Doctor Who - Series 14, part 2: RTD's time has come (again)

[Mister Six]

New Doctor Who thread for the all-new RTD episodes, kicking off RIGHT NOW with The Star Beast!

(Hope it's not shit.)

[Ambient Sheep]

Sheepy's guide to Doctor Who threads

New/changed entries marked with an asterisk.

Main threads about the new series, in chronological order of creation:
2004/03/04 - 2004/03/20:  Izzard as Dr Who ? (Rampant speculation)
2004/03/20 - 2005/02/21:  And the new Doctor Who is... (Eccleston's announcement to the start of Series 1 (27))
2005/02/27 - 2006/10/10:  New Doctor Who (Series 1 (27) & 2 (28))
2006/11/01 - 2007/05/21:  Newer Doctor Who  (Series 3 (29) part 1)
2007/05/24 - 2009/10/21:  The New Doctor Who thread (Series 3 (29) part 2, Series 4 (30), 2009 up to but not including The Waters Of Mars)
2009/10/21 - 2010/03/26:  The "New" Doctor Who Thread (2009 just before The Waters of Mars to just before Series 5 (31/Fnarg) aired)
2010/03/18 - 2010/07/27:  Doctor Who - Series 5 Discussion (No Spoilers) (Series 5 (31/Fnarg))
2010/06/13 - 2011/01/15:  So, Doctor Who. (started as Fry's questions thread, mutated halfway down page 12 into general post-Series-5-(31/Fnarg) discussion, including the 2010 Christmas special (A Christmas Carol))
2011/01/20 - 2012/01/05:  Doctor Who Series 6 (Series 6 (32))
2012/01/07 - 2012/12/29:  Doctor Who Series 7 and beyond (may contain spoilers) (S07(33)E01 (Asylum of the Daleks) - S07(33)E05 (The Angels Take Manhattan) plus Christmas Special (The Snowmen))
2012/12/29 - 2013/07/11:  Doctor Who, Series 7 (part two) (S07(33)E06 (The Bells of Saint John) - S07(33)E13 (The Name of the Doctor))
2013/01/07 - 2014/01/05:  Doctor Who - 50th anniversary year (overlaps with the previous thread)
2013/12/26 - 2014/08/11:  Doctor Who - Series 8 (101 pages before Series 8 (34) had even aired!)
2014/08/09 - 2014/10/21:  Doctor Who - Series 8 (Part 2) (S08(34)E01 (Deep Breath) - S08(34)E09 (Flatline))
2014/10/21 - 2015/01/14:  Doctor Who - Series 8 (Part 3) (S08(34)E09 (Flatline) - S08(34)E12 (Death in Heaven) plus Christmas Special (Last Christmas))
2015/01/05 - 2015/10/27:  Doctor Who - Series 9 (S09(35) speculation and E01 (The Magician's Apprentice) - E06 (The Woman Who Lived))
2015/10/26 - 2016/01/21:  Doctor Who - Series 9 (continued) (S09(35)E07 (The Zygon Invasion) - S09(35)E12 (Hell Bent) plus Christmas Special (The Husbands of River Song))
2016/01/22 - 2017/04/15:  Doctor Who - Series 10 (Pre-S10(36) speculation)
2017/04/15 - 2017/08/07:  Doctor Who - Series 10 (Part 2) (S10(36)E01 (The Pilot) - S10(36)E12 (The Doctor Falls))
2017/08/07 - 2018/01/07:  Doctor Who - Series 10 (Part 3) (Christmas Special (Twice Upon a Time) and general chatter about the impending Chibnall era)
2018/01/07 - 2018/11/02:  Doctor Who - Series 11 (Part 1) (62 pages of pre-S11(37) speculation, then S11(37)E01 (The Woman Who Fell to Earth) to S11(37)E04 (Arachnids in the UK))
2018/11/02 - 2019/06/13:  Doctor Who - Series 11 (Part 2) (S11(37)E05 (The Tsuranga Conundrum) to S11(37)E10 (The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos) plus New Year's Day Special (Resolution), then whatever the thread equivalent o f "The entire thousand-mile-long bridge spontaneously folded up its glittering spans and sank weeping into the mire, taking everybody with it." would be)
2019/06/13 - 2020/03/03: Doctor Who - Series 12, Chibnall's Revenge (24 pages of Pre-S12(38) speculation, then Ballad's review of S12(38)E01 (Spyfall, Part 1), then two-and-a-half pages later, everyone else's, then all of Series 12 up to and including S12(38)E10 (The Timeless Children).
2020/03/03 - 2021/08/10: Doctor Who Series 12B: The Timeless Chibnall (Xmas special & pre-Series 13(39) chat) (What it says on the tin)
2021/08/10 - 2022/02/20: Doctor Who Series 13: Goodbye, Mr. Chibs (More pre-Series 13(39) chat, then Series 13(39)/Flux itself starts here with The Halloween Apocalypse, ending here with The Vanquishers, with the New Year's Day special (Eve of the Daleks) here)
2021/09/24 - 2022/11/25: RTD back for Doctor Who (Announcing and discussing the incredible news that Russell T. Davies will be coming back to run the show after Chibnall buggers off)
* 2022/02/20 - 2022/12/01 plus 2023/10/11 - 2023/10/12: Doctor Who Series 13 continued: RTD2, Chib nil (Coverage of Chibnall's final but futile efforts to kill the show.  You think I can be arsed to link his eps?)
* 2022/11/22 - 2023/11/25: Doctor Who - Series 14: Tennant's extra / Ncuti stars (Looking forward to Tennant's Specials Brew and the Fifteenth Doctor's adventures)
* 2023/11/25 - 202?/??/??: Doctor Who - Series 14, part 2: RTD's time has come (again) (The second coming of RTD starts being broadcast, starting with S14(40)E01 (The Star Beast) – you're reading it now!)

plus:

2021/05/03 - 2021/11/09 (so far): Doctor Who 2005-2017 : The RTD & Moffat Years (a.k.a. Old New Doctor Who - a thread for chat about old episodes from the re-booted series)

which, although not officially closed, seems to have been largely replaced by:

2022/05/22 - 202?/??/??: The big CaB Doctor Who (2005) rewatch thread - starts May 30, 2022 (does exactly what it says on the tin)


Threads about the old series, in chronological order of creation:
Old Doctor Who (Original thread, 2005/05/11 - 2010/06/08)
Old Doctor Who (Second thread, 2011/01/14 - 2016/10/21)
Old Doctor Who - Part 3 (Third thread, 2016/10/21 - 2020/06/04)
Old Doctor Who - Part 4 (Fourth thread, 2020/06/04 - 2023/04/28)
Old Doctor Who - Part 5 (Fifth thread, 2023/04/28 - 202?/??/??)


Threads about both, but for your ears only:
Doctor Who Audio Adventures (Big Finish etc.)


Other Doctor Who related broadcast threads, also in chronological order:
Torchwood Series 1
The Sarah Jane Adventures (just the pilot, not Series 1, there was no S1 thread)
Torchwood Series 2
Sarah Jane adventures- Series 2
Torchwood Series 3 (aka Children of Earth)
Sarah Jane Adventures Series 3
Doctor Who and the SPOILERS OF DEATH (aborted Series 5 (31/Fnarg) thread)
Junior Masterchef with Doctor Who
Doctor Who: The Adventure Games
Torchwood: The New World (one-page thread presaging Series 4 / Miracle Day)
Torchwood return date.... (three-post thread announcing Series 4 / Miracle Day)
Torchwood: Miracle Day (aka Series 4)
Torchwood: Miracle Day (US airings)
Class (Doctor Who spin-off) series 1

There wasn't a Sarah Jane Adventures Series 4 thread, let alone a Series 5 one. :-(


The Doctor Who Radio Times Project - with thanks to Replies From View
A Radio Times History of Doctor Who: 01 William Hartnell


Still more Doctor Who related threads, again in chronological order:
Fanzines (Comedy, Doctor Who and in general)
The Best And Worst Of Doctor Who... Ever
Doctor Who - where does everyone stand now ?
Mong Doctor Who series 5 (H.S. Art thread)
Recommend me some Old Doctor Who (a really good thread, IMHO)
Doctor Who Mongs (H.S. Art thread)
Beeb to show unseen interview with Dr Who theme creator (Delia Derbyshire)
Doctor Who film (November 2011 thread about film rumour)
Watching Doctor Who no 1. The Time Meddler (1965)
Why i don't like modern Doctor Who
Doctor Who leaked scripts thread (but still no spoilers) (July 2014)
Doctor Who: The Movie (April 2015 thread about another film rumour)
K9: Timequake (new movie coming 2017, allegedly... very allegedly, by now)
Doctor Who World (should it become an expanded franchise like Marvel?)
Doctor Who to spurt cum right up The Queen's vagina (Actually a short thread about the first series of The Crown, but with a title like that it has to make this list)
Dr Who Re Dooooo (would it be worth refilming some early stories?)
Doctor Who or Chips? (addressing the burning issue of the day)
Tom Baker is still alive (General Tom Baker appreciation thread)
Lost WHO script. (Spoon of Ploff writes a Doctor Who story in H.S. Art)
BRADLEY WALSH will be Doctor Who's companion (Two-and-a-half pages of mild jaw-droppage from 2017/08/21-24, however this comment fails to be "very sarky")
Radiophonic Prom (featuring the music of Delia Derbyshire, among others)
Watching Doctor Who (2005) from the middle of the beginning (madhair60 sparks discussion about the RTD era -- includes a superb Sheepy-has-to-up-his-game-now list by Talulah, really! to every individual episode discussion of the first three series; many thanks for that!)
Doctor: 'Who?' (Short but enjoyably silly H.S. Art thread)
Clive Swift has died (and much of the thread is about that DWM interview)
giant blue penis bloke from doctor who (the Moxx of Balhoon gets his own thread, then lives it up with Balok and friends)
Wanting to get into old Doctor Who (madhair60 enquires again; lots of good answers)
The big stupid Doctor Who companion face-mashing project (Mister Six uses face-mashing website Artbreeder in a fascinating quest to figure out what the "average" Doctor Who companion looks like)
I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke? (...and John Barrowman)
Flying wheelie bin compared to Tardis. (I can see the resemblance)
A fresh start with Doctor Who (Wolfie's turn for a "recommend me some Old Doctor Who" thread, and a short but good one it is.  Includes discussion of various cliffhangers.)
* Doctor Who for the rest of us (shiftwork2 starts "a thread for the rest of us who may remember [classic] Doctor Who from broadcast", following the uploading of virtually all of the classic series to iPlayer.)


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[madhair60]

more like Doctor "Whoke". disgusting.

[Norton Canes]

Well that looked like a nice jolly for all concerned.

Chibnall-tier.

[Deanjam]

Well, it was fine. A little thin on plot, with lots of running around to disguise it, but at least it wasn't dull. The Meep looked great.

[Small Man Big Horse]

Really enjoyed that, it wasn't perfect, but it was fun and it felt like proper Doctor Who again for the first time in way too long.

[magister]

Bloody loved that.

[Ambient Sheep]

I loved it!  The magic is back!!

More once the BBC3 thing is over. :)

[BritishHobo]

Hahahaha loved every moment of that. RTD-ed up to the max. Absolutely mad as shit.

[holyzombiejesus]

That vile Rolf Harris panting over the end music was disgusting.

[BritishHobo]

My immediate thought is that we really have seen fuck-all of the second episode, as most of the stuff in the trailer that looked like it could be from that episode actually turned out to be in this one. My second thought is I adore that whatever that episode is, it's going to be caused by

Spoiler alert

Donna spilling coffee on the TARDIS.

[close]

[dontpaintyourteeth]

loved it

[Toki]

Liked it, although the physics as the

Spoiler alert

good guys win

[close]

was kind of Chibnall-tier. But overall the whole thing had more energy than that. 7/10 from me.

[Deanjam]

Sad there was no Bernard Cribbins, but I guess they couldn't use the footage they had filmed for the episode.

[timbis]

Fucking Hell that was shit. Rose might be the worst performance I've seen. It had a bit of life in it at least.

[thr0b]

Really enjoyed it. Handwave away the big problem has always been RTD's solution, so fair enough on that point.

Big celebratory Saturday night entertainment.

[Toki]

TARDIS interior opinion -

Spoiler alert

it's Matt Smith's but with less than half the charm and all the eccentricity removed

[close]

.

[Midas]

the meta-crisis stuff was weird

[Norton Canes]

Sorry, I just want to apologise for using the term 'Chibnall-tier' upthread. Some of his stories were much better than this.

[Psybro]

It wasn't really for me but RTD season openers never have been, there was nothing there to say the general public will view it with a mixture of apathy and revulsion so job done.  The bits of his writing I find cloying and heavyhanded usually seem to land exactly how he wants them to with people who aren't navel-regarding pseuds like me.

It probably needed to be big more than it needed to be good.

[daf]

Pop! Pop! Pop!

Get in!

AMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZING!

10/10

[BritishHobo]

TARDIS interior opinion -

Spoiler alert

it's Matt Smith's but with less than half the charm and all the eccentricity removed

[close]

.

It definitely looks

Spoiler alert

cold as fuck, like the least homely TARDIS room ever. Cool as fuck for a spaceship though.

[close]

Given the very grand reveal, I'm assuming this must be Ncuti's as well? I know they've got Disney money now, but surely they've not got enough to be dismantling this after three episodes and whacking another one up.

[gotmilk]

I hated that. The comedy was lame and grating, while the plot was dull and relied on bombast. The climax to the Doctor/Donna stuff was especially flimsy and unsatisfying, using the veneer of a progressive message in order to sell fundamentally poor storytelling. Tennant seemed to have lost all his charm and ability to dominate a scene, to the point where his performance felt like a Jodie Whittaker tribute act. The business with the judge's wig was especially lame. Davies has always written episodes I dislike as well as episodes I love though, so I'm hopeful that I'll still enjoy the next couple.

[RicoMNKN]

It kept me entertained throughout, so did its job as a big action thing.

Can't imagine it holds up to much scrutiny, though.

[thr0b]

Given the very grand reveal, I'm assuming this must be Ncuti's as well? I know they've got Disney money now, but surely they've not got enough to be dismantling this after three episodes and whacking another one up.

I suspect what happened at the end sets up a bit of a revision for its look by the end of the third special.

I like that they've got DOORS going off places. It's got a sense of scale again, rather than a room with only one obvious exit.

[Rev+]

Sad there was no Bernard Cribbins, but I guess they couldn't use the footage they had filmed for the episode.

Nah, he'll probably crop up at the end of the last of the specials - they'd have removed the reference to going on a trip to see him otherwise, as that'd just be weird. 

Really enjoyed that.  Big, daft, not much of a plot, but it makes sense why they'd use a pretty thin story when there was a lot of housekeeping to take care of.  Looking forward to the next one, which is a long-forgotten feeling.

[Midas]

why did the burning chasms seal themselves up

[BritishHobo]

Do you reckon the person that leaked that video of the TARDIS interior a year ago got fired

[Toki]

why did the burning chasms seal themselves up

That's the bit I was referring to. Bit too stupid and distracting for me.

[Natnar]

Really enjoyed that. Not that much plot wise but the point of the episode was to get the Doctor & Donna back together.