2016 US Presidential Race 3 - President Pussy-Grabber

[Barry Admin]

There you go, Johnnycakes.



Thread 1: The nightmare begins... And some of them, I assume, are good people. I'll keep you in suspense.
Thread 2: Debate 3 & Election Day... No, you're a puppet. Such a nasty woman.

[Johnny Caramel]

Damnit.

Edit - If Neil hadn't interfered it would either have been checkoutgirl or Quincey to have started this thread. Desperate board circlers each with their head full of mince. I'm pleased the glory was taken from them, but I still feel cheated of having found a new angle to hammer.

[Petey Pate]

It occurred to me the other day that this Blowfly track, which I saw getting shared around a bit when Obama was elected, now seems more applicable to a Trump presidency in some respects.

Blowfly - The First Black President

If only he hadn't died this year then he could have produced a track called 'President Pussy Grabber'.

[Alberon]

Looks like the CoD is being prodded into inviting Trump over to the UK. Probably on the grounds that fanning his ego by having royalty fawning over him will help us do a better deal with the US. Might work too. Liz must love this part of the job, being forced to entertain some real shits over the years[nb]Apparently when having Romanian butcher Ceausescu over in the late seventies she once hid behind a bush to avoid him. It's also been reported that valuable ornaments and paintings were removed from the Ceausescus' guest apartments to stop them stealing them. The French president had warned the Queen that it was as if burglars had moved in for the summer when they were in Paris.
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Meanwhile May is talking the usual wank about the 'Special Relationship' as if it actually exists. Does anyone anywhere believe in it anymore?

[Milverton]

Looks like the CoD is being prodded into inviting Trump over to the UK. Probably on the grounds that fanning his ego by having royalty fawning over him will help us do a better deal with the US. Might work too. Liz must love this part of the job, being forced to entertain some real shits over the years.

Meanwhile May is talking the usual wank about the 'Special Relationship' as if it actually exists. Does anyone anywhere believe in it anymore?

I don't see a problem with him coming here for a state visit. Apparently he is very pro-Royal, like his Scottish mother.

No such thing as the special relationship. Utter bollocks and always has been.

As for immigration I don't see anything wrong with this at all:

"The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public services they use impose burdens on our taxpayers.

In the budget I will present to you, we will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace.

We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years, and we must do more to stop it."

Simple common sense.

[marquis_de_sad]

As for immigration I don't see anything wrong with this at all

Who mentioned immigration? So pleased with this trap are you that you apparently couldn't even wait for the topic to come up naturally before deploying it. Not to mention that it's perfectly possible to dislike the Clintons and Trump. Or at least it's possible for people not dementedly loyal to partisan politics, strange though that might seem to you.

[Milverton]

Who mentioned immigration? So pleased with this trap are you that you apparently couldn't even wait for the topic to come up naturally before deploying it. Not to mention that it's perfectly possible to dislike the Clintons and Trump. Or at least it's possible for people not dementedly loyal to partisan politics, strange though that might seem to you.

Yoda? Is that you?

[Urinal Cake]

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  39m39 minutes ago
Many people would like to see @Nigel_Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/800887087780294656

Ha! Hahhaahaa

[Twed]

I just got back from a thing with Bernie. The man spoke eloquently and passionately for two hours straight. His stump performances didn't do him justice.

He was quite candid about the terms of his endorsement of Hillary, stating that it would have been easier to turn her platform positive than it will be trying to stop Trump doing negative things. There was not a hint of actual support in anything he said.

I also quite enjoyed him saying that they had a list of every promise Trump made during his campaigns, and they're going to challenge him on every one of them.

[Paul Calf]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/alt-right-gathering-donald-trump/

Washington (CNN)The racism and anti-Semitism of the alt-right movement were on display Saturday in Washington when its members gathered to celebrate Donald Trump's victory

[...] The president of the alt-right National Policy Institute Richard Spencer's remarks were posted Sunday on YouTube by "Red Ice Radio," which describes itself as "covering politics and social issues from a pro-European perspective." The Atlantic magazine, which is recording footage of Spencer for a documentary they're working on, also published a video of the same event showing audience members apparently giving the Nazi salute

[...]He also used a Nazi-era propaganda term meaning "lying press" to describe reporters, citing "the mainstream media -- or perhaps we should refer to them in the original German, lugenpresse."

#NotAllTrumpVoters though, right? So that's OK.

[Large Noise]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/alt-right-gathering-donald-trump/

#NotAllTrumpVoters though, right? So that's OK.

Just clicked the link in that article to the video of the speech.

Full scale Nazism, not even remotely disguised.

Remember that time Donald Trump made a big deal on twitter about how Jon Stewart's real name is Jon Leibowitz...

[Large Noise]

BBC News covering Trump's Farage tweet as a bit of zany news from the ever-interesting world of Nige. Instead of what it actually is; evidence that Trump doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and that he's trying to build an international coalition of fascists.

She won't do this, but Theresa May should slap Trump down. The civilised world, which Britain is still a semi-member of, needs to start piling the pressure on the US. Everything from the UK government has been shockingly complacent.

[Glebe]

"Check it out, Monica... close, but no cigar!"

[biggytitbo]

BBC News covering Trump's Farage tweet as a bit of zany news from the ever-interesting world of Nige. Instead of what it actually is; evidence that Trump doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, and that he's trying to build an international coalition of fascists.

She won't do this, but Theresa May should slap Trump down. The civilised world, which Britain is still a semi-member of, needs to start piling the pressure on the US. Everything from the UK government has been shockingly complacent.

Nah she should make him amabassador. Let's really go for it guys, not only is it hilarious, if your melodrama is warranted and this will be a disaster it's giving the likes of Trump and Faragee enough rope to hang themsleves and setback their cause for ever more, allowing the proper grown up people you like to take back control.

[biggytitbo]

Article making a similar point to john Harris https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/21/disaffected-rust-belt-voters-embraced-donald-trump-midwestern-obama

Historically what's will be important is not anything Trump does, but that fact that millions of un-people tossed aside in favour of globalisation just reminded the political elites that they exist. They better take notice.

[brat-sampson]

Let's really go for it guys, not only is it hilarious.

I'm so glad you find this rise of white-supremacist fascism hilarious biggy. Tells us a huge amount about you as a person, really, it does.

"You're blowing all this out of proportion!"

*appoints Bannon*
*Lambasts the entire media core for doing their jobs*
*Settles on a fraud case and is clearly getting his personal and business ties directly involved in his leadership transition as well as costing a fortune to stay in a currently unsecured tower through which he talks with global leaders on open networks*
Video: 'they're literally neo-nazis.'

"yeah, but won't it be FUN!"

[Paul Calf]

Article making a similar point to john Harris https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/21/disaffected-rust-belt-voters-embraced-donald-trump-midwestern-obama

Historically what's will be important is not anything Trump does, but that fact that millions of un-people tossed aside in favour of globalisation just reminded the political elites that they exist. They better take notice.

They tossed aside one elite and embraced another. This isn't a defeat of the elites, it's a consolidation of their power. A sweeping-away of the stuffy establishment that stood in their way.

[TheFalconMalteser]

Nah she should make him amabassador. Let's really go for it guys, not only is it hilarious, if your melodrama is warranted and this will be a disaster it's giving the likes of Trump and Faragee enough rope to hang themsleves and setback their cause for ever more, allowing the proper grown up people you like to take back control.

When did thus strategy of giving people enough rope to hang themselves ever actually work in politics?  When the rope is actual political power?

[brat-sampson]

The flaw in the analogy is it assumes they have any desire to hang themselves. Meanwhile there's been series talk of a Muslim register in a country with absurdly lax gun legislation and a keenly blind eye to certain brands of gun crime. But, yeah, I'm obviously just forgetting how much fun it'll all be.

[Large Noise]

When did thus strategy of giving people enough rope to hang themselves ever actually work in politics?  When the rope is actual political power?

[Urinal Cake]

On Monday afternoon, he had a contentious Trump Tower meeting with another one of his chief adversaries: members of the news media.

In the session with more than a dozen television executives and on-air journalists, Trump was highly critical of coverage of him, according to several people familiar with the gathering. Keeping his voice calm and his tone flippant, he told the group sitting around a conference table that they failed to provide their viewers with fair and accurate coverage and told them they failed to understand him or his appeal to millions of Americans.

Trump expressed particular ire at CNN and at several reporters at other cable networks whom he sees as unreasonably antagonistic toward him, though he did not mention them by name.


The people variously described Trump as "combative," "proud" and "dismissive" toward the news organizations present. He also shrugged off the need for a constant pool covering him, they said, although he did not delve into specifics.

On Tuesday, he is scheduled to meet with publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr., as well as editors and reporters of the journalistic institution that Trump frequently refers to as "the failing New York Times."

Trump's meetings on Monday included Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii), who was the first Hindu member of Congress and who supported Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), a socialist, in the Democratic primaries. On foreign policy, Gabbard, a combat veteran who served in Iraq, has been critical of the Obama administration's handling of the war in Syria.

After the meeting with Trump, she issued a statement saying that her "frank and positive conversation" with the president-elect had centered on "our current policies regarding Syria, our fight against terrorist groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS, as well as other foreign policy challenges we face."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-is-seeking-to-build-a-diverse-administration-aides-say/2016/11/21/1c7ae0f6-b012-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_transitionprint-0759pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Nothing new except a confirmation of an American Christian and (Indian) Hindu alliance ready to show those Muzzies a thing or two. Next to join the alliance Thais, Burmese and Philipinos ready to get rid of the Muslim scurge.

[Phil_A]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/alt-right-gathering-donald-trump/

#NotAllTrumpVoters though, right? So that's OK.

Jesus. My first thought was that scene from Cabaret...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Mg6Gfh9Co

Still think you can control them, biggy?

[AllisonSays]

- nae fucking point -

[greenman]

Article making a similar point to john Harris https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/21/disaffected-rust-belt-voters-embraced-donald-trump-midwestern-obama

Historically what's will be important is not anything Trump does, but that fact that millions of un-people tossed aside in favour of globalisation just reminded the political elites that they exist. They better take notice.

Seems rather pointless to write an article like that and end with...

"These industrial jobs aren't coming back. Globalisation isn't going away. Cities will keep growing, the hinterlands shrinking, filled with people who have lost everything except their vote.

If this country is to survive Trump and the wrenching economic changes he has exploited, attention must be paid."

This seems rather similar to the New Labour mantra of "we need to listen to these people" whilst actually meaning "we need new ways to convince these people to vote for us whilst keeping to exactly the same economic course".

[Milverton]

I'm so glad you find this rise of white-supremacist fascism hilarious biggy. Tells us a huge amount about you as a person, really, it does.

[...]

*Lambasts the entire media core for doing their jobs*

"yeah, but won't it be FUN!"

The media were not doing their job, they were on side for Hillary throughout. The evidence was there and the reaction of people like Rachel Maddow and others after the election proved it beyond any doubt. Over here the BBC went into mourning for the fourth time since the Scots referendum.

Here's the quality of journalism the American electorate had to contend with...

https://youtu.be/88UV4yJ-AdI

Fucking disgusting. No wonder he doesn't trust the media. Why would you? Have people already forgotten Hillary was getting fed the Sanders debate questions by CNN?

To put the tin hat on it the cheeky fuckers, in partnership with their mates at Google, Twitter and Facebook have now had the brassneck to invent a "fake news" narrative when they were the ones responsible for peddling it. Twitter have busied themselves deleting Trump supporting accounts, giving the lie to their long held position that they cannot weed out child porn accounts, for example. Of course they cannot. They rather like the child porn at Twitter it seems. By the way, the Podesta pizzagate paedo stuff, hidden from view by the media isn't going away, and Twitter seem to up to their deviant necks in it.

Trump had a meeting with leading news organisations yesterday, and clearly he will circumvent them for the foreseeable future. As long as he puts himself up for a couple of face to face interviews a year he doesn't need their partisan bullshit.

It really is astounding how often some of CaBs most vocal proponents of tearing up the system and staring again fall into line with their masters when push comes to shove.

[Milverton]

Have another one, and why you watch it ponder why neither Obama or Hillary called for calm in the days following the result as their supporters caused chaos across many US cities.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DmVECovQTJo

[Paul Calf]

Milverton there, ignoring all the neo-Nazi stuff and still pretending that teenagers throwing Nazi salutes and screaming "Heil Trump" is some sort of amazing victory for the common man.

[Thursday]

that's because he's a neo-nazi

[Tungsten Paint Trophy]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/21/politics/alt-right-gathering-donald-trump/

#NotAllTrumpVoters though, right? So that's OK.

"Her coalition was made up of mutually hostile tribes only united out of a hatred of 'whitey' -- that is to say, out of a hatred of us," Spencer said.

He added that "there are no two parts of this coalition who could ever be in the same room together for any length of time."

"America was, until this last generation, a white country, designed for ourselves and our posterity. It is our creation and our inheritance, and it belongs to us," Spencer said.

White entitlement and white supremacy while whinging about being a persecuted group. It's exactly like Stormfront.

It would be nice if there were enough decent Trump voters who could rise up and make sure the worst possible scenarios don't play out in the real world, but that won't happen because clearly racism and the idea of white supremacist movements being on the rise again aren't enough of a deal-breaker for a lot of them - the rest are just too jaded to pay attention, and good people are really the ones who make their voices heard. They couldn't give a fuck.

[hewantstolurkatad]

This New York Times stuff is very interesting. He seems to be out to make an example of them so all other media outlets fall in line.