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Title: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Satchmo Distel on July 29, 2018, 05:10:57 PM
Thatcher - compare 1971-75 to the Iron Lady voice. A deliberate makeover.

John Peel - 1967 v 1980s, very different, trying to eliminate the public school background

John Lennon varied the scouse content of his accent quite a bit and then after 1971 became more New York inflected for obvious reasons.

Bowie - tried to be more working class

Mick Jagger - sometimes posh (say, at the cricket), sometimes more geezer.

Stuart Maconie - not so much accent change but I think he talks more slowly. Listen to him in the early 90s and he sounds like he's on speed by comparison.

Elvis Costello and Morrissey both seem to vary the amount or Irish and northern in their voices, despite not having been raised in Ireland or lived in the north for decades
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Bazooka on July 29, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
John 'Torchwood' Barrowman is the king of this, having seen him speak American in everything, I caught him on a vet/animal rescue thing and he was speaking full Scot tongue, thought I'd had a stroke.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 05:57:52 PM
John 'Torchwood' Barrowman is the king of this, having seen him speak American in everything, I caught him on a vet/animal rescue thing and he was speaking full Scot tongue, thought I'd had a stroke.

I hate that so much.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: chocolate teapot on July 29, 2018, 06:00:16 PM
John 'Torchwood' Barrowman is the king of this, having seen him speak American in everything, I caught him on a vet/animal rescue thing and he was speaking full Scot tongue, thought I'd had a stroke.

I don't know if you can help me with this but in the early to mid nineties there was a kids game show based on film trivia, I swear it was John Barrowman with full on Scottish accent. I can't find the name of this show anywhere and looking at his IMDB it doesn't mention anything like it.

FAKE EDIT - I just looked at again at imdb and it's under Self! Yeah he was fully Scottish on this show https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1223178/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_120
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 29, 2018, 06:00:23 PM
Sir Michael Caine dropped a few octaves around the time of Mona Lisa (1987), similarly Ray Winstone. He sounds like he has gargled a hedgehog smoothie since the 1979 days of Scum and Quadrophenia.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: a duncandisorderly on July 29, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
early in 1993, I was doing studio sound for an Mtv show which had the then-working-together page & coverdale as guests. I went to the pre-show holding area to see what these two hairy bastards were wearing, being as I needed to mic them up for a segment.

coverdale's originally from teesside, as am I, & he'd briefly dated the older sister of a near-neighbour of mine, before he joined the stream of english vocalists going to live in LA.

so I reminded him of this, telling him I lived at the end of a row of houses opposite the library in this little town, & did he remember a lass...?

"hell aye!" he yells, laughing, & starts to tell me all about it in a voice that sounded a lot like bob mortimer.

jimmy page looked like someone had hit him with a shovel.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Jockice on July 29, 2018, 06:08:49 PM
John 'Torchwood' Barrowman is the king of this, having seen him speak American in everything, I caught him on a vet/animal rescue thing and he was speaking full Scot tongue, thought I'd had a stroke.

And Sheena Easton is the queen of doing it in the opposite direction.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Captain Crunch on July 29, 2018, 06:18:24 PM
Thatcher - compare 1971-75 to the Iron Lady voice. A deliberate makeover.

The recent thing about the politics of accents was interesting, if totally predictable: 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06fs9wz
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Kane Jones on July 29, 2018, 06:21:01 PM
What about singers who do this? Biggest culprit is Paul Weller. Sounds all cockney in The Jam, fast forward to the likes of Changing Man and suddenly he's all gruff, bluesy and American.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 06:24:20 PM
^ i hate this with singers. Matt Bellamy went from a total whisper voiced sort of more weasel sounding Thom Yorke/banshee wailer to a weird cod-opera Bono. I don't know what he is on but Muse just get clunkier and clunkier with each album.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: mothman on July 29, 2018, 06:49:55 PM
Barrowman I think switches at will (I saw a documentary about his life and when he Skyped his parents - who are still in the US after emigrating there - he talks in his natural Scottish accent; he also used it in the Glasgow Commonwealth Games opening ceremony).

Gillian Anderson is all over the place, I think she changes without even realises it and only retains one accent when playing a role - if push came to shove she’d probably be considered to have a natural English accent (she started American, grew up here and ended up sounding English, then moved back to the US so started doing an American accent so as not to be picked on in high school).
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 29, 2018, 06:54:40 PM
Sir Michael Caine dropped a few octaves around the time of Mona Lisa (1987), similarly Ray Winstone. He sounds like he has gargled a hedgehog smoothie since the 1979 days of Scum and Quadrophenia.

*steve coogan and rob brydon enter the thread, expectantly*
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 06:57:07 PM
The strangely mixed accent Chris Morris does in IT Crowd and then suddenly doesn't do
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: manticore on July 29, 2018, 07:10:43 PM
Sandi Toksvig's story about coming to Britain with a heavy New York accent and being shunned at the girl's public school she went to, seeing Brief Encounter and deciding 'that's how I'm going to speak' is a funny one.

Of course some of the people one thinks of as really quite posh, like Harold Pinter and Sheila Hancock, are basically RADA creations.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 29, 2018, 07:16:37 PM
Dave Mason spoke with his natural Midlands accent until the early 70s when he went full American with a strong lean towards Californian.  If memory serves it was a conscious change on his part.

Yorkshireman John McLaughlin's accent has been morphing since the mid 60s.  He doesn't even sound like he's from this planet any more.

Jon Anderson's an interesting one.  Had a very strong Lanc accent until the late 70s, which then slowly became one of those awful "transatlantic" generic accents with no real home, and by the late 80s it was anyone's guess.  But, since becoming a naturalised American, he's got back quite a lot of his Lanc accent again.

Then you've got posho Brit Christopher Nolan and his very American brother Jonathan (although I understand a lot of Americans think he sounds "Briddish").


Sandi Toksvig's story about coming to Britain with a heavy New York accent and being shunned at the girl's public school she went to, seeing Brief Encounter and deciding 'that's how I'm going to speak' is a funny one.

The irony of that being that her New York accent now sounds terrible (as in phoney).
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 07:17:13 PM
It's so weird to me how some people will just pick up accents. One of my cousins was a teenager when she moved to Glasgow and she picked up the most exaggeratedly Glasgow accent, she still has it now.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Jack Shaftoe on July 29, 2018, 07:20:49 PM
I have some sympathy with this whole thing, as my family moved from Lancashire to Cornwall when I was about nine, and after one day of everyone in my new school taking the piss I decided to go for a neutral RP type accent, which I have to this day.

At the time it seemed quite sensible, but now I think what a craven little shit I was. Should have stuck it out.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Sherringford Hovis on July 29, 2018, 07:32:54 PM
Linsey Dawn McKenzie - worse after the plastic surgery
Sophie Dee - better after the plastic surgery

Lloyd Grossman's accent makes me want to drown him in a puddle though. Fuck's sake.

Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Brett Shrapnel on July 29, 2018, 07:34:59 PM
Tax dodging Tory cocksucker Gary Barlow seems to be trying to do some kind of Beatles accent.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 07:40:02 PM
I find it a bit weird (nobody else seems to have noticed this) but in Big Bang Theory I'm sure Sheldon talks with a slightly slower more slurred voice now. I don't regularly watch Big Bang or owt and I've noticed it, but fans who I've mentioned this to don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. He definitely doesn't sound as prim and crisp as he did. Circa season 5 he starts sounding ever-so-slightly slurred and I don't know if it's an acting choice from Jim Parsons or they're trying to subtly imply that Amy Farrah Fowler is drugging him. I doubt knowing Big Bang they'd be that creative though.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 29, 2018, 07:46:33 PM
Lloyd Grossman's accent makes me want to drown him in a puddle though. Fuck's sake.

In his defence, though, hasn't he always described it as a mid-atlantic accent that kept the worst of his original Boston mixed with the worst of wherever he settled in the UK?
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 07:47:21 PM
Tomaaarrrteau

That's how Loyd Grossman say tomato
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: BeardFaceMan on July 29, 2018, 07:48:52 PM
Sandi Toksvig's story about coming to Britain with a heavy New York accent and being shunned at the girl's public school she went to, seeing Brief Encounter and deciding 'that's how I'm going to speak' is a funny one.

People like Joe Lycett or Tom Allen, who clearly dont use their real accent (as I've heard them both say), where does that camp, kind of arch way of speaking come from? Are they also trying to emulate someone?
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 29, 2018, 07:50:14 PM
Tomaaarrrteau

That's how Loyd Grossman say tomato

There's another celeb who has a VERY similar accent to Grossman, but fucked if I can remember who it is now...
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: The Lurker on July 29, 2018, 07:50:32 PM
Unless there's a big North-East contingent on here, I don't suppose too many of you have seen the advert for Sunday For Sammy where Denise Welsh says in an exaggerated Geordie accent "get yaself doon to Window's shoppin' centa but hurry cos they'll gan dead fast!" I've never heard her speak like that on any TV show she's been on, so she's putting on an accent that she's lost.

And on the subject of losing a Geordie accent - Robson Green
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: royce coolidge on July 29, 2018, 07:57:22 PM
Surranne Jones when in Corrie used her normal "ey up chuck" north west accent,as the years have gone by and her success in more
respected stage and screen roles,her interview voice is now very posh and mannered,almost to Amelia Bulmore levels (Amelia was common in Corrie too but I think her poshness is real).
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Jockice on July 29, 2018, 08:09:08 PM
I have some sympathy with this whole thing, as my family moved from Lancashire to Cornwall when I was about nine, and after one day of everyone in my new school taking the piss I decided to go for a neutral RP type accent, which I have to this day.

At the time it seemed quite sensible, but now I think what a craven little shit I was. Should have stuck it out.

I did stick it out! My family moved from Scotland to England when I was seven and then moved house another twice in the next three years, the final time to a completely different area just before my last year at junior school. So that was four schools at which I was the only Scottish kid. Great fun as you can possibly imagine.

To this day I still have people asking why I still have a Scottish accent 45 years after moving to England. And my answer is...I dunno. But there are several possible explanations.
1) I just can't. Some people can do it and some people can't. Into the former camp I'd put a lad in the year above me at school who I bumped into in a train station about a month after he went to Sunderland Polytechnic and discovered he already had a fully-fledged Mackem accent. But he was Mr Average lookswise, which leads to:

2) For various physical reasons I was extremely unlikely to fit in anyway. So I'd just be the Scottish kid who changed his accent to try and fit in but still didn't. Plus I figured that if it added an extra bit of annoyance to those who disliked me anyway it might be worth keeping. It definitely wasn't because I wanted to stand out. I hate standing out. I really do.

3) Family reasons. Both my parents and my elder sister were and are Scots. Maybe it was just easier to keep it for home reasons. Plus on the day we left Scotland an aunt said: "Make sure you keep your accent." Maybe I thought that was an order. She died at the start of the century and one of the last things she said to me was something about being surprised that I still had my Scottish accent despite living in England so long. What, you mean I wasn't supposed to? Mind you, I once met a bloke with a strong Irish accent who had never been there in his life. But both his parents were Paddies so he'd just copied their accent.  Even I found that strange.

4) Or maybe I'm just a twat who overthinks things. In a Scottish accent.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 08:11:52 PM
There was an episode of My Parents Are Aliens where a Scottish  lad called Trent who'd been in it from the start revealed in the final episode that he ACTUALLY WASN'T SCOTTISH AND HAD BEEN FAKING IT THE WHOLE TIME. Such a shit and pointless twist
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Nowhere Man on July 29, 2018, 08:14:04 PM
All the Beatles, even George and Paul to a small extent lost their accents over the years, understandable since they spent a lot of time in the USA, but Ringo's weird midatlantic accent in particular irks me a bit these days, he says the word "and" very oddly, almost in a piss take sort of way. He even says "England" quite strangely in this recent-ish interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtG55zlN3L8&feature=youtu.be&t=19s
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Jockice on July 29, 2018, 08:24:12 PM
There was an episode of My Parents Are Aliens where a Scottish  lad called Trent who'd been in it from the start revealed in the final episode that he ACTUALLY WASN'T SCOTTISH AND HAD BEEN FAKING IT THE WHOLE TIME. Such a shit and pointless twist

English people can't do Scottish accents. In general anyway. Probably a few actors can but for most people trying to sound Scottish consists of saying Hoots Mon/Och Aye The Noo/See You Jimmy (three things I've never ever heard a single Scottish person say in real life, except in jest) in a voice that resembles every accent on earth. Except Scottish. Yet I'm supposed to laugh/be offended depending on what reaction the person is trying to elicit, at what appears to be a bizarre Welsh/Pakistani/German crossover. I'm torn between pitying them and wanting to hit them.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 08:38:47 PM
English people can't do Scottish accents. In general anyway. Probably a few actors can but for most people trying to sound Scottish consists of saying Hoots Mon/Och Aye The Noo/See You Jimmy (three things I've never ever heard a single Scottish person say in real life, except in jest) in a voice that resembles every accent on earth. Except Scottish. Yet I'm supposed to laugh/be offended depending on what reaction the person is trying to elicit, at what appears to be a bizarre Welsh/Pakistani/German crossover. I'm torn between pitying them and wanting to hit them.

Stupid thing was the guy who played Trent was actually genuinely Scottish, so he was putting on a really crappy sort of posh English accent for the "not Scottish" character. So stupid
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Phil_A on July 29, 2018, 08:40:11 PM
Bowie - tried to be more working class

Bowie was born and raised in Brixton, so it seems more like the RP accent he used to have was the affectation.

I've been comparing lots of old interview clips and I'd say what changed the most was losing that fey, slightly detached quality he had all the way up to about 1976, and then suddenly that goes and he's Mister Down-To-Earth, Alright Geezer from then on. I assume that must've been a conscious decision.

Bowie speaking to the press after his arrest for drug possession in 1976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ePnni_-VWI

Then this from 1977. What a difference a year makes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9iXOuNC8qI
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: mothman on July 29, 2018, 08:46:03 PM
My dad left Scotland 60 years ago and still has his accent despite living all over the world since. Well, I gather he has an accent, I can't hear it; he just sounds like my dad. I have a rather RP-lite accent, myself.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clive Langham on July 29, 2018, 08:49:02 PM
Bill Bryson's accent is weird - it's exactly 50% American and 50% English, but it's not at all a mid-Atlantic accent.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 29, 2018, 09:12:20 PM
Bowie was born and raised in Brixton, so it seems more like the RP accent he used to have was the affectation.

I've been comparing lots of old interview clips and I'd say what changed the most was losing that fey, slightly detached quality he had all the way up to about 1976, and then suddenly that goes and he's Mister Down-To-Earth, Alright Geezer from then on. I assume that must've been a conscious decision.

Bowie speaking to the press after his arrest for drug possession in 1976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ePnni_-VWI

Then this from 1977. What a difference a year makes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9iXOuNC8qI

The 1976 clip is him vocally 'wearing a court appearance suit from Colliers'
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: non capisco on July 29, 2018, 09:43:04 PM
Bowie was born and raised in Brixton, so it seems more like the RP accent he used to have was the affectation.
I've been comparing lots of old interview clips and I'd say what changed the most was losing that fey, slightly detached quality he had all the way up to about 1976, and then suddenly that goes and he's Mister Down-To-Earth, Alright Geezer from then on. I assume that must've been a conscious decision.

My cock-eyed theory on that would be that by 1977 he'd rescued himself from a life of what was probably non-stop cocaine psychosis and was presumably feeling delighted to be alive and socially engaged again, instead of chucking gak up his bracket day and night and experiencing a very detached form of relationship with other people where his addiction held dominion. He's often talked about how his coke use blurred a line in his head with his stage personas and his day-to-day personality, once he'd kicked the heavy drug use aside it was probably a relief to speak like a bloke from Beckenham again rather than an imperious space alien.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: paruses on July 29, 2018, 10:06:03 PM
English people can't do Scottish accents. In general anyway. Probably a few actors can but for most people trying to sound Scottish consists of saying Hoots Mon/Och Aye The Noo/See You Jimmy

Can Scottish people do intra-Scottish accents e.g. Glaswegians do that lovely soft north accent - in general? I agree with you that the go-to one tends to be an aggressive bad Glaswegian attempt but the better ones seem to be Edinburgh approximations.

I find it's generally true of english speakers doing accents - you get attempts at the extreme ones - strong Liverpudlian ones, terrible sub-Timothy Spall Brummy ones, or generic estuary english to cover the East London and  Essex but not many can do a Notts accent (the best accent there is) or a Cornish one (they just do Archer's accents) and anything Welsh is a poor Valley's rendition.

Have lost the thread of what I started - I think it was: I agree with you but it's not confined to Scottish accents.

p.s. regarding the souse accent - I hear it a lot because of where I work and a part of me still thinks it's put on.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 10:59:14 PM
Billy Corgan has always had a polarizing voice but it sounds really wrong recently
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Post by: greencalx on July 29, 2018, 11:16:47 PM
Quote
Och aye the noo

This is why I was surprised to discover that Geordies apparently do say “Why aye”.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 11:23:16 PM
I know a lass from Tyneside who sounds like Ant & Dec impersonating themselves simultaneously and she absolutely can't hear it at all. She swears she doesn't have a Geordie accent.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: manticore on July 29, 2018, 11:38:09 PM
Do you sound anything like a Geordie Clownbaby? Or is Cumbria quite distinct, it being right across the country and everything?  Do you sound like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpBwi594Ug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpBwi594Ug)
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 11:42:05 PM
Do you sound anything like a Geordie Clownbaby? Or is Cumbria quite distinct, it being right across the country and everything?  Do you sound like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpBwi594Ug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpBwi594Ug)

I WISH.

Nah that's a very obscure part of Cumbria in the rural bits I think, I live in the North near the Scottish border and non-Cumbrains have said I don't have much of an accent of any kind, then some people have said I have a massively Carlisle accent. Couldn't tell you myself.  I think I probably have a nothing accent peppered with the odd bit of Carlisle slang
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 29, 2018, 11:42:22 PM
I know a lass from Tyneside who sounds like Ant & Dec impersonating themselves simultaneously and she absolutely can't hear it at all. She swears she doesn't have a Geordie accent.

Since being forcibly untethered from my native strong Black Country, my accent now flaps in the prevailing wind. I have a combo RP-Dublin-East coast Canadian accent now. Sounds ridiculous, of course, so I have real empathy for yer Barrowmans etc
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: shiftwork2 on July 29, 2018, 11:47:22 PM
non-Cumbrains

Cripes.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Jockice on July 29, 2018, 11:49:17 PM
I WISH.

Nah that's a very obscure part of Cumbria in the rural bits I think, I live in the North near the Scottish border and non-Cumbrains have said I don't have much of an accent of any kind, then some people have said I have a massively Carlisle accent. Couldn't tell you myself.  I think I probably have a nothing accent peppered with the odd bit of Carlisle slang

Why doesn't that bloke on the advert who was born in Carlisle but made in the Royal Navy not have a Carlisle accent? It sounds much more north-eastern.And while we're at it, how exactly did he pull pints in a pub that doesn't actually exist?
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Clownbaby on July 29, 2018, 11:50:35 PM
Cripes.

Haaaaaaaaaaa.  You know what, I'm leaving it.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Jockice on July 29, 2018, 11:58:30 PM
Can Scottish people do intra-Scottish accents e.g. Glaswegians do that lovely soft north accent - in general? I agree with you that the go-to one tends to be an aggressive bad Glaswegian attempt but the better ones seem to be Edinburgh approximations.

I find it's generally true of english speakers doing accents - you get attempts at the extreme ones - strong Liverpudlian ones, terrible sub-Timothy Spall Brummy ones, or generic estuary english to cover the East London and  Essex but not many can do a Notts accent (the best accent there is) or a Cornish one (they just do Archer's accents) and anything Welsh is a poor Valley's rendition.

Have lost the thread of what I started - I think it was: I agree with you but it's not confined to Scottish accents.

p.s. regarding the souse accent - I hear it a lot because of where I work and a part of me still thinks it's put on.

Well, I'm from near Glasgow but pretty softly-spoken, which does sometimes confuse people. But yeah, some accents in England do get more poor-quality impersonations than others definitely.

I spend a lot of time in the east Midlands at the moment but haven't even noticed their accents. I'll have a closer listen on next visit. Honest.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: studpuppet on July 30, 2018, 12:21:01 AM
Both Barrowman (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNUSJihUtqA) and Gillian Anderson are bidialectal (which normally stems from linguistic insecurity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_insecurity)).

The more interesting ones are people who have had their accents changed by the culture surrounding them, the most obvious being Her Maj; compare her early speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsrRFNhdCOE), with something like her Diana Tribute (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heLTBaLGNQs).
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Psmith on July 30, 2018, 01:51:34 AM
I was surprised to hear David Tennant's very pleasant Scottish accent.If he had used it as The Doctor,I would have liked him,I think.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Sony Walkman Prophecies on July 30, 2018, 02:18:26 AM
What accent does Mark Kermode speak in? Anyone know?
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Sony Walkman Prophecies on July 30, 2018, 02:31:19 AM
The 1976 clip is him vocally 'wearing a court appearance suit from Colliers'

I've been told I speak like a posho version of Bowie by more than a couple of people. I think this is due to have done a lot of gak back in the day, and thus my teeth sometimes getting glued together (some sort of motor-neuron damage I'd guess) when I speak. Anyone wanting to imitate the Bowie sound, as a starting point, wouldn't go far wrong with just clenching their teeth and saying the word "theatricality" several times over. Good little warm up.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Dr Rock on July 30, 2018, 02:56:23 AM
I've yet to hear a Scotland person do a proper East Kent accent. It always sounds more Sussex than anything! The daft taffy hinnies.
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Nowhere Man on July 30, 2018, 03:35:16 AM
Bowie was born and raised in Brixton,

He might have been born in Brixton, but he moved to Bromley aged 6 (in 1953) and went to a Bromley school, then was living there and later in parts of Beckenham (which is still Bromley really) up until 1969, he even married Angie while living there. So in my opinion he'll always been a Bromley lad.

You can probably guess where I'm from ;)

(Actually the first Bromley house he moved into on Canon Road was right next door to the house I was in years later, strangely at the same age he was then.)
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Post by: Twed on July 30, 2018, 03:37:20 AM
Fiddington?
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Hecate on July 30, 2018, 05:55:01 AM
Hearing Bob Mortimer's telephone voice for the first time was a real head spinner.
The panel show he hosted on his own "29 minutes of fame" (according to google) I remember being a highlight.
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Post by: Gregory Torso on July 30, 2018, 05:57:53 AM
I haven’t listened to him for years but didn’t Mark Radcliffe start sort of weirdly speaking a bit like John Peel after JP died?
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Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 30, 2018, 06:10:28 AM
There's another celeb who has a VERY similar accent to Grossman, but fucked if I can remember who it is now...

Alvin hall?

Hi I'm Alvin haaaaaaaall
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Post by: famethrowa on July 30, 2018, 06:25:44 AM
All the Beatles, even George and Paul to a small extent lost their accents over the years, understandable since they spent a lot of time in the USA, but Ringo's weird midatlantic accent in particular irks me a bit these days, he says the word "and" very oddly, almost in a piss take sort of way. He even says "England" quite strangely in this recent-ish interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtG55zlN3L8&feature=youtu.be&t=19s

He should just say "I'm on droooms, I bluooody loove it"
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Post by: studpuppet on July 30, 2018, 08:16:27 AM
Alvin hall?

Hi I'm Alvin haaaaaaaall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvCSmBdsPWE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvCSmBdsPWE)
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Post by: DrGreggles on July 30, 2018, 08:25:58 AM
Joss Stone. The American singer.
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Post by: Jockice on July 30, 2018, 08:30:27 AM
Ian Curtis, the American singer.
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Post by: Dr Rock on July 30, 2018, 09:59:49 AM
I noted that on a recent 8 Out Of Ten Countdown, Sean Lock's voice sounded completely different. I'm assuming he has cancer or is preparing for a role.
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Post by: bgmnts on July 30, 2018, 10:12:24 AM
I want Tom Hardy to adopt his Locke "Welsh" accent forever.
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Post by: jobotic on July 30, 2018, 10:24:51 AM
I noted that on a recent 8 Out Of Ten Countdown, Sean Lock's voice sounded completely different. I'm assuming he has cancer or is preparing for a role.

aI noticed that but i wasn't really watching. Was it mentioned in the show?
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Post by: Dr Rock on July 30, 2018, 10:26:46 AM
Wasn't really watching.
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Post by: Clownbaby on July 30, 2018, 10:55:16 AM
Maybe he's lost his voice snd it's taking forever to come back. It's been bugging me too his weirdly husky voice
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Post by: Utter Shit on July 30, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
They didn't bring it up, but it's been slightly husky for the two episodes he's appeared on this series (the first of the series was an all-women special). That could cover just a couple of weeks, and hopefully does, but I haven't seen him on TV for a while prior to that so it could have been longer.

This is all a bit morbid but I found it odd that for part of the last series he suddenly had a shaved head which has now grown back...he had a beard as well though, so maybe it was for a job. He seems to be quite a private bloke (by which I mean he doesn't have a Twitter account, or more specifically has a Twitter account with only two tweets, one offering condolences for the death of Addison Cresswell and the other telling everyone to go fuck themselves) so it's difficult to know really, but I hope he's ok.
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Post by: jobotic on July 30, 2018, 11:05:54 AM
I saw him live at the beginning of the year a and he had the shaved head and beard. He referenced it but I can't remember what he said. Pretty sure he didn't mentioned illness though.

His voice was fine.
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Post by: Clownbaby on July 30, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
I'm thinking he's just got a dicky throat then.
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Post by: Jerzy Bondov on July 30, 2018, 11:24:59 AM
I've yet to hear a Scotland person do a proper East Kent accent. It always sounds more Sussex than anything! The daft taffy hinnies.
Limmy's English accent (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4elJ6GlRw) is absolutely spot on though.

Strongly criticising people's bad attempts at accents in films and on TV always sits a bit funny with me because I've met all sorts of people with totally insane weird accents. I bet there's loads of people who talk like Keanu Reeves in Dracula.
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Post by: Clownbaby on July 30, 2018, 11:27:46 AM
Benedict Cumberbatch's shit American accent in Doctor Strange. Marvel films always get something wrong.
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Post by: Jerzy Bondov on July 30, 2018, 11:37:37 AM
Benedict Cumberbatch's shit American accent in Doctor Strange. Marvel films always get something wrong.
Yes, he sounds like House. But, again, maybe Stephen Strange just has a weird accent for some reason. It's not the most far-fetched thing about the Sorceror Supreme.
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Post by: Clownbaby on July 30, 2018, 11:50:20 AM
I think that might be giving Marvel movies too much credit. I bet the 'batch just failed to execute a convincing American accent
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Post by: Pebble_Mill on July 30, 2018, 12:16:55 PM
Apologies if I've missed this being said, but Charlie Hunnam / Humdrum is a very strange one. On the one hand it seems like he never had much of a Geordie accent to lose, but on the other, he's such a befuddlingly terrible actor you can't be sure how much of any of his performances are weird or just plain shit.
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Post by: St_Eddie on July 30, 2018, 01:44:17 PM
It's so weird to me how some people will just pick up accents. One of my cousins was a teenager when she moved to Glasgow and she picked up the most exaggeratedly Glasgow accent, she still has it now.

I wonder if there's a correlation between people who easily pick up accents and people who are easily influenced.  People with an affected accent would probably be a stage hypnotist's wet dream.
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Post by: paruses on July 30, 2018, 03:22:18 PM
I wonder if there's a correlation between people who easily pick up accents and people who are easily influenced.  People with an affected accent would probably be a stage hypnotist's wet dream.

Or the opposite - isn't that mirroring thing a sociopath / negotiator tactic?
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Post by: manticore on July 30, 2018, 03:26:07 PM
I wonder if there's a correlation between people who easily pick up accents and people who are easily influenced.  People with an affected accent would probably be a stage hypnotist's wet dream.

I'm thinking this must be true. I can't imagine ever picking up an accent and when I went to a hypnotherapist she couldn't put me under, which proves the theory. (I fooled her by pretending though, which I feel guilty about, though it saved embarassment.)
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Post by: paruses on July 30, 2018, 03:30:29 PM
...when I went to a hypnotherapist she couldn't put me under, which proves the theory. (I fooled her by pretending though, which I feel guilty about, though it saved embarassment.)

Same but with a stage hypnotist during Fresher's week. He realized too and quickly pretended to put me back to sleep by bopping me on the head with the microphone and turning his attention to the one who was more convincing at pretending to be hypnotized.

I also pretended to be asleep when he bopped me on the head rather than taking it off him and sticking it up his arse.
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Post by: Clownbaby on July 30, 2018, 03:43:14 PM
A cooking teacher I had when I was about 11 believed that she had healing powers. She'd hover her hand over the area and say "it should start to feel warm any minute now!" There was a lad who had a sprained rust all wrapped up and start he did it for him started he was all like "oh yeah, that's weird it's totally working", obviously indulging her. One day I got a very bad neck injury from being absolutely whacked by a football and she tried it on me and it didn't do a thing, surprise surprise. It didn't feel warm or anything so I just told her it didn't work and nothing was happening and she was genuinely confused
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Post by: MiddleRabbit on July 30, 2018, 05:35:15 PM
I went on holiday to America a couple of years ago and, when I spoke as I normally do - a pretty mild northern English accent, just received blank looks from the people I spoke to.  I realised that if I put on a (fairly poor) American accent, I was immediately understood.  It was a bit odd, like WWII films in which the Germans speak English, but in a crappy German accent.

I reckon that's why it happens: so Americans can understand you if you're English.  Like the easiest language you can learn, putting on a shitty accent.

I didn't mind the Americans I met, they were just like big kids - naive and not so much friendly as over familiar. 

Just to stereotype millions of people based on about fifty I met in Florida...

Edit - Oh, Ian Brown morphed from being a pleasant, well spoken Northern, grammar school educated young man into someone who was raised in a ditch in Moss Side somewhere between the first album and Second Coming.
 
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 30, 2018, 06:06:13 PM
I went on holiday to America a couple of years ago and, when I spoke as I normally do - a pretty mild northern English accent, just received blank looks from the people I spoke to.  I realised that if I put on a (fairly poor) American accent, I was immediately understood.  It was a bit odd, like WWII films in which the Germans speak English, but in a crappy German accent.

I reckon that's why it happens: so Americans can understand you if you're English.  Like the easiest language you can learn, putting on a shitty accent.

I didn't mind the Americans I met, they were just like big kids - naive and not so much friendly as over familiar. 

Just to stereotype millions of people based on about fifty I met in Florida...

Edit - Oh, Ian Brown morphed from being a pleasant, well spoken Northern, grammar school educated young man into someone who was raised in a ditch in Moss Side somewhere between the first album and Second Coming.

Don't forget that most Americans are easily fooled by even the poorest attempt at an American accent - Bob Hoskins and the aforementioned Hugh Laurie are DEFINITELY American.  Where have they been hiding all of this time?  What's that?  They're BRIDDISH???!!!!  Fuck off, they're not!!!!!!!  OHMIGAAAAAAAAAD THEY ARRRRRRRE!!!!!

Apologies to any American CaBbers, but us Brits have seen and heard it time and time again - a well known star over here tries to break in the States, does what we think is a dreadful American accent but then has loads of American critics captivated by this unbelievably authentic American accent.  It's a very very odd thing.
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Post by: MiddleRabbit on July 30, 2018, 06:38:18 PM
Oh, it was definitely a shitty accent that I put on, but they didn't seem to mind.  In fact, as it meant I was no longer speaking a foreign language - apparently - they seemed to prefer that.  I hated myself for doing it.  A bit.
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Post by: Jockice on July 31, 2018, 11:08:04 AM
I've yet to hear a Scotland person do a proper East Kent accent. It always sounds more Sussex than anything! The daft taffy hinnies.

Fack off!
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Post by: Replies From View on July 31, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
Ringo Starr suddenly has a Californian twang (or whatever kind of US twang it is) whenever he says "and errr...".  Which is strangely often, but he doesn't employ it at any other time.  A very odd affectation.
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Post by: Replies From View on July 31, 2018, 11:24:01 AM
Lloyd Grossman's accent makes me want to drown him in a puddle though. Fuck's sake.

Funnily enough doesn't have the two Ls in his first name.  Loyd Grossman, his name is, which written down looks about as perverse as his voice sounds.

Also, was he "turning the tables" on the judges or "lifting the lid" on them?  A confusing man all round.
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Post by: Replies From View on July 31, 2018, 11:33:19 AM
There was an episode of My Parents Are Aliens where a Scottish  lad called Trent who'd been in it from the start revealed in the final episode that he ACTUALLY WASN'T SCOTTISH AND HAD BEEN FAKING IT THE WHOLE TIME. Such a shit and pointless twist

Was there a spin-off series called This Lad Isn't Even Scottish?
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Post by: Replies From View on July 31, 2018, 12:02:50 PM
This is why I was surprised to discover that Geordies apparently do say “Why aye”.

Usually "why aye man".
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Post by: Clownbaby on August 01, 2018, 10:46:53 AM
Was there a spin-off series called This Lad Isn't Even Scottish?

Should've been
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 01, 2018, 10:54:16 AM
John Lydon got more 'Cockney barra boy' since he moved to L.A in the eighties. I think he was desperate not to get a Californian twang so notched up his working class Norf Lundun geeza voice compared to the soft spoken lad from 1976,
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 01, 2018, 11:01:11 AM
Lewis Hamilton. Grew up sounding like a lad from Stevenage, ended up as a croaking, Transatlantic cunt.

THE RAPPERS WILL NEVER TRULY ACCEPT YOU, LEWIS.
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Post by: Jack Shaftoe on August 01, 2018, 11:23:32 AM
I did stick it out! My family moved from Scotland to England when I was seven and then moved house another twice in the next three years, the final time to a completely different area just before my last year at junior school. So that was four schools at which I was the only Scottish kid. Great fun as you can possibly imagine.


That's interesting, cheers! Made me realise that my parents don't have particularly strong accents, so probably I just reverted to talking like they did, as no-one around me had a Lancashire accent, so I just didn't hear it any more.
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Post by: The Lurker on August 01, 2018, 12:57:44 PM
Apologies if I've missed this being said, but Charlie Hunnam / Humdrum is a very strange one. On the one hand it seems like he never had much of a Geordie accent to lose, but on the other, he's such a befuddlingly terrible actor you can't be sure how much of any of his performances are weird or just plain shit.

His attempt at a Cockney accent in Green Street was fucking terrible.
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Post by: Hobo With A Shit Pun on August 01, 2018, 01:33:16 PM

I grew up in the North East (to quote Scotland The What?: "The North-East of Scotland, not the North-East of the UK, which is near Tyneside), but have lived in Edinburgh for twenty years. My friends are endlessly amused if I get a phone call from my family, because apparently my voice goes full Doric for the duration. I have no idea it happens.

Which prompts a musing: Would there be mileage in a chat show that surprises each guest with an interviewer who speaks in their (the 'sleb's) native accent, purely to have them unconsciously undermine their cultivated voice?
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Post by: George White on August 01, 2018, 01:47:49 PM
I hate that so much.
It doesn't work, because he's obviously lost the accent or never quite had it. He moved to the US when he was a small child. Though he had probably the most authentic Scots accent in Reign.
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Post by: George White on August 01, 2018, 01:53:20 PM
There's another celeb who has a VERY similar accent to Grossman, but fucked if I can remember who it is now...
Robin Leech? The opposite - a Brit in the US.
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Post by: Thomas on August 02, 2018, 10:34:34 AM
Cilla Black is sounding a lot more dead in recent years.
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Post by: George White on December 06, 2018, 09:44:59 PM
Barrowman's "Scots" reminds me of Sheena Easton/Lulu, with their weird Transatlantic accents and playing up thelocalisms. "I love po-tayto scohanns."
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Post by: Nice Relaxing Poo on December 06, 2018, 09:57:00 PM
I find Bill Brysons accent off putting, the bits of it that are English give him a slightly prissy sounding air.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on December 06, 2018, 10:05:35 PM
I find Bill Brysons accent off putting, the bits of it that are English give him a slightly prissy sounding air.

I find it very soothing, strangely. I use his audiobooks to fall asleep on planes guaranteed.

I can also do a half-decent impression, because his mannerisms are so predictable.
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Post by: George White on December 09, 2018, 10:04:50 AM
It's sort of like the George Plimpton-type intellectual American twang, but more rural.
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Post by: Phil_A on December 09, 2018, 11:01:26 AM
TV Offal had an incredible clip of Phillipa Forrester in her student TV days .

https://youtu.be/ca5RRaxmEgY?t=1077

"Apart from that there's FACK ALL on at the theatre this week."
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Post by: a duncandisorderly on December 09, 2018, 11:25:22 AM
four pages in & no sign of nigel fackin' kennedy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbPubIQr_g
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on December 09, 2018, 11:37:43 AM
Mary Anne Hobbs used to sound aggressive and more norther back in the R1 rock show and Breezeblock days, now she sounds mellow and giggly stoned. She lost most of her northerness on some R3 thing I heard her do and all.
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Post by: flotemysost on December 09, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
Some of my female (Southern English) friends have started to adopt a weird drawn-out vocal fry in their speech, which I assume is influenced by hearing how American celebrities talk, but with their accents it just makes them sound like vacuous Sloanes (which they're not), it's really irritating.

Lindsay Lohan debuted her new accent a couple of years ago, which to me sounded a bit like an automatic text-to-speech robot with a slight Slavic influence, but goodness knows where it came from.
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Post by: hummingofevil on December 09, 2018, 02:19:07 PM
Barrowman I think switches at will (I saw a documentary about his life and when he Skyped his parents - who are still in the US after emigrating there - he talks in his natural Scottish accent; he also used it in the Glasgow Commonwealth Games opening ceremony).

Explained here. https://youtu.be/lcKol37OR6s

“Yes? Or No?“
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Post by: Natnar on December 09, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
What about singers who do this? Biggest culprit is Paul Weller. Sounds all cockney in The Jam, fast forward to the likes of Changing Man and suddenly he's all gruff, bluesy and American.

Mike Scott of The Waterboys seems to sound more Irish the older he gets.
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Post by: JesusAndYourBush on December 09, 2018, 04:25:49 PM
Craig Ferguson poshed up massively since his Bing Hitler days.
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Post by: George White on December 10, 2018, 08:51:18 AM
Mike Scott of The Waterboys seems to sound more Irish the older he gets.
See also John Boorman. He sounds English, but more generically so, with a hint of the Anglo-Irish about certain pronunciations. Interviews with him when he was younger, he sounds just that little less "George Manning from Glenroe".
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Post by: im barry bethel on December 10, 2018, 09:12:24 AM
coverdale's originally from teesside, as am I, & he'd briefly dated the older sister of a near-neighbour of mine, before he joined the stream of english vocalists going to live in LA.

Brian Johnson was a full on Geordie welder before joining AC/DC and despite nearly 40yrs in LA his accent hasn't softened
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Post by: Mr Ashdown on December 10, 2018, 11:37:23 PM
There's another celeb who has a VERY similar accent to Grossman, but fucked if I can remember who it is now...

James Mason.
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Post by: Lost Oliver on December 11, 2018, 09:40:37 AM
Mark Watson? Didn't he pretend to be Welsh and then just stopped?
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: maett on December 11, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
My dear boy has no one's mentioned good old Wembley lad Keith Moon's affectation from some time in the late 60s until his death?
Title: Re: Celebs Who Change(d) Their Accents and/or Vocal Mannerisms
Post by: Mrs Wogans lemon drizzle on December 11, 2018, 01:34:38 PM
My accent softened when I went to University mainly due to the fact that no one understood what the fuck i was going on about.  When i went back home my mates used to take the piss out of my "southern" accent.   Couldn't win!
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on December 11, 2018, 01:49:46 PM
Mike Scott of The Waterboys seems to sound more Irish the older he gets.
Sure I read a Karl Wallinger jibe after he'd left the Waterboys about wanting to tell Scott to "stop pretending to be Irish".

I suppose there could have been a response about "stop pretending to be one of the Beatles", ho ho.