I thought it was a load of old mess and wasn't much entertained by it, also not funny at all.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 27, 2018, 02:30:34 PM
Melancholia. Really liked it - a bit arduous to watch, in a good way. The ending definitely struck me and I thought the portrayal of depression was very thorough and her finding peace towards the end was an interesting narrative progression. I kind of admired the choice to have such a densely-populated first half and then an utterly sparse second half. Kind of felt the Gainsbourg sister didn't get as much of an in-depth treatment but oh well. Some splendid acting and sets and all that.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 27, 2018, 02:40:09 PM
Heard good things about that zomg.

I'm off to watch Look Back in Anger.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 27, 2018, 02:46:51 PM
I also liked Melancholia, but it did actually make me depressed, mainly because of how von Trier captures the feeling of remoteness from others all too well

It's one of those films where everything that people don't like about it is completely intentional. It's sort of mining a feeling of emptiness
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 27, 2018, 03:11:27 PM
Yeah the person I saw it with did not like it because it presented such a dark view of the world.

Heard good things about that zomg.
It might be one of his more universally-liked films from memory.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 27, 2018, 08:34:38 PM
yeet

i've only just discovered what this means
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 27, 2018, 08:43:03 PM

I'm off to watch Look Back in Anger.

It's good, quite kitchen-sinky in places but with melodramatic play performances, like ken loach went mad and cast some shakesperian actors by mistake
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 28, 2018, 08:34:49 PM
Cell, the Stephen King one with John Cusack, continuing his endless run of terrible films.  Absolute dogshit, although the last shot of a zombie Cusack is up/down there with Nicolas Cage in a bee head basket.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 28, 2018, 08:38:40 PM
Cell, the Stephen King one with John Cusack, continuing his endless run of terrible films.  Absolute dogshit, although the last shot of a zombie Cusack is up/down there with Nicolas Cage in a bee head basket.

I watched the first half of mist as it was on mubi the other day, seeing as it's relevant. Dunno if I can be arsed with the rest of it.
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Post by: bgmnts on May 28, 2018, 08:39:06 PM
Cell, the Stephen King one with John Cusack, continuing his endless run of terrible films.  Absolute dogshit, although the last shot of a zombie Cusack is up/down there with Nicolas Cage in a bee head basket.

Its not the only Stephen King film with John Cusack and Sam Jackson.

I remember 1408 being actually pretty decent.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 28, 2018, 08:40:35 PM
The best Stephen King film is without a doubt Maximum Overdrive.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 28, 2018, 08:44:30 PM
I watched the first half of mist as it was on mubi the other day, seeing as it's relevant. Dunno if I can be arsed with the rest of it.

Darabont film or more recent TV series?  Not seen the latter, but I HATE the film.  Everyone else seems to love it, though.  First time me and Mrs Nose watched it I, in a MST style joking way, said "and the mist will clear and the army will be just around the corner".  We both looked at each other and laughed.


I remember 1408 being actually pretty decent.

I saw it at the cinema but not since then and I remember literally nothing about it so, for all I know, it could be a masterpiece.


The best Stephen King film is without a doubt Maximum Overdrive.

That end text aside, a film I have genuinely always loved and never quite understood the overwhelming hate for.
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Post by: Steven on May 28, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
Darabont film or more recent TV series?  Not seen the latter, but I HATE the film.  Everyone else seems to love it, though.  First time me and Mrs Nose watched it I, in a MST style joking way, said "and the mist will clear and the army will be just around the corner".  We both looked at each other and laughed.

Yes, as soon as there were four of them in a car with a gun, I assumed it was going to be a consensual suicide ending, and then the mist would clear and the army would turn up. So the impact was a bit ruined by that, though it was a decent attempt at a Twilight Zone style bleak ending.
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Post by: bgmnts on May 28, 2018, 08:51:52 PM
Wasn't King coked off his tits making Maximum Overdrive? I haven't yet seen it but I imagine I would love it if I did.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 28, 2018, 09:00:35 PM
Wasn't King coked off his tits making Maximum Overdrive? I haven't yet seen it but I imagine I would love it if I did.

Yes, and he can barely remember anything of the entire production.  All the more amazing that he seemed to be channeling Malick in a few shots. 

Here's the...intense trailer for it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWMy-QQNbw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWMy-QQNbw)
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 28, 2018, 09:02:09 PM
Wasn't King coked off his tits making Maximum Overdrive? I haven't yet seen it but I imagine I would love it if I did.
Aye, if you're going to watch it mate sure it's the cut with the steamroller scene.
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Post by: bgmnts on May 28, 2018, 09:05:43 PM
Yes, and he can barely remember anything of the entire production.  All the more amazing that he seemed to be channeling Malick in a few shots. 

Here's the...intense trailer for it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWMy-QQNbw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWMy-QQNbw)

Proper Maradonna eyes there.

Looks good though!
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 28, 2018, 09:10:15 PM
Darabont film or more recent TV series?  Not seen the latter, but I HATE the film.  Everyone else seems to love it, though.  First time me and Mrs Nose watched it I, in a MST style joking way, said "and the mist will clear and the army will be just around the corner".  We both looked at each other and laughed.


I saw it at the cinema but not since then and I remember literally nothing about it so, for all I know, it could be a masterpiece.


That end text aside, a film I have genuinely always loved and never quite understood the overwhelming hate for.

Film. It didn't strike me as very good. Toby Jones was about the only thing keeping me going. The cgi looked pretty poor even by 10 year old standards.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 28, 2018, 09:15:09 PM
People fucking LOVE it, though.

I also really struggled with the first 25-odd minutes - looks and feels like a TV/straight-to-DVD film.

Yet the hate for Maximum Overdrive...
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 28, 2018, 09:20:01 PM
Never really got the hate, if it was directed by Donald Jackson or Alex Cox people would be falling over themselves to big it up.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 28, 2018, 11:10:57 PM
It's cause it's not very good. Or rather it's an interesting idea executed slightly off well. The menace of the machines and the siege and all that would be great if it didn't have the OTT atmosphere about it.
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Post by: spamwangler on May 28, 2018, 11:17:58 PM
The Visitor, a mental Omen-ish horror from 1979 with a far better cast than the plot deserves. Some interesting directorial flourishes but I am not sure how intentional they are, given the shoddiness of the rest of the film. How they got John Huston, Shelley Duvall, Glenn Ford and others in this is a wonder. I don't know how well known it is in cult cirlces

oh man that theme tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abIS5zZHIMs
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Post by: St_Eddie on May 29, 2018, 05:15:35 AM
The Mist is a good film, you silly gubbins.  Myst is a bad game though.  Thus, I have spoketh.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on May 29, 2018, 11:25:25 AM
Cell, the Stephen King one with John Cusack, continuing his endless run of terrible films.  Absolute dogshit, although the last shot of a zombie Cusack is up/down there with Nicolas Cage in a bee head basket.

It never ceases to amaze me just how many bad films John Cusack makes these days. I was a huge fan of his back in the eighties and nineties but something seemed to happen after he made Max and 95% of his work is now tedious nonsense.
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Post by: Enrico Palazzo on May 29, 2018, 11:52:19 AM
I suspect yer guys like Cusack and Willis, who almost exclusively do pish now, are quite difficult to work with.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 29, 2018, 01:12:26 PM
Well, there's probably an element of just doing it for the money as well.  Cusack's always had that "three for them, one for me" working practice, acknowledging that making money is as important (sometimes more important) than making some sort of artistic statement.  It just so happens that quite a few of those "three for them" films, at least earlier in his career, were fairly decent with it.

Besides, Love and Mercy was alright.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 29, 2018, 02:04:57 PM
Au hasard Balthazar. Not my favourite Bresson, I'm not sure why but it didn't really resonate with me. I liked the donkey but the people seemed to be a bit out of reach as characters and the story felt strangely dense and abstruse.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on May 29, 2018, 03:36:28 PM
Thought I had seen all of Besson's films, that one is pretty early though
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 12:41:07 AM
The Cameraman, Buster Keaton. Again I'd heard so much about this but it was just a bit subpar. Some inspired sequences (staircase especially) but really not enough to sustain a feature.

Thought I had seen all of Besson's films, that one is pretty early though
Can't tell if this is a joke or a legitimate confusion of Besson and Bresson.
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Post by: bgmnts on May 30, 2018, 12:43:52 AM
Its well cheeky of the French to have directors Besson AND Bresson.

Imagine us having Hitchcock and Hitchcocke. Bollocks.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 12:53:56 AM
Paul T. Anderson
Paul W.S. Anderson
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Post by: bgmnts on May 30, 2018, 12:56:16 AM
One is American and the other isnt even really a filmmaker.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on May 30, 2018, 12:57:56 AM

Can't tell if this is a joke or a legitimate confusion of Besson and Bresson.

Both, I read it as Besson and rushed right off to find this previously unknown title.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 01:01:07 AM
Fassbinder
Fassbender

Steve McQueen
Steve McQueen
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Post by: bgmnts on May 30, 2018, 01:13:05 AM
Director
Actor

Actor/director
Director/actor

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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 01:55:35 AM
John Boulting
Roy Boulting
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Post by: bgmnts on May 30, 2018, 01:56:53 AM
Fair.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 30, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
The Cameraman, Buster Keaton. Again I'd heard so much about this but it was just a bit subpar. Some inspired sequences (staircase especially) but really not enough to sustain a feature.

this is incorrect sir
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 02:11:39 AM
Why
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 30, 2018, 02:35:44 AM
It's packed with lots of lovely little moments, lots of great little acting touches, and it's one of the most perfect uses of Buster as a performer, a perpetual loser but helpless romantic who will do reckless things to win the affection of a girl. That's the standard Keaton character of course, but it feels like the most finely sketched version of that. I also like all the vaguely metatextual stuff about being a filmmaker too. I have to say that I feel that it escalates quite satisfyingly, although I could see why someone might think that it was a bit too episodic in structure (but then again, so is Chaplin's City Lights). Not his best film, but one of his better ones. It's been a few years since I've seen it though, so if I watch it again and it's actually sub par then boy will my face be red.
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Post by: Sin Agog on May 30, 2018, 05:45:16 AM
The Cameraman, Buster Keaton. Again I'd heard so much about this but it was just a bit subpar. Some inspired sequences (staircase especially) but really not enough to sustain a feature.
Can't tell if this is a joke or a legitimate confusion of Besson and Bresson.

They both did films about Joan of Arc.

Saw Bresson's Lancelot of the Lake a week or two ago.  May be my new favourite of his.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 07:33:00 AM
Re The Cameraman: It's a bit telling when one of the biggest laughs I had was from an intertitle - then again, an intertitle was the punchline to "The Boat", so what do I know.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 02:00:28 PM
A Place in the Sun. Blimey what an emotional punch. The Clift/Taylor combo was phenomenal. Drama at close to its finest.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on May 30, 2018, 02:22:20 PM
Love that one. Clift really did have a great face, one that could mine new depths in anxiousness and sorrow. And the young Elizabeth Taylor was to die for. A Place in the Sun is the Hollywood studio era doing what it does best. Drama, glamour, allure, tears. Love it.
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Post by: Dr Syntax Head on May 30, 2018, 02:25:54 PM
Manchester by the sea. Loved it. I'm a big fan of that kind of American drama though. Proper sucker for it.

Valerian. Bored the hell out of me. Nice to look at and all that but by god it dragged on.

Gerry. Casey Affleck and Matt Damon lost in a desert. That's it. It was stunning. Like a series of still photos rather than a film. Will deffo watch again.
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Post by: zomgmouse on May 30, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
Love that one. Clift really did have a great face, one that could mine new depths in anxiousness and sorrow. And the young Elizabeth Taylor was to die for. A Place in the Sun is the Hollywood studio era doing what it does best. Drama, glamour, allure, tears. Love it.

Stevens was magnificent at this really. Giant is another fantastic example of all that.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on May 30, 2018, 10:50:03 PM
Just finished the Criterion restoration of Barry Lyndon, with the (finally) corrected aspect ratio.  Wow.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Large Noise on June 01, 2018, 06:31:38 AM
Subscribed to the BFI streaming service, trying to rattle through as many classics as I can before my Free Trial runs out. So far I've watched:

Breathless and My Life to Live- Godard. I'm sort of disappointed in myself in how I'm not really enjoying Godard that much. I can't put my finger on why exactly, but his films seem to be kind of rambling and disjointed.

A Woman Under the Influence and The Killing of a Chinese Bookie- Cassavetes. Thought both of these were great. Studies in people putting on a brave face while their world collapses. They both seem to completely nail the atmosphere they're going for, and there are no neat endings.

Rashomon- Kurosawa. A lot of characters who seem to agree with 2018 Germaine Greer.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 01, 2018, 08:47:18 AM

Breathless and My Life to Live- Godard. I'm sort of disappointed in myself in how I'm not really enjoying Godard that much. I can't put my finger on why exactly, but his films seem to be kind of rambling and disjointed.

Don't be. He's pompous and overrated. You have no obligation to enjoy his work despite his canonisation in the cinephile world. I quite liked Breathless as it seemed energetic and passionate but the latter was very much indicative of his work which on the whole for me is tremendously dull and pseudointellectual. No point in forcing yourself.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 01, 2018, 10:57:43 AM
Subscribed to the BFI streaming service, trying to rattle through as many classics as I can before my Free Trial runs out. So far I've watched:

Breathless and My Life to Live- Godard. I'm sort of disappointed in myself in how I'm not really enjoying Godard that much. I can't put my finger on why exactly, but his films seem to be kind of rambling and disjointed.

A Woman Under the Influence and The Killing of a Chinese Bookie- Cassavetes. Thought both of these were great. Studies in people putting on a brave face while their world collapses. They both seem to completely nail the atmosphere they're going for, and there are no neat endings.

Rashomon- Kurosawa. A lot of characters who seem to agree with 2018 Germaine Greer.

IIRC loach's Land and Freedom is on that, it's really worth watching; heavily based on Homage to Catalonia.

Alphaville is a really good Godard film. Every frame is beautiful.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 01, 2018, 03:17:15 PM
Don't be. He's pompous and overrated. You have no obligation to enjoy his work despite his canonisation in the cinephile world. I quite liked Breathless as it seemed energetic and passionate but the latter was very much indicative of his work which on the whole for me is tremendously dull and pseudointellectual. No point in forcing yourself.

I missed the original comment, but I HATE Godard.  Christ, if I never have to sit through Weekend again I'll die happy.  Even Breathless left me moderately whelmed at best.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on June 01, 2018, 04:06:08 PM
I find Godard tremendous and very rewarding, but zomgmouse is right that there's no reason to be disappointed in yourself for not enjoying the work of a canonised director. There's no point continually beating your brains with someone's work if you've given it a fair chance and simply don't connect with it. I don't think I'll ever understand what appeal Fellini holds, and having seen about 10 of his films I think it's safe to say that it's just not my flavour. Art really is like that, and it's no reason to feel bad.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 01, 2018, 04:16:15 PM
I find Godard tremendous and very rewarding, but zomgmouse is right that there's no reason to be disappointed in yourself for not enjoying the work of a canonised director. There's no point continually beating your brains with someone's work if you've given it a fair chance and simply don't connect with it. I don't think I'll ever understand what appeal Fellini holds, and having seen about 10 of his films I think it's safe to say that it's just not my flavour. Art really is like that, and it's no reason to feel bad.

Well, quite - I have major problems with most of PTA's (a lot of stuff about very little) and Wes Anderson's (odd for the sake of being odd) films.

On the other hand, To the Wonder aside, I'm a huge Malick fan, and he's probably the most divisive "important" director.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Large Noise on June 01, 2018, 07:02:14 PM
IIRC loach's Land and Freedom is on that, it's really worth watching; heavily based on Homage to Catalonia.

Alphaville is a really good Godard film. Every frame is beautiful.
Cheers, I'll put them on the list

Regarding Godard, having looked into it a bit more, I'm starting to think that my initial inability to connect with Breathless is more intentional on Godard's part than I'd realised.

On Fellini, I've only seen La Dolce Vita and I liked it but it's very long. Thinking back, it's hard to believe that all the different scenes I can remember were in the same film.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: bgmnts on June 01, 2018, 08:12:20 PM
Can someone recommend a good film that came out in the past 20 years? It has to be something I have on DVD though.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on June 01, 2018, 08:24:52 PM
Can someone recommend a good film that came out in the past 20 years? It has to be something I have on DVD though.

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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 01, 2018, 08:33:41 PM
lol at the 'gay porn' in every corner, just in case you can't take a hint.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: JesusAndYourBush on June 01, 2018, 08:51:13 PM
I saw Johnny Mnemonic for the first time last night.
For something that wasn't supposed to be a comedy there were a lot of laughs.  Funniest scene had to be the one where he accessed the internet using some sort of virtual reality thing.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blumf on June 01, 2018, 09:29:19 PM
Funniest scene had to be the one where he accessed the internet using some sort of virtual reality thing.

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Post by: bgmnts on June 01, 2018, 09:42:22 PM
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Chuckled. Would watch that.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: phantom_power on June 01, 2018, 10:25:31 PM
oh man that theme tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abIS5zZHIMs

It is a great tune. So great they felt the need to use it 12 times in the film, even when the action was completely incongruous to the atmosphere of the music
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 02, 2018, 12:25:17 AM
Can someone recommend a good film that came out in the past 20 years? It has to be something I have on DVD though.

Can you post a link to your DVD collection and then I can choose for you
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: bgmnts on June 02, 2018, 12:27:29 AM
Can you post a link to your DVD collection and then I can choose for you

I went for Big Trouble in Little China and Robo Geisha.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 02, 2018, 12:32:32 AM
The former is definitely more than 20 years old. In fact it's 32 years old. Really really good, mind.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: bgmnts on June 02, 2018, 12:38:16 AM
The former is definitely more than 20 years old. In fact it's 32 years old. Really really good, mind.

Yeah none of the films that fit the criteria grabbed me so went for a mega classic.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 02, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
Would watch that.

I BET YOU WOULD
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 02, 2018, 11:44:02 PM
Watched a couple more Abel Ferrara films:

The Gladiator, a TV movie about a vigilante who pulls over drunk drivers after a maniac causes a car accident resulting in the death of his brother. It's not that great.

China Girl, his modern-day retelling of Romeo and Juliet in New York with the two "factions" being the Italian and Chinese communities. It's actually rather good! The teens act a bit teeny but for the most part it's fairly gritty and stylistically interesting.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 03, 2018, 02:11:05 AM
The Gladiator, a TV movie about a vigilante who pulls over drunk drivers after a maniac causes a car accident resulting in the death of his brother. It's not that great.

Not the highlight of Ridley Scott's career, it must be said.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 03, 2018, 11:16:59 AM
Never really got the hate, if it was directed by Donald Jackson or Alex Cox people would be falling over themselves to big it up.
Wait, what? The Donald Jackson who made "The Roller Blade Seven"? I don't think I've heard anyone big up a movie he made, ever.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 03, 2018, 11:19:50 AM
Wait, what? The Donald Jackson who made "The Roller Blade Seven"? I don't think I've heard anyone big up a movie he made, ever.

Hell Comes to Frogtown.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 03, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
Hell Comes to Frogtown.
The worst Rowdy Roddy Piper movie ever*. Although I admit I was annoyed about it from the beginning - wouldn't it make a lot more sense, if you find a one-in-several-million fertile man, that you'd keep him under lock and key and send the women to him, rather than sending him out into the super-dangerous wilderness with minimal protection? Oh, and the way all the army vehicles are pink in the future, because women run everything. Hahahahahaha

Although, you're right because clearly, some people like that movie.

*okay, "Pro Wrestlers vs. Zombies" is probably worse.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 03, 2018, 11:35:12 AM
It's still better than most of Andy Sidaris' output and people like that.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: New Jack on June 03, 2018, 02:31:56 PM
Watched Army of Darkness, spotted a load of lines Duke Nukem nicked, was generally highly entertained, and shuddered in horror when I realised I'd pilfered the theatrical cut, with the Executive Meddling ending.

YouTube sorted me out with that sweet, neat bleakness
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on June 03, 2018, 06:08:03 PM
Watched Army of Darkness, spotted a load of lines Duke Nukem nicked, was generally highly entertained, and shuddered in horror when I realised I'd pilfered the theatrical cut, with the Executive Meddling ending.
A lot of Duke Nukem's lines are nicked from Evil Dead/Army of Darkness and other assorted films.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: spamwangler on June 03, 2018, 07:32:23 PM
It is a great tune. So great they felt the need to use it 12 times in the film, even when the action was completely incongruous to the atmosphere of the music
i think if i ever met a film, id probably have a montage of people walking into rooms and forgetting why they had gone in there, with this theme playing over
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 03, 2018, 07:42:57 PM
Duke Nukem also nicked the 'chew bubblegum and kick ass' from They Live, but they reversed it to make it flow better.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 03, 2018, 10:01:16 PM
It's still better than most of Andy Sidaris' output and people like that.
That pro wrestling documentary aside, I would rather watch the worst Andy Sidaris movie than the best Donald Jackson one (although I'm not sure why you brought Sidaris up, wasn't the discussion about "Maximum Overdrive", then Roddy Piper movies, two things entirely unrelated to everyone's favourite Hawaii-based boobmeister?)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 04, 2018, 12:50:50 AM
That pro wrestling documentary aside, I would rather watch the worst Andy Sidaris movie than the best Donald Jackson one (although I'm not sure why you brought Sidaris up, wasn't the discussion about "Maximum Overdrive", then Roddy Piper movies, two things entirely unrelated to everyone's favourite Hawaii-based boobmeister?)

I'd lump them together just because anyone who sort of knows about one will know about the other as they're all part of a similar cult thing despite being thematically different.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on June 04, 2018, 02:58:17 AM
Unsane (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/unsane)

Not finished it yet but interesting, worth a watch.

Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 04, 2018, 09:57:51 AM
Watched Abigails Party, good innit.

Flew a bit close to home re: parents dinner parties.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 04, 2018, 11:58:41 AM
Watched Abigails Party, good innit.

Flew a bit close to home re: parents dinner parties.

Luv a bit o Demis Roooussos
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 04, 2018, 01:22:44 PM
My mum had the VHS tapes of that and "Nuts In May" and I watched them loads in my younger day. They are both brilliant.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 04, 2018, 02:02:21 PM
I didn't even realise Steadman also played Candice-Marie until it was mentioned in some 5 minute homage after the credits.

Loved seeing Roy Galloway being all grumpy and monosyllabic.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 04, 2018, 02:13:45 PM
I didn't even realise Steadman also played Candice-Marie until it was mentioned in some 5 minute homage after the credits.

Oh she's a stupendously versatile performer. Top form.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: sevendaughters on June 04, 2018, 02:19:24 PM
Hors satan. Bruno Dumont film set in the rural marshes around Boulogne-sur-mer. A drifter appears to have healing powers and offs a couple of people who need to be offed. Alongside the reality/fable mixture, there's a strange meshing of animistic beliefs, classic judeo-christian dogma, and some Freudian weirdness (that I think certain feminists will hate) underpinning this. I think I liked it. Gonna watch some more Dumont. Heard P'tit Quinquin is great.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: itsfredtitmus on June 04, 2018, 02:48:43 PM
So typical Trier bollocks?
I have that on dvd but haven’t seen it yet kind of looks like Hellfjord
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Post by: sevendaughters on June 04, 2018, 03:01:52 PM
it's not too Trier. it's worth a watch, he has a style of his own.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 04, 2018, 08:10:11 PM
My mum had the VHS tapes of that and "Nuts In May" and I watched them loads in my younger day. They are both brilliant.

I only watched Abigail's Party for the first time, around 6 years ago but Nuts in May was a staple of my childhood too.  That and Season's Greetings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-dgbTWfQ58).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 04, 2018, 09:27:31 PM
For no good reason, I've been watching all the movies of David A Prior, who did the mildly famous "Deadly Prey", the slightly less famous "Killer Workout", "Future Zone", with David Carradine (about the guy with the magic laser-shooting glove he hardly ever uses despite it being really really useful) which MST3K featured; then a whole heap of things you'll hopefully never have heard of.

I can't tell if my opinion of his work being this dark meditation on his own wartime experiences (he was in Vietnam, I think) is actually a legitimate criticism or just me desperately trying to find something worthwhile as I plough through 30+ movies which are often very very similar. There's torture, done in corrugated sheds; an Army command outpost in a series of tents; flashbacks; and very badly shot gunfights where each side stands stock still. Each of these things has been in at least half the 15 of his gems I've seen so far.

He even did a documentary about his own movies, called "That's Action", hosted by Robert Culp, which is available on Youtube. I'm still two movies away from it though :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e2lYbJU6xo
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 04, 2018, 09:40:19 PM
Embarrassing cinephile admission

Sounds a bit like when I started wading through most of Ray Dennis Steckler's films (at least those I could track down in this country) in the late 80s after he was featured on and episode of The Incredibly Strange Film Show.  Around the same time I was trying to watch every Charles Bronson film.  Including all the Family of Cops films.
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Post by: magval on June 04, 2018, 10:46:23 PM
The worst Rowdy Roddy Piper movie ever*.

SHUT your HOOOOOOOOLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlTofwK8FLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlTofwK8FLQ)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 04, 2018, 11:21:18 PM
Sounds a bit like when I started wading through most of Ray Dennis Steckler's films (at least those I could track down in this country) in the late 80s after he was featured on and episode of The Incredibly Strange Film Show.  Around the same time I was trying to watch every Charles Bronson film.  Including all the Family of Cops films.
"The Hollywood Strangler Meets The Skid Row Slasher" is legitimately one of the grimiest, ugliest movies I've ever seen, and is therefore well worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXrmiuFC3No

(if you can find it, Joe Bob Briggs also did a commentary for it on one of his TV series).
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Post by: SteveDave on June 05, 2018, 08:50:19 AM
Big Bad Wolves as recommended by someone on here. Lovely stuff. I can see why Justin Quarantino liked it so much. It was very much in his wheelhouse. Dark topic with humour throughout. My favourite being "No, that's the cop and that's the paedophile" "Huh...he looks more like a paedophile than him!"

It's probably because we watched it in three chunks (due to the child) that the ending didn't seem as gut punching as it could've been.

I await the American remake starring Steve Carrell with baited breath.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 05, 2018, 09:00:19 AM
The Greasy Strangler - blatant Napoleon Dynamite rip-off, but with added extras of course.  And, also like Napoleon Dynamite, barely whelming.

Z - not quite as good as I remembered it being (having not seen it since the early/mid 90s).  The tone is a little bit uneven for one.  Soundtrack is dodge for another.  Still a good (and important) film, but Missing, Special Section, State of Siegeand The Confession are all much better in my opinion.

The Mattei Affair - Alex Cox's favourite film.  Wow, amazing stuff.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 05, 2018, 10:10:47 AM
The Greasy Strangler - blatant Napoleon Dynamite rip-off, but with added extras of course.  And, also like Napoleon Dynamite, barely whelming.

I enjoyed The Greasy Strangler.  However, I regret watching it, purely because of the scene where the titular character kills the pig nosed man and puts his finger into his missing nose crevice, swirls it around and lifts his finger to his mouth, with blood and mucus upon the end of it and gives it a taste.  That scene keeps on intruding on my thoughts, seemingly without prompt nor reason and it makes me feel physically sick.  Just typing this post is making me feel queasy in fact.  That's not an exaggeration.  I'm literally gagging as I type this sentence.  Fuck's sake.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 05, 2018, 02:33:45 PM
Over the course of last night and this morning I watched the entire Three Colours trilogy. I had no real idea of what I was in for but I was immensely bowled over. There's a lot to take in. Quite an incredible cinematic achievement.

I also watched Night of the Creeps tonight which was a lot of fun.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 05, 2018, 02:42:34 PM
Over the course of last night and this morning I watched the entire Three Colours trilogy. I had no real idea of what I was in for but I was immensely bowled over. There's a lot to take in. Quite an incredible cinematic achievement.

Have you seen Dekalog?  If not, do so - it makes the Three Colours trilogy seem decidedly mediocre.  Which is more a comment about how incredibly good Dekalog is...
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 05, 2018, 02:45:41 PM
Have you seen Dekalog?  If not, do so - it makes the Three Colours trilogy seem decidedly mediocre.  Which is more a comment about how incredibly good Dekalog is...

Negatory. Not yet. Up till now I've sort of always been intimidated by even the mention of Kieslowski, like he'd made all these films and was prolific and renowned and every arthouse cinema-lover had to know them. But then I watched these and am now very sold. Dekalog and whatever else he's made will definitely now make its way directly to my list of things to watch.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 05, 2018, 02:51:15 PM
Negatory. Not yet. Up till now I've sort of always been intimidated by even the mention of Kieslowski, like he'd made all these films and was prolific and renowned and every arthouse cinema-lover had to know them. But then I watched these and am now very sold. Dekalog and whatever else he's made will definitely now make its way directly to my list of things to watch.

Dekalog and the extended episodes he turned into stand-alone theatrical films (A Short Film About Love, and A Short Film About Killing) should be your next KK stops.  And then after that just pick whatever at random.  You can't really go wrong.  He did a shit-load of documentaries about a variety of subjects with are worth tracking down as well.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 05, 2018, 03:00:47 PM
Dekalog and the extended episodes he turned into stand-alone theatrical films (A Short Film About Love, and A Short Film About Killing) should be your next KK stops.  And then after that just pick whatever at random.  You can't really go wrong.  He did a shit-load of documentaries about a variety of subjects with are worth tracking down as well.

Noted. Thank you. Someone told me to watch The Double Life of Véronique as well but Dekalog seems like a decent next place to stop over.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 05, 2018, 03:05:47 PM
All of it is good.  I honestly can't think of one film he made which could be considered as poor.  Not as good as some of his others, probably, but certainly not poor.  Granted, I've not seen ALL of his docs, but I can't imagine there being a glaring drop in quality given that everything else is so good.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blinder Data on June 05, 2018, 05:29:19 PM
Watched District 9 for the first time. Interesting that it predates the current refugee crisis. Good CGI, world-building and some fun action.

Otherwise, why did this get rave reviews? I didn't like the way it dropped the mockumentary format when it suited the story. A lot of the acting was rubs, it was chockful of clichéd moments, the characterisation was wafer-thin, and it seemed to abandon its interesting premise for your standard Hollywood action denouement. Plus for a film that supposedly explores racism its portrayal of Nigerians was, erm, iffy to say the least.

5/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Steven on June 05, 2018, 05:52:32 PM
I enjoyed The Greasy Strangler.  However, I regret watching it, purely because of the scene where the titular character kills the pig nosed man and puts his finger into his missing nose crevice, swirls it around and lifts his finger to his mouth, with blood and mucus upon the end of it and gives it a taste.  That scene keeps on intruding on my thoughts, seemingly without prompt nor reason and it makes me feel physically sick.  Just typing this post is making me feel queasy in fact.  That's not an exaggeration.  I'm literally gagging as I type this sentence.  Fuck's sake.

The best thing about it was the sound, all the music stings and squelchy noises, bit like an episode of Trapdoor. The rest of it was all a bit Napoleon Dynamite/Tim & Eric derivative with a reliance on gross-out humour.

an actually GOOD weird and interesting Napoleon Dynamite type of film is Buzzard (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/buzzard).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 05, 2018, 07:10:00 PM
Buzzard is indeed quality.
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 06, 2018, 07:54:27 AM
The best thing about it was the sound, all the music stings and squelchy noises...

I unashamedly adore the soundtrack of that film.

Watched District 9 for the first time. Interesting that it predates the current refugee crisis. Good CGI, world-building and some fun action.

Otherwise, why did this get rave reviews? I didn't like the way it dropped the mockumentary format when it suited the story. A lot of the acting was rubs, it was chockful of clichéd moments, the characterisation was wafer-thin, and it seemed to abandon its interesting premise for your standard Hollywood action denouement. Plus for a film that supposedly explores racism its portrayal of Nigerians was, erm, iffy to say the least.

5/10

I very much enjoyed the first 2/3rds of District 9, up until it devolved into a dumb action flick.  Everything that Neill Blomkamp has done since has been underwhelming, to say the least.  All of his subsequent movies have used the same themes and story structure.  He's a one trick pony.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 06, 2018, 08:06:02 AM
I very much enjoyed the first 2/3rds of District 9, up until it devolved into a dumb action flick.  Everything that Neill Blomkamp has done since has been underwhelming, to say the least.  All of his subsequent movies have used the same themes and story structure.  He's a one trick pony.

I think District 9 is the only decent films he's done, even the dumb action flick part.  Chappie is just a straight remake of Short Circuit and, moreso, Short Circuit 2 of course.


Bone Tomahawk - always nice to see Sid Haig.  Liked it a lot.  Different.  I love that it stuck with the slow and mannered style, tone and performances all the way through and didn't give in to an obvious shift to all-out action and typical horror film climax the last act might otherwise have dictated.  A very solid film.  Matthew Fox should stick to TV perhaps, though.  Also think David Arquette should've got a bit more screen time.

Anomalisa - meh.  Comparisons to Lost In Translation are apt (although Anomalisa is a lot better than that) and, by the end of it, I did have a feeling of "but what is point?"  And I saw that "twist" coming the minute Lisa turned up.  Glad I've seen it, but doubt I'll ever watch it again.
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 06, 2018, 08:33:26 AM
I think District 9 is the only decent films he's done, even the dumb action flick part.  Chappie is just a straight remake of Short Circuit and, moreso, Short Circuit 2 of course.

Chappie wishes that it was Short Circuit 2.


Bone Tomahawk - always nice to see Sid Haig.  Liked it a lot.  Different.  I love that it stuck with the slow and mannered style, tone and performances all the way through and didn't give in to an obvious shift to all-out action and typical horror film climax the last act might otherwise have dictated.  A very solid film.  Matthew Fox should stick to TV perhaps, though.  Also think David Arquette should've got a bit more screen time.

I was quietly impressed by Bone Tomahawk.  It's due a rewatch, I reckon.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 06, 2018, 08:49:46 AM
Yeah, it's from a similar school of authentic feeling modern revisionist western film making as Open Range and The Proposition.
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 06, 2018, 08:58:31 AM
Yeah, it's from a similar school of authentic feeling modern revisionist western film making as Open Range and The Proposition.

I've not seen those two films.

*adds them to the ever expanding 'to watch' list*

Stop making me watch things which I'm liable to enjoy, dammit!
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 06, 2018, 09:20:09 AM
Oh, okay.

They're both shit.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 06, 2018, 09:20:45 AM
(they're not)
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Post by: Shameless Custard on June 06, 2018, 09:44:10 AM
Glad you enjoyed Big Bad Wolves, SteveDave! One of the best films I've seen recently, for sure
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 06, 2018, 10:00:12 AM
Oh, okay.

They're both shit.

Phew!  Taking them off my list.

(they're not)

Oh, fuck.  Now I'm adding them back onto my list.
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Post by: Dex Sawash on June 06, 2018, 11:33:58 AM
What happend to the "Blomkamp to make next film in X1 series" thing?



1. Where X may or may not =Steel Magnolias
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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 06, 2018, 11:39:41 AM
Watched the first half of "Candyman" last night...s'alright so far...could maybe be a bit less reliant on the jumpscares I was kind of expecting more of a extreme psychological horror like Hellraiser 2...but it just seems so far to be a bit creepypasta...I should have VHS copies of Robocop and Return of the living dead arriving in the next couple of days so im looking forward to cracking those out! :D
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 06, 2018, 01:31:34 PM
Watched the first half of "Candyman" last night...s'alright so far...could maybe be a bit less reliant on the jumpscares I was kind of expecting more of a extreme psychological horror like Hellraiser 2...but it just seems so far to be a bit creepypasta...I should have VHS copies of Robocop and Return of the living dead arriving in the next couple of days so im looking forward to cracking those out! :D
I get upset when people don't like "Candyman". I think it's amazing, top (small number) of all time for me. There's just something about it.

Over the course of last night and this morning I watched the entire Three Colours trilogy. I had no real idea of what I was in for but I was immensely bowled over. There's a lot to take in. Quite an incredible cinematic achievement.
Julie Delpy on that red bedsheet in "White" will be the last ever image that wanders through my brain (I hope, maybe I'll be thinking about a cheese sandwich when I get shot, or something).
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 06, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
Kazan's Wild River. Thought it was pretty good at the beginning but then got even better. Some quite emotional swaying towards the end. Montgomery Clift was reliably quality and Lee Remick also very good. Jo Van Fleet also remarkable as usual. A stifling and heady atmosphere.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on June 07, 2018, 12:38:52 AM
Too Late Blues by John Cassavetes

Fantastic. Lost souls, jazz, cigarettes, empty bars, blown chances. Brilliantly involving performances all round. Bobby Darin actually very impressive as a typically bruised Cassavetes lead character. Feels a tad setbound, could have done with more of a feeling of the outside. Not perfect, but great all the same. Heard that it was one of his minor films, but it's actually a gem. 
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 07, 2018, 12:50:20 AM
Too Late Blues by John Cassavetes

Fantastic. Lost souls, jazz, cigarettes, empty bars, blown chances. Brilliantly involving performances all round. Bobby Darin actually very impressive as a typically bruised Cassavetes lead character. Feels a tad setbound, could have done with more of a feeling of the outside. Not perfect, but great all the same. Heard that it was one of his minor films, but it's actually a gem.

Where did you find this? Been after it for a bit.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on June 07, 2018, 12:55:24 AM
Where did you find this? Been after it for a bit.

I've got the Region 1 DVD from Olive Films. Just got it through an Amazon seller (years ago, mind. I have literally hundreds of DVDs that I've bought over the years that I'm only just working through).
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 07, 2018, 12:59:16 AM
I've got the Region 1 DVD from Olive Films. Just got it through an Amazon seller (years ago, mind. I have literally hundreds of DVDs that I've bought over the years that I'm only just working through).

Ah darn. Haven't found an online copy anywhere. Don't suppose you know how to extract items from discs do you?
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on June 07, 2018, 01:17:02 AM
Sorry, but that's outside the (admittedly narrow) bounds of my technical competency
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 07, 2018, 02:13:22 AM
Pathetic.

Jk I'll just have to come get it from you physically. Where do you live?
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on June 07, 2018, 02:19:54 AM
currently residing at your mum's house
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 07, 2018, 02:26:29 AM
My mum's dead

Your move
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on June 07, 2018, 02:52:06 AM
damn. the ultimate own.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 07, 2018, 04:05:36 AM
Seriously though I'm not sure where you live and I might be coming to where you live during my travels so please tell me where you live
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 07, 2018, 05:15:17 AM
Watched the first half of "Candyman" last night...s'alright so far...could maybe be a bit less reliant on the jumpscares I was kind of expecting more of a extreme psychological horror like Hellraiser 2...but it just seems so far to be a bit creepypasta...I should have VHS copies of Robocop and Return of the living dead arriving in the next couple of days so im looking forward to cracking those out! :D

Aw, I love Candyman.  It's a great film, says I.
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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 07, 2018, 08:36:57 AM
I get upset when people don't like "Candyman". I think it's amazing, top (small number) of all time for me. There's just something about it.

Aw, I love Candyman.  It's a great film, says I.

I watched the 2nd half last night and I really have to agree with you two, it's a genuinely quite well made little horror movie. Though I would say the ending was a little bit more rushed than I would have liked...I had to wikipedia exactly how what happened at the end happened (It maybe would have been nice to have a touch more clarity) but yeh a genuinely shocking and enjoyable movie :)
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 07, 2018, 08:39:16 AM
I watched the 2nd half last night and I really have to agree with you two, it's a genuinely quite well made little horror movie...

I'm glad that you saw sense in the end.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 07, 2018, 09:36:04 AM
Saw candyman a year or so ago. Got stoned as fuck and didn't realise there was going to be a directors Q&A beforehand. Got a right sense of relief when the lights finally dimmed.
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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 07, 2018, 09:40:29 AM
I'm glad that you saw sense in the end.

Have you seen the sequels? Im genuinely curious as to whether they're worth bothering with...the film kind of works really well as just a one off movie...but I know theres another 2 films after this one...

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Post by: St_Eddie on June 07, 2018, 10:22:24 AM
Have you seen the sequels? Im genuinely curious as to whether they're worth bothering with...the film kind of works really well as just a one off movie...but I know theres another 2 films after this one...

I've seen the sequels but remember very little about them, other than that they weren't very good.  One of them was set in New Orleans and had Veronica Cartwright in it.  That's the extent of my memory of the sequels and as such, hardly a ringing endorsement.
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Post by: AsparagusTrevor on June 07, 2018, 10:52:43 AM
Have you seen the sequels? Im genuinely curious as to whether they're worth bothering with...the film kind of works really well as just a one off movie...but I know theres another 2 films after this one...

I wouldn't bother with the Candyman sequels, especially the third. If you're really curious maybe give the second a go, it's isn't actively terrible but definitely give the third a miss.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 07, 2018, 12:05:29 PM
If you're really curious maybe give the second a go, it's isn't actively terrible but definitely give the third a miss.

This, although I seem to remember there's a moment in 3 where the budget clearly runs out, just like in Wishmaster 2, so it might be worth watching 3 as well just for that giggle.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on June 07, 2018, 07:59:13 PM
Slackers (2002) - Thought this pretty weak. The occasional funny bit, but most of it fell flat for me.

2 chicken slices
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 07, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
Confessions of a Police Captain - no, not some undiscovered Robin Askwith masterpiece, but one of Damiano Damiani's 70s crime dramas.  Pretty good, although interestingly I was watching the Italian version with German credits.  Anyway, good stuff.  Martin Balsam's great in it.  Kid gets thrown off a cliff.  Marilu Tolo ends up in a concrete pile of a new building.
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Post by: magval on June 09, 2018, 07:46:41 AM
Saw the Good, the Bad and the Ugly in Queens last night. Tuco’s graveyard marathon on a big screen is fucking spiritually transformative. I was beaming all night having seen it at that scale. Still am. Absolutely perfect cinema, that is.

I accidentally made a fair few cinema patrons laugh loudly by mimicking one of the badly dubbed Mexicans laughing with my own genuine laughter and was simultaneously pissed off and tickled by the notion that everyone might have thought I was some kind of look-at-me cinema dickhead, and because I had been betrayed by my own sense of humour.
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Post by: New Jack on June 10, 2018, 09:47:16 AM
An American Werewolf in London was on film 4 last night

Was engaging, I think the practical effects have held up well enough, and it tried to straddle comedy and horror but not too well. But it did give it a charm, it was an easy watch. Ending seemed kind of sudden, not because of the jump cut, but the doctor had spent the previous half hour plus figuring out the dude's a lycanthrope, yet has nothing to do with the ending other than show up with Jenny Agutter, plus they didn't return to the limbo souls, so their ending is kind of implied.  Felt a bit unfinished for these reasons, but yeah, I enjoyed it.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 10, 2018, 07:46:58 PM
The Heroic Trio (1993) - Mad Hong Kong superhero flick where an evil villain is kidnapping babies. It's cheap for sure but extremely cheerful, as our three heroines kick the crap out of various villainous types, and hey, one kills a baby but it was sort of an accident so we shouldn't hold that against her. 7.4/10
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 11, 2018, 12:26:17 AM
Big Bad Wolves as recommended by someone on here. Lovely stuff. I can see why Justin Quarantino liked it so much. It was very much in his wheelhouse. Dark topic with humour throughout. My favourite being "No, that's the cop and that's the paedophile" "Huh...he looks more like a paedophile than him!"

It's probably because we watched it in three chunks (due to the child) that the ending didn't seem as gut punching as it could've been.

I await the American remake starring Steve Carrell with baited breath.

I watched this tonight and thought it was pretty fucked up, like you say it's very funny in places but the ending left a nasty taste in my mouth. I was expecting more of a twist to be honest, and thought for a long time that it'd turn out it was the grieving father who'd killed the girls, but nonetheless it's pretty disturbing stuff. 7.6/10
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Post by: New Jack on June 11, 2018, 09:13:56 AM
Saw the Good, the Bad and the Ugly in Queens last night. Tuco’s graveyard marathon on a big screen is fucking spiritually transformative. I was beaming all night having seen it at that scale. Still am. Absolutely perfect cinema, that is.



This sounds ace. Makes me think of one of Stephen King's prefaces to the Dark Tower books where he's on about seeing Clint Eastwood on a big screen, and being awed by the sheer scale. You probably got that feeling!
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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 11, 2018, 10:04:01 AM
This weekend I watched "The Last Unicorn" and "Return of the living dead"

The former was a somewhat fluffy if not nicely animated kiddy movie that was boosted a bit by having Christopher lee in it. The Latter was SO STUPID. I loved it. brilliantly surreal and wonderfully weird I really loved the puppetry and effects. plus that woman who looks like Aladdinsane era David Bowie who spends most of the movie in the nip was a nice touch.
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Post by: SteveDave on June 11, 2018, 10:29:16 AM
Cargo- Tim from The Office versus zombies in the Outback.
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Post by: Steven on June 11, 2018, 03:12:39 PM
This weekend I watched "The Last Unicorn"

I loved The Last Unicorn as a kid, great soundtrack by Jimmy Campbell and America. The only stinker is the terribly sang Now That I'm a Woman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIUnq2d9pMU) - just when you thought Mia Farrow couldn't get worse.

and of course:

(http://aytiws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/last-unicorn_42.jpg)

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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 11, 2018, 03:45:36 PM

and of course:

(http://aytiws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/last-unicorn_42.jpg)

OH GOD! TRAY ON HEAD *BANG!* TRAY...ON HEAD! *BANG!!!* TRAY...ON...HEA-*BANG!!!!*

... ... ...
Yeh Mias really not upto the singing side of things here...that being said the entire subplot where the unicorn becomes a woman and will "Change back when she needs to" seemed a bit "Iffy" to me personally...Soundtracks lovely though as is most of the animation
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Post by: phantom_power on June 11, 2018, 04:34:25 PM
Cargo- Tim from The Office versus zombies in the Outback.


Any good?
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 11, 2018, 06:24:18 PM
Any good?

My other half watched it on Saturday whilst I messed around online and occasionally looked up to see what was going on. So this tiny review isn't exactly fair, but I thought it was pretty boring and dull.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 11, 2018, 11:22:47 PM
Just finished watching the Indicator/Powerhouse blu of Charley Varrick.  Still my favourite Don Siegel film.  Absolutely brilliant stuff.  Sadly one that the (Ex poster)' of this world will probably want scrubbed from existence.

Also The Death of Stalin.  Pretty good.  Could do with 10-15mins shaved off.  Simon Russell Beale is brill in it.

And Bowfinger for the first time since the cinema.  Still holds up well.  It's buttah and chicky baby.
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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 12, 2018, 08:58:21 AM
Finished "Fright night" last night for the first time (The 80's version) while Roddy Mcdowell is amazing in it and the last 20 minutes are pretty good fun. the rest of it was a load of bollocks to me...
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Post by: SteveDave on June 12, 2018, 10:14:35 AM
Any good?

It killed a few hours. My wife loved it. The ending was nice. In all 4/7.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 12, 2018, 02:28:48 PM
Cohen and Tate, an independent neonoir starring Roy Scheider and Adam Baldwin as a couple of hitmen charged with bringing a kid back to some mobsters. It's essentially a road film and inverse of a buddy cop film. Some bleak and fun stuff in here.
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 12, 2018, 07:46:54 PM
Finished "Fright night" last night for the first time (The 80's version) while Roddy Mcdowell is amazing in it and the last 20 minutes are pretty good fun. the rest of it was a load of bollocks to me...

I like all of Fright Night but I absolutely agree that the main draw is Roddy McDowall, whom completely steals the show and the last act, which is a exhilarating ride through a haunted house of sorts.
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Post by: bgmnts on June 12, 2018, 09:06:34 PM
Blade.

The first ten minutes is just beautiful.
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Post by: sevendaughters on June 12, 2018, 09:45:46 PM
I watched Leap of Faith again this morning and the whole thing with the kid walking again reminds me of the kid who casts the bell in Andrei Rublev, God intervening on behalf of the wretched in a way that benefits the charlatan. Good performance from Martin. Not an amazing film though. Rublev is.
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Post by: Howj Begg on June 12, 2018, 09:50:14 PM
Herostratus (1967). Amazing.
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Post by: Sin Agog on June 12, 2018, 10:31:34 PM
Herostratus (1967). Amazing.

Word. One of my favourites.  Some killer extras on the BFI DVD 'n' all if you haven't got it.

Eerie to think that both the star and the director killed themselves in the following years.  I guess it proves that one should be careful about messing about with suicidal ideation, even for the sake of great art like Herostratus.  Considering it was shelved for a few years, it anticipates the lysergic end of the '60s amazingly well.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 12, 2018, 11:27:20 PM
I like all of Fright Night but I absolutely agree that the main draw is Roddy McDowall, whom completely steals the show and the last act, which is a exhilarating ride through a haunted house of sorts.

Oh Chris Sarandon is a mega force in this though. No denying.
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 13, 2018, 01:35:06 AM
Oh Chris Sarandon is a mega force in this though. No denying.

Well, quite.  Regardless of the number of fingers Mr. Sarandon is sporting in any given role, he is always a welcome addition to any film.
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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 13, 2018, 10:59:15 AM
I like all of Fright Night but I absolutely agree that the main draw is Roddy McDowall, whom completely steals the show and the last act, which is a exhilarating ride through a haunted house of sorts.
I dunno, to me I just found the initial 70 minutes or so a little bit miandering and more often than not on the wrong side of 80's cheese for my taste...I think had they focussed a bit more on the relationship between McDowall, Ragsdale and Sarandon and less on Ragsdale blindly trying to prove on his own that Sarandon is a vampire I'd have probably been a bit more on board with it. though as you say I absolutely cant fault McDowall, he makes the film worth watching at least once just for his performance alone. and the special effects are really quite something (And I didnt realise until now that the sfx guy was the same bloke who did all the effects for "Ghostbusters"which now that I think about it really shows in this movie...I cant believe I never drew the comparison before)

Oh Chris Sarandon is a mega force in this though. No denying.

^Agreed. the guys unstoppable in this.
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 13, 2018, 11:52:40 AM
I dunno, to me I just found the initial 70 minutes or so a little bit miandering and more often than not on the wrong side of 80's cheese for my taste...I think had they focussed a bit more on the relationship between McDowall, Ragsdale and Sarandon and less on Ragsdale blindly trying to prove on his own that Sarandon is a vampire I'd have probably been a bit more on board with it. though as you say I absolutely cant fault McDowall, he makes the film worth watching at least once just for his performance alone.

I understand, I really do.  I don't consider Fright Night to be a flawless movie; far from it.  It's very much a slice of 80's cheese and I simply can not deny that without Roddy McDowall, it's not a movie which I would have revisited as many times that I have.  It's just that, I enjoy the movie as a whole.  I always become transfixed to the screen whenever McDowall is onscreen but at the same time, I can't say that I'm bored by the moments when he's not onscreen; they're just less interesting scenes.

If you want to see something truly boring and by the numbers, then check out Fright Night: Part II.  Not even Roddy McDowall can save that movie (although admittedly, it has its moments.  Just nowhere near enough to make it worthwhile).
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Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 13, 2018, 12:01:05 PM
I understand, I really do.  I don't consider Fright Night to be a flawless movie; far from it.  It's very much a slice of 80's cheese and I simply can not deny that without Roddy McDowall, it's not a movie which I would have revisited as many times that I have.  It's just that, I enjoy the movie as a whole.  I always become transfixed to the screen whenever McDowall is onscreen but at the same time, I can't say that I'm bored by the moments when he's not onscreen; they're just less interesting scenes.

If you want to see something truly boring and by the numbers, then check out Fright Night: Part II.  Not even Roddy McDowall can save that movie (although admittedly, it has its moments.  Just nowhere near enough to make it worthwhile).

Thats fair enough really, I will say that where the film is good, it's great. just to me those less interesting scenes were pretty flat for me. Though I will admit I always have a soft spot for the Vincent Price/Peter Cushing style character performance but McDowall just nails it in this one!

I actually looked up the plot for the sequel because I wanted to see if it was worth bothering with I read the opening line on wikipedia which said something along the lines of "It's 2 years after the first movie, Charlies in therapy and has forgotten vampires exist, his girlfriends left him and he has a new girlfriend and Peter Vincents been fired again. something something vampires turn up again" and I just thought "DONE." I wont be visiting that one unless I review it under mild sufference for my site xD
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Post by: St_Eddie on June 13, 2018, 12:39:05 PM
I actually looked up the plot for the sequel because I wanted to see if it was worth bothering with I read the opening line on wikipedia which said something along the lines of "It's 2 years after the first movie, Charlies in therapy and has forgotten vampires exist, his girlfriends left him and he has a new girlfriend and Peter Vincents been fired again. something something vampires turn up again" and I just thought "DONE." I wont be visiting that one unless I review it under mild sufference for my site xD

Yeah, it's just a retread of the first movie, except infinitely less interesting and this time it's Peter Vincent trying to convince Charlie that vampires are real.  I watched it last year and I can remember all of two scenes from it.
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Post by: magval on June 13, 2018, 01:37:52 PM
Blade.

The first ten minutes is just beautiful.

Aye, Lem and his heatseeker and that bangin' New Order remix.
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Post by: New Jack on June 13, 2018, 02:42:27 PM
Saw Dazed and Confused for the first time, which shouldn't have taken so long as I've watched most of Linklater's other stuff including Everybody Wants Some!!

It was ace! I really liked the vibe in the second half, when the cliques all meet at the party and the tales intertwine. Was quite fun and rambunctious, obviously a period piece but works as a comparison to now and approached it in the right way, and I think elements like the hazing were shot with that in mind so they've aged just fine. It's right-headed.

Also tippled it was the source of, via Wooderson, some classic lines. I mean, I've heard them before - 'That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age', but what a brilliant character.

Liked the underlying themes, and identified with the characters too. Wooderson being older and trying to hold onto something temporary was a nice counterpoint to nostalgia, which would be easy to fall into with this flick. Pink's longing for individuality. The desire to punch some fucker for having a go at you.

Felt a really warm, charming film, the pace was absorbing and I liked the near-aimlessness of the plot as it had quite a lot going on, and a lot of heart.

The best film adaptation of an annoying magazine I've ever seen
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: phantom_power on June 13, 2018, 03:01:06 PM
I like how there is this threat of something bad happening that runs throughout the film but in the end everyone pretty much has a great night, apart from Ben Affleck. Even "I just wanna dance!" man gets a light beating and a story to tell

The only film I can think of with lower stakes is Everybody Wants Some, where the most that happens is someone nearly gets into a scuffle at a bowling alley. Great film though. Linklater really captures that "mates hanging out" vibe without all the characters being impossibly witty
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 13, 2018, 03:06:37 PM
It's a real anti-nostalgia kinda film which I dug. There's certainly a lot of care put into recreating a particular time and feel but the underlying message seems to me to be "this really sucked - I had a decent time, but by god is there more ahead".
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on June 13, 2018, 06:49:04 PM
Not sure I agree with that interpretation- and I rewatched it only yesterday.  Sure, that's what the skinniest quarterback ever says out there on the football pitch, but unless you've handled adulthood better than me, halcyon nights like that one are pretty thin on the ground.  There's no way Linklater wasn't looking at that soundtrack, those giant cars, tight jeans and blazed conversations with rheumy, nostalgic eyes.  I think lines like 'If I ever start referring to these as the best days of my life, remind me to kill myself,' are more a commentary on young people's grass is greener approach to looming adulthood, when the reality is it's generally nowhere near as liberated as that brief adolescent window when you've just been thunderstruck with self-awareness and everything still feels fairly new and exciting to you.

Also, I always felt him, Wiley Wiggins' character, and McConaughey represent one person in three stages of development.  No doubt he'll drop out early and end up glomming onto the younger generations in an attempt to recapture his glory daze for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on June 13, 2018, 10:03:18 PM
Pirahna
Meh, funny at times but kinda overdoes it's knowing nods and winks. Would have benefitted from being 15-20 minutes shorter.


The Color of Pomegranates
Looks great, sounds great, is a total fucking chore. Couldn't connect with most of it at all and what I could seemed astoundingly heavy handed, I'd be surprised if I thought more of the bits I didn't get if I had the knowledge base to know what they were referring to.
The kind of thing I can't outright dismiss cos it was doubtlessly amazing upon release, but I also imagine it exclusively influenced things I hate.


A Brighter Summer Day
Took a bit to get over all the 50s culture references (have a hardwired "ugh, baby boomer bullshit" response to that) but once I did this was a peach. Think Yi Yi might be better but this is great stuff.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 13, 2018, 10:30:09 PM
Pirahna
Meh, funny at times but kinda overdoes it's knowing nods and winks. Would have benefitted from being 15-20 minutes shorter.

Which version?  There's the following releases...

* Piranha (1972)
* Piranha (1978) - Directed by Joe Dante, fact fans.
* Piranha (1995)

There's also...

* Piranha II: The Spawning (1981) - Co-directed by James Cameron, fact fans.
* Piranha 3D (2010)
* Piranha 3DD (2012)

Incredibly, I've somehow managed to watch four of the above.

Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Avril Lavigne on June 13, 2018, 10:54:12 PM
I didnt realise until now that the sfx guy was the same bloke who did all the effects for "Ghostbusters"which now that I think about it really shows in this movie...I cant believe I never drew the comparison before)

Yeah, the huge-mouthed girl vampire featured on the cover is actually the original face designed for the Library Ghost from the beginning of Ghostbusters, which was rejected for being too scary.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 13, 2018, 11:05:27 PM
Yeah, the huge-mouthed girl vampire featured on the cover is actually the original face designed for the Library Ghost from the beginning of Ghostbusters, which was rejected for being too scary.

Ah, yes.  That's right.  It's a great design...

(https://i.imgur.com/uULip0O.jpg?1)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Avril Lavigne on June 13, 2018, 11:28:56 PM
Ah, yes.  That's right.  It's a great design...

It is! Although I'm not sure the version used in Ghostbusters is actually less scary, they're both pretty hideous for different reasons.

I always find it weird that the same actress, supposedly a teenage character in Fright Night, started playing Marcy in Married With Children just a year or two later.

Oh, and the most recent non-new film I saw was Wake In Fright this weekend.  A very good, raw depiction of a descent into booze-fuelled madness/debauchery, but since I went in blind on a friend's recommendation I had no idea it would feature genuine, lengthy footage of real kangaroos being shot to bits which rather marrs the experience.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on June 14, 2018, 08:13:20 AM
Which version?  There's the following releases...

* Piranha (1972)
* Piranha (1978) - Directed by Joe Dante, fact fans.
* Piranha (1995)

There's also...

* Piranha II: The Spawning (1981) - Co-directed by James Cameron, fact fans.
* Piranha 3D (2010)
* Piranha 3DD (2012)

Incredibly, I've somehow managed to watch four of the above.
Piranha (1978) - written by John Sayles, fact fans
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on June 14, 2018, 08:15:13 AM
Ah, yes.  That's right.  It's a great design...
(https://i.imgur.com/uULip0O.jpg?1)

Teal and orange in the 80s!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 14, 2018, 09:16:25 AM
Not sure I agree with that interpretation- and I rewatched it only yesterday.  Sure, that's what the skinniest quarterback ever says out there on the football pitch, but unless you've handled adulthood better than me, halcyon nights like that one are pretty thin on the ground.  There's no way Linklater wasn't looking at that soundtrack, those giant cars, tight jeans and blazed conversations with rheumy, nostalgic eyes.  I think lines like 'If I ever start referring to these as the best days of my life, remind me to kill myself,' are more a commentary on young people's grass is greener approach to looming adulthood, when the reality is it's generally nowhere near as liberated as that brief adolescent window when you've just been thunderstruck with self-awareness and everything still feels fairly new and exciting to you.

Also, I always felt him, Wiley Wiggins' character, and McConaughey represent one person in three stages of development.  No doubt he'll drop out early and end up glomming onto the younger generations in an attempt to recapture his glory daze for the rest of his life.

I guess what I mean by anti-nostalgia is that it's not a film that just casts a rose-tinted light on everything. With all the cool music and parties and hanging out there's still the humiliation of the junior classes and so on. There's a quote by Linklater on the commentary track I think where he says, "You can't go back." And to me that sort of sums up the sentiment, both positive and negative.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 14, 2018, 11:33:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/uULip0O.jpg?1)
Teal and orange in the 80s!

(https://i.imgur.com/8jdhHar.jpg)

Nah, this is what Fright Night would look like if it were released today.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: phantom_power on June 14, 2018, 12:30:24 PM
I guess what I mean by anti-nostalgia is that it's not a film that just casts a rose-tinted light on everything. With all the cool music and parties and hanging out there's still the humiliation of the junior classes and so on. There's a quote by Linklater on the commentary track I think where he says, "You can't go back." And to me that sort of sums up the sentiment, both positive and negative.

Yeah you definitely see both sides. You get the ones like Wooderson where high school it the pinnacle and it is all downhill from there, and then you get the geeks in the car with Beck's wife who can't wait to get away and start life proper
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 15, 2018, 03:48:40 PM
4K restoration of Fat City.  It might just be John Huston's best film amongst many great films.

Original Italian version of Companeros.  Still my favourite Corbucci film, and Franco Nero's got a great look in it.

Cockfighter.  First time in 25-odd years, and I'm sure I last saw it on TV (probably in a very heavily cut version).  Maybe Warren Oates' best performance.

Bridge of Spies.  Second viewing, this time with Mrs Nose.  A lot more humour in it than I remembered.  I still like it a lot. 
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on June 15, 2018, 11:43:35 PM
4K restoration of Fat City.  It might just be John Huston's best film amongst many great films.
It really is so good, maybe Conrad L Hall's best shot film too. Remember being borderline bewildered when i saw it that it wasn't constantly mentioned as being among his best or among the best boxing/sports films.

Seems to be getting a lot of love the last few years though thankfully. Might even get to see it in a cinema myself some day. I think I'd stubbornly hold out for 35mm though, that film on an aged as fuck 35mm reel would be hella sweet
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shaky on June 17, 2018, 10:58:29 AM
Yeah, the huge-mouthed girl vampire featured on the cover is actually the original face designed for the Library Ghost from the beginning of Ghostbusters, which was rejected for being too scary.

No, Dandrige's final form was the unused GB puppet.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 17, 2018, 01:36:31 PM
No, Dandrige's final form was the unused GB puppet.

Huh.  I just checked and you're absolutely correct.  Weird.  Like Avril Lavigne, I had it in my head that it was the other one.  Who knew?!  Well, you did, I suppose but I was being rhetorical.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Avril Lavigne on June 17, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
No, Dandrige's final form was the unused GB puppet.

Source?

Edit: Okay I just did some research and I see that you're right! It's weird that they don't explain that specifically in the Ghostbusters Ultimate Visual History book and just vaguely refer to the design being reused in Fright Night. I assumed it was the girl's face because that's by far the scariest visual in the movie, I think.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 17, 2018, 10:39:36 PM
Source?

Edit: Okay I just did some research and I see that you're right! It's weird that they don't explain that specifically in the Ghostbusters Ultimate Visual History book and just vaguely refer to the design being reused in Fright Night. I assumed it was the girl's face because that's by far the scariest visual in the movie, I think.

I haven't read that book and I can't recall where I initially heard the relevant factoid but a similar assumption must have happened with myself, in terms of getting mixed up about which creature was originally planned for Ghostbusters, as I agree that the toothy grinning girl is the scariest visual in the movie (with the Evil Ed wolf creature coming in a distant second place).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 17, 2018, 10:52:53 PM
Remember being borderline bewildered when i saw it that it wasn't constantly mentioned as being among his best or among the best boxing/sports films.

Probably because Huston basically raped Susan Tyrell several times during the making of it. 
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Avril Lavigne on June 17, 2018, 10:58:59 PM
I haven't read that book and I can't recall where I initially heard the relevant factoid but a similar assumption must have happened with myself, in terms of getting mixed up about which creature was originally planned for Ghostbusters, as I agree that the toothy grinning girl is the scariest visual in the movie (with the Evil Ed wolf creature coming in a distant second place).

The Ultimate Visual History books are great, each one focuses on a specific film/franchise and collects an exhaustive amount of information and pictures but they also include a bunch of pull-out souvenirs.  For example the Ghostbusters one has removable recreations of various original design documents & script notes from pre-production and even an animation cel from the cartoon, and the Back To The Future book has things like a receipt from the Cafe '80s and a lenticular scale-accurate version of the photo of Marty and his brother and sister, which makes Marty disappear if you turn it left or right. They're generally around £20 but well worth the money if you're interested in that kind of thing.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shaky on June 17, 2018, 11:35:38 PM
I'm no expert on Fright Night but I just recall reading about the puppet several times over the years and there are pics online etc. The vampire chick would've been far too much for a PG film, I think. It still shits me up a fair bit!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on June 18, 2018, 12:04:49 PM
The Ultimate Visual History books are great, each one focuses on a specific film/franchise and collects an exhaustive amount of information and pictures but they also include a bunch of pull-out souvenirs.  For example the Ghostbusters one has removable recreations of various original design documents & script notes from pre-production and even an animation cel from the cartoon, and the Back To The Future book has things like a receipt from the Cafe '80s and a lenticular scale-accurate version of the photo of Marty and his brother and sister, which makes Marty disappear if you turn it left or right. They're generally around £20 but well worth the money if you're interested in that kind of thing.

Those books sound great.  I'll check them out to be sure.  I've got a similar book for the first Alien film, titled Alien Vault.  It's clearly been produced with real passion for the film.   Like the Ultimate Visual History books, it also comes with a bunch of nifty pull-out souvenirs (including a screen accurate sew-on Nostromo patch).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on June 18, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
Probably because Huston basically raped Susan Tyrell several times during the making of it.
That'd be a reason why it would receive a backlash now.


My Name is Joe
Peter Mullan is very good when he's given a half decent project to work with.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: SteveDave on June 19, 2018, 09:44:31 AM
The Ghoul I can't tell if it thought it was cleverer than it was or I'm just thick.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 19, 2018, 10:13:22 AM
That'd be a reason why it would receive a backlash now.


My Name is Joe
Peter Mullan is very good when he's given a half decent project to work with.

He plays a good troubled mess very well; this and Tyrannosaur are both excellent.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 19, 2018, 01:20:54 PM
The Ghoul I can't tell if it thought it was cleverer than it was or I'm just thick.

I thought it was just thoroughly dull.  Fuck knows what Kim Newman sees in it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: SteveDave on June 19, 2018, 01:23:49 PM
I thought it was just thoroughly dull.  Fuck knows what Kim Newman sees in it.

I was hoping it was going to go somewhere weird but it seemed to run out of steam.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 22, 2018, 08:40:45 PM
The Violent Four (AKA Bandits In Milan) - wonderful little film with an amazing realistic bustling city car chase that predates The French Connection by three years.

High Crimes - a film I've wanted to see for years, and have owned for years, but somehow just never got around to it.  Hugely disappointed.  I normally like Franco Nero, even when he's dialled it up a little bit, but he's just embarrassing to watch in this.  One of the few nihilistic gritty thrillers from that era that really hasn't aged at all well.

A Pistol For Ringo and The Return of Ringo - Pistol is a lot lighter than I remembered it and surely an influence on the Terence Hill films and Sergio Corbucci's move into comedy in the early 70s.  Not really my cup of tea.  Return is much better and a total 180 - miserable.

The Last Jedi (second viewing) - abysmal.  Absolutely abysmal.  Even worse than on the big screen.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 23, 2018, 12:14:05 AM
I watched The Burmese Harp (1956) the other day. Hard not to be moved by it even though I'd read the book and knew the story. It's very strikingly and poignantly told and doesn't shy away from showing piles of dead bodies which always adds to it.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 24, 2018, 01:02:37 AM
Guys and Dolls. Somehow besides the Havana scene (especially the fight) and the sewer crap game this did not grab me at all. I found the leads (Brando and Sinatra) a bit droopy.

Shadows in Paradise. Typical Kaurismäki fare, which I do not say at all disparagingly. Really quite liked this but it didn't sparkle for me like some of his other films.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 24, 2018, 09:20:56 AM
Ghostbusters, the new one, second viewing.  I didn't mind it first time around, but then I was watching it with other people and it was broken up a little bit with chats in between, whereas last night I watched it all the way through just with Mrs Nose.  Pretty bad, actually.  And I REALLY don't get why you lot rate Kate McKinnon so highly.  "Oh, I'll just be a little bit odd and do some schtick like Will Ferrell".  Yeah, amazing.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 24, 2018, 10:16:25 AM
Guys and Dolls. Somehow besides the Havana scene (especially the fight) and the sewer crap game this did not grab me at all. I found the leads (Brando and Sinatra) a bit droopy.

I saw that recently and whilst I liked it a bit more than you did I had a lot of issues with it as well, most of the songs are pretty bland and it's overlong and then some, and I'm surprised many rate it so highly.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 25, 2018, 09:21:51 AM
Some more Kaurismäki:

Drifting Clouds. This was terrific. The slow decline was so masterfully executed, and then the success of the restaurant at the end really moved me.

A rewatch of Leningrad Cowboys Go America. Moved up from a 9/10 wowser to a 10/10 definite fucking classic for me. Everything about it is just spot on. And so funny! But still retains that trademark Kaurismäki love of humanity with the shots in neighbourhoods and real people in the bars and so on.

I saw that recently and whilst I liked it a bit more than you did I had a lot of issues with it as well, most of the songs are pretty bland and it's overlong and then some, and I'm surprised many rate it so highly.
I'm with you there. Quite uninspired. I did enjoy the opening scene though as well.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: mothman on June 25, 2018, 05:52:27 PM
I saw Dunkirk over the weekend and was impressed. It’s less of a movie, more an immersive experience. The varying time periods was clever, but while I was able to accept the Sea story took place over a day, I never felt like the Beach took a whole week, nor that Air was just an hour.

One thing that was glaring for me was pilot Collins closing his canopy before ditching. Everyone knows you open the canopy before you ditch. Granted closing it was part of his bottling out of bailing out, but still. Plus the Spitfires had a special tool in the cockpit to deal with such situations.

Apparently Tom Hardy’s character Farrier was based on a real pilot who flew till he couldn’t anymore, landed on the beach then managed to get on one of the last ships to leave (punching a Navy officer on the nose when he tried to stop him). And he survived the war too. But the the real-life analogue of Branagh’s Commander Bolton, on the other hand, stayed to see everyone off before leaving... and was then killed when his ship was sunk.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on June 26, 2018, 12:45:28 AM
Some more Abel Ferrara:

Cat Chaser. Somehow they could get Abel Ferrara to director an Elmore Leonard adaptation starring Peter Weller, Charles Durning and Tomas Milian and make it not very good at all. I guess TV doesn't suit Ferrara at all.

King of New York. This was pretty great. A weird sort of lack of real plot but a grimy icky vibe throughout which stayed with me more than anything that actually happened. Walken is an unsettling menacing presence in this.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: chveik on June 26, 2018, 12:56:21 AM
I love The King of New York too. Walken looks like Nosferatu in this. I suppose it's intentional.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on June 26, 2018, 02:56:30 PM
Watched Subway by Luc Besson and it was good. I liked the song!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 26, 2018, 07:58:59 PM
I've made it through the two year period where David A Prior made 11 movies (quality flew out of the window, a bit) and am now in the second stage of his career, where he appears to have spent more money and got proper actors and stuff. "Raw Nerve" was the gem I watched last night, and rather than being confusing and cheap and no good whatsoever, it's just a bit average and boring. It's like a distillation of everything that was ever in a VHS rental shop under the label "thriller".
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on June 27, 2018, 07:01:21 PM
Went back to Bergman's Persona for the first time in probably 20 years, wish I'v done it sooner but I spose also a case of my taste catching up to it and the years since. If anything it actually feels more modern now with stuff like Mulholland Drive and Black Swan having come out since and the general popularity of intense closeup heavy dramas.

Still I confess not entirely sure what it was all about, the fracturing of a single person? something to do with the artifice of cinema/acting and the pressure towards motherhood? still very effective dramatically(and I sometimes have some trouble with even European new wave acting) even with that uncertainly and incredible visually, probably a good candidate for the most erotic scene ever filmed as well despite showing nothing.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 27, 2018, 07:32:28 PM
Hancock (2008) - Fairly amusing fantasy antics where Will Smith's an arsehole superhero, until Jason Bateman sets him on the straight and narrow. At least until about half way through when it turns out that it's a weird relationship drama too, and both Smith and Jason Bateman's wife are immortals who have been around for thousands of years. Which I wasn't expecting. It's an odd mix, and there's not enough of Smith acting the twat, and the cgi flying sequences have aged badly, but it's a bemusing enough way to spend a couple of hours. 6.9/10
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Post by: AsparagusTrevor on June 28, 2018, 10:36:45 AM
Hancock (2008) - Fairly amusing fantasy antics where Will Smith's an arsehole superhero, until Jason Bateman sets him on the straight and narrow. At least until about half way through when it turns out that it's a weird relationship drama too, and both Smith and Jason Bateman's wife are immortals who have been around for thousands of years. Which I wasn't expecting. It's an odd mix, and there's not enough of Smith acting the twat, and the cgi flying sequences have aged badly, but it's a bemusing enough way to spend a couple of hours. 6.9/10

The first half is quite good but it really turns to shit with the aforementioned wife stuff. it would've been better just to have a film about a washed-up, arsehole superhero.
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Post by: Blumf on June 28, 2018, 12:00:22 PM
I remember at the time thinking it was like they'd squeezed two different films together. It's not a terrible film, but it is an interesting failure.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 28, 2018, 11:57:44 PM
I remember at the time thinking it was like they'd squeezed two different films together. It's not a terrible film, but it is an interesting failure.

I have a real fondness for movies which do such a thing, it doesn't quite work here but at least it was something a bit different.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on June 29, 2018, 05:03:24 PM
Superhero Movie (2008) - I know 99% of you will think I'm an idiot (and it probably is the case) but I quite enjoyed this. Sure there's some weak and dodgy jokes, some of which are very childish, but there's a fair few decent ones too, and the supporting cast includes Jeffrey Tambor, Brent Spiner, Keith David, Tracey Morgan, Leslie Nielsen and Ryan Hansen. It's short and tight at 70 minutes, though there's a further 7 minutes of deleted scenes half way through the credits. A very guilty pleasure. 6.2/10
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on June 29, 2018, 10:15:25 PM
Vampires Suck, from the same stable, kept me amused during a time I was off work, all flu-ey.
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Post by: zomgmouse on June 30, 2018, 06:53:55 AM
Bad Lieutenant. Nasty piece of work, the nastiest Ferrara I've seen so far. To get a character like that some inkling of redemption and then have him get randomly blown to bits, fuck me. Keitel's performance is magnificent in this. Really unpleasant stuff but so compelling. The bit with him wailing in the church, my god!
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Post by: Neomod on June 30, 2018, 11:20:05 AM
I've seen the original but last night watched the restored version of Once Upon a Time in America.

A majestic piece of work.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on June 30, 2018, 05:34:19 PM
I've seen the original but last night watched the restored version of Once Upon a Time in America.

A majestic piece of work.

Stay away from the restored The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.  It's very......yellow.  And that dubbed dialogue in the additional scenes - yiesh.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 02, 2018, 12:09:44 AM
Force Majeure (2014) - Like the directors follow up, The Square, this is about a seemingly decent man making a poor decision and then suffering the consequences. A study of masculinity, patriarchy and the nature of fear, it's an interesting piece but flabby and ultimately doesn't have a lot to say, and The Square covered such ideas in a far more thought provoking way. 6.4/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 02, 2018, 01:30:25 AM
Body Double - daft film where the protagonist wouldn't have had half as many problems had he not being a dirty fucker.

Still at least I know where Troy Mclure's house is from.
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Post by: Bazooka on July 02, 2018, 11:52:38 AM
Watched Gran Torino, its fucking awful.
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Post by: Swoz_MK on July 02, 2018, 11:54:09 AM
Saw The Hateful Eight for the first time last night as it's now on UK Netflix. It was far funnier (and longer) than I expected and everyone in it (ok, there aren't that many) was excellent.
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Post by: Eianz on July 02, 2018, 12:39:23 PM
The Last of the Mohicans and Vertigo
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on July 02, 2018, 03:54:01 PM
Into the Night (1985)

This popped up in my Netflix recommendation recently. John Landis directing Jeff Goldblum and Michelle Pfeiffer in a crime caper that also includes David Bowie as a spivvy hitman - yeah that sounds like a laugh. And it was... occasionally.

This has to be one of the most tonally inconsistent films I've ever seen. Long scenes of Goldblum's alienated loser protagonist pottering about in near silence are interrupted by the occasional big laugh or act of horrific violence. It's really quite bizarre and I wonder if it was a result of Landis attempting some sort of self-therapy after the disaster on the set of the Twilight Zone movie.
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Post by: SteveDave on July 03, 2018, 02:41:17 PM
I saw this the other week and laughed heartily at David Bowie's tache and his channelling of "Nudge Nudge Wink Wink" when him and Goldblum are stood in the doorway where they first meet. I also liked Dave's knife fight with Carl Perkins.

The cameo's are worth looking at too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_the_Night_(film)#Cameo_appearances
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Post by: SteveDave on July 05, 2018, 10:21:01 AM
Beyond The Black Rainbow

It looked and sounded lovely but I couldn't tell you why anything that happened happened.
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Post by: Monsieur Verdoux on July 06, 2018, 01:01:26 AM
Poulet au vinaigre by Claude Chabrol

Solid. Lead guy was quite flat, but the supporting cast was full of detail and colour. Inspector Lavardin is a steely-eyed motherfucker.

It Is Gradiva That Is Calling You by Alain Robbe-Grillet

Another compelling masterpiece from MY BOY. Loved it from beginning to end. Always found it weird that Robbe-Grillet, a painter, was always kind of awkward when it came to shot composition. A lot of the cinematography in his films is quite pedestrian. Anyway, really loved getting lost in this, don't ask me for a plot synopsis.

Rendez-vous by André Téchiné

Pretty compelling. Feels like a series fascinating fragments that don't quite gel. The central theatrical motif never really came alive. The young Lambert Wilson was a snack

Parking by Jacques Demy

Absolutely dreadful. What the fuck happened here. Awful lead, awful singer, awful songs. Looks cheap and dried out. Demy is one of those guys who misfires spectacularly when he does
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 06, 2018, 01:08:00 AM
Rashomon (1950) - Nice to finally tick this off my  'To Watch' list. Great stuff. Nice simple idea, keeps you guessing, and is beautifully shot. ****

The Big Sick (2017) - Found this a bit grating at first, but around halfway through I was won round. Ray Romano and Holly Hunter are great as the girl's parents, and him out of Silicon Valley is very good too. Made me laff a fair few times. ****
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Post by: greenman on July 06, 2018, 12:36:43 PM
Uzak by Nuri Bilge Ceylan

First thing I'v seen by him, I admit partly for the draw of a fellow photographer being a lead character putting up a country relative in his Istanbul flat. Very much towards subtly and atmosphere, mostly men lounging around a flat watching Tarkovsky(and the odd bit of porn or fashion TV when alone) or wandering around a snowclad Istanbul  looking for work or equally vain attempts to meet women. Very well done indeed though I'd say both in terms of performance and understated but well handled visuals(the shot of the sudden boat in the habour especially is brilliant), indeed does actually feel a bit ahead of its time with a lot of modern arty cinema but at the arse end of the analog era(both infront of and behind the lens) in 2002. No I'm not at all similar to the lead character, I don't smoke.

Mauvais Sang by Leos Carax

Slowly working my way though his career, I can definitely understand the recent comment about it being rather up itself in terms of kooky newavisms which perhaps stand out more here than Boy Meets Girl as you have them mixed with both a nominal plot and more in the way of contemporary look. Certainly has some outstanding visuals to it not least of which Binoche is insanely pretty in it(most obvious showbiz relationship in history between her and Carax) although its probably going to come down to whether you like Denis Lavant in full flow running/flipping down the street to Bowie punching himself in the stomach and so forth or not. Generally I am a fan but call me a pervy philistine, I still think I preffer Betty Blue for Cinema De Look, a bit more heart to it.
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Post by: greenman on July 06, 2018, 12:41:25 PM
Saw The Hateful Eight for the first time last night as it's now on UK Netflix. It was far funnier (and longer) than I expected and everyone in it (ok, there aren't that many) was excellent.

Honestly having watched it a couple more times at home I'm coming around to the idea it might be his best films since Pulp Fiction, the only real negative being that largely pointless flashback.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 08, 2018, 11:06:58 PM
Just seen Jaws for the first time in a fairly packed cinema. What an experience that film is. Faultless.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 09, 2018, 12:35:29 AM
Just seen Jaws for the first time in a fairly packed cinema. What an experience that film is. Faultless.

People say that the shark looks fake but it looks real enough to me.  That sequence where it chomps on Robert Shaw?  Pure nightmare fuel.
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Post by: BlodwynPig on July 09, 2018, 01:21:20 AM
I have become impatient. I can't watch anything new. Turning off with boredom after 10 minutes or maybe slightly longer. My landlady has Netflix and I cannot find anything engaging, so have returned for the 3rd time to Mothman Prophecies...Richard Gere's best film, the last vestiges of X-Files stylisation in cinema, some old-school 90s Hollywood camerawork mixed with pretty decent curve balls on the score and editing. A reliable film when everything else seems so mundane.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 09, 2018, 02:04:17 AM
Please Stand By (2017) - An autistic Star Trek fan goes on a road trip so that she can enter a script in to a competition run by Paramount in LA. Starts off well but the journey is a dull one, there's the odd cute moment and the performances are all strong but the script is lacking. 5.7/10
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 09, 2018, 08:27:25 AM
People say that the shark looks fake but it looks real enough to me.  That sequence where it chomps on Robert Shaw?  Pure nightmare fuel.

I've always said old Bruce looks pretty fucking good even now - also that bit where Brody's up on the crow's nest stabbing him, it looks like a real great white to me.  Compare that to any CGI shark in any of the numerous subsequent shark films, even the proper mainstream ones like Deep Blue Sea.


I have become impatient. I can't watch anything new. Turning off with boredom after 10 minutes or maybe slightly longer. My landlady has Netflix and I cannot find anything engaging, so have returned for the 3rd time to Mothman Prophecies...Richard Gere's best film, the last vestiges of X-Files stylisation in cinema, some old-school 90s Hollywood camerawork mixed with pretty decent curve balls on the score and editing. A reliable film when everything else seems so mundane.

Not his best film for me (Days of Heaven gets that title, although his best performance for me is probably Internal Affairs, even though the film itself suffers from a few iffy things), but I've always loved Mothman Prophecies.  Nice low key and measured eeriness throughout with everyone playing it totally straight.  Give me that over yer Blair Witch or Babadook bollocks any day of the week.



Bit of a Netflix fest yesterday:
Dragon Blade - John Cusack as a Roman general ("in the 63rd corps" - spoken like a true American) and Jackie Chan as a Chinese silk road guard going up against Adrien Brody as another Roman general cos of a blind kid.  Total dogshit.

The Finest Hours - fairly dull for what should be an inspiring true story, but watchable.

USS Indianapolis Men of Courage - REALLY cheap looking dross that just makes you pine for Mission of the Shark.  Also makes you wonder if Mario Van Peebles was trying to apologise for another shark-water crime in his past...
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 09, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
USS Indianapolis Men of Courage - REALLY cheap looking dross that just makes you pine for Mission of the Shark.  Also makes you wonder if Mario Van Peebles was trying to apologise for another shark-water crime in his past...

When it was first announced that this film had been greenlit, I was stoked.  Then a while later, it was announced that Nicolas Cage had been cast in the lead role.  My enthusiasm deflated very quickly after that.  That's not to say that Cage hasn't turned in a good performance over the years (Raising Arizona springs to mind) but by and large, he's in an awful lot of dross and more often than not, turn in a ridiculously hammy performance.

Going by your assessment, it seems that I was right to be wary.
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Post by: SteveDave on July 09, 2018, 12:56:36 PM
Event Horizon as the wife hadn't seen it. Still incredible. Also features Teresa May (not that one) on the pin up that Sam Neill uses to explain how the drive thing works. My wife was impressed by my knowledge of 90s wank fodder.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 09, 2018, 01:36:10 PM
When it was first announced that this film had been greenlit, I was stoked.  Then a while later, it was announced that Nicolas Cage had been cast in the lead role.  My enthusiasm deflated very quickly after that.  That's not to say that Cage hasn't turned in a good performance over the years (Raising Arizona springs to mind) but by and large, he's in an awful lot of dross and more often than not, turn in a ridiculously hammy performance.

Going by your assessment, it seems that I was right to be wary.

Whilst it was being made there was quite a lot of positive buzz surrounding it, at least for a medium-low budget film - they did a lot of research and made sure things were as accurate as they could be whilst still allowing for dramatic licence (so the only "goofs" in the film are minor anachronisms like using vehicles that wouldn't come into existence until a few years later, or combining two or three characters into one - that kind of stuff [mind you, the sharks are all great whites, which is a fairly major error]), plus Van Peebles was coming off the back of almost uniformally excellent TV work.  But, as we all know, being a decent TV director does not automatically translate to being a decent film director (just ask Danny Cannon), and the script was written by two producers.

RE Cage's performance...I would say "earnest" over ridiculously hammy.  We're not talking The Wicker Man remake, for example.  The ridiculously hammy award instead goes to Tom Sizemore, who can't cark it quick enough. 

By far the worst things about it are the dreadful effects and abysmal script. 

It remains - if you want to watch a decent film about the Indianapolis, watch Jaws and Mission of the Shark.


Event Horizon as the wife hadn't seen it. Still incredible. Also features Teresa May (not that one) on the pin up that Sam Neill uses to explain how the drive thing works. My wife was impressed by my knowledge of 90s wank fodder.

D'you know, the number of times I've seen Event Horizon I've NEVER clocked that... One of my TVX favourites - up there with Lynda Leigh and Kerry Matthews.

Be nice if someone found the deleted footage one day.  It must be out there somewhere.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 09, 2018, 02:46:47 PM
True Stories. I enjoyed it but am not sure how much I would have liked it without the Talking Heads connection. I loved some of the versions of the songs by the cast members and it is an interesting look into small-town America. It is pretty insubstantial and I am not sure what the whole thing was really all about but it passed the time.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 09, 2018, 04:33:02 PM
...It remains - if you want to watch a decent film about the Indianapolis, watch Jaws and Mission of the Shark.

Thanks for the recommendations.  I've downloaded a copy of Mission of the Shark and will watch it soon.  I don't know about this "Jaws" film though... bit obscure and hard to find.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 09, 2018, 05:08:21 PM
True Stories. I enjoyed it but am not sure how much I would have liked it without the Talking Heads connection. I loved some of the versions of the songs by the cast members and it is an interesting look into small-town America. It is pretty insubstantial and I am not sure what the whole thing was really all about but it passed the time.
The popular thought at the time was that Byrne had picked rather low-hanging fruit - "is there anything easier to parody than Lone Star crazies?" was a line from a review I'm no doubt remembering badly - but good on him for giving it a bash, I guess.
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Post by: Junglist on July 09, 2018, 05:14:25 PM
Capricorn One - Enjoyable but damn it appears to have aged badly
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 09, 2018, 05:15:30 PM
Thanks for the recommendations.  I've downloaded a copy of Mission of the Shark and will watch it soon.

Just bear in mind when you're watching it that it IS a 90s made for TV film, so it does have those tropes and will seem a bit cheap compared to a "proper" film.  But it's not bad at all, despite having David Caruso in it.


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I don't know about this "Jaws" film though... bit obscure and hard to find.

I think this is it: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0081677/ (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0081677/)
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 09, 2018, 05:18:03 PM
Capricorn One - Enjoyable but damn it appears to have aged badly

You know my favourite bit of that film?  When Hal Holbrook gives them that talk.  I fucking LOVE that scene.  I have a lot of time for that film.  A lot of time.
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Post by: Junglist on July 09, 2018, 05:28:14 PM
You know my favourite bit of that film?  When Hal Holbrook gives them that talk.  I fucking LOVE that scene.  I have a lot of time for that film.  A lot of time.

Yeah that was class, he just dominated the scene. The Elliott Gould car scene is delightfully 70s
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Post by: Junglist on July 09, 2018, 09:44:14 PM
To my shame, and considering I see film as my main passion, I finally got around to watching The Godfather today. Its really not half bad is it.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 09, 2018, 10:07:23 PM
The popular thought at the time was that Byrne had picked rather low-hanging fruit - "is there anything easier to parody than Lone Star crazies?" was a line from a review I'm no doubt remembering badly - but good on him for giving it a bash, I guess.

It didn't seem like a parody to me so much as an affectionate homage.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 09, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
To my shame, and considering I see film as my main passion, I finally got around to watching The Godfather today. Its really not half bad is it.

It's a great film.  Most people seem to prefer The Godfather: Part II, which is also great but lacks Marlon Brando and is therefore not as great as the first film, in my opinion.  The Godfather: Part III is gubbins though, which most people will attest to.
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Post by: Z on July 09, 2018, 10:12:08 PM
I'm not that keen on Brando in the first one, one of the upsides of the second one is that it's free from dealing with him. Second one has loads more John Cazale too.

Haven't seen either since I was in school, mind.
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Post by: Junglist on July 09, 2018, 10:29:01 PM
I found Brando, in those opening scenes, terrifying as a character. As it went on, and after that moment, he was basically irrelevant. All about Pacino and Caan, even if Caan's whiffed punch is hilarious.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 09, 2018, 10:33:44 PM
I'm not that keen on Brando in the first one...

Aw, Brando is fantastic in the The Godfather.

Proof. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sIYe74sczE)

More proof. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rbfuw0UN2A)
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Post by: greenman on July 09, 2018, 10:36:19 PM
Pacino is more fantastic in Godfather 2 though I'd say.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 09, 2018, 10:58:03 PM
Pacino is more fantastic in Godfather 2 though I'd say.

He was making up for how hammy he is in The Godfather: Part III, in advance.
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Post by: BlodwynPig on July 09, 2018, 11:10:55 PM
To my shame, and considering I see film as my main passion, I finally got around to watching The Godfather today. Its really not half bad is it.

I had my baptism last year and underwent the same revelation.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 10, 2018, 12:35:20 AM
The Doom Generation (1995) - I'm a big fan of director Gregg Araki but this is a weak effort, with a lot of the script being really clunky and forced. It's the epitome of 90s indie filmmaking with overly stylised dialogue and a fair sprinkling of sex and violence, but whilst I liked the odd moment it's all too often a ridiculous affair that feels rather amateurish, and the ending is just shit. 5.4/10
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 10, 2018, 09:57:01 AM
White Palace (1990) - A young James Spader meets an older lady (an insanely gorgeous Susan Sarandon) and they begin an intense and difficult relationship.

I really like both Sarandon and Spader, and this was a really well written and directed love story. Good stuff. Dunno where Harold and Kumar were at, mind.

4 bangers
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Post by: phantom_power on July 10, 2018, 11:02:21 AM
Turkey Shoot - Turkey Shite more like.
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Post by: Neomod on July 10, 2018, 07:41:52 PM
Still at least I know where Troy Mclure's house is from.

Ah yes, Lautner's Chemosphere.
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Post by: Gulftastic on July 10, 2018, 08:06:43 PM
Pacino is more fantastic in Godfather 2 though I'd say.

If you'd only ever seen Pacino in his later career, you'd have no idea how truly brilliant an actor he used to be. His transformation in the first Godfather film from young optimistic bloke to murderous mob boss is a wonder to behold.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 10, 2018, 11:42:22 PM
Turkey Shoot - Turkey Shite more like.
Which one? The Aussie one from the early 80s or the remake with Dominic Purcell? Cos...well, I've never seen the original one (which goes by the excellent alternate title "Blood Camp Thatcher") but the remake is absolute shite.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 10, 2018, 11:50:16 PM
45 Years (2015) - An older, retired couple are getting ready to throw a party to celebrate 45 years of marriage, when suddenly some hidden things from the past come to light.

This is really quiet, understated, and slow, but I really found myself engrossed. The way the seemingly very happy marriage is gradually revealed to actually have some deep rooted issues, and the couple's reaction to them, I found fascinating.

It's a really well written film, and Charlotte Rampling and Tom Courtenay are fantastic in the lead roles. Well worth a watch, if you like this kind of thing

4 Chelsea buns
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Post by: zomgmouse on July 11, 2018, 02:18:59 AM
Carefree. One of the lesser-known Astaire/Rogers films, still light enough with a decent farcical plotline though the musical numbers aren't as vivacious and there's not quite as much of their usual spark. Still fairly enjoyable.

Hellzapoppin'. SMBH will be glad to know I've finally watched this one. The beginning half-hour or so in particular was nuts. I loved it. Once it got into the plot-in-a-plot section there was still a whole lot of delightful anarchy but not quite as freewheeling as that beginning bit. Still a lot to love here. STINKY MILLER GO HOME.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 11, 2018, 08:24:28 AM
Which one? The Aussie one from the early 80s or the remake with Dominic Purcell? Cos...well, I've never seen the original one (which goes by the excellent alternate title "Blood Camp Thatcher") but the remake is absolute shite.

The original. I was expecting an ultra-violent sleazy exploitation film but it didn't really deliver. I was being a bit harsh there for the pun as it wasn't actually shit just a bit disappointing. There are some good nasty, sadistic villains and grim deaths but it didn't really deliver on the gore front. Maybe I saw a censored version or maybe it just wasn't what I was expecting. It was nice to see a couple of faces from Mad Max in there as well
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 11, 2018, 01:58:13 PM
Carefree. One of the lesser-known Astaire/Rogers films, still light enough with a decent farcical plotline though the musical numbers aren't as vivacious and there's not quite as much of their usual spark. Still fairly enjoyable.

Hellzapoppin'. SMBH will be glad to know I've finally watched this one. The beginning half-hour or so in particular was nuts. I loved it. Once it got into the plot-in-a-plot section there was still a whole lot of delightful anarchy but not quite as freewheeling as that beginning bit. Still a lot to love here. STINKY MILLER GO HOME.

I'm really glad to hear that you liked it so much, as otherwise it would have meant the end of our friendship as that's just how much I love the film!
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Post by: Hundhoon on July 12, 2018, 03:50:55 AM
I really liked Heavenly Creatures (1994) the film that launched Kate Winslet and made Peter Jackson a big deal in Hollywood. only saw it the other day.
Visually stunning
Set in New Zealand post WW2 years.. posh English immigrant Kate Winslet becomes friends with working class Kiwi girl, form close bond, it ends with them becoming murders.

Its just what Jackson does when presenting New Zealand he always makes it look like a Narnia-esque dreamland. he has probably done more for tourism in that country than anyone, very likeable characters very unusual atmosphere.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 12, 2018, 10:07:14 AM
Yeah, that's a really good film. Kate Winslet is sexy when she's being all evil and murderous.

Pity Jackson doesn't seem interested in making those kinds of films these days. Though he did make Lovely Bones about ten years ago, which I quite enjoyed
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 12, 2018, 02:04:10 PM
The LOTR trilogy has REALLY lost its sheen for me in the wake of the abysmal Hobbit films, although the extended cut of The Two Towers is still great.  I was never much into his early bad taste (pun intended) stuff either, and I was totally non-plussed about The Lovely Bones (although the death at the end was almost worth the wait), so his best films for me are still The Frighteners and Forgotten Silver.

Also, what's going on with Mortal Engines?  When I saw a trailer for it at the cinema a little while ago it proclaimed "A Peter Jackson film" and "the new movie from Peter Jackson", yet I only recently clocked it's not actually directed by him but by his old mate Christian Rivers.  Is that cos Rivers isn't a name, or was Jackson originally directing before stepping away or something?
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 12, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
Forgotten Silver.

Blimey, I'd never heard of that before now, and I used to be a big fan of Jackson's. Will watch it as soon as I can though, as it sounds really interesting.
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Post by: zomgmouse on July 13, 2018, 03:57:19 AM
I've been wanting to see that for aaaages. It looks so cool.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 13, 2018, 11:17:53 AM
I've been wanting to see that for aaaages. It looks so cool.

I obtained it yesterday via the pirate bay and plan to watch it over the weekend.
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 13, 2018, 11:59:28 AM
Blimey, I'd never heard of that before now, and I used to be a big fan of Jackson's. Will watch it as soon as I can though, as it sounds really interesting.
Eh, it's alright. I remember being impressed Jackson had made something so niche and film-nerdy, while not hugely enjoying the finished product. Your mileage may vary, of course.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 13, 2018, 02:04:50 PM
I think it's brilliant.  Admittedly if stretched over full feature length it might outstay its welcome, but as a tight sub-hour it's perfect, especially with everyone playing it so straight.


Had a bit of a Peckinpah binge last night - Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, The Getaway and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1988 preview cut).  I DO like Alfredo Garcia, but for me it's always been the weaker of his classic films.  The other two are tops, though.  That hotel shoot-out in The Getaway is amazing.
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Post by: mothman on July 13, 2018, 02:52:11 PM
Be nice if someone found the deleted footage one day.  It must be out there somewhere.

There's deleted footage from Event Horizon? Always going to remember that film because I saw it the night Diana died, and on the train up (we went to see it in Leics Sq) we were talking about what a shit time the Royal Family was having, and concluded that what they needed was a nice big royal funeral. The next morning...

Of all the early MCU films, I've never seen Thor or Captain America ("the First Avenger"). Being laid up, I watched the latter yesterday. A fairly decent origin story, but I was struck by how little actually happens; of course there's lots of good character work, how could there not be with Tucci, two Joneses and Weaving in the mix? But a twenty minutes added on in one of the other films could have covered it; I think it's also one of the lower-grossing movies? Given how much Rogers' and Barnes' friendship will come into play in later films, it's incredible how little time they have onscreen together. But I'm impressed that Red Skull's fate was so ambiguous (or even downright odd, it must have seemed at the time) and that it would eventually be revisited more than a dozen films later. And that they spent so much time and money on a world-building film knowing that most of that world would be immediately discarded. I never saw the Agent Carter series wo don't know how much of Captain America acts as a backdoor pilot for it.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 13, 2018, 06:37:45 PM
There's deleted footage from Event Horizon? Always going to remember that film because I saw it the night Diana died, and on the train up (we went to see it in Leics Sq) we were talking about what a shit time the Royal Family was having, and concluded that what they needed was a nice big royal funeral. The next morning...

Anderson's original cut was something like two and a quarter hours long and included a lot more gore from the Event Horizon crew going a tad mental and more dialogue scenes.  If memory serves it was Anderson himself who cut it as he thought it was awful, blaming the unreasonable short time he was given for post production and editing, but most other people (a test audience made up of cast, crew, studio folk and some Joe Publics) who saw that original cut claimed it was verging on being a modern horror masterpiece.

All of that cut footage was thought to be lost, but someone found a very rough VHS recording someone made and that tape is currently in the hands of either Anderson or Jeremy Bolt and remains unwatched.  Extremely unlikely anything will be done with it as the quality is, apparently, way beyond being able to do anything proper with it (I seem to remember reading it was a cam recording of a final edit screening), and Anderson doesn't seem all that bothered, presumably cos he's too invested in his Resident Evil pet project.  Shame, cos even in its current "hurried" state it's a really good film.
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Post by: mothman on July 13, 2018, 07:02:44 PM
Interesting. I did always feel that once things really start moving, it’s all over quite quickly. This would explain it. But to completely delete footage, in this day and age? Very odd.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 13, 2018, 09:17:17 PM
Only God Forgives.  Where does he put that sword?
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Post by: Z on July 14, 2018, 07:38:31 AM
Watched a bunch of 30 For 30s


Celts/Lakers: Best of Enemies
The duelling narration by Donnie Wahlberg and Ice Cube was really annoying.


Tommy: that guy from Rocky V who apparently was a heavyweight champion
Came across as a total douchebag, and his total denial of his health condition was a whole other level of grim too. Thought it was well dodgy that they included footage from some of his family actively blaming his girlfriend for being complicit in his denial, seemed kinda vengeful. Ended with the usual baffling "his sons are now going down the exact same career path that helped fuck their dad up, but they wont do x, y and z" redemption arc that a lot of these stories do.


What Carter Lost
Pretty solid account of a high school football team in Texas that (with the exception of one player) fucked up hugely.


Doc and Darryl
Darryl Strawberry seems like a bit of an asshole. The other guy seems like a total mess but at least isn't all self righteous about it. Hard to give a shit about either of them.
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Post by: magval on July 15, 2018, 02:00:17 AM
Watched a clinker and a stinker, there.

La Cabina: Mentioned on here many times over the years, I had three (THREE!) versions in my Youtube Watch Later list from all the times I went to watch it, finally did so tonight. As good as everyone has said. Not even saying anything else. It's fucking class altogether.

Highlander 2: The Quickening. I don't care about Highlander and haven't seen it probably in 15 years or so, but watched this for free and loved nearly every minute of it. An often badly-made, totally derivative film that nonetheless charms thanks to a bunch of outrageous and gleeful performances and the absence of obvious logic for most of its creative decisions.

Oh, and the original Godzilla, watched that the other night. Jesus he kicks the fuck of out of Tokyo, like he really properly destroys it.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 15, 2018, 02:32:23 AM
Highlander 2: The Quickening. I don't care about Highlander and haven't seen it probably in 15 years or so, but watched this for free and loved nearly every minute of it. An often badly-made, totally derivative film that nonetheless charms thanks to a bunch of outrageous and gleeful performances and the absence of obvious logic for most of its creative decisions.

Agreed.  As someone whom can count on three fingers, the number of times which I have watched the original film, I enjoyed the sequel plenty.  I can fully understand why someone who cares about the universe and continuity of the first film, would likely find the sequel to be an insult and an affront to the established mythology but as a casual admirer, I find it to be thoroughly entertaining.  Cheesy as all heck but entertaining, none the less.
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Post by: greenman on July 15, 2018, 11:45:36 AM
Agreed.  As someone whom can count on three fingers, the number of times which I have watched the original film, I enjoyed the sequel plenty.  I can fully understand why someone who cares about the universe and continuity of the first film, would likely find the sequel to be an insult and an affront to the established mythology but as a casual admirer, I find it to be thoroughly entertaining.  Cheesy as all heck but entertaining, none the less.

It really feels akin to films like Predator 2 at the arse end of the 80's action genre, not as successful IMHO but still throwing about enough greatest 80's action hits cheese to make it worth watching.

I'd say it does rather highlight as well that the obsession with the mythology that's followed rather overlooks a lot of the appeal of the original as a kind of unholy merger of MTV action and fantasy. You could argue I spose that the sequel perhaps is more along the lines of the kind of mess you'd expect from such a merger where as I think the original manages to actually craft it into a pretty great piece of cinema.

Picked up a boxset of early Polanski on the cheap, watching Repulsion again for the first time in very long time was as with Persona a much more impactful experience than I remember, again perhaps besides my tastes altering due to it being mined to an increasing degree in stuff like Black Swan. Watched Knife in the Water for the first time and certainly enjoyed it as well, honestly I think theres a case to be made that Polanski was never quite as effective visually in colour. Just Cul Du Sac to go.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 15, 2018, 12:53:06 PM
Picked up a boxset of early Polanski on the cheap, watching Repulsion again for the first time in very long time was as with Persona a much more impactful experience than I remember, again perhaps besides my tastes altering due to it being mined to an increasing degree in stuff like Black Swan. Watched Knife in the Water for the first time and certainly enjoyed it as well, honestly I think theres a case to be made that Polanski was never quite as effective visually in colour. Just Cul Du Sac to go.

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Post by: greenman on July 15, 2018, 02:47:31 PM
Shockingly offensive Polanski joke there rightly deleted.
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Post by: thecuriousorange on July 16, 2018, 12:07:26 AM
Watched Good Luck Chuck. Not a Cilla Black biopic, but a terrible rom com. Not even "Good for that type of thing". Really, really shit.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 16, 2018, 02:43:59 AM
The Homesman, was quite good. Bit bleak.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 16, 2018, 10:35:32 AM
Joy - not bad.  Maybe could do with some trimming here and there.

Brothers Grimsby - not going to lie, I laughed a lot.  Doner toaster in the living room was good.  Cohen has a huge fixation on balls and bumholes, doesn't he.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 17, 2018, 10:45:37 PM
Eye In the Sky - expected to hate it, but thought it wasn't bad.  Except for Helen Mirren.  I don't know if she was mis-cast, not bothered, or has lost it, but she's not very good in it.

Invaders From Mars, 80s Tobe Hooper remake - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, ohhhhhhh dear.  Not seen it since the late 80s and couldn't really remember anything about it other than the way the kid runs with his arms waving around, and for the most part they did away with the people disappearing in the sand (which was always the thing about the original that freaked me out).  Absolute dogshit. 

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Post by: willy crossit on July 17, 2018, 11:31:39 PM
I've got Virus (1999) on. It's on boats, thought it would be in space.

Let's give it a chance though eh
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Post by: Fabian Thomsett on July 18, 2018, 01:40:15 AM
Saw A Hard Days Night for the last first time in something like 25 years. Good, breezy fun with Wilfred Brambell playing a full-on Irish Republican (!). Favourite bit is with John Vernon as the grumpy city gent on the train 'I fought the war for your sort...'
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Post by: Dex Sawash on July 18, 2018, 03:37:25 AM
Arrival
Fucksake it's dull. Took 4 nights to watch it as I kept falling asleep.
No idea what the hell it was about.
Just a remake of Beaches (1988) isnt it?
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 18, 2018, 07:59:24 AM
Victoria (2015) - Blimey, what a great film. I didn't read anything about it beforehand, so didn't know where it was going, and it was all the better for it. A gripping, brilliant film, with fantastic performances.

4.5 bags of peanuts
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 18, 2018, 12:02:48 PM
Arrival

Grossly overrated.  Dull as dishwater cinematography.  Like Hereditary; a unnecessary exposition dump for the dummies in the audience, at the end.

11/10 - Best film of all time.
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Post by: holyzombiejesus on July 18, 2018, 12:29:24 PM
I watched most of Peppermint Soda, recently reissued by the BFI. I was so looking forward to it but it was just really irritating, particularly the bit where a young girl is looking in a mirror, pulls a face as if she's had a mild hiccup and then runs to mother saying 'I'm now a woman, I've just started my period'. Felt more like a series of cloying 'charming' vignettes rather than anything with any kind of narrative drive so I switched it off. £12 bloody quid that cost me!
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Post by: Swoz_MK on July 18, 2018, 12:31:08 PM
Let The Corpses Tan from last year is now on Amazon Prime and fuck me it is excellent. Italian Crime made by Belgians starring Romanian lass from Amateur.
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Post by: zomgmouse on July 19, 2018, 05:24:37 AM
Victoria (2015) - Blimey, what a great film. I didn't read anything about it beforehand, so didn't know where it was going, and it was all the better for it. A gripping, brilliant film, with fantastic performances.

4.5 bags of peanuts
I veeeeeeery much struggled with this one. I felt it was tense for the wrong reasons, a.k.a. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE rather than "ooh this is exciting".
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Post by: zomgmouse on July 19, 2018, 08:20:49 AM
Watched the only two films by Jack Garfein, a sorely underknown American director - he made The Strange One with Ben Gazzara and George Peppard, and Something Wild with Carroll Baker and Ralph Meeker. They're both pretty striking, in particular the latter which deals with some very heavy and uncomfortable issues. Highly recommend both!

Also watched You Are Not I, a film by Sara Driver, which was weirdly eerie and atmospheric.
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Post by: greenman on July 19, 2018, 10:58:37 AM
Grossly overrated.  Dull as dishwater cinematography.  Like Hereditary; a unnecessary exposition dump for the dummies in the audience, at the end.

11/10 - Best film of all time.

I enjoyed it but it does feel rather Nolanish in focusing too much on the simplified minutia of its plot over any actual drama, visually as well I just tend to think Villeneuve falls back to a kind of tasteful evenly lit minimalism too easily in all his recent films. The Blade Runner sequel especially to me just gives a bit of a feeling its sticking its nose in the air to Scott's more romatic look of the original, ends up feeling a bit like a high end home décor catalog.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 19, 2018, 01:43:32 PM
I liked Arrival a lot, but Mrs Nose was very underwhelmed and non-plussed about it.  And I LOVE BR 2049.


Central Intelligence.  Alright, I guess.  Laughed a few times.  I have a feeling I'm warming to Kevin Hart.  Is that allowed or not?
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 19, 2018, 03:21:29 PM
The Blade Runner sequel especially to me just gives a bit of a feeling its sticking its nose in the air to Scott's more romatic look of the original, ends up feeling a bit like a high end home décor catalog.

I agree with this.  It's such a visually sterile film, which is not something which could ever be said about the original.  I guess that either works for you or it doesn't.  It definitely doesn't for me.
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Post by: SteveDave on July 19, 2018, 04:43:50 PM
Saw A Hard Days Night for the last first time in something like 25 years. Good, breezy fun with Wilfred Brambell playing a full-on Irish Republican (!). Favourite bit is with John Vernon as the grumpy city gent on the train 'I fought the war for your sort...'

Wilfred Brambell was 12 years older than I am now when he played Paul's Grandfather. He looks ancient. The past. 
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Post by: Gulftastic on July 19, 2018, 05:46:27 PM

Central Intelligence.  Alright, I guess.  Laughed a few times.  I have a feeling I'm warming to Kevin Hart.  Is that allowed or not?

I felt the same way. I had never heard of it, but found it enjoyable as hell. I know it's not a new observation, but The Rock is just one big lump of  charisma.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 19, 2018, 05:55:35 PM
I know it's not a new observation, but The Rock is just one big lump of  charisma.

Incredibly nice bloke as well by all accounts I've heard.
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Post by: mothman on July 19, 2018, 09:44:51 PM
I think if he has any self-awareness at all he's aware that he's not the greatest actor of all time, and has managed something incredibly difficult, going from just being a wrestler to being an A-list actor. Plenty of his contemporaries... are still wrestlers. It's incredible to contemplate what he's accomplished, I can remember when the Rock first appeared in a Star Trek: Voyager episode and we were all sneering at the stunt casting. But he built on those sort of opportunities and made it to the big leagues.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 19, 2018, 09:51:09 PM
He's no 'Rowdy' Roddy Piper.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 19, 2018, 11:06:54 PM
I think if he has any self-awareness at all he's aware that he's not the greatest actor of all time, and has managed something incredibly difficult, going from just being a wrestler to being an A-list actor. Plenty of his contemporaries... are still wrestlers. It's incredible to contemplate what he's accomplished, I can remember when the Rock first appeared in a Star Trek: Voyager episode and we were all sneering at the stunt casting. But he built on those sort of opportunities and made it to the big leagues.

Of course, Arnold Schwarzenegger did it first, with his transition from body builder to A-list actor.  People say that The Rock is the modern equivalent of Schwarzenegger, not just in terms of his career trajectory but also his charisma.  Whilst I can see what they're saying and I like The Rock, I don't think that he has anywhere near the same onscreen presence and charisma as Schwarzenegger at the height of his movie career.
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Post by: Sin Agog on July 19, 2018, 11:19:54 PM
Shivers.  Always gave it a miss, as I assumed it would be primitive toss by Cronenberg's standards, but it was great.  So many Cronenberg tropes there right from the get-go: evil medical professionals, losing control of your own body, Ballardian influences (High Rise), almost a greater empathy for the disease than the diseased...

Also just saw Eyes Without a Face in full for the first time.  I just don't know how Franju got away with showing that facial transplant in such explicit detail in 1959.  It was behind the hands viewing for me today; I can't even imagine what a furore it must have caused at the time.  That ending with the masked daughter sashaying off into the woods, another freed animal, with the doves clinging to her arms, was majestic.
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Post by: mothman on July 19, 2018, 11:25:36 PM
Yes, I’m sure Dwayne Johnson curses his stars that he’s not widely known solely for being in just one movie 30 years ago.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 19, 2018, 11:53:12 PM
The Rock can do comedy a fuck load better than Arnie. I have never thought of Arnie as being particularly charismatic either. I would say Johnson is way more charismatic and actually acts like a human being, which Arnie always struggles with
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 20, 2018, 12:02:27 AM
Shivers.  Always gave it a miss, as I assumed it would be primitive toss by Cronenberg's standards, but it was great.  So many Cronenberg tropes there right from the get-go: evil medical professionals, losing control of your own body, Ballardian influences (High Rise), almost a greater empathy for the disease than the diseased...

Shivers is excellent.  The ending in the pool is the stuff of nightmares; utterly hopeless, surrounded and unable to properly move in the water.  Shivers indeed.

Yes, I’m sure Dwayne Johnson curses his stars that he’s not widely known solely for being in just one movie 30 years ago.

Oh, come on.  That's nonsense and you know it.  Arnie's known for way more than just one movie, 30 years ago.  The Terminator, Terminator 2, Predator, Total Recall, The Running Man, Having an Illegitimate Son with His Housekeeper are the big ones but there's plenty of 'lesser' flicks which are noteworthy too.  Your mileage may vary but I'd argue that The Rock's filmography hasn't come close to reaching that level of all time classics, as of yet.

The Rock can do comedy a fuck load better than Arnie. I have never thought of Arnie as being particularly charismatic either. I would say Johnson is way more charismatic and actually acts like a human being, which Arnie always struggles with

I'd agree with that last part but I still think that Arnie has him trumped in the charisma stakes.  Horses for courses though.
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Post by: mothman on July 20, 2018, 08:20:21 AM
I was referring to the comment about Roddy Piper, not Annie.
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Post by: zomgmouse on July 20, 2018, 08:35:38 AM
Annie.

Arnie Get Your Gun
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Post by: greenman on July 20, 2018, 08:57:52 AM
Of course, Arnold Schwarzenegger did it first, with his transition from body builder to A-list actor.  People say that The Rock is the modern equivalent of Schwarzenegger, not just in terms of his career trajectory but also his charisma.  Whilst I can see what they're saying and I like The Rock, I don't think that he has anywhere near the same onscreen presence and charisma as Schwarzenegger at the height of his movie career.

I'd say the real difference is that Arnold had a much wider "charisma range", could play the pitiless killer and the goofball.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 20, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
I'd say the real difference is that Arnold had a much wider "charisma range", could play the pitiless killer and the goofball.

I think the Rock can do both those things, and can do the latter a lot better than Arnie.

I would go as far as to say that "charisma" isn't something I have ever thought of in relation to Arnie. I would say "presence" is a better word
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on July 20, 2018, 09:36:34 AM
Shivers is excellent.  The ending in the pool is the stuff of nightmares; utterly hopeless, surrounded and unable to properly move in the water.  Shivers indeed.

I've been hurtling through a bunch of those Director on Director books lately, and in Cronenberg on Cronenberg he says Shivers has one of his happiest endings.  Before the glutinous crawling penis thing infected everyone, they were living staid, ineffective Canadian lives in some sterile gated community, but afterwards they were doing all the things they never had the cojones to do- well...mostly making pan-sexual love with anyone around.  But then, like I said, he also said he related to the squelchy detached penis monster more than the human characters.  Makes me wonder how differently some classic movies would play out if we watch them from a completely different perspective.  Alien through the eyes of the poor, extroverted xenomorph who only wants to breed some friends so she doesn't have to feel so very alone.
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Post by: Blumf on July 20, 2018, 10:07:18 AM
Makes me wonder how differently some classic movies would play out if we watch them from a completely different perspective.  Alien through the eyes of the poor, extroverted xenomorph who only wants to breed some friends so she doesn't have to feel so very alone.

Isn't there a book based on The Thing that shows the alien as some kind of pan-galactic ambassador trying to make first contact, but being stymied by the damaged it received in the crash.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 20, 2018, 10:18:15 AM
I was referring to the comment about Roddy Piper, not Annie.

By your logic Dwayne Johnson (116 acting credits) is 'better' than Humphrey Bogart (86).

Plus he was in Hell Comes to Frogtown
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Post by: magval on July 20, 2018, 10:46:47 AM
Adding to the discussion of The Rock, it's interesting (I think, anyway) to note that as an actor, he failed. Completely. He had a couple high profile projects straight out the door (The Rundown, Welcome to the Jungle) and then it was straight to largely forgettable roles in completely forgettable kids films. I don't mean 'failed' like the Internet Kids say, just that his trajectory was strictly downwards the first few years of his career.

Then, all of a sudden, he was the biggest movie star in the world. I think it was Fast and Furious that did it for him, followed by GI Joe and then UBIQUITY, but there's no doubt about it, for a time the Rock was fair game for being mocked by his detractors on WWE TV. You simply couldn't do that now. He's properly made it.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 20, 2018, 10:51:57 AM
I think even in those failures though he was praised as being the best thing in them. He was the highlight of Be Cool, the rubbish Get Shorty sequel.
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Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on July 20, 2018, 11:10:28 AM
Adding to the discussion of The Rock, it's interesting (I think, anyway) to note that as an actor, he failed. Completely. He had a couple high profile projects straight out the door (The Rundown, Welcome to the Jungle) and then it was straight to largely forgettable roles in completely forgettable kids films. I don't mean 'failed' like the Internet Kids say, just that his trajectory was strictly downwards the first few years of his career.

Then, all of a sudden, he was the biggest movie star in the world. I think it was Fast and Furious that did it for him, followed by GI Joe and then UBIQUITY, but there's no doubt about it, for a time the Rock was fair game for being mocked by his detractors on WWE TV. You simply couldn't do that now. He's properly made it.
Yes. It's kind of odd seeing the Fast and Furious become one of the biggest film series around, when its stars are all a bunch of b-list types from the early noughties.
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Post by: Sin Agog on July 20, 2018, 11:46:52 AM
I think even in those failures though he was praised as being the best thing in them. He was the highlight of Be Cool, the rubbish Get Shorty sequel.

Interestingly, the only film where he actually looked black, rather than sorta race-neutral. I hear he refuses to let-on about what political party he supports, either.  Neutrality seems to be one of the keys to his wide appeal.
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Post by: Z on July 20, 2018, 12:51:49 PM
Then, all of a sudden, he was the biggest movie star in the world. I think it was Fast and Furious that did it for him, followed by GI Joe and then UBIQUITY
It was his return to WWE tbh. Fast and Furious 5 (and to a lesser extent 6) were a super refreshing kind of great dumb action films followng the rise of Marvel bullshit and Michael Bay dominance, but the Rock regained an absolute fuckton of core support via his return to wrestling and the confidence boost that came with it helped too.
Fast Five came out directly after his big WWE return, GI Joe 2 was delayed extremely late on (wasn't it like 3 weeks before it's original release date) to come out at roughly the exact same time as he was busy promoting the fuck out of a match at Wrestlemania.

He's not as smart of a guy as Arnie and he's a total weirdo. I expect him to try a political run (Republican) and for it to go extremely badly, leaving him as a total fringe player in the aftermath.
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Post by: magval on July 20, 2018, 01:32:40 PM
Him and Cena's run up to that match had some of the best acting I've ever seen from him. He convincingly played it like he'd lost a step, and was very gracious to Cena with the material he allowed him to use to get ahead.

Agreed about him shining in Be Cool. I'm not sure he's ever been better than in that film (outside of the pre-Wrestlemania X7 sit-down with Austin and Jim Ross). Even now, I can't take him seriously when he's playing straight, though he can be excellent in comedies.

In interviews though, like press junket shit and the wacky things they get up to on Radio 1 and This Morning, he's a total phony. He's a master of 'generous perfect American movie star' but dead behind the eyes.
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Post by: Shameless Custard on July 20, 2018, 03:14:54 PM
Woah, got a bit harsh at the end there!

I used to think he was a bit phony too, but apparently he's genuinely like that, with everyone!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: magval on July 20, 2018, 03:27:02 PM
It does seem a bit harsh, sorry The Rock, but I'll stand by it.

You know the way Tom Cruise is? Tom seems to excel at that sort of 'best person in the room' schtick.

I think with Dwayne, he only excels at that in front of thousands and thousands of people. It seems like when he's expected to be Instagram Rock in a closed-room, handful-of-people situation, he's just going through the motions.

I will love him forever for his promo at Fully Loaded 1999 alone, but I don't buy his constant social media enthusiasm and projected relatability.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 20, 2018, 04:32:21 PM
I think that it's fair enough to be somewhat skeptical of The Rock's media persona, dare I even say healthy.  Maybe he's a genuinely nice guy, maybe not.  Who knows but I'm not willing to fully buy into it myself.  I wouldn't completely dismiss it either, of course.
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Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 20, 2018, 04:36:53 PM
Shockingly offensive Polanski joke there rightly deleted.

I'm just so intrigued as to what could be deemed 'shockingly offensive,' here, given some of the stuff that gets posted and isn't deleted.
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Post by: mothman on July 20, 2018, 04:37:46 PM
By your logic Dwayne Johnson (116 acting credits) is 'better' than Humphrey Bogart (86).

Plus he was in Hell Comes to Frogtown

Don't be daft, that's not what I said at all. I said "KNOWN for." Or would you simultaneously have us believe that Roddy Piper (158 credits) is better that Dwayne Johnson (116 credits) who isn't as good as Humphrey Bogart (86 credits)?
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Post by: Z on July 20, 2018, 04:56:09 PM
I used to think he was a bit phony too, but apparently he's genuinely like that, with everyone!
There's aspects that are real (he's definitely a mentalist motivational speaker type who buys his own speeches), but he's also very very much always playing a political game and his ego can be bruised pretty easily. He's a thin skinned guy that no one (as of yet) has had much need to lay into his extremely guarded personality and beliefs.

For a guy who was always extremely reluctant to take any bumps himself, he treated other people's bodies like total shit if he felt it'd get him over and didn't express much in the way of gratitude that guys like Foley let him do that.
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Post by: magval on July 20, 2018, 05:33:31 PM
I have a theory about that.

It's clear that the Rock moved above and way, way beyond Foley as 1999 went on, and taking the time out to indulge Rock and Sock was his way of paying him back for the level he took him to with those winter hardcore matches. He didn't need any of that tag team nonsense. Could easily have been in the main event picture that whole time, but put a pause on it for a prolonged period of tag team faffery (undeniably entertaining though it was) which also fit in with Foley's determination to distance himself from the one thing that had made him successful: his disregard for his health.

I've only recently come to that conclusion but I feel it's something that, although neither man has ever really acknowledged it, seems reasonably obvious in retrospect.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 20, 2018, 05:47:29 PM
Please don't turn this into the wrestling thread!!


By your logic Dwayne Johnson (116 acting credits) is 'better' than Humphrey Bogart (86).

Plus he was in Hell Comes to Frogtown

Yes, Bogie was amazing in that - "of all the swamps in the world", "here's looking at you toad", etc.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: magval on July 20, 2018, 05:56:58 PM
Back on track - I watched Quatermass and the Pit last night. Great film. Really hard to describe to someone though.

Some men and women find an ape, only it's a martian, but it's from a class of persecuted martians, and the negative vibes involved in their genocide millions of years ago make the devil appear above London in modern day London.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on July 20, 2018, 06:18:52 PM
I think the Rock can do both those things, and can do the latter a lot better than Arnie.

I would go as far as to say that "charisma" isn't something I have ever thought of in relation to Arnie. I would say "presence" is a better word

The comedy side perhaps but I cannot imagine him in a role like Terminator or even Commando.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 20, 2018, 06:45:28 PM
The comedy side perhaps but I cannot imagine him in a role like Terminator or even Commando.

Exactly.  There's not many people who fondly remember The Rock for his role as The Scorpion King.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 20, 2018, 06:56:09 PM
Don't be daft, that's not what I said at all. I said "KNOWN for." Or would you simultaneously have us believe that Roddy Piper (158 credits) is better that Dwayne Johnson (116 credits) who isn't as good as Humphrey Bogart (86 credits)?

They're your rules.

Personally I wouldn't include Piper's wrestling matches in the title count.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 20, 2018, 07:58:43 PM
The comedy side perhaps but I cannot imagine him in a role like Terminator or even Commando.

The Rock can't weakly say "Chenny" for one.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on July 21, 2018, 12:22:25 AM
He didn't need any of that tag team nonsense.
Rock was having an extremely messy transition to being an out and out babyface, that tag team run softened him up hugely and done an awful lot to move his onslaught of risque quotes and what into meaningless digestible waffle.

The two of them were getting monster ratings together on television, that's why the Rock was doing that for a while (plus an obvious agenda to elevate HHH to a similar level going on from elements)



DAMNATION! (dir. Bela Tarr, 1989)
Worst film of his I've seen by a long distance. Felt like a prototype for later things. The dance scene was good.

The woman beside me loaded up on wine at the start, breathed extremely heavily thoughout the film and spent the second half shaking her arms and knees aggressively waiting for it to end. I got to the point that I just held my hand up to my eye to block her from my peripheral vision.
A guy the other side of me was drifting off at one point but went out and got himself a coffee, like a sensible human being.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Twit 2 on July 22, 2018, 10:41:57 AM
Hell or High Water - a bit underwhelming. First hour was repetitive and very on the nose with the banks are the baddies stuff. Towards the end it went to some interesting places. Good acting and sense of place throughout, but I am amused the writer said he got into screenwriting as an actor fed up with clunky, expository dialogu when the first half of the film is full of exactly that, with Foster repetedly calling Pine ‘little brother’ so that we know.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 22, 2018, 04:37:29 PM
Just seen the first Indiana Jones in the cinema. What an experience! You can tell that surround sound was relatively new because they really panned everything all over the shop, good though, especially with the orchestra and that.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on July 22, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
Hell or High Water - a bit underwhelming. First hour was repetitive and very on the nose with the banks are the baddies stuff. Towards the end it went to some interesting places. Good acting and sense of place throughout, but I am amused the writer said he got into screenwriting as an actor fed up with clunky, expository dialogu when the first half of the film is full of exactly that, with Foster repetedly calling Pine ‘little brother’ so that we know.

Most of the appeal I'd say depends on Jeff Bridges revisting his Roster Cogburn performance, I could happly watch that half a dozen times.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 22, 2018, 10:04:43 PM
Just seen the first Indiana Jones in the cinema. What an experience! You can tell that surround sound was relatively new because they really panned everything all over the shop, good though, especially with the orchestra and that.

After that I saw Strangers On a Train, which was fantastic as well.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Spiteface on July 22, 2018, 10:10:09 PM
Transformers: The Last Knight

This was the first one I had the common sense to skip when it was in cinemas. These get even more incomprehensible as time passes. Apparently Earth is UNICRON, Hot Rod is french and Shia LaBoeuf's character from the first three might be descended from fucking Merlin.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 22, 2018, 10:21:41 PM
Just seen the first Indiana Jones in the cinema. What an experience! You can tell that surround sound was relatively new because they really panned everything all over the shop, good though, especially with the orchestra and that.

Have I ever told you that I hate you?  No?  Well, I hate you.

Mind you, that's almost certainly just be the jealousy talking.  The only Indiana Jones movie that I've seen at the cinema is Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Fuck you.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 22, 2018, 11:15:39 PM
Have I ever told you that I hate you?  No?  Well, I hate you.

Mind you, that's almost certainly just be the jealousy talking.  The only Indiana Jones movie that I've seen at the cinema is Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Fuck you.

Going to see temple of doom next week mate!!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 22, 2018, 11:29:16 PM
Going to see temple of doom next week mate!!

That warrants less of a venomous 'fuck you' and more of half-hearted middle finger, aimed vaguely in your direction.

If you go to see The Last Crusade the week after, then we'll almost, but not quite, be back to square one.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 22, 2018, 11:40:33 PM
I am seeing that the week after, funnily enough.


Would it be terribly sexist to say I really fancied the nazi lady in it when I was a teenager? I mean, I still do now, but I did then as well.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 22, 2018, 11:51:03 PM
I am seeing that the week after, funnily enough.

Bastard!

*shakes fist*

Would it be terribly sexist to say I really fancied the nazi lady in it when I was a teenager? I mean, I still do now, but I did then as well.

Why on Earth should it be sexist to fancy a woman?  If I were you, I'd be more concerned at being attracted to a Nazi.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 23, 2018, 12:43:07 AM
Lord Love A Duck (1966) - Roddy McDowell plays a weird student, despite being 36 at the time of filming, who decides to help a girl's dreams come true. It's a very funny and strange ride, though it sags in the middle unfortunately, but then the final half hour returns to form. 7.4/10

Leningrad Cowboys Go America (1989) - Quirky road movie where a band from Russia hit the US in the hope of finding fame and fortune.It's often quite dry but it has an appealing sense of humour, even if the narrative is very loose. 7.4/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: zomgmouse on July 23, 2018, 02:00:46 AM
Lord Love A Duck (1966) - Roddy McDowell plays a weird student, despite being 36 at the time of filming, who decides to help a girl's dreams come true. It's a very funny and strange ride, though it sags in the middle unfortunately, but then the final half hour returns to form. 7.4/10

Leningrad Cowboys Go America (1989) - Quirky road movie where a band from Russia hit the US in the hope of finding fame and fortune.It's often quite dry but it has an appealing sense of humour, even if the narrative is very loose. 7.4/10

BOTH OF THESE: YES
Lord Love a Duck is supremely weird! Gives me shivers sometimes how very odd it is. That sweater scene - what?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: thecuriousorange on July 23, 2018, 02:11:18 AM
Watched The Cable Guy for the first time in 20 years. It's quite good and has aged better than either Ace Ventura film. I wonder how different it would be with anyone other than Jim Carrey in the lead. This film was seemingly his first with flashes of serious acting (amid the usual funny voices/faces/gesticulting etc). Matthew Broderick was likeable. Behind Jim Carrey's rubber-faced buffoonery this is a decent, serious(ish) film. The connesieur's favourite?
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 23, 2018, 02:16:35 AM
Behind Jim Carrey's rubber-faced buffoonery this is a decent, serious(ish) film. The connesieur's favourite?

I'd say so.  I remember being sorely disappointed by it, upon its initial release, as I had been expecting a broad comedy, more in line with Jim Carrey's usual output at the time.  However, it's grown on me, more and more, as the years go by.  As you say, it's held up a lot better than a great deal of Carrey's other, goofier movies.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 23, 2018, 12:20:21 PM
BOTH OF THESE: YES
Lord Love a Duck is supremely weird! Gives me shivers sometimes how very odd it is. That sweater scene - what?

Absolutely, and I'm pretty sure that the dad's constant cackling will haunt my dreams for years to come!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Large Noise on July 26, 2018, 01:20:15 AM
My Friend Dahmer- What's interesting about this is how it could so easily be a nostalgic coming of age story set in the late 70's. It could almost be Freaks and Geeks or Napoleon Dynamite or Lady Bird; there's that kind of tonal warmth about the world in which it's set. Instead we're watching Jeffery Dahmer descend into violent sociopathy while he superficially appears to be struggling with, but more-or-less navigating, the various rites of passage you'd expect of a highschool senior in suburban America.

Criticisms:

Some of the dialogue is written to portend what comes later in his life. It's too contrived and obvious though.

His relationship with his group of friends doesn't quite have the substance it could have, which is a problem because it's the emotional centre of the film.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on July 26, 2018, 02:54:44 AM
My Friend Dahmer

It's not perfect but that was my favourite film of last year.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 26, 2018, 11:04:54 PM
The Receptionist - A Taiwanese lass living in London has graduated Uni and is struggling for a job, ends up as a receptionist in a brasshouse with a few East-Asian women, Ken Loach levels of bleakness ensue.

Good though.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: gout_pony on July 26, 2018, 11:29:43 PM
I saw Pin Cushion from last year. I felt its combination of cuteness and bleakness was pretty unusual and quite exciting at times. Far more tonally cohesive than one would imagine from watching the trailer and reading the plot summary. Also Isy Suttie was great at playing someone awful.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on July 27, 2018, 03:53:14 PM
The Big Blue.  Used to be my favourite film when I was in my teens. Besson's eurotrashy humour lept out at me much more upon rewatching, but as a guy who does free-diving a few times a week, the sea-somnambulance still grabs me.  Used to have the biggest crush on the lead French dude in this.  He'd probably fancy a dolphin over me, though,

Also Night of the Comet (fun), Lola Montes (never felt like the character quite came alive for me, but Ophuls really does know how to put on a circus.  One of the better framing devices out there), and Ophuls' son's Hotel Terminus. I guess it'd be odd to say how much fun I found this, considering the subject matter- fucking brutal escaped Nazi war criminal who the U.S. employed on account of his unique knowledge of the Soviets- and Marcel Ophuls' other long docs, but I do.  He always gets way deep into the politics of every situation he's in (can't remember the name, but the one he made in the middle of the Irish crisis was especially great in that regard), creating some really bristly interviews...he even sometimes gets into slanging matches with a couple of subjects, though Michael Moore he ain't. 

Also Dennis Potter's Casanova, which I hold right up there with The Singing Detective.  The memoirs are probably my favourite book, and apparently Potter didn't even finish reading them (he started, but found him 'vain and arrogant' which is one of the things I loved about reading them), but you wouldn't know from watching his adaptation.  It even seems to capture his essence more than the Fellini version, which was good (Nino Rota's score might be in my top ten) but felt more like a montage.  Frank Finlay fucking owned the role.  He clearly liked the character and gave him more humanity than maybe Potter put on the page.  The central themes are memory and captivity, which Potter clearly related to, being housebound for years on end due to his psoriasis.  The flashbacks get a bit much, but I get the point of them- those memoirs were written at the behest of a Bohemian physician who, seeing that the aged Casanova was ailing badly, advised him to dive into his memories with the alacrity of someone experiencing them for the first time, and it worked, until the memoirs started catching up with the present-day and the effect began to wear off (depriving us of an account of how he ended up spying for the very Venetian inquisition which had jailed him in early life).  Anyway, massive side-track, but the series is well worth a watch, like anything by Potter.  Infinitely more to chew on than the shite version starring Doctor Who.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on July 27, 2018, 04:00:29 PM
By the way, I have the vaguest of vague memories of seeing that Roddy McDowell movie, Lord Love a Duck.  Might have been something else.  Is there a scene early on where he and another student take refuge inside the campus, and bar up the doors?  Something like that.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 27, 2018, 06:13:15 PM
By the way, I have the vaguest of vague memories of seeing that Roddy McDowell movie, Lord Love a Duck.  Might have been something else.  Is there a scene early on where he and another student take refuge inside the campus, and bar up the doors?  Something like that.

The lead character does that right at the beginning, yeah, though he's on his lonesome and being pursued by a big group of people.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Twit 2 on July 28, 2018, 12:07:33 AM
Wind River has turned up on Netflix. Absolutely excellent, much superior to Sicario and Hell or High Water. He’s very good at sudden, unexpected moments that put you on the edge of your seat and change the game. This had the same sombre feel as something like The Pledge (also on Netflix). Brilliant use of landscape, well written and well acted, just a solid film all the way through. Only downside is I had to turn on the subtitles a couple of timed as a couple of plot points nearly escaped me in the mumbled dialogue.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Large Noise on July 28, 2018, 12:23:17 AM
Wind River has turned up on Netflix. Absolutely excellent, much superior to Sicario and Hell or High Water. He’s very good at sudden, unexpected moments that put you on the edge of your seat and change the game. This had the same sombre feel as something like The Pledge (also on Netflix). Brilliant use of landscape, well written and well acted, just a solid film all the way through. Only downside is I had to turn on the subtitles a couple of timed as a couple of plot points nearly escaped me in the mumbled dialogue.
Additional downside was the gratuitous product placement in the form of Carhartt doing all of Jeremy Renner's outdoorsman-style clothing.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 29, 2018, 09:47:50 PM
You, Me and Him (2018) - Two women are in a fairly new relationship when after a drunken one night stand one of them is impregnated by David Tennant, whilst the other becomes pregnant via IVF. It's funny in places, but occasionally cringeworthy, and then just over an hour in it becomes rather bleak as one of the unborn baby's dies. Cue twenty minutes of misery until we get a predictably happy ending. It's fine for lazy Sunday afternoon kind of viewing, but nothing more than that. 6.4/10
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Large Noise on August 01, 2018, 09:50:19 AM
Barry Lyndon- I've not really read anything about this but I was struck by the incestuousness at work in many of the characters' relationships. Also not sure how you're meant to feel about Baz himself. On the one hand, he's a lying cheating conniving shit. On the other, the world he lives in is so dismal you could never really blame him.

Dr Strangelove- I know everyone has long since decided that this is officially a good film. But even then I was surprised by how entertaining it is, and how relevant it remains. I especially liked the way the characters involved in the eschatological predicament seemed able to switch their attention to trivialities, as if the end of the world was just inconvenient. 3-4 years ago I was struck by how some of the hawkish US military types on twitter (John Schindler for example) could tweet "I reckon this situation is Ukraine is going to get nuclear any day now" one minute then "How about them Red Sox" or whatever shortly afterwards.

Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on August 01, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
Got the Arrow release of Kieslowski's Dekalog(very reasonable at £25 for 5 BRs and 5 DVDs plus a decent sized book) and watched the first couple of episodes last night...

One - Certainly combated any fears I might have that the series would be below his latter work in terms of craft, indeed I think it might be the best looking Kieslowski I'v seen next to Veronique. In terms of the story I would confess I'm a little torn, I mean its certainly very effecting and I spose you could argue it exists purely as a tragedy but I can't totally get past the idea of it as some kind of judgement of the lead character which doesn't really seem justified on the evidence presented or really inline with Kieslowski's other work.

Two - Surprisingly different in look and I see looking at the book with it each episode switches cinematographers which I spose makes sense given the overlap in location, much more down to each here although a few shots do have me thinking Gondry was watching it before making that video for Protection. Dramatically as well more what I would typically expect offering a nice middle ground in terms of religion.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on August 01, 2018, 11:46:53 AM
I've only seen the first part of that as I found it so bleak I didn't wish to continue (mainly as I was in a very depressed place at the time), but I do love Kieslowski so should give it another go.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on August 01, 2018, 03:12:10 PM
Dr Strangelove- I know everyone has long since decided that this is officially a good film. But even then I was surprised by how entertaining it is, and how relevant it remains. I especially liked the way the characters involved in the eschatological predicament seemed able to switch their attention to trivialities, as if the end of the world was just inconvenient. 3-4 years ago I was struck by how some of the hawkish US military types on twitter (John Schindler for example) could tweet "I reckon this situation is Ukraine is going to get nuclear any day now" one minute then "How about them Red Sox" or whatever shortly afterwards.

Got a children's story of mine published recently. I originally named it, 'The Life of Michael Bubble (or How I Learned to Stop Worrying & Love the Pop).' Only thing is, the person who edited it clearly had never heard of Dr Strangelove, so bowlderised the title by taking away the brackets and changing it to: '...and how in the end I really enjoyed popping after all.' Fucking cultureless divs rule us all.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blumf on August 01, 2018, 03:17:40 PM
Is the next one going to be called "Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Michael Bubble* (*But Were Afraid to Ask)"
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on August 01, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
Great idea- might nick it for a later sequel! Got the next book lined-up already, though.  It's about his sister and will be called: 'Michelle Bubble, She Wolf of the SS.'
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sin Agog on August 01, 2018, 06:55:46 PM
Watched Valerie & Her Week of Wonders again last night.  It's been one of my favourite scores ever since Broadcast riffed off so much of it on Ha Ha Sound and I sought out the source on Finders Keepers, but last time I watched the movie I think I found the editing a bit frenetic (I don't think there's a single shot that lasts longer than seven seconds), which jarred with the movie I'd concocted in my head from so many replays of that score.  Last night I totally got it, I think.  All the symbolism just clicked.  S'posedly the Catholic church, when it was doing the rounds of Europe a thousand plus years ago, found Eastern-Europe particularly troublesome when it came to quashing their wide open pagan sexuality, and you can really see that in this movie. But instead of being weird and prurient, like it probably would if we'd made it, it all feels so sweet-natured and vital (despite still ostensibly being a horror).  The long, wordless bacchanale which closes the film is one of the greats.  I fucking hate it when I fall in love with a film that's a total one-off.  When it ends you just want to fall down a rabbit hole of similar stuff, but there isn't really any in this instance.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 01, 2018, 08:19:31 PM
Barry Lyndon- I've not really read anything about this but I was struck by the incestuousness at work in many of the characters' relationships. Also not sure how you're meant to feel about Baz himself. On the one hand, he's a lying cheating conniving shit. On the other, the world he lives in is so dismal you could never really blame him.

Dr Strangelove- I know everyone has long since decided that this is officially a good film. But even then I was surprised by how entertaining it is, and how relevant it remains. I especially liked the way the characters involved in the eschatological predicament seemed able to switch their attention to trivialities, as if the end of the world was just inconvenient. 3-4 years ago I was struck by how some of the hawkish US military types on twitter (John Schindler for example) could tweet "I reckon this situation is Ukraine is going to get nuclear any day now" one minute then "How about them Red Sox" or whatever shortly afterwards.

I LOVE Barry Lyndon.  It's one of my favourite Kubrick films.  I recently got the Criterion blu ray.  Fuck me, it looks (and sounds) amazing.  But your point about how the audience is supposed to feel about the character - one of the reasons Kubrick cast O'Neal was because he wanted the audience to be drawn to the character with some sympathy and, up to that point, O'Neal had only really played "good guys" so he was perfect for giving the audience some sort of built-in liking for a man who steals, cheats, is cowardly and beats his step-son.  Stunt casting in a way.

Also Strangelove is a classic, goes without saying.  Sellers gets all of the usual plaudits (and excellent he is), but ever since my dad first showed it to me when I was a wee lad of 8 or 9 I was always more drawn to George C. Scott and his character.  I still am to this day. 

At this point I can also heartily recommend, if you haven't seen it, Sidney Lumet's Fail Safe - Strangelove played absolutely bloody deadly seriously.  Stephen Frears' live TV adaptation was pretty good as well, although Sam Elliot fluffed a couple of lines if memory serves.


Got the Arrow release of Kieslowski's Dekalog(very reasonable at £25 for 5 BRs and 5 DVDs plus a decent sized book) and watched the first couple of episodes last night...

One - Certainly combated any fears I might have that the series would be below his latter work in terms of craft, indeed I think it might be the best looking Kieslowski I'v seen next to Veronique. In terms of the story I would confess I'm a little torn, I mean its certainly very effecting and I spose you could argue it exists purely as a tragedy but I can't totally get past the idea of it as some kind of judgement of the lead character which doesn't really seem justified on the evidence presented or really inline with Kieslowski's other work.

Two - Surprisingly different in look and I see looking at the book with it each episode switches cinematographers which I spose makes sense given the overlap in location, much more down to each here although a few shots do have me thinking Gondry was watching it before making that video for Protection. Dramatically as well more what I would typically expect offering a nice middle ground in terms of religion.

I suggested to someone that Dekalog was, in my opinion, probably the best thing Kieslowski had ever done.  Was it you?  I remember the Arnolfini in Bristol showed all ten episodes back-to-back once.  Christ, what an event.

SMBH - please do give them another shot.  Like the full length feature films that a couple of them spawned, they're not all doom and gloom.



Leap of Faith - not seen it since it first came out.  I remembered enjoying it at the time, but not much more than that.  Still a pretty good little film.  Steve Martin really is great in it.  Also clocked for the first time that Ricky Jay was the consultant for the preacher show shenanigans.  Debra Winger great as well, as per usual. 

Faults - micro budget indie with Leland "oh, it's that guy" Orser and Mary Elizabeth Winstead.  Interesting twist at the end, although it comes from no real background and feels a bit twist-for-twist's sake.  The rest of it fine, particularly Orser.

Half Baked - I know most people LOVE Dave Chapelle, but I've never really got him or found him or his show very funny.  Had some moments, but permanently stoned guy very quickly got on my tits and the prison "jokes" were already 20 years old (and the rest) then.  Steven Right as "guy on couch" was the best thing in it.

Beginning of the Great Revival - pretty gash.  It doesn't help that my knowledge of that period of China's history is lacking (to say the least), but the mix of propaganda, a VERY ropey turn from Chow Yun Fat and it mainly being comprised of meetings and speeches make the whole thing incredibly hard going.  You know you're in trouble when Andy Lau gets about 7 minutes of screen time and Simon Yam has one single line of dialogue.  I can't bring myself to watch its companion piece The Founding of a Republic.

My Own Swordsman - TOTAL gash.  Admittedly I'm not fond of Chinese comedy, but this had all the very worst elements of that genre, as well as the worst elements of tail-end classic era martial arts films - too much wirework and anti-gravity, shitty self parody and so much on the nose content you need a box of fucking kleenex.

Convenience - typical low budget Brit "comedy" that spends far too much time being deadly serious and dramatic.  Why can't us Brits make a decent out-and-out comedy any more?  (Did we ever?, I hear some of you ask)

Miles Ahead - difficult one this.  I KNOW it's not terrible, but as a huge Miles fan, particularly of the period most of the film covers, it just watches like a silly cartoon in the same way Straight Outta Compton did.  Cheadle does his best, but just whispering doesn't really capture it.  Still, nice to see Herbie Hancock get some air time, even if his keyboard sound sucked enormous balls.

What Dreams May Come - another one I haven't seen since it first came out.  So I saw it at the cinema when most critics savaged it for all bar its visual effects, and most average Joe Public peeps who saw it said it was too schmaltzy, Robin Williams wasn't really right for the character, and there were far too many changes from the book.  There's been a LOT of re-appraisal in the intervening years, and it's seen as something of a noble and admirable mini-failure if not an outright masterwork.  Of course, being a Vincent Ward film, the visuals ARE brilliant, but there's a lot of sick-making bleeding heart stuff.  It's also incredibly depressing, despite a happy ending (of sorts).  It hasn't made me want to rush out and read the book.

Misery Loves Comedy - Kevin Pollak's documentary (expanded from a question he sometimes asked on his web show) about whether the best comedy is born out of depression, including interviews with some of the best known depression suffering comedians (Marc Maron, Maria Bamford, Jim Jefferies, Lewis Black, Richard Lewis, et al).  Meh.  Lots of tantalising little apples dangling, but it amounts to little more than a load of celebs telling capsule stories.  No real meat to it.


I'm also re-watching the Star Wars prequel trilogy for the first time since I saw them at the cinema, as ITV2 are showing them on successive Sundays, but I'll wait until I've seen the third one before I comment.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Z on August 01, 2018, 09:49:00 PM
Got the Arrow release of Kieslowski's Dekalog(very reasonable at £25 for 5 BRs and 5 DVDs plus a decent sized book) and watched the first couple of episodes last night...

One - Certainly combated any fears I might have that the series would be below his latter work in terms of craft, indeed I think it might be the best looking Kieslowski I'v seen next to Veronique. In terms of the story I would confess I'm a little torn, I mean its certainly very effecting and I spose you could argue it exists purely as a tragedy but I can't totally get past the idea of it as some kind of judgement of the lead character which doesn't really seem justified on the evidence presented or really inline with Kieslowski's other work.

Two - Surprisingly different in look and I see looking at the book with it each episode switches cinematographers which I spose makes sense given the overlap in location, much more down to each here although a few shots do have me thinking Gondry was watching it before making that video for Protection. Dramatically as well more what I would typically expect offering a nice middle ground in terms of religion.

Its been a while since I saw Dekalog but on my last viewing of Three Colours last year I couldn't help but feel like Dekalog would hold up far far better on rewatch than they did.

Also, I bought Dekalog 1-5 for £45 12 years ago at a HMV in (iirc) Poole. Is it any surprise I shifted to pirating almost everything and never looked back after enduring shit like that.
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Post by: Large Noise on August 01, 2018, 10:23:16 PM
Also Strangelove is a classic, goes without saying.  Sellers gets all of the usual plaudits (and excellent he is), but ever since my dad first showed it to me when I was a wee lad of 8 or 9 I was always more drawn to George C. Scott and his character.  I still am to this day. 
Some good stuff on the film's wiki page about Scott's experience of playing that role:
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Kubrick tricked Scott into playing the role of Gen. Turgidson far more ridiculously than Scott was comfortable doing. Kubrick talked Scott into doing over the top "practice" takes, which Kubrick told Scott would never be used, as a way to warm up for the "real" takes. Kubrick used these takes in the final film, causing Scott to swear never to work with Kubrick again.

During the filming, Kubrick and Scott had different opinions regarding certain scenes, but Kubrick got Scott to conform largely by repeatedly beating him at chess, which they played frequently on the set. Scott, a skilled player himself, later said that while he and Kubrick may not have always seen eye to eye, he respected Kubrick immensely for his skill at chess.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 01, 2018, 10:27:02 PM
Some good stuff on the film's wiki page about Scott's experience of playing that role:

Indeed so - Scott's tumble was real, but he kept on going because he thought it was just one of those rehearsal takes.

"He'll see the big board!"  Kills me every time.
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Post by: greenman on August 01, 2018, 11:50:58 PM
I suggested to someone that Dekalog was, in my opinion, probably the best thing Kieslowski had ever done.  Was it you?  I remember the Arnolfini in Bristol showed all ten episodes back-to-back once.  Christ, what an event.

I'd only seen his well known 90's stuff previously(and only Blue and Red before last year) but three episodes in I would say its at least as good as that plus as mentioned arguely less dated in style. I mean location wise its more dated I spose but I can imagine convincing someone it was some modern recreation of late 80's Poland were as the latter work does definitely tell you the era it was made even if you didn't know Binoche, etc, the combination of pretty lead actresses, references to high culture/fashion, etc, not that I ever had much problem with that. You could argue I spose perhaps a bit purer/more individual? sticking to sub hour long episodes with a small budget seems to mean less overt plotting and more focus on slow atmospheric reveals of character.

The Arrow version does actually include quote a lot of other stuff on it as well, 5 TV movies from the 70's to the early 80's and 4 quite long documentary's, not gotten into any of those iyet though.

Generally I'v actually found myself buying more DVD/BR's over the last couple of years than at any time previously, I spose because prices have finally come down to a level were its easier to take a few more risks on pretty much everything. Most trouble I'v had was actually finding a separate Barry Lydon bluray recently, only way to get it was part of a Kubrick boxset that I already had pretty much everything else of.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 02, 2018, 12:19:41 AM
Most trouble I'v had was actually finding a separate Barry Lydon bluray recently, only way to get it was part of a Kubrick boxset that I already had pretty much everything else of.

The only one worth getting (at the moment, at least) is the recent Criterion release - it's the only one with the correct aspect ratio.  Problem is it's locked to region A, so you'll need a chipped player or drive.
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Post by: greenman on August 02, 2018, 06:24:39 PM
The only one worth getting (at the moment, at least) is the recent Criterion release - it's the only one with the correct aspect ratio.  Problem is it's locked to region A, so you'll need a chipped player or drive.

I actually ended up picking up what looks like an Italian one spilt out of the box for £5 off amazon, started off watching it for the first time in 20+ years last night and it looked decent. First thing that stood out is the Blackadder Goes Forth opening is nicked from it isn't it?

Talking about quality of releases does anyone know what the best version of Stalker is? got it fairly cheaply on DVD from Artfical Eye but its really not that great compared to Solaris and Mirror, is the Criterion BR from a better source? if so that's something I might push the boat out for paying full whack for once.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 02, 2018, 07:08:27 PM
I actually ended up picking up what looks like an Italian one spilt out of the box for £5 off amazon, started off watching it for the first time in 20+ years last night and it looked decent. First thing that stood out is the Blackadder Goes Forth opening is nicked from it isn't it?

Talking about quality of releases does anyone know what the best version of Stalker is? got it fairly cheaply on DVD from Artfical Eye but its really not that great compared to Solaris and Mirror, is the Criterion BR from a better source? if so that's something I might push the boat out for paying full whack for once.

The Italian Barry is still 1.78 though.  It should be 1.66 (trust me - the difference is enormous as the cropped 1.78 one loses a lot of the image from the top and bottom, which is painfully evident in the later domestic scenes when we should be taking in the splendour of the interiors).

As for Stalker, definitely the Criterion - 2K scan and I think it's the only one with the proper original mono soundtrack.
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Post by: Large Noise on August 03, 2018, 11:22:08 AM
River's Edge- Liked this a lot. There's the social commentary about the hippy generation giving way to nihilistic gen x ers who have all the libertineism and freedom but seemingly believe in absolutely nothing. It's all very death of god. The three most heartfelt relationships in the film are between people and inanimate objects; Feck and his blow up doll, the wee sister and her doll, and John who doesn't seem to have much of a relationship with Jamie while she's alive, but talks about how "it all felt so real... I felt so fucking alive" once he'd strangled her.
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Post by: greenman on August 05, 2018, 12:51:51 AM
The Italian Barry is still 1.78 though.  It should be 1.66 (trust me - the difference is enormous as the cropped 1.78 one loses a lot of the image from the top and bottom, which is painfully evident in the later domestic scenes when we should be taking in the splendour of the interiors).

As for Stalker, definitely the Criterion - 2K scan and I think it's the only one with the proper original mono soundtrack.

Honestly though watching it all the way though I didn't find it nearly as distracting as I often do|(has Scott's Black Rain ever come out on a watchable version?), perhaps because Kubrick naturally tends to go for very spacious composition with a lot of room around characters, maybe not idea but only the odd shot really looked off.

As is common with a lot of these I definitely enjoyed it a good deal more than I remember, I remember loving the first half due to both the greater action and more typical Kubrick black comedy to it and enjoying the second much less. Perhaps not entirely changed my view as the second half does take its time to get going but does have an effective doomed drama to it. In that respect I don't have a problem with Ryan O'Neal's performance, as you say the point is you never really get to know him as a hero and he never really learns his lesson so much as gets chewed up by fate and high society that never accepts him.

Actually watched Scott's The Duelists again directly afterwards to compare and I spose you could argue whilst similar in some respects its the opposite with the protagonist not being doomed and the antagonist arguably driving the drama. I do think it has the edge in Keitel giving an excellent performance although really I spose Kubrick is never aiming for that. Visually Scott's film doesn't have quite the same oddball minimalism to it or anything quite as eyecatching as the Zeiss 50mm F/0.7 candle scenes but I do find his compositions more interesting, well the first hour or so and the final duel anyway before the budget starts to show rather more. His duels really do hold up very well indeed as well, the sabre one was rather ripped off for Rob Roy.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 05, 2018, 08:09:19 AM
has Scott's Black Rain ever come out on a watchable version?

The American blu ray (which is region free) is correct.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2018, 03:09:57 PM
I've seen the first couple and three colours which are like extended versions. Love them, but find them bleak.

Blind Chance is excellent as well.

This week I was fortunate enough to catch Jaques Tati's playtime in the cinema. What wonderful set dressing and sight gags!

I also watched the excellent Dead Presidents.

The GFT has a Berlin film festival on at the minute, off to see The Lives of Others later, they've got Wings of Desire on tomorrow, which I have on bluray but shamefully haven't watched, I think wenders is deserving of the big screen though.
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Post by: Z on August 05, 2018, 06:04:21 PM
Prevenge
I dunno, not very good, I guess.
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Post by: Blumf on August 05, 2018, 06:53:26 PM
This week I was fortunate enough to catch Jaques Tati's playtime in the cinema. What wonderful set dressing and sight gags!

I always have the feeling that Jacques Tati gets overlooked these days. He never seems to be mentioned much despite being so influential. When was the last time Film4 or something had a season of his films?

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8vfcqwn-rHI/VuVmbLTcZFI/AAAAAAAAGWY/Og1zUPUxCbgUTPkaqNl9Qy4QxWFYVlqHg/s640/mon-oncle-o.gif)
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2018, 07:23:45 PM
I always have the feeling that Jacques Tati gets overlooked these days. He never seems to be mentioned much despite being so influential. When was the last time Film4 or something had a season of his films?

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8vfcqwn-rHI/VuVmbLTcZFI/AAAAAAAAGWY/Og1zUPUxCbgUTPkaqNl9Qy4QxWFYVlqHg/s640/mon-oncle-o.gif)


I'd not seen it before but Hulot seemed like a prototype Closeau and elements of it made me think of things like Brazil.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on August 05, 2018, 07:42:08 PM
Prevenge
I dunno, not very good, I guess.

I had some minor issues with it but really enjoyed it as a whole - more thoughts on it can be found here: https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,57351.0.html
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2018, 09:09:26 PM
Went to see The Lives of Others as mentioned up thread. They had to restart it as they fucked up the alignment of the subtitles in the first scene meaning the bottom row (and thus 90% of the dialogue was chopped off).

Forgot how good it looks. Really well lit.
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Post by: greenman on August 06, 2018, 01:56:16 AM
I've seen the first couple and three colours which are like extended versions. Love them, but find them bleak.

I would say that's countered though by him being fundamentally a "nice" director/writer, depressing things happen but not in a nasty way.
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Post by: St_Eddie on August 06, 2018, 02:07:47 AM
Florence Foster Jenkins - A film about one of the worst singers of all time (factual but embellished).  Absolutely incredible.  The cinematorphy is striking and period apropriate (if Speilberg has an once of wit, then he'll hire Danny Cohen instead his usual modern day go-to, Janusz Kamiński as Indiana Jones V's cinematographer because Cohen's cinematography is much closer to Douglas Slocombe's original work on the original Indiana Jones trilogy, than Kamiński's halo effect bollocks).  This film is nigh on perfect.  I was in floods of tears towards the end of the film.  I felt that it was akin to a long lost Coen Brothers film.  In fact, I'd forgotten how much cinema could emotialionally effect the viewer, until I saw this film.  I can't fault it in any way and I'd award it a 10 out of 10, except for the fact that I reserve those scores for my favourite films of all time.  Therefore...

9/10 - Absolutely incredible.  Funny, moving and beautifully shot.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 06, 2018, 02:17:25 AM
I would say that's countered though by him being fundamentally a "nice" director/writer, depressing things happen but not in a nasty way.

Three Colours White was entirely spiteful.
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Post by: greenman on August 06, 2018, 06:40:06 AM
Three Colours White was entirely spiteful.

I spose somewhat true but not really typical of him, not the same as watching say Hanke.
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Post by: greenman on August 06, 2018, 11:47:51 AM
As for Stalker, definitely the Criterion - 2K scan and I think it's the only one with the proper original mono soundtrack.

Just got this and it really is night and day, I'm not typically an extreme videophile but that's a massive upgrade, more akin to moving from VHS to Bluray than DVD to Bluray.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on August 09, 2018, 07:28:50 PM
The Sasquatch Gang - Listed in the "Your Favourite Films" thread by SteveDave, I enjoyed this a fair bit, it's a very endearing and silly comedy. It's a bit by the numbers and fairly predictable but the laughs are present and it's definitely worth checking out. 7.0/10.
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Post by: greenman on August 10, 2018, 08:40:33 AM
Watched Love Exposure last night and whilst I can see why as mentioned in the top 10 thread a synopsis might seem a little obvious/knowing in its politics the reality offers a lot more character and humour than that. Given that its a 4 hour film about religion and sex with a graphic "yakuza high blood pressure" castration in it(although really the only way its sexually graphic, besides that its all panties and comedy tenting erections) scene in it the film really did have a surprising warmth to it. The various Ravel scored scenes of "upskirt training" were some of the best comedy I'v seen in awhile being thankfully untroubled by blokishness. The deprograming by the beach actually shifted into very nicely filmed subtle atmosphere as well and the climax as a whole definitely hit its mark dramatically.

I'v not seen anything else by Sion Sono but just watching this I can kind of see your view Horse that it was a bit of a lighting strike moment for him, dispite being the popular opposite in some respects it did actually strike me as rather similar to Blue is the Warmest Colour of a previously talented director(I mean I liked Secret of the Grain a lot but not at the same level)but hitting career best form with a certain story/cast and playing it out to the absolute maximum length wise, isn't there a 6 hour cut around?
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on August 10, 2018, 11:26:30 AM
Watched Love Exposure last night and whilst I can see why as mentioned in the top 10 thread a synopsis might seem a little obvious/knowing in its politics the reality offers a lot more character and humour than that. Given that its a 4 hour film about religion and sex with a graphic "yakuza high blood pressure" castration in it(although really the only way its sexually graphic, besides that its all panties and comedy tenting erections) scene in it the film really did have a surprising warmth to it. The various Ravel scored scenes of "upskirt training" were some of the best comedy I'v seen in awhile being thankfully untroubled by blokishness. The deprograming by the beach actually shifted into very nicely filmed subtle atmosphere as well and the climax as a whole definitely hit its mark dramatically.

I'v not seen anything else by Sion Sono but just watching this I can kind of see your view Horse that it was a bit of a lighting strike moment for him, dispite being the popular opposite in some respects it did actually strike me as rather similar to Blue is the Warmest Colour of a previously talented director(I mean I liked Secret of the Grain a lot but not at the same level)but hitting career best form with a certain story/cast and playing it out to the absolute maximum length wise, isn't there a 6 hour cut around?

I'm really glad you enjoyed it and that's a great piece of writing. I wasn't aware that there was a 6 hour cut but apparently it was released last year on blu-ray, but unfortunately I can't find it anywhere (and I'm a member of Avistaz which is normally good for that sort of thing and where I found a lot of other Sion Sono films) and the official release doesn't have subtitles sadly.

I've had Blue Is The Warmest Colour on my external hard drive since it leaked online but still haven't got round to watching it - is it as good as everyone says?
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Post by: greenman on August 10, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
I'm really glad you enjoyed it and that's a great piece of writing. I wasn't aware that there was a 6 hour cut but apparently it was released last year on blu-ray, but unfortunately I can't find it anywhere (and I'm a member of Avistaz which is normally good for that sort of thing and where I found a lot of other Sion Sono films) and the official release doesn't have subtitles sadly.

I've had Blue Is The Warmest Colour on my external hard drive since it leaked online but still haven't got round to watching it - is it as good as everyone says?

I certainly didn't see any sign of a western release of the 6 hour cut when looking for it online, seems like the kind of thing someone might have done homemade subtitles for though so perhaps look for a download? I did find it quite a unique experience in that it feels both like blinge watching a TV miniseries but also keeps to a single dramatic arc so I can imagine a longer cut still working well. As it is I kind of felt its length is actually what made it warmer, I can imagine a shorter version for example not featuring much of his gangmates who I think really stopped the story from becoming overly nasty in their goofy innocence.

As I said I wouldn't expect Blue is the Warmest Colour to be similar to this in style, Kechiche generally comes across as the most serious man alive and would I'd imagine sooner jump off a bridge than make a meta joke. That said does kind of strike me as a more grounded Kieslowski, fundamentally a "nice" director(in style if not in public persona) more likely to leave the audience in tears than shocked silence but with more of an eye for class issues and most obviously here romance heavily tied up to more overt sexual desire. I suspect part of the fuss on release was down to this really being more a film about class than homosexuality, I mean it does feature some comment on issues like homophobia but more though the prism of the characters different experience of it but issues like views of the merits of different careers feature even more. Added to that I think its at odds with the common view that graphic sex is only justified if its depicting some kind of dysfunctional "other"(Shame, etc), here its unashamedly trying to get across the characters desires and turn the audience on as they are, not just in terms of nudity but near constant sexual tension.

Gotten as far as episode 6 of the Dekalog by the way, I'd agree with the consensus that episode 5/A Short Film About Killing was the best so far and one of the most effecting things I'v ever seen, I think helped by not focusing on any kind of direct justification for the crime itself. Episode 3(taxi driver and his former mistress) was really nicely done as well I thought really capturing that late night atmosphere in a city as well as introducing the story subtly, I think you can see why Kubrick liked to so much dispite tended to go the opposite way dramatically himself. I must admit it is kind of leaving me thinking that actually a lot of the "golden age of TV" isn't really as ambitious as it might be given the budget here is probably tiny, I'm trying to think of many examples that really pushed things visually and introduced there drama so subtly, maybe parts of The Night Of?
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Post by: SteveDave on August 10, 2018, 12:26:53 PM
The Sasquatch Gang - Listed in the "Your Favourite Films" thread by SteveDave, I enjoyed this a fair bit, it's a very endearing and silly comedy. It's a bit by the numbers and fairly predictable but the laughs are present and it's definitely worth checking out. 7.0/10.

I could watch Justin Long jumping off that speedboat whilst trying to prove he could run on water all day.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 11, 2018, 06:03:37 PM
Just seen the excellent German film Victoria. Excellent thriller in itself made an even more impressive by being mostly improvised (12 page script) and filmed in a single continuous take. Good soundtrack too, that I spotted was done by Nihls Frahm.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 12, 2018, 03:55:36 PM
After watching that I watched Eyes Wide Shut. It was alright. Seemed like a case of style over substance though really.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 12, 2018, 04:36:32 PM
After watching that I watched Eyes Wide Shut. It was alright. Seemed like a case of style over substance though really.

The only Kubrick film I saw when first released.  Absolute dogshit.  And I'm a huge Kubrick fan.
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Post by: St_Eddie on August 12, 2018, 04:47:12 PM
After watching that I watched Eyes Wide Shut. It was alright. Seemed like a case of style over substance though really.

There's a ton of subtext in Eyes Wide Shut.  That doesn't mean that it's a good film of course (though I think that it is) but it's most definitely not a case of style over substance.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 12, 2018, 04:54:23 PM
There's a ton of subtext in Eyes Wide Shut.  That doesn't mean that it's a good film of course (though I think that it is) but it's most definitely not a case of style over substance.

Absolutely - it's actually dogshit over everything else, including style.

Christ, I hate that fucking film.  I was so looking forward to it, but my heart sank within the first ten minutes.

Mind you, I know more than one person who doesn't like Kubrick that thinks it's his best film by far, so go figure.
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Post by: St_Eddie on August 12, 2018, 07:18:05 PM
...Mind you, I know more than one person who doesn't like Kubrick that thinks it's his best film by far, so go figure.

Personally, I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's my favourite Kubrick film but it's certainly up there.  A Clockwork Orange is probably my favourite but ask me next week and I might have changed my mind.  Fickle, dilly-dallying fucker that I am.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 12, 2018, 08:53:06 PM
To me it almost felt a like a Lynch film that failed to convey sureallness and a sense of foreboding.
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Post by: greenman on August 12, 2018, 11:40:04 PM
Some how I'v managed never to see it, I must admit Cruises presense did naturally make me think it had shifted towards safer blandness.

Watched Andrei Rublev for the first time last night, actually surprised at the scale of it relative to his more personal 70's work but I spose extra's were cheap in the USSR. It is quite a thing to see the same level of visual composition for scenes of that scale, the Tartar raid would I'd say give the volcanic castle siege in Ran a run for its money as the best looking battle scene ever filmed. That scene with the pagans earlier in the film as well is really unlike anything else I can remembers seeing in its dreamy atmosphere. Dramatically it also felt rather different to his latter work as well, I was expecting a similar personal focus of the lead character yet its really operating as much though giving a feeling of the era as a whole, still I think very effective even to someone without indepth knowledge of the era.
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Post by: icehaven on August 13, 2018, 08:23:45 AM
Watched the 1958 version of The Fly yesterday, found the fly with the man's head at the end way more disturbing than the man with the fly's head (and arm), which was actually quite cute.
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Post by: St_Eddie on August 13, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
Some how I'v managed never to see it, I must admit Cruises presense did naturally make me think it had shifted towards safer blandness...

I understand how one could assume that but I don't think that's it's true for Eyes Wide Shit.  Both that film and Magnolia are two films which have Tom Cruise giving a much more interesting performance than his usual fare.
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Post by: St_Eddie on August 13, 2018, 12:26:49 PM
Watched the 1958 version of The Fly yesterday, found the fly with the man's head at the end way more disturbing than the man with the fly's head (and arm), which was actually quite cute.

It's a great film and I agree, the fly with a man's head at the end is disturbing as all heck.  Don't bother with the sequel, it's shit.  Good for a laugh though, as there's a shot of a fly with a man's head in that too and it's hilarious...

(https://i.imgur.com/C9wFivw.gif)

His eyes are looking around like a confused Dougal from Father Ted, wondering why he's suddenly part fly.
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Post by: thecuriousorange on August 13, 2018, 05:43:33 PM
Yesterday's Netflix and chill.

Jackie: Nice to look at if Kubrick-esque symmetrical shots and Mad-Mad outfits are your thing. But overall empty and a bit forgettable.

Pride: Gay-rights tale told as a punch-the-air, feel-good Brit flick with a jukebox soundtrack. Regional accents and diluted Ken Loach. Taking nothing away from the ISSUES in the story, I found this incredibly cliched and at times indistinguishable from Billy Elliot/Full Monty etc.

Edge of Seventeen. Above-average teen movie with a great lead performance. Has more in common with Ghost World/Ladybird than the type of flick I was expecting.

How to Train Your Dragon: I wandered out of the room after about 20 minutes but it looked decent if you're in the right mood.
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Post by: DukeDeMondo on August 13, 2018, 07:01:36 PM
I found this incredibly cliched and at times indistinguishable from Billy Elliot/Full Monty etc

What's wrong with Billy Elliot or The Full Monty?

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Post by: thecuriousorange on August 13, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
I like The Full Monty. I'm just saying aspects of this new film followed a now-established formula.
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Post by: Small Man Big Horse on August 13, 2018, 07:17:46 PM
I loved Pride to pieces, thought it was a joyously beautiful little thing.
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Post by: greenman on August 13, 2018, 09:17:52 PM
I understand how one could assume that but I don't think that's it's true for Eyes Wide Shit.  Both that film and Magnolia are two films which have Tom Cruise giving a much more interesting performance than his usual fare.

Its been moreso I'd just ended up going with something else repeatedly over active avoidance of it.
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Post by: hedgehog90 on August 14, 2018, 01:43:22 AM
Just seen Paris, Texas.
One of the most beautiful and heartening films I've seen in a while/ever.
The outdoor cinematography was so good it was almost distracting. The shots in twilight were breathtakingly gorgeous.
I would list my favourite moments but I'd probably end up writing out every scene.
Even squeezed a few tears out at the end.
Fucking marvelous!!
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 14, 2018, 07:58:15 AM
It's a fantastic film. Harry Dean Stanton was brilliant at looking forlorn in it.
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Post by: SteveDave on August 14, 2018, 09:05:54 AM
Friday The 13th.

Pfft. Very mild peril from a stocky old woman.
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Post by: greenman on August 14, 2018, 03:20:29 PM
Opinions on Cronenberg's Spider? I spose a lot depends how whether you like Fiennes performance or not, personally I do as I don't think the various ticks become showy or distracting as is often the case with mental illness shown on film and there is a very good subtle performance behind them.

You could call it a bit gimmicky I spose but the plot doesn't really feel like a Shyamalan rug pull, there's plenty to highlight whats actually going on before the end. Equally whilst it isn't really eye catchingly atmospheric that kind of crushing east end brick filled drabness suits it well.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Clownbaby on August 14, 2018, 08:35:09 PM
I enjoyed Drop Dead Gorgeous last night. Wasn't what I had expected.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 16, 2018, 11:37:23 AM
I've got a dilemma lads, the cinema are showing restored versions of Mildred Pierce and Jaques Rivette's The Nun, but because I'm away at the weekend I can only manage one of them.
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Post by: Large Noise on August 16, 2018, 12:43:24 PM
Just seen Paris, Texas.
One of the most beautiful and heartening films I've seen in a while/ever.
The outdoor cinematography was so good it was almost distracting. The shots in twilight were breathtakingly gorgeous.
I would list my favourite moments but I'd probably end up writing out every scene.
Even squeezed a few tears out at the end.
Fucking marvelous!!
He was too old for her. Creep.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Twit 2 on August 16, 2018, 02:17:29 PM
Some how I'v managed never to see it, I must admit Cruises presense did naturally make me think it had shifted towards safer blandness.

Watched Andrei Rublev for the first time last night, actually surprised at the scale of it relative to his more personal 70's work but I spose extra's were cheap in the USSR. It is quite a thing to see the same level of visual composition for scenes of that scale, the Tartar raid would I'd say give the volcanic castle siege in Ran a run for its money as the best looking battle scene ever filmed. That scene with the pagans earlier in the film as well is really unlike anything else I can remembers seeing in its dreamy atmosphere. Dramatically it also felt rather different to his latter work as well, I was expecting a similar personal focus of the lead character yet its really operating as much though giving a feeling of the era as a whole, still I think very effective even to someone without indepth knowledge of the era.

I think this may be my favourite film of a time. There’s stuff he pulllef off on that film - aesthetically and technically - that only a handful of directors could even dream of attempting since.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 16, 2018, 02:51:38 PM
I've got a dilemma lads, the cinema are showing restored versions of Mildred Pierce and Jaques Rivette's The Nun, but because I'm away at the weekend I can only manage one of them.

Hmm, tough choice, but I would plump for The Nun, purely because the benefits of a restoration would be more obvious and beneficial.  I also think it's the better film, but that's merely a subjective opinion.


Watched Andrei Rublev for the first time last night, actually surprised at the scale of it relative to his more personal 70's work but I spose extra's were cheap in the USSR. It is quite a thing to see the same level of visual composition for scenes of that scale, the Tartar raid would I'd say give the volcanic castle siege in Ran a run for its money as the best looking battle scene ever filmed. That scene with the pagans earlier in the film as well is really unlike anything else I can remembers seeing in its dreamy atmosphere. Dramatically it also felt rather different to his latter work as well, I was expecting a similar personal focus of the lead character yet its really operating as much though giving a feeling of the era as a whole, still I think very effective even to someone without indepth knowledge of the era.

Absolutely stunning - my favourite Tarkovsky film.  I have the up-coming Criterion blu on order (I already have the old Criterion DVD, but the blu has a new hi-def restoration).  That ending...

For a similar sort of massively scoped historical epic, give Aszparuh (AKA Khan Asparuh, AKA Glory of the Khan) a go, IF you can track down the full version.  It used to be on YouTube with English subs, but I can only find the unsubbed one on there.


Opinions on Cronenberg's Spider? I spose a lot depends how whether you like Fiennes performance or not, personally I do as I don't think the various ticks become showy or distracting as is often the case with mental illness shown on film and there is a very good subtle performance behind them.

You could call it a bit gimmicky I spose but the plot doesn't really feel like a Shyamalan rug pull, there's plenty to highlight whats actually going on before the end. Equally whilst it isn't really eye catchingly atmospheric that kind of crushing east end brick filled drabness suits it well.

It's alright.  Almost atypical Cronenberg.  Miranda Richardson's great in it.  I would agree that Fiennes is pretty low-key, especially given the state of the character.  It so easily could have been played over the top with good reason, and Cronenberg's often not the most subtle when it comes to directing actors.  It's a lot better than eXistenz, in my opinion.



Worked through the Star Wars prequel trilogy (as shown by ITV2 over the last few Sundays) for the first time since they were originally released, both out of curiosity in the wake of the abysmal Last Jedi, but also to see if my original thoughts about them (every single one of them dogshit) has changed over the years.  In response to those:

Last Jedi belongs with the prequels;
They are still dogshit.

The Phantom Menace - I had forgotten that, in the same way Omen 2 spends more time worrying about the day to day running of Thorn Industries than it does the fact the antichrist is walking the earth, so Phantom Menace spends a lot of time on galaxy politics and trade embargoes.  Exactly the sort of thing 10 year olds are really interested in.  Portman's accent all over the place, of course.  And Jedi superspeed, which is never seen or referred to again in any of the films.  Most of the actors don't care - Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson clearly just doing it for the money.  Wall-to-wall bad racial stereotyping as well, even allowing for it being a film set in another galaxy at another time.  Just as well the podrace sequence is quite short...

Attack of the Clones - remember how everyone at the time said the chase at the beginning and Yoda letting loose were amazing?  Well, they weren't then and they're not now.  Pretty sure when they go into the bar/casino looking for the assassin, the race they're showing on the screens in the background features that same animals that they're racing on the casino planet in Last Jedi, so there's a direct link to the prequels there.  Still no one cares, and I don't thin Haydn Christensen even understands the words he's saying.  Just an emotional vacuum.  Some excruciatingly bad matte shots, even for back then - Christopher Lee escaping on his trike thing is especially bad.

Revenge of the Sith - for a film that a lot of people said was incredibly dark back then, there's a lot of shit slapstick and one liners.  None of them land.  Somehow Portman is even worse than Christensen in it.  Younglings, shit Yoda again, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" - all of it just fist chewingly bad. 

All in all, George Lucas should be ashamed of himself, and the general public should be even more ashamed of themselves for lapping that shit up.  Objectively bad films, I don't care what anyone says.  They've aged terribly thanks to CGI which didn't look particularly good back then and, taken with TFA and LJ, make you start to think that the original trilogy came out good more by luck than judgement (although I maintain Rogue One is excellent and Solo is not that bad).
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on August 16, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
I think this may be my favourite film of a time. There’s stuff he pulllef off on that film - aesthetically and technically - that only a handful of directors could even dream of attempting since.

Actually ended up watching it a second time last night and yes it would already rate very highly with me indeed. Its a strange experience as it feels like its both looking backwards to Hollywood historical epics in some respects but forwards in terms of both visual/acting/sound and indeed morals beyond standard dogma in others. Looking back the use of Hunters In The Snow in Solaris almost feels like a reference to Andrei given the similarity of some of the shots although I think my favourite might be that one with the rides in the background and the trees in the foreground early on.

Picked up Ivan's Childhood and The Sacrifice as well so hopefully get around to watching one of those tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on August 16, 2018, 03:18:24 PM
Absolutely stunning - my favourite Tarkovsky film.  I have the up-coming Criterion blu on order (I already have the old Criterion DVD, but the blu has a new hi-def restoration).  That ending...

In this case the Artificial Eye BR actually looks pretty good(and relatively cheap at £9 from amazon), much better than the Stalker DVD, looking online Stalker and Nostalgia seem to be viewed as the worst of their releases. The upcoming criterion version looks like it has both the preffered shorter cut and the 20 min longer one as well though, might be tempted by that.

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It's alright.  Almost atypical Cronenberg.  Miranda Richardson's great in it.  I would agree that Fiennes is pretty low-key, especially given the state of the character.  It so easily could have been played over the top with good reason, and Cronenberg's often not the most subtle when it comes to directing actors.  It's a lot better than eXistenz, in my opinion.

I remember at the time thinking it might have gotten a better reception if it has been directed by someone else without the expectation that the gore would start flying at any moment. John Neville in Baron Munchausen mode is always good to watch as well.

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Worked through the Star Wars prequel trilogy (as shown by ITV2 over the last few Sundays) for the first time since they were originally released, both out of curiosity in the wake of the abysmal Last Jedi, but also to see if my original thoughts about them (every single one of them dogshit) has changed over the years.  In response to those:

Last Jedi belongs with the prequels;
They are still dogshit.

The Phantom Menace - I had forgotten that, in the same way Omen 2 spends more time worrying about the day to day running of Thorn Industries than it does the fact the antichrist is walking the earth, so Phantom Menace spends a lot of time on galaxy politics and trade embargoes.  Exactly the sort of thing 10 year olds are really interested in.  Portman's accent all over the place, of course.  And Jedi superspeed, which is never seen or referred to again in any of the films.  Most of the actors don't care - Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson clearly just doing it for the money.  Wall-to-wall bad racial stereotyping as well, even allowing for it being a film set in another galaxy at another time.  Just as well the podrace sequence is quite short...

Attack of the Clones - remember how everyone at the time said the chase at the beginning and Yoda letting loose were amazing?  Well, they weren't then and they're not now.  Pretty sure when they go into the bar/casino looking for the assassin, the race they're showing on the screens in the background features that same animals that they're racing on the casino planet in Last Jedi, so there's a direct link to the prequels there.  Still no one cares, and I don't thin Haydn Christensen even understands the words he's saying.  Just an emotional vacuum.  Some excruciatingly bad matte shots, even for back then - Christopher Lee escaping on his trike thing is especially bad.

Revenge of the Sith - for a film that a lot of people said was incredibly dark back then, there's a lot of shit slapstick and one liners.  None of them land.  Somehow Portman is even worse than Christensen in it.  Younglings, shit Yoda again, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" - all of it just fist chewingly bad. 

All in all, George Lucas should be ashamed of himself, and the general public should be even more ashamed of themselves for lapping that shit up.  Objectively bad films, I don't care what anyone says.  They've aged terribly thanks to CGI which didn't look particularly good back then and, taken with TFA and LJ, make you start to think that the original trilogy came out good more by luck than judgement (although I maintain Rogue One is excellent and Solo is not that bad).

Honestly I think the simplest explanation is the best, Lucas was way way out of form as a director and writer after 20+ years. I mean I don't think their totally devoid of inspiration and I can imagine some ideas behind of Phantom Menace(the underwater city, darth maul, etc) working with someone like Spileberg to put them to use as with Indy but it all just ends up as a mess here.

Its strange really that after all the fuss about the sequels being a reaction to Lucas they do actually end up being rather similar in many respects, especially the infusion of childish nonsense which Rogue One mostly avoided. It seems almost the climate of the times though to me where most blockbusters can only exist with some inbuilt meta commentary, admittedly Marvel can actually pull this off but here it just comes across as woefully misjudged.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 16, 2018, 04:31:01 PM


I think I'm leaning towards that. Do you know if the tarkovski br collection that's about 50 quid on amazon is any good?
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Post by: greenman on August 16, 2018, 05:29:47 PM
I think I'm leaning towards that. Do you know if the tarkovski br collection that's about 50 quid on amazon is any good?

The Artificial Eye one? again my experience(with the DVD but I can't imagine the BR is much better) is that Stalker was pretty poor, very grainy/damaged(although I spose it does have a certain appeal) as I remember seeing previously, the Criterion BR wasn't your videophile hair-splitting improvement it really was miles better.

Besides that Solaris and Mirror I picked up on DVD at the same time both looked fine and more recently the Andrei BR was very good as well, watching the very starts of the BR's just now Ivan's Childhood seems excellent and the Sacrifice seem good as well. Reviews online though tend to suggest Nostalgia isn't quite as good although not nearly as bad as Stalker.

That said the boxset is quite a bit saving over buying them separately isn't it? might be worth it even if you ended up getting the Criterion Stalker as well.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on August 16, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Objectively bad films, I don't care what anyone says.

"Ooohhhh, you can't say that!  There's no such thing as objectivity in the critique of art.  A film by Tommy Wiseau is not objectively inferior to a film by Stanley Kubrick.  It's all entirely subjective.  People who teach film studies are charlatans.  There is no skill or technique that can be taught because subjectivity is everything.  Blah blah blah blah blah."
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Large Noise on August 17, 2018, 09:35:39 PM
Solaris (1972) and Antichrist (2011):

Happened to watch these in close succession and there were a few similarities. Both about a male psychologist dealing with a mentally unstable female partner in a place where things aren't quite what they seem. Both involve a person's interior world manifesting in exterior reality. Unreal things become real in Solaris, to the point where there's no meaningful difference. In Antichrist it's as if the world was always more akin to how it seems during a bout of depression/anxiety, and mental illness just allows the characters to see it for what it is.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 17, 2018, 09:46:24 PM
"Ooohhhh, you can't say that!  There's no such thing as objectivity in the critique of art.  A film by Tommy Wiseau is not objectively inferior to a film by Stanley Kubrick.  It's all entirely subjective.  People who teach film studies are charlatans.  There is no skill or technique that can be taught because subjectivity is everything.  Blah blah blah blah blah."

I think the Star Wars prequels are the exceptions that everyone agrees on.

And if they don't, they fucking well should.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 17, 2018, 09:49:29 PM
Yeah, went to see The Nun. It was decent. Although I was sat a bit close so reading it was a chore. Good though.

Probably going to ponce the film I missed tbh. I have a general rule that if the leading stars and director are dead then it's pretty much fine to download it.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on August 17, 2018, 10:48:26 PM
I think the Star Wars prequels are the exceptions that everyone agrees on.

And if they don't, they fucking well should.

Well then, if the people whom gave me a hard time, saying that one can't be objectively critical of art, agree that the prequels are objectively bad movies, then their argument instantly loses all credibility.  You can't pick and choose which art can be objectively critiqued.
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Post by: Blinder Data on August 17, 2018, 10:55:34 PM
Just watched Se7en for the first time. Fucking hell, what an ending. What a movie. My stomach was in knots for the last half an hour - Fincher (plus fantastic actors, editor, composer, etc.) know how to create a powerful sense of dread[/superhans]. The Hemingway quotation at the end felt tacked on to please bleak-wary studio execs and reading Wiki, turns out it was! It looked absolutely amazing too.

Continuing the 90s VHS classics theme, saw Good Will Hunting for the first time. I thought it would be a mawkish outdated Oscar-hungry sobfest - in the end I loved the big silly thing. Robin Williams was such a fantastic actor, a fount of subtlety and sadness. Dialogue veered from clichéd nonsense to powerful stuff, especially the monologues. Despite a couple of sore thumbs (Driver and Skarsgard), I loved all the wankers in this movie. You go get her, Will!
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 17, 2018, 11:13:38 PM
Well then, if the people whom gave me a hard time, saying that one can't be objectively critical of art, agree that the prequels are objectively bad movies, then their argument instantly loses all credibility.  You can't pick and choose which art can be objectively critiqued.

Just checking that wasn't me?  I mean, I don't remember such a discussion, and I think there are lots of films that are objectively bad.  Even proper ones with large budgets (like the prequels)...


Just watched Se7en for the first time. Fucking hell, what an ending. What a movie. My stomach was in knots for the last half an hour - Fincher (plus fantastic actors, editor, composer, etc.) know how to create a powerful sense of dread[/superhans]. The Hemingway quotation at the end felt tacked on to please bleak-wary studio execs and reading Wiki, turns out it was! It looked absolutely amazing too.

How can you not have seen Se7en?!??!?!?!  I hope the answer is because you're very young.  Cos, otherwise...well, I just don't know, I'm that gob smacked.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: greenman on August 17, 2018, 11:22:31 PM
Got on to Ivan's Childhood and whilst its definitely the most conventional Tarkovsky I'v seen its still not your conventional war film(no actual fighting takes place) and indeed is almost as glorious to look at as Andrei Rublev. In a way it stands out even moreso in a more straight forward faster moving work, I would actually say next to Solaris might be the best intro to him.

That kiss scene in the silver birches especially is one of the most beuiftul I'v ever seen...

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/10/fe/fd/10fefd9c7e4f4ac8b5a828b4d938bdb4.gif)
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: St_Eddie on August 17, 2018, 11:35:07 PM
Just checking that wasn't me?  I mean, I don't remember such a discussion, and I think there are lots of films that are objectively bad.  Even proper ones with large budgets (like the prequels)...

Definitely not you, mate.  You're one of the good ones.  I got piled on in that toxic The Last Jedi thread.  I'm still pissed off about it.  You wouldn't believe the number of people who get actively hostile when you dare to suggest that it's possible to be objectively critical of a film, outside of your own subjective thoughts and opinions.

I've been called all sorts; mostly 'elitist' and 'snob', for stating my stance on objectivity vs subjectivity (short version; they are both separate forms of critique but can happily co-exist alongside each other).  Never mind that I explained that's there's plenty of films which I subjectively don't care for but still acknowledge that they're objective good films (and vice versa).  No, I'm just an elitist snob, who's trying to use the word 'objectivity' to validate my own subjective taste in film.  Fuck's sake.

But I'm not bitter.

...Much.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Blinder Data on August 17, 2018, 11:45:14 PM
How can you not have seen Se7en?!??!?!?!  I hope the answer is because you're very young.  Cos, otherwise...well, I just don't know, I'm that gob smacked.

I know, I know. Was a tot when it first came out but that's no excuse when everyone and his older brother had seen it when I was growing up. I did know enough about the ending though.

Not seen Shawshank either... :/
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 17, 2018, 11:46:38 PM
Definitely not you, mate.  You're one of the good ones.  I got piled on in that toxic The Last Jedi thread.  I'm still pissed off about it.  You wouldn't believe the number of people who get actively hostile when you dare to suggest that it's possible to be objectively critical of a film, outside of your own subjective thoughts and opinions.

I've been called all sorts; mostly 'elitist' and 'snob', for stating my stance on objectivity vs subjectivity (short version; they are both separate forms of critique but can happily co-exist alongside each other).  Never mind that I explained that's there's plenty of films which I subjectively don't care for but still acknowledge that they're objective good films (and vice versa).  No, I'm just an elitist snob, who's trying to use the word 'objectivity' to validate my own subjective taste in film.  Fuck's sake.

But I'm not bitter.

...Much.

Well, I ducked out of the Last Jedi thread after stating my opinion that it was shit and just seemed like it was another one of the prequels.

In fact, I can't think of another film made after such a gap in time and by a (mostly) different group of people and such different technology at their fingertips that belonged so much with something of the past (in a bad way, you understand).  Even Blade Runner 2049 is worlds apart from the original.


I know, I know. Was a tot when it first came out but that's no excuse when everyone and his older brother had seen it when I was growing up. I did know enough about the ending though.

Not seen Shawshank either... :/

Fair doos.  Shawshank next then...
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Post by: New Jack on August 17, 2018, 11:53:46 PM
Watched High Plains Drifter.

Was good. A bit weird. There's a rape scene. I just took it as antihero Clint, but wouldn't play today, no no no. Strange to see the Man with no Name give it hard.

Pretty charmingly offbeat though, satisfied the usual Western tropes I like. Ending gave it a bit of a supernatural bent.

I recommend it!
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 17, 2018, 11:59:06 PM
Watched High Plains Drifter.

Was good. A bit weird. There's a rape scene. I just took it as antihero Clint, but wouldn't play today, no no no. Strange to see the Man with no Name give it hard.

Pretty charmingly offbeat though, satisfied the usual Western tropes I like. Ending gave it a bit of a supernatural bent.

I recommend it!

My favourite of Clint's films outside of Leone.  The devil turns up, renames the town Hell, paints it red, and then proceeds to fuck everyone up.  It really is a western masterpiece.
Title: Re: What Non-New Films Have You Seen? (2018 Edition)
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 18, 2018, 12:01:00 AM
Got on to Ivan's Childhood and whilst its definitely the most conventional Tarkovsky I'v seen its still not your conventional war film(no actual fighting takes place) and indeed is almost as glorious to look at as Andrei Rublev. In a way it stands out even moreso in a more straight forward faster moving work, I would actually say next to Solaris might be the best intro to him.

That kiss scene in the silver birches especially is one of the most beuiftul I'v